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How will byes work with an uneven draw ?
If it’s a standard H/A season it works fine. But with 3 extra rounds would mean teams play more than others ?
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NicCarBel
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+xHow will byes work with an uneven draw ?
If it’s a standard H/A season it works fine. But with 3 extra rounds would mean teams play more than others ? I did a little Chat GPT run, and it came to the conclusion that it can be done over 30 rounds (with 27 games played by each team)
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+x+xHow will byes work with an uneven draw ?
If it’s a standard H/A season it works fine. But with 3 extra rounds would mean teams play more than others ? I did a little Chat GPT run, and it came to the conclusion that it can be done over 30 rounds (with 27 games played by each team) A crappy out come. Just bring in the Canberra side for f**ks sake. 14 teams 26 rounds
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+x+xHow will byes work with an uneven draw ?
If it’s a standard H/A season it works fine. But with 3 extra rounds would mean teams play more than others ? I did a little Chat GPT run, and it came to the conclusion that it can be done over 30 rounds (with 27 games played by each team) 1. I wouldn't trust News.com 2. the idea of 'rounds' is an unnecessary restriction 3. long weekends , School Holidays 'Festivals of football' etc all allow all kinds of jumbling of fixtures 4. Feel sorry for whoever isn't invited to the Unite Round
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+x+x+xHow will byes work with an uneven draw ?
If it’s a standard H/A season it works fine. But with 3 extra rounds would mean teams play more than others ? I did a little Chat GPT run, and it came to the conclusion that it can be done over 30 rounds (with 27 games played by each team) 1. I wouldn't trust News.com 2. the idea of 'rounds' is an unnecessary restriction 3. long weekends , School Holidays 'Festivals of football' etc all allow all kinds of jumbling of fixtures 4. Feel sorry for whoever isn't invited to the Unite Round lol made me spit my coffee this one :)
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+x+x+x+xHow will byes work with an uneven draw ?
If it’s a standard H/A season it works fine. But with 3 extra rounds would mean teams play more than others ? I did a little Chat GPT run, and it came to the conclusion that it can be done over 30 rounds (with 27 games played by each team) 1. I wouldn't trust News.com 2. the idea of 'rounds' is an unnecessary restriction 3. long weekends , School Holidays 'Festivals of football' etc all allow all kinds of jumbling of fixtures 4. Feel sorry for whoever isn't invited to the Unite Round lol made me spit my coffee this one :) Yep, in applying actual though to this (rather than just asking the AI for the lulz) - that's the one that's going to fuck everything up isn't it. Full home and away season (With byes) can be done in 28 rounds. So the 29th Unite Round is going to fuck things up, because 1 team won't be playing that extra game... EDIT - never mind me I was doing maths of playing 13 teams with a 14th bye. Home and Away season with byes is 26 Rounds (24 games), so to make Unite Round work, there will be (A) one team not invited obviously, (B) A couple rounds with multiple byes, so that each team can get to the 27 games. So 29 Matchdays all together still.
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+x+x+xHow will byes work with an uneven draw ?
If it’s a standard H/A season it works fine. But with 3 extra rounds would mean teams play more than others ? I did a little Chat GPT run, and it came to the conclusion that it can be done over 30 rounds (with 27 games played by each team) 1. I wouldn't trust News.com 2. the idea of 'rounds' is an unnecessary restriction 3. long weekends , School Holidays 'Festivals of football' etc all allow all kinds of jumbling of fixtures 4. Feel sorry for whoever isn't invited to the Unite Round Looks like CFG have heroically taken one for the team and now don't have to turn up that week
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+x+x+x+xHow will byes work with an uneven draw ?
If it’s a standard H/A season it works fine. But with 3 extra rounds would mean teams play more than others ? I did a little Chat GPT run, and it came to the conclusion that it can be done over 30 rounds (with 27 games played by each team) 1. I wouldn't trust News.com 2. the idea of 'rounds' is an unnecessary restriction 3. long weekends , School Holidays 'Festivals of football' etc all allow all kinds of jumbling of fixtures 4. Feel sorry for whoever isn't invited to the Unite Round Looks like CFG have heroically taken one for the team and now don't have to turn up that week Yeah this year is really testing me as a fan. Seems like nothing is going our way
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+x+x+x+x+xHow will byes work with an uneven draw ?
