You didn't have to push the red button through 

You forgot the blur vision of the red button on Fox sports. Great days my arse.

Noticed channel ten don't have a talking heads news show like the other channels in the morning 

Well they should of done it ages ago even before COVID. Aye it's all gone downhill since the Fox sports days slater, bozza and peacock on before the EPL now those were the days everything is just shite since then 

trouble is that any FTA is not going to put aside half hour let alone an hour for a low viewing show/risk.
Only IF a large sponser is going to back up the $$$$'s and thats not going to happen.
FTA owners struggling to keep afloat in the meantime.

Channel ten could put a weekly a league show it doesn't have to be Paramount exclusive 

well all you guys gals re AL need to support it and talk others into it hopefully.
I find P+ pretty useless overall incl the wife, we scan through and most to view is the same/similar as the other apps.
I loaded to watch some AL games but more so Roos/Matildas.
People mention rippa its cost effective, sure it is obviously but you get what you pay for as they say.
MCG wish's for show this show that back up well that is dreaming as mentioned at $10 a pop.
My devoted viewing using Optus Sport has so much to review, listen,read you get what you pay for I suppose.

Yeah I like podcasts but I really miss the old days of everyone watching the same tv show everything on Foxtel . I find most TV shows and movies are shite these days but that's another whinge 

Except and this hurts to the core no other broadcaster wanted it and no one wanted to pay other than pennies.

Given 10 / P+ are not the leading broadcasters, however they are the only media player prepared to pay and broadcast me thinks we need to support them

So maybe, just maybe, the answer is to poll the hardcore fans and at least do the bare minimum of what they want... Ignoring them and chasing the "sport fan" isnt working... 

I know what mean. But part of it is to help themselves! Add some content and value to their platform, make it attractive. Can always up the prices later once numbers are high.

All that for $10 a month ?…..doubt it.
How much more would you be willing to pay?

If I had money, I would pay $200m for just Santo Sam and Ed

Three shows required:

30 minutes highlights from the weekend.
Serious football discussion and analytics show (maybe twice a week pre and post weekend).
Santo, Sam and Ed fun show.

The type of show you are after is now banished from time. Podcasts are what everyone wants these days.

I'd rather Paramount for its very cheap price and amazing qualifier access than someone a bit more 'flash'. While I'd like big punditry etc, the no nonsense approach and ease of access ensures the focus is on the match itself. I just don't think 10 has the money to roll out something big. I would like FTA to be the home of all games and have a dedicated team but it just won't happen. Paramount player is suspect at times so it's just the laptop for me. 

Dazn for example have gone hyper hip and it's now high priced pundits, events, esports and documentary or series after another. The issue is, it's mostly not interesting and doesn't tell a good story.

I think Optus do well and you can't blame anyone for cross promotion but their podcast is a bit of EPL then WSL and La Liga and that's when I turn it off. 

I don't know many good analysts that they could get for a midweek show. My biggest issue is that because it seems like the only option, Paramount know they don't have to get the best for the role. The level of football journalists in this country is not exactly flourishing. We haves some really good guys, then really poor, We need to fix this. 

I don't mind Paramount having it, but they need to do more than Foxtel did to grow the game. It's not hard considering Foxtel did sweet f all

I agree with you but seems we have no choice but to accept it. They will only get the hardcore fans can't see new fans watching. Also I just want a midweek analysis show 

Not sure I like this deal. Paramount as a platform isn't exactly flourishing. There's a possibility it might not last the full deal. On top of that, Ten and Paramount don't really have football quality experts and commentators. It's not the best coverage. 

Paramount will have to provide some serious benefit to subscribers because in a cost of living, people are not going to just keep parting with more money for multiple subscriptions. 

Always the APL's call.

'related' is the question that can be debated til the pubs shut.

though seriously, what does it matter how Slater quotes it, point is be it P or 10 is wrong to quote and the APL are the ones holding the gun how much money is distributed this season due to their own incompetance originally he's just screaming to the clouds for the game the way I see it, bitter, I think many supporters are bitter towards some who rock the boat, works both ways no..
I doubt he really gives a toss not being in the commentry no diff to Bozza, they got enough options and there isn't enough room in the first place but that they/he are football supporters saying their peace.
I have no issue with that for at least it gains some press and gets people to look into things for better understanding, if we can ever get understanding regards our games directions lol.....

Wasn't that Paramount KPI cutback a few years ago under Townsend? So Hill is probably correct that this current cutback is APL's call?

On the Women's Asian Cup - it's important to note that this doubles as qualification for the World Cup (and, in that case, being home qualifers, fall under the Anti-Siphoning list)
6 matches would be Australia's path to the final (3x group games, QF, SF and Final), so would assume that's why that's there.

Hill was having a go back at Slaters network. He conveniently failed to mention that Paramount did cut their payments to the APL, due to KPI's not being met.

'not related' ? maybe, if there was enough cash floating around to absorb the reduction.

