Oh great no Woodcock (because of his barnie with Ord?) so that means they have Clisby and LB and O'Neill (normally a DM) partnering Gallas, AWAY to Brisbane? This will go well :lol:

FMD, has Woodcock knocked up one of Lowe's daughters????

He was one of the better performers last week and gets dropped from the game day squad.

Ad least O'Neill gets a run. :lol:

Oh, yeah, forgot that. :oops:

Funny how Gallas wasn't dropped and he fucked up bigger than any I've seen before.

PG Fan Forum is not run by the club as far as I am aware

Farken break his legs, farken!

Eagerly waiting for the video recording of the meeting.

@Biscuit

I am pretty fucking sure that the fan forum last night was run by the club and that that twitter handle is the official one.

And Fans who used the 'I was there' card.

Edited by andytoddselbow: 27/2/2014 03:56:03 PM

It's complicated, apparently :roll:

The fan forum that the Club CEO organised which was fronted by several senior front and back-room staff?

That fan forum wasn't run by the club?

There is a twitter/facebook account, PGFanForum, which is NOT run by the club. That's what he means.

(I think)

guys guys..........take it to the carpark;)

You are a very rude person :cry:

Seeing as there wasn't much coming out, I thought people might be interested in what the club said at the forum in relation to the issues on here this morning.

It seems not, so I'll just shut the fuck up and you can wait to listen to the Glory Guerilla's podcast or whatever the club puts out, whenever that is.

It was a small, crowded room and there were no microphones so the audio quality will be interesting

So Ass Man has a go at Woodcock, and woodcock gets dropped after playing ok, but still better than most players.

This club needs a do over. Same name, but I honestly feel like it would be best to sack all the staff and all the players and start again. The problem with that is, by sacking the players, we'd lose young players like Da Silva, Davies, Woodcock, O'Neill, Rsidon and McLaren.

Ignoring the plethora of problems on the pitch... I think Ali Edwards gets off far too lightly for our problems on it...

1) We all commented before the season started that while Jamieson and Risdon were pretty good options as full-backs, the lack of depth was concerning. Edwards justified himself with the comment that Davies and Woodcock would be adequate deputies. We subsequently suffer injuries (lack of strength and conditioning coach?) to the first-team players and the backups come in and look OK at best but certainly not of a standard required to be a top A-League team

2) We knew we hadn't replaced the lost CMs from last season and instead plumped up the wing areas way too much. All season we have played with CMs who basically act as extra centre-halves or extra centre-forwards, with not a single midfield player demonstrating anything close to the required standard of on-the-ball play and movement required for a competitive HAL side

3) We play striker, and typically it's acknowledged that a lone forward must be exceptional at something (either very strong and able to hold up play, technically skilful to create space for themselves, genuine burst of pace, clever and able to combine with midfielders to open up the game, target man able to win headers, etc.).

Our CF are both serviceable in all facets of the game, but both are basically goal-scorers beyond anything else. Clearly they've been craving a second forward to work off but Ali Edwards set up the entire squad with the premise of playing with one of Smeltz and Maclaren up front alone. I'm not in the least bit surprised that we have such a poor attacking record.



With Lowe bringing in Nebo, Sernas and Griffiths I think he was *trying* to plug holes in the squad, but I think he has been unlucky in that those players have been both underdone and not quite the right fits that he was after (forgivable since he would be under the restrictions of being an interim coach and also the fact that he's basically entirely WA-based in his experience so unlikely to have significant contacts to bring in the necessary players).




So what does all that mean? I still think Ali Edwards broke this squad and it's not so much the young kids not being good enough as that we have too many players in certain positions and not enough in others. I don't want Lowe next season but I still don't think our on-field performances would be significantly better had Ali Edwards not been dismissed...

The good results we've had this season have been largely off the back of individual brilliance (Vuka saving our skin numerous times, Jamieson in World Cup form until his injury or Sidnei or Smeltz having abnormally strong performances).

Woodcock forever screwing me over in fantasy.

Edwards' biggest fault. Completely was without a way of working the ball up through the center of the pitch, which is why we were so wing-focussed under him.

But we looked so good against Kwinana and Gosnells

Um, no, you directly challenged me on my opinion based on the information that was released (as is your want), you never once stated intent to do anything, you last post was to try to tell me the Glory twitter handle was someone elses, which is clearly ridiculous as anyone that had looked at the link, let alone the quote would have figured out.

Whatever rocks your boat.

The Club repeatedly referred to last night's forum as a Members Forum and I was aware of the twitter/facebook account, PGFanForum. Hence my confusion. Luckily I could be politely corrected.

remember also edwards was to work within a tight budget something that went out the door just before his demise.