If it’s a standard H/A season it works fine. But with 3 extra rounds would mean teams play more than others ? I did a little Chat GPT run, and it came to the conclusion that it can be done over 30 rounds (with 27 games played by each team) 1. I wouldn't trust News.com 2. the idea of 'rounds' is an unnecessary restriction 3. long weekends , School Holidays 'Festivals of football' etc all allow all kinds of jumbling of fixtures 4. Feel sorry for whoever isn't invited to the Unite Round Looks like CFG have heroically taken one for the team and now don't have to turn up that week Yeah this year is really testing me as a fan. Seems like nothing is going our way You think CFG wanted to be there ?
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+x+x+x+x+x+xHow will byes work with an uneven draw ?
If it’s a standard H/A season it works fine. But with 3 extra rounds would mean teams play more than others ? I did a little Chat GPT run, and it came to the conclusion that it can be done over 30 rounds (with 27 games played by each team) 1. I wouldn't trust News.com 2. the idea of 'rounds' is an unnecessary restriction 3. long weekends , School Holidays 'Festivals of football' etc all allow all kinds of jumbling of fixtures 4. Feel sorry for whoever isn't invited to the Unite Round Looks like CFG have heroically taken one for the team and now don't have to turn up that week Yeah this year is really testing me as a fan. Seems like nothing is going our way You think CFG wanted to be there ? It doesn't matter what cfg want
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+x+x+x+x+xHow will byes work with an uneven draw ?
If it’s a standard H/A season it works fine. But with 3 extra rounds would mean teams play more than others ? I did a little Chat GPT run, and it came to the conclusion that it can be done over 30 rounds (with 27 games played by each team) 1. I wouldn't trust News.com 2. the idea of 'rounds' is an unnecessary restriction 3. long weekends , School Holidays 'Festivals of football' etc all allow all kinds of jumbling of fixtures 4. Feel sorry for whoever isn't invited to the Unite Round Looks like CFG have heroically taken one for the team and now don't have to turn up that week Yeah this year is really testing me as a fan. Seems like nothing is going our way One less trip to Shitney is a win mate, what are you talking about :P
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+x+x+x+x+xHow will byes work with an uneven draw ?
If it’s a standard H/A season it works fine. But with 3 extra rounds would mean teams play more than others ? I did a little Chat GPT run, and it came to the conclusion that it can be done over 30 rounds (with 27 games played by each team) 1. I wouldn't trust News.com 2. the idea of 'rounds' is an unnecessary restriction 3. long weekends , School Holidays 'Festivals of football' etc all allow all kinds of jumbling of fixtures 4. Feel sorry for whoever isn't invited to the Unite Round Looks like CFG have heroically taken one for the team and now don't have to turn up that week Yeah this year is really testing me as a fan. Seems like nothing is going our way Wouldn't you say having the bye week on the Unite round is a good thing? I'd definitely prefer it if my club had their bye then. It means all of your home games will be played at your home ground. Seems like a good deal to me.
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+x+x+x+x+x+xHow will byes work with an uneven draw ?
If it’s a standard H/A season it works fine. But with 3 extra rounds would mean teams play more than others ? I did a little Chat GPT run, and it came to the conclusion that it can be done over 30 rounds (with 27 games played by each team) 1. I wouldn't trust News.com 2. the idea of 'rounds' is an unnecessary restriction 3. long weekends , School Holidays 'Festivals of football' etc all allow all kinds of jumbling of fixtures 4. Feel sorry for whoever isn't invited to the Unite Round Looks like CFG have heroically taken one for the team and now don't have to turn up that week Yeah this year is really testing me as a fan. Seems like nothing is going our way Wouldn't you say having the bye week on the Unite round is a good thing? I'd definitely prefer it if my club had their bye then. It means all of your home games will be played at your home ground. Seems like a good deal to me. Yeah true. Tbh I think was leaked from the apl it's never been confirmed anywhere officially if you look on the website it's not there
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Obviously not ideal, but glad to see more teams with Auckland coming in.
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I might be in the minority here, but to be honest, the whole bye thing doesn't bother me too much.
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+xI might be in the minority here, but to be honest, the whole bye thing doesn't bother me too much. Yeah, byes don't bother me much either. I don't like lopsided draws though. They should be either playing home + away, or like the old days where there's an extra third game against EVERY team, not just some. Reeks of AFL to me. NRL started doing it too once they re-added Rabbitohs.
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Old and wise mate told me years ago when news start to attack something you can be sure its about to expand, and News don't want them too.
After ignoring us for years, News seem to find another fault line weekly,
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To be honest the bye does not worry me. I just want to make sure that each team plays every team just twice - home and away.
