paulc
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Did the move get Jacob Burns approval first?
In a resort somewhere
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biscuitman1871
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So we sign up Harold until 15/16 and Sidnei to 14/15 and then we spend what will be a significant amount of our limited funds on another winger? Hopefully he is not our overseas marquee and we can still get a quality central midfielder. What sort of message does this send to Harold? And Zahra may as well f#ck off now.
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OMG, this site, only just managed to get logged in and posting.
Madaschi >>>>>>>>> Dino.
Rubbish that a good, Perth player is getting shafted because of an ex-Perth mercenary who the A-League is probably past. Now watch him go back to Heart. :(
Hersi rumours! Oh come on, what is with this shit at the club. Now they're supposedly signing marquees for next season? When a player is not re-signed because he wants too much at his current club, you don't poach him! Let alone when you have a CARETAKER COACH. Which means a) definitely Gallas out but b) Lowe still fucking in. It is almost too much already. A new coach was the light at the end of the tunnel, without that we have at least another season of Kenny (oh but they will not want to get rid of the coach mid-season now, so he will be kept on....and on....and on)
But hey I thought members were meant to be the first to know about signings. :lol:
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hotrod
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Only thing I can think of is that Djulbic wanted back in at Perth more than Madaschi, meaning he was probably cheaper to get than Madaschi. Probably came down to $$. Now with the Hersi signing, it sort of makes sense. Save some dosh on a cheaper CB and get a "marquee"?? FFS, Hersi as a "marquee", that is a joke. And another winger to boot. So glad Glory don't need a Milleresque CAM, phew. ](*,)
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Scoll
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I don't even. I can't. Just no.
This club isn't circling the drain, it's already in the pipes.
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hotrod
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Scoll wrote:I don't even. I can't. Just no.
This club isn't circling the drain, it's already in the pipes. Maybe the club needs to be told in pictures what they obviously can't understand in words:
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AndyToddsElbow
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It doesn't make sense. Madaschi seemingly wants to play. Sign him!
FFS. If there's room for Dino, there's room for Mads.
Glory are still a complete rabble. They've already gone against a couple of things they said they would in the MFF...which was just last week. :lol:
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Hold your horses folks, it doesn't state anywhere in that article that he will take up the foreign marquee spot. Lets wait and see - if we sign him as a player under the cap, then very good signing imo.
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-=GLoRiOuS=- wrote:Hold your horses folks, it doesn't state anywhere in that article that he will take up the foreign marquee spot. Lets wait and see - if we sign him as a player under the cap, then very good signing imo. No it isn't. He's 31 and his current club are not prepared to match his payment demands and don't seem particularly fussed that he's leaving. This should be ringing alarm bells. Or our physio department are bored now that Travis and Gallas will be offloaded
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AndyToddsElbow wrote:OMG, this site, only just managed to get logged in and posting.
Madaschi >>>>>>>>> Dino.
Rubbish that a good, Perth player is getting shafted because of an ex-Perth mercenary who the A-League is probably past. Now watch him go back to Heart. :(
Hersi rumours! Oh come on, what is with this shit at the club. Now they're supposedly signing marquees for next season? When a player is not re-signed because he wants too much at his current club, you don't poach him! Let alone when you have a CARETAKER COACH. Which means a) definitely Gallas out but b) Lowe still fucking in. It is almost too much already. A new coach was the light at the end of the tunnel, without that we have at least another season of Kenny (oh but they will not want to get rid of the coach mid-season now, so he will be kept on....and on....and on)
But hey I thought members were meant to be the first to know about signings. :lol: Gee. I wonder why they didn't want to tell us about this signing.
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AndyToddsElbow
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That's like asking if you want the choice between decapitation or bullet to the head.
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Scoll
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Brewer's denying the Hersi deal, which means it's locked in going by the Sernas saga.
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McGarry was just on a FoxSports segment where he said he was a professional level poker player ](*,)
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libertarian wrote:McGarry was just on a FoxSports segment where he said he was a professional level poker player ](*,) So another in the purple circle. #-o So he'll be around next season too. Yippee.
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I'd be happy with either Djulbic or Madaschi. Not sure that there is as much as a difference in class between them as others make out. And 31yo for a CB is ok.
But signing a 31yo who: - who is a running att mid/winger; - who is alreadt injury prone; - who demands more than the best run club in the league is prepared to pay - who would be turning his back on success for $$$$ - who doesn't address our failings in central midfield is just stupid.
Looks to me that we are aiming at signing the best possible ten players to surround Burns for another season and hope that they can work out how to win. How very Perth Glory.
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anyone got a link to the letter?