To further clarify, it was a "members" forum because only paid members of the club were invited to attend, as opposed to open forums which have been held and are open to anyone with an interest.

Woodcock and Davies has been a positive. Of course they're not A-League standard yet but they've shown their decently competent and have the potential to establish themselves, Davies more than Woodcock atm.

That's what we wanted after all. Young WA players being developed and getting experience. Just because we didn't expect it to be the fullbacks, or both at once is irrelevant.

Not getting an LTIR in for Jamieson...well that's another problem and since Lowe/Brewer didn't address it either, not one which can be focused on Edwards


Sidnei - is Edwards signing and no one is complaining about him
Sernas - is a Lowe signing, only on loan (apparently there's a clause for next season) and is Underdone™ because of Summer™
Zahra + Harold were already at the club and we haven't seen anyone else used on the wings. Ryan Eds briefly against Wellington iirc but that's it.

As for the CDMs, we haven't seen O'Neill play there yet, we've seen Ryan play out of position there, and Cam had a decent game against Adelaide and CCM, and we've agreed before he's technical enough and his passing is a strength but he's been ignored too by Kenny. Meanwhile McGarry and Burns continue to underperform and Griffiths is Underdone™.

Hindsight, yes we should have kept Cordoba but they chose McGarry because he accepted their pay cut and Miller left because of a better pay cheque but Cordoba they didn't think they needed. Obviously we needed another CM excuse the gameplan did drastically change from last season (Wing 2 Wings).

But if our CMs are so shit, why are McGarry and Burns still getting game time instead of blooding youngsters like O'Neill and Cam?


This "lone striker" thing is not Glory trying to re-invent the wheel it's how most team's play these days. Unfortunately where Edwards fell down and where Lowe has utterly failed is their tactics to this focal point of attack is to treat them like they're Heskey-in-his-prime. None have been asked to hold up play, the play doesn't even go through the middle, there's little running on or movement unless it's a counter-attack, and most of the great plays rely on a cross getting lucky and hitting a head of 1-2 people.

That's not a problem with the striker, or not playing a 4-4-2, that's a problem with the tactics, the service and midfielders.

Glory's GF run had Mehmet/Smeltz up front, last season there was again, one striker up front (which is why Mehmet left because he didn't like benchwarming). If you look at Adelaide - they have Djite or Jeronimo there, Wellington play Huysegems in front of Hernandez. Brisbane play Berisha, and Smetlz was banging them in long before he was on the Roar's horizon.

This isn't a complete exoneration of the strikers, lord knows Smeltz is probably passed his prime and Maclaren's finishing has been woeful...but they're not high on the list of 'need to fix'.

As for the #10 being player as a second forward then that again shows utter tactical incompetence.


I remember when McGarry came over in January from a frozen Scotland and played in 30+ heat. Was he Underdone™ too? Or did Underdone™ only become a buzzword recently?

What INTERIM coach that somehow has GAINED the ability to SCOUT and SIGN visa players, suddenly has "restrictions" to sign 'Not-so-good' Visa players? He shouldn't be signing them to begin with, Glory was apparently not meant to be signing players based on DVDs...I'm trying to find a valid excuse here...there is none. As to how Griffiths, one of the best defensive mids at his last stint in the league, can not be a right fit then I'm struggling to come up with someone who would.



I think it's quite clear that since the problems have NOT stopped with Edwards leaving, that the team unity is about as strong as the wind, that Edwards was not the root of all things evil at Glory.

As for results, that was never meant to be a metric this season, so basing it as such shows complete turnabout to what this season was meant to be about...and yet it's landed Glory in a position that's the same, if not worse (after all we were never spoon favourites under Ali).

Yet that has nothing to do with what I meant, which was what you were challenging.

Also I've never seen the Club just refer to it as just a 'Members Forum' but "Perth Glory Fan Forum". I've called it a 'Members Forum' because that's a more accurate term for what it was.

I don't know how you can say that was a "challenge"?

Would have been nice if they actually put the answers to peoples questions in the forum summary. I guess that's something to suggest at the next members forum...

Glory players infighting in the dressing rooms.

Glory fans infighting on forums...





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https://www.google.com.au/search?q=define:+challenge

1st meaning under verb. Understand it.

Also you're quoting the wrong thing:



I am under no illusion as to who I was referencing or what I was saying.

But I'm guessing you're just being contradictory here for the sake of it.

Oh it's ok though, Kenny says we're fine. We're just like a bunch of wives

](*,)

Whatever you reckon ...

Getting back on track:


So, so much for 'ASAP'

Edited by andytoddselbow: 27/2/2014 08:00:27 PM