As for Unite round lets retweak it - at least for the men. 13 ALM teams plus 8, 10 or 12? NST teams playing on the Unite weekend. Depending when it is scheduled either CCM or SFC could possibly miss out to even up the numbers (depending on ACL2 and ACLE scheduling and the respective teams progress. TBH the ACL2 seems to be less arduous without the multiple stages compared to the AFC Cup so I would expect SFC to go far.
My preferred date would be the the Easter weekend (18-21 April) which would be the weekend after the midweek ACL2 Semifinal (15 or 16 April) and just before the ACL Elite QF in Saudi Arabia (25th or 26 April).
The date could be earlier but having it later gives the NST a few rounds to get up to speed. It may be gimicky but playing an extra match upsets the proper home and away season. It also gives exposure to the NST for when 9 teams from the ALM miss in the weeks coming up and may get a few ALM followers looking more locally for the winter months.
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+xTo be honest the bye does not worry me. I just want to make sure that each team plays every team just twice - home and away.As for Unite round lets retweak it - at least for the men. 13 ALM teams plus 8, 10 or 12? NST teams playing on the Unite weekend. Depending when it is scheduled either CCM or SFC could possibly miss out to even up the numbers (depending on ACL2 and ACLE scheduling and the respective teams progress. TBH the ACL2 seems to be less arduous without the multiple stages compared to the AFC Cup so I would expect SFC to go far. My preferred date would be the the Easter weekend (18-21 April) which would be the weekend after the midweek ACL2 Semifinal (15 or 16 April) and just before the ACL Elite QF in Saudi Arabia (25th or 26 April). The date could be earlier but having it later gives the NST a few rounds to get up to speed. It may be gimicky but playing an extra match upsets the proper home and away season. It also gives exposure to the NST for when 9 teams from the ALM miss in the weeks coming up and may get a few ALM followers looking more locally for the winter months. Dear GOD please NO .... The Championship is going to struggle enough in the first few years as it is mate, dragging teams to an interstate destination to play a round that members cant travel too will NOT help... Leave the "razzle dazzle" to the entertainemnt league.
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 Fairness and Integrity didn't make the cut We'll just have to satisfy ourselves with being Entertainment
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+xFairness and Integrity didn't make the cut We'll just have to satisfy ourselves with being Entertainment Don't football fans ALREADY see football as the most entertaining and popular sport anyway? Why do they have to wait till 2030?
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+x+xFairness and Integrity didn't make the cut We'll just have to satisfy ourselves with being Entertainment Don't football fans ALREADY see football as the most entertaining and popular sport anyway? Why do they have to wait till 2030? The people that run this Sport can't do anything right. What an abortion. Canberra should be the 14th side. 13 opponent you face twice and let it be 26 rounds
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+x+x+xFairness and Integrity didn't make the cut We'll just have to satisfy ourselves with being Entertainment Don't football fans ALREADY see football as the most entertaining and popular sport anyway? Why do they have to wait till 2030? The people that run this Sport can't do anything right. What an abortion. Canberra should be the 14th side. 13 opponent you face twice and let it be 26 rounds Agreed, but I also see the stance of the Canberra set-up that now is not enough time for them to be set up for next season.
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From what I've heard, the only reason Canberra aren't in, YET, is the APL knocked back $20 mill holding out for $25m.
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+xFrom what I've heard, the only reason Canberra aren't in, YET, is the APL knocked back $20 mill holding out for $25m. Typical.
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+xFrom what I've heard, the only reason Canberra aren't in, YET, is the APL knocked back $20 mill holding out for $25m. Hands up if you believe Muz's mystery whisperer 
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Is there a moderator here?
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+xIs there a moderator here? Only to tell us not to post about other sports.
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interesting drama just heard from a Red Army spokesperson earlier said APL are officially not waiting for ACL Elite and ACL Two draws to be held in two weeks time.
as ALM and ALW fixture release for 2024/25 season is due out tomorrow morning he said with time TBA and its two years in a row they've not waited for AFC club competition confirmed dates involving Australian clubs (which are Central Coast Mariners and Sydney FC).
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+xinteresting drama just heard from a Red Army spokesperson earlier said APL are officially not waiting for ACL Elite and ACL Two draws to be held in two weeks time. as ALM and ALW fixture release for 2024/25 season is due out tomorrow morning he said with time TBA and its two years in a row they've not waited for AFC club competition confirmed dates involving Australian clubs (which are Central Coast Mariners and Sydney FC). If they clash, just reschedule. Happens with European/Cup schedules all the time. Main concern is this unbalanced fixture nonsense. Can't follow a league where you don't play twice H/A. It's just tacky as hell.