My biggest concern is that they are not treating the Asian Cup with enough respect. Only 6 games on FTA in a home Women's Asian cup. The men's is 100% behind a paywall. Granted, Paramount isn't excessively expensive, but all Socceroos games, plus the Semi Finals and Final should be on FTA.


This is the smoking gun that proves Robbie Slater is bitter about not getting a gig on Paramount. This line is total bullshit.

Simon Hill came out a few months ago and categorically stated that the reduced club distribution was an APL decision and not related to TV rights payments. After squandering $140 million, the APL need extra funds for their day to day running. 

I’ll be happy to be proven wrong one day if it when it’s finally for all to see.
I don’t recall of any major sporting body keeping quiet when a new or renewal is a good number.
Simple as that.

Fa have anual budgets so it should come out eventually

Why do you think its so low... there are a number of reasons for keeping it close to your chest... smh reporting its a lot more and I have heard from a mate who knows someone deep in Ch 10 who says it bigger...

Yeah so maybe 40mil a year

Obviously that is short of 50 mil but the fa's entire budget is about 100mil

Travel budget at all levels in 25 mil so thats 15 mil a year to spend on other things which is good

‘Sick to my stomach’: Why TV deal is a disaster for football
Robbie Slater

The rift in Australian football has been highlighted by Paramount and Ten being extended as the host broadcaster of the sport. Leaving Australian soccer in a horrible position once again, ROBBIE SLATER writes.

The bitter feud that raged for years before the APL divorced itself to run the A-League and the FA concentrated just on running its own affairs still exists and is evident in this new deal trumpeted by the FA.

It is extraordinary how football has messed things up in this country.

I have met with the important people in this country and talked to people at all levels of the game and I can tell you now - there is no plan.

I am pissed off that we have now got ourselves in this position that after everything the game has endured, we should go and pat everyone on the back about getting a new TV deal and thank Channel Ten for how they’ve treated football in this country by rewarding it with the Socceroos and Matildas.

It makes me sick to my stomach.

This is a broadcaster that has done no favours at all for the domestic game and told the A-League it must languish in its current deal for the next two years until it expires.

We saw with the pitiful distribution of just $530,000 per club for this upcoming season exactly what Ten and Paramount think of the APL.

Make no mistake, this mega-deal bandied about for many months of $200 million over the next four years is simply not true. I am told the exact figure is well south and is just a 15 per cent increase on their last deal which was reported to be $100m.

You would hope the FA learnt from the APL that this deal is not full of contra and KPIs to trigger bonus payments because that has proven to be a complete disaster for the APL.

It is a risk climbing back into bed with Ten and Paramount given all stories of the financial struggles at Ten and the massive cuts globally at Paramount who are trying to wipe $3 billion off their business.

Was there even a thought given that the mere existence of Ten could be under threat in the coming years?

Ten and Paramount only want football for the Matildas. There is no love for football or desire to grow the game.

It’s just what they saw at the World Cup and the massive ratings and the records that blew every other sport out of the sky.

Don’t forget this is the same broadcaster that didn’t foresee the Matildas mania for a home World Cup - how dumb are they?

They could’ve beaten Seven to those rights but they sat and twiddled their thumbs while Seven broke every record and did a magnificent performance of hosting the World Cup.

Now they’ve paid more, but has the horse bolted in some respects?

I know Australia will host the Asian Cup in 2026 and the Matildas will have a very similar line up with hopefully Sam Kerr back, but after that there are no big tournaments for a long time and the World Cups are all in terrible time zones.

If they think the Matildas alone will transition into massive subscriptions for the ailing Paramount they’re mistaken.

The simple fact will be, the Matildas will be on Ten’s main channel and there will be no need to register for Paramount to watch them except when they play in bad time zones overseas.

And the Matildas brand took a hit at the Olympics, no doubt about it.

The game needs to start championing the next stars of the Matildas for when the champions like Kerr inevitably retire - but there was no mention of supporting the ALeague Women’s or the ALeague Men’s that would help grow the domestic game.

I am disappointed in the FA who were in a position of power here. Every channel would’ve been interested in this broadcast deal, but FA opted to just stick with Ten.

You would hope CEO James Johnson has spoken to Ten and Paramount and said ‘what more are you going to do to promote the domestic game in Australia?’

Because right now Ten is letting the game tread water without a care in the world.

If the FA don’t help fight for the domestic game the APL will find itself in a very difficult position in two years’ time when their broadcast deal ends.

Would they be able to pull away from Ten and create a division of broadcast that impacts fans or do they just have to suck it up and stick with the same old same old.

I’m not making excuses for what the APL have done, they only have themselves to blame for the massive mistakes they’ve made and money they’ve wasted, but at the end of the day I know there’s been a feud and it has to end now.

I think the FA has a moral obligation as the head of football in this country to help the domestic competition - even when maybe there is an argument that it doesn’t really deserve it.