A-League players arrested over alleged betting corruption


A-League players arrested over alleged betting corruption

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NicCarBel - 17 May 2024 12:17 PM
tsf - 17 May 2024 11:40 AM

I will. I don't really care. Interestingly 3 of the 4 games were against Sydney FC....

I'm not going to do the maths on ages, but every booking from those 4 matches for Macarthur (in order)

24/11
Jon Aspro
Davila

09/12
Davila
Clayton Lewis
Isaac Hovar
Kearyn Baccus
Danny De Silva

20/04
Jed Drew
Ivan Vujica (straight red)
Kearyn Baccus
Thomas Smith (straight red)

04/05
Kealey Adamson (straight red)
Jake Hollman

Media outlets have already named Ulises Dávila, Clayton Lewis and Kearyn Baccus.
NSW police have also said there is a fourth player they would like to interview who is currently interstate, but it's unclear if they plan to charge him.
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tsf - 17 May 2024 11:40 AM
someguyjc - 17 May 2024 11:36 AM

name them. It's not a crime to say who got yellow cards in those games 

Daily Telegraph now naming Davila, Baccus and Clayton Lewis
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Is aspo overseas playing?
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tsf - 17 May 2024 12:42 PM
Is aspo overseas playing?

He's at Pohang Steelers in the K-League.

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someguyjc - 17 May 2024 12:47 PM
tsf - 17 May 2024 12:42 PM

He's at Pohang Steelers in the K-League.

He could be the one away they want to speak with 
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tsf - 17 May 2024 12:51 PM
someguyjc - 17 May 2024 12:47 PM

He could be the one away they want to speak with 

Not Aspro, but there is another ex Mariner?
Hi 😉
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Interestingly the dates have Faghani and Elders and ref's.....pretty easy to get a card from faghani, just back chat him so perhaps he was picked. Not sure about Elders though.
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It's wild you can bet on shit like this.

I saw some bloke who blogged for the NPL or ran a media account or something for the club and he was saying if they lost the account would be bombarded with fired up people from all 4 corners of the globe burring up. He assumes, with a high degree of confidence, it was betting related.

If the Macarthur players were getting $10k each (according to Fox Sports) then you can imagine how far a couple of K would go in the NPL.




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Munrubenmuz - 17 May 2024 4:29 PM
It's wild you can bet on shit like this.


Agreed.
I'm not a gambler, but I can see the appeal of having a wager on the result... even the scoreline.
Maybe even betting that a particular player will score a goal



But betting that a particular player will get booked?
Sounds both highly susceptible to fixing as well as just a damn boring thing to bet on...


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petszk - 17 May 2024 4:35 PM
Munrubenmuz - 17 May 2024 4:29 PM

Sounds both highly susceptible to fixing as well as just a damn boring thing to bet on...

Boring unless you've a hundred on to win a thousand.

I've often said if you were a ref it would be so easy to give penalties every week if you were partial to a bung. Just wait until a corner and then pin the first bloke that pushed someone or grabbed a shirt.

Good luck proving that was predetermined.



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Munrubenmuz - 17 May 2024 4:29 PM
It's wild you can bet on shit like this.

I saw some bloke who blogged for the NPL or ran a media account or something for the club and he was saying if they lost the account would be bombarded with fired up people from all 4 corners of the globe burring up. He assumes, with a high degree of confidence, it was betting related.

If the Macarthur players were getting $10k each (according to Fox Sports) then you can imagine how far a couple of K would go in the NPL.


Can vouch for this Muz... every NPL crowd, no matter how small, has the dodgy Asian betting guy with tablet in hand measuirng the stats as he goes for the live feed in malaysaia or wherever it is... Some of the comments after upsets or poor losses on NPL clubs socials are hilarious... Some Nigerian dude telling the world Hellas is a shit club after choacking last eyars GF is just fun to read. hahahahaha
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Munrubenmuz - 17 May 2024 4:42 PM
petszk - 17 May 2024 4:35 PM

Boring unless you've a hundred on to win a thousand.

I've often said if you were a ref it would be so easy to give penalties every week if you were partial to a bung. Just wait until a corner and then pin the first bloke that pushed someone or grabbed a shirt.

Good luck proving that was predetermined.

hmmmmm I think you and I need to have chat off forum ... I have a plan.... HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAH
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Munrubenmuz - 17 May 2024 4:42 PM
petszk - 17 May 2024 4:35 PM

Boring unless you've a hundred on to win a thousand.

I've often said if you were a ref it would be so easy to give penalties every week if you were partial to a bung. Just wait until a corner and then pin the first bloke that pushed someone or grabbed a shirt.

Good luck proving that was predetermined.