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+x+xinteresting drama just heard from a Red Army spokesperson earlier said APL are officially not waiting for ACL Elite and ACL Two draws to be held in two weeks time. as ALM and ALW fixture release for 2024/25 season is due out tomorrow morning he said with time TBA and its two years in a row they've not waited for AFC club competition confirmed dates involving Australian clubs (which are Central Coast Mariners and Sydney FC). If they clash, just reschedule. Happens with European/Cup schedules all the time. Main concern is this unbalanced fixture nonsense. Can't follow a league where you don't play twice H/A. It's just tacky as hell. It is the Australian way though.
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+x+x+xinteresting drama just heard from a Red Army spokesperson earlier said APL are officially not waiting for ACL Elite and ACL Two draws to be held in two weeks time. as ALM and ALW fixture release for 2024/25 season is due out tomorrow morning he said with time TBA and its two years in a row they've not waited for AFC club competition confirmed dates involving Australian clubs (which are Central Coast Mariners and Sydney FC). If they clash, just reschedule. Happens with European/Cup schedules all the time. Main concern is this unbalanced fixture nonsense. Can't follow a league where you don't play twice H/A. It's just tacky as hell. It is the Australian way though. The thing I always loved about growing up in Australia was you could always find someone willing to tell you where you are and exactly how to get home <3
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+x+x+x+xinteresting drama just heard from a Red Army spokesperson earlier said APL are officially not waiting for ACL Elite and ACL Two draws to be held in two weeks time. as ALM and ALW fixture release for 2024/25 season is due out tomorrow morning he said with time TBA and its two years in a row they've not waited for AFC club competition confirmed dates involving Australian clubs (which are Central Coast Mariners and Sydney FC). If they clash, just reschedule. Happens with European/Cup schedules all the time. Main concern is this unbalanced fixture nonsense. Can't follow a league where you don't play twice H/A. It's just tacky as hell. It is the Australian way though. The thing I always loved about growing up in Australia was you could always find someone willing to tell you where you are and exactly how to get home <3 HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA -- "go back to your own country" hahahahahahaha
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+x+x+x+xinteresting drama just heard from a Red Army spokesperson earlier said APL are officially not waiting for ACL Elite and ACL Two draws to be held in two weeks time. as ALM and ALW fixture release for 2024/25 season is due out tomorrow morning he said with time TBA and its two years in a row they've not waited for AFC club competition confirmed dates involving Australian clubs (which are Central Coast Mariners and Sydney FC). If they clash, just reschedule. Happens with European/Cup schedules all the time. Main concern is this unbalanced fixture nonsense. Can't follow a league where you don't play twice H/A. It's just tacky as hell. It is the Australian way though. The thing I always loved about growing up in Australia was you could always find someone willing to tell you where you are and exactly how to get home <3 The top left hand corner of your flag, kinda suggests I am “ Home “.
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+x+x+x+x+xinteresting drama just heard from a Red Army spokesperson earlier said APL are officially not waiting for ACL Elite and ACL Two draws to be held in two weeks time. as ALM and ALW fixture release for 2024/25 season is due out tomorrow morning he said with time TBA and its two years in a row they've not waited for AFC club competition confirmed dates involving Australian clubs (which are Central Coast Mariners and Sydney FC). If they clash, just reschedule. Happens with European/Cup schedules all the time. Main concern is this unbalanced fixture nonsense. Can't follow a league where you don't play twice H/A. It's just tacky as hell. It is the Australian way though. The thing I always loved about growing up in Australia was you could always find someone willing to tell you where you are and exactly how to get home <3 The top left hand corner of your flag, kinda suggests I am “ Home “. When people ask why it's there, I tell them it's a postage stamp
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+x+xinteresting drama just heard from a Red Army spokesperson earlier said APL are officially not waiting for ACL Elite and ACL Two draws to be held in two weeks time. as ALM and ALW fixture release for 2024/25 season is due out tomorrow morning he said with time TBA and its two years in a row they've not waited for AFC club competition confirmed dates involving Australian clubs (which are Central Coast Mariners and Sydney FC). If they clash, just reschedule. Happens with European/Cup schedules all the time. Given APL's current cashflow challenges, I wonder what it costs to reschedule I assume they have a deal with Airlines and Hotels, how much can they muck them about without costing more ? Also the hoohah with the broadcasting cost blowout this year. Who pays when this mucks up their schedule ?
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I'm a super a league fan and even I'm finding it hard to get excited this season
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Early fixture leaked details ahead of Friday 9.00am AEST full fixture announcement,
Friday October 18th:
7.35pm AEDT Central Coast Mariners v Melbourne Victory at Industree Group Stadium*
Saturday October 19th:
3.00pm AEDT (5.00pm NZ) Auckland FC v Brisbane Roar at Go Media Mount Smart Stadium
5.00pm AEDT Newcastle Jets v Melbourne City at McDonald Jones Stadium
7.35pm AEDT Western Sydney Wanderers v Sydney FC at CommBank Stadium**
Sunday October 20th:
TBA Wellington Phoenix v Western United at Sky Stadium
4.00pm AEDT Macarthur v Perth Glory at Campbelltown Stadium
BYE: Adelaide United
Saturday October 26th:
5.00pm AEDT (4.30pm local) Adelaide United v Central Coast Mariners at Coopers Stadium
7.35pm AEDT Melbourne City v Melbourne Victory at AAMI Park
Sunday October 27th:
4.00pm AEDT Western United v Western Sydney Wanderers at Ironbark Fields
Saturday November 2nd:
5.00pm AEDT (7.00pm NZ) Wellington Phoenix v Auckland FC at Sky Stadium
Sunday November 10th:
8.45pm AEDT (5.45pm local) Perth Glory v Melbourne City at HBF Park
Friday November 22nd (Unite round at Allianz Stadium):
Perth Glory v Western United
Newcastle Jets v Central Coast Mariners*
Saturday November 23rd (Unite round at Allianz Stadium):
Brisbane Roar v Adelaide United
Sydney FC v Western Sydney Wanderers*
Sunday November 24th (Unite round at Allianz Stadium):
Wellington Phoenix v Melbourne Victory
Macarthur v Auckland FC
BYE: Melbourne City
Saturday December 7th:
3.00pm AEDT (5.00pm NZ) Auckland FC v Wellington Phoenix at Go Media Mount Smart Stadium
Saturday December 21st:
7.35pm AEDT Melbourne Victory v Melbourne City at AAMI Park
Saturday December 28th:
7.35pm AEDT Sydney FC v Melbourne Victory at Allianz Stadium
Wednesday January 1st:
Auckland FC v Melbourne Victory at Go Media Mount Smart Stadium
*Due to ACL Elite involvement following Tuesday or Wednesday
**Due to ACL Two involvement following Wednesday or Thursday
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Basically it's gonna be a rough season with the bye found, clubs having no money and the Paramount deal still going.
I'm hoping the season after we get: Canberra in to make it 14 teams, a new TV deal either YouTube or Stan and the clubs really trying to engage fans by trying different things
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+xBasically it's gonna be a rough season with the bye found, clubs having no money and the Paramount deal still going.
I'm hoping the season after we get: Canberra in to make it 14 teams, a new TV deal either YouTube or Stan and the clubs really trying to engage fans by trying different things Man, you need to start thinking positively, a bye is not the end of the world. You will still have six games every week to watch on the telly. Be careful what you wish for re: the TV deal. Not many countries around the world show EVERY game live.
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+x+xBasically it's gonna be a rough season with the bye found, clubs having no money and the Paramount deal still going.
I'm hoping the season after we get: Canberra in to make it 14 teams, a new TV deal either YouTube or Stan and the clubs really trying to engage fans by trying different things Man, you need to start thinking positively, a bye is not the end of the world. You will still have six games every week to watch on the telly. Be careful what you wish for re: the TV deal. Not many countries around the world show EVERY game live. I just have flashbacks from under 12s when we had bye rounds hated not playing as a young lad. As the other bloke said they are trying to fit in with the Asian competition so see how it goes.
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+xBasically it's gonna be a rough season with the bye found, clubs having no money and the Paramount deal still going. They seem to have been pretty clever with handling the bye rounds. Having the byes midweek and multiple clubs having bye rounds on the same day, means there isn't huge gaps between games. Example, Roar play on Jan 11th, then have a bye midweek (along with MV and MAC) on the 14th then play again on the 18th. As far as I can tell, the longest gap is 10 days. Obviously I'd prefer no byes, but the schedule could be much worse.
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Just noticed they have also changed the FTA games. Now it will be both Saturday games 5pm and 7:35pm and no FTA on Sunday.
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Hallelujah - All Perth Glory home games have a late afternoon/evening kick off :cool:
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