Just speculating here, but you can almost guarantee these blokes came undone by leaving some sort of a digital trail. Nothing is private when it comes to digital communications anymore. Doesn't matter whether it's text, audio, video, money transfers. Everything can be traced. Otherwise, like you said, without a trail no way of really demonstrating that a ref has been paid off. Always the possibility of a whistleblower though. 
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Munrubenmuz - 17 May 2024 4:29 PM
It's wild you can bet on shit like this.



People were betting on State League 2 games a few years ago. Ridiculous anyone takes money on this 
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Question is are we wasting our time watching football or sport in general? Hope nothing else is fixed otherwise it'll be like living a lie 😂
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someguyjc - 17 May 2024 4:59 PM
Munrubenmuz - 17 May 2024 4:42 PM

Just speculating here, but you can almost guarantee these blokes came undone by leaving some sort of a digital trail. Nothing is private when it comes to digital communications anymore. Doesn't matter whether it's text, audio, video, money transfers. Everything can be traced. Otherwise, like you said, without a trail no way of really demonstrating that a ref has been paid off. Always the possibility of a whistleblower though. 

Oh for sure. I meant as a ref you could blow a penalty every day at the week on a corner and suspicion wouldn't be raised one dot with the amount of shit that goes down in there.


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Munrubenmuz - 17 May 2024 5:37 PM
someguyjc - 17 May 2024 4:59 PM

Oh for sure. I meant as a ref you could blow a penalty every day at the week on a corner and suspicion wouldn't be raised one dot with the amount of shit that goes down in there.

Actually I'd be pretty suspicious after seeing the first time in history that someone got pinged for holding a shirt/torso/neck at a corner
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now now, hear me out

what if all players could do stuff like this to cover the reduced distribution to clubs for the apl
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someguyjc - 17 May 2024 12:26 PM
NicCarBel - 17 May 2024 12:17 PM

Media outlets have already named Ulises Dávila, Clayton Lewis and Kearyn Baccus.
NSW police have also said there is a fourth player they would like to interview who is currently interstate, but it's unclear if they plan to charge him.

They said they would when he returns to NSW and if he doesn’t return, they will seek to have him extradited.

Vince Rugari’s article (which I can’t access again as it’s behind paywall), mentioned that a fifth player could be involved as well.
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hilarous that betting is all over the game, rammed down our throats yet this is the worst thing ever

GET RID OF GAMBLING
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Just another salary cap rort, really. 
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Just mentioning that no result of any game was affected in any way.
Not condoning it, but it is small beer on a global scale. Some where around giving cricket pitch reports to bookies, and that didn't end up any careers. 

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charlied - 17 May 2024 9:15 PM
Just mentioning that no result of any game was affected in any way.
Not condoning it, but it is small beer on a global scale. Some where around giving cricket pitch reports to bookies, and that didn't end up any careers. 

Actually, that couldn’t be further from the truth. This is very similar to the spot-fixing scandal involving three Pakistani cricketers in 2010 where players were paid to bowl no balls at certain points of the match. All three players involved went to prison.
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And, it was the United Kingdom Gambling Commission which first alerted Australian authorities to suspicious betting involving Macarthur FC.


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sub007 - 17 May 2024 9:22 PM
charlied - 17 May 2024 9:15 PM

Actually, that couldn’t be further from the truth. This is very similar to the spot-fixing scandal involving three Pakistani cricketers in 2010 where players were paid to bowl no balls at certain points of the match. All three players involved went to prison.

Think he was alluding to Warne and Waugh.
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SUTHERLANDBEAR - 17 May 2024 10:26 PM
sub007 - 17 May 2024 9:22 PM

Think he was alluding to Warne and Waugh.

I know but the Pakistan example is more relevant to this case.
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sub007 - 17 May 2024 10:41 PM
SUTHERLANDBEAR - 17 May 2024 10:26 PM

I know but the Pakistan example is more relevant to this case.

I can tell you that I used to referee here in W.A and I was refereeing a Women's state cup game at 7:45 on a Wednesday night in fremantle and it was freezing and awful rain and a guy walks up to me while do my pitch inspection and goes you got any info who is going to win , need to let a few people go , I'm like to myself that's commitment for gambling

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tsf - 17 May 2024 8:05 PM
hilarous that betting is all over the game, rammed down our throats yet this is the worst thing ever

GET RID OF GAMBLING

If you got rid of gambling football would probably have a chance against the other codes which are all funded by pokies
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SUTHERLANDBEAR - 17 May 2024 10:26 PM
sub007 - 17 May 2024 9:22 PM

Think he was alluding to Warne and Waugh.

I was, SB. 
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https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/aleague-2024-three-macarthur-fc-players-arrested-after-police-investigation-yellow-cards-betting-probe-details/news-story/44337aec548b757a9f16dd8c255d7317

Footage of arrests. Pretty heavy. I guess links to anything like organised crime poses risks of weapons etc. Really wonder what's to come of this and you'd assume the police have some pretty damning evidence. 
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