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GloryB wrote:I'd be happy with either Djulbic or Madaschi. Not sure that there is as much as a difference in class between them as others make out. And 31yo for a CB is ok. I disagree. Whilst I didn't realise Dino was a Perth SC product so is as local as anyone, still think Madaschi has a better resume, did more last time he was here compared to Dino and is actually a left footer so can play left stopper and Thwaite can slot into the right easily. Not to mention he was training and meant to have signed in Jan, now he's just ignored for Dino? Uninspiring. Agree with your points irt Hersi. NPL Glory starts this week. 10 PG full-time contracted players are eligible: Jack Duncan, Jack Clisby, Brandon O’Neill, Cameron Edwards, Jamie Maclaren, Chris Harold, Daniel Da Silva, Harry O’Brien, Riley Woodcock and Matthew Davies. According to FW.net the other youngsters to look out for: Luke Radonich, Alexander Castiello, Sean Troup, Jacob Collard, Joe Knowles and Borbor Sambindi . Be interesting to see how Duncan/Radonich juggle responsibilities, since both will be in match-day squads whilst the main season is still running. More a problem for away trips I think. Also players like Jamieson who are in rehab/long-term injury list are allowed to play a maximum of 5 games. Have no problem with that.
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What happened to Blamo Quaqua? Think I saw his name on a couple of NYL team sheets this season but he hasn't really progressed. He looked good in the friendly against Celtic but never got another go under Ferguson.
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Played with Jacob Collard in juniors (same team as Scott Galloway and Woodcock). Has good head on his shoulders from memory, very talented player. He's been part of the Glory youth set up for a while, hasn't he?
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GloryB
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Had a bit of a look at the NYL teams for this season. It seems that Quaqua has only featured in 7 or so NYL games and only played one full match, the others he played as a sub or has been subbed off.
He's missed some games altogether when O'Neill or Cedwards has played, but more recently has played a bit with them (as a sub). He's also missed games or played as a sub even when those two weren't playing.
It looks just from the pattern of appearances that he's either fallen out of favour or has struggled with an injury which has prevented him playing at all or running out full games. His only full game was the first one in Oct. His appearances have been pretty scattered since then.
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biscuitman1871 wrote:What happened to Blamo Quaqua? Think I saw his name on a couple of NYL team sheets this season but he hasn't really progressed. He looked good in the friendly against Celtic but never got another go under Ferguson. I was thinking the same thing too, funnily enough. He was with the Senior side briefly last year when Roux was called up too. Should be behind Rosty, O'Neill, CEdwards in that DM/CM position so they just don't rate him? :-k
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With all the talk of what they club 'should' do (Well in regards to the team, atleast):
*Enters dreamland/more ideal world*
What would happen?
- Coach selection process, with due digilence, have found and announced a coach already or as soon as last few weeks of the season - with the coach to arrive, begin pre-season, April/May.
- All re-signings, except obvious younger players/key signings, held off till new regime sorted above.
-Player recruiting for next season on hold till the new regime sorted above. That is, blow me down, DESPITE other A-League and Asian clubs snapping up players in the rush. We hold fast, stead fast, in our belief, club philosophy, to sort the football department first, within the demands of our club's football culture, structure. The club seeks the right coaching regime that will play, perform and even execute to the demands and culture/philosophy of the club, which obviously includes being the apex of the local talent pathway and providing opportunity for those top young talents. The coaching appointment is the priority and they will be given every chance to assemble their squad to perform to the tactical demands (fitting within our culture/expectations - hence his appointment!), going forward.
- Reasonably experienced, Pro-Licence coach, announced. Jacob Burns FC, McGarry and a host of others still have their contracts to be decided. The coach, first things first, exacts the necessary clear out, -Jacobs Burns FC, Steve McGarry, Adrian Zahra, William Gallas, Travis Dodd, mid-season signing Sernas etc... we thank you for your services, though they will no longer be required...
-That leaves with the kind of bare bones squad of: (Contract Exp: 14/15?) GK - Danny Vukovic GK - Duncan CB - Michael Thwaite CB - Clisby RB - Josh Risdon LB - Riley Woodcock LB - Scott Jamieson RB - Matthew Davies DM - Rostyn Griffiths DM/CB - B. O'Neill MC - Cameron Edwards AM - Marinkovic (VISA) AM - De Silva W/ST - Chris Harold W - Sidnei ( VISA) ST - Jamie McLaren (15/16?) = 16 players, 2 VISAs, No Marquees
-Up in the air still? Shane Smeltz - He can stay or go - depends on the new regime and value of deal.
- So, whether Smeltz re-signed or not, that's 16/17 players, with 2 VISA spots to be utilised (Glory prefer to utilise 4/5 in light of FFA plan to shrink back quota and also due to club philosophy).
- Squad demands - VISA Quality in DM/CM (Miller-esque ilk/type player?), VISA Quality Striker/#9 that will suit our style of play, going forward. Experienced CB needed - Madaschi signed. That's now a squad of 19/20 players, 4 VISAs utilised, no marquees used or needed. Three more spots free, most of them to be used on young locals, under 20 - promoted from the NYL Squad, NTS or what not? Except one more reasonable quality player in midfield or attacking third, an Aussie - perhaps Richard Garcia for additional quality an options for the flanks, #10 and also striker.
-Suddenly, our new Pro-level coach has a classier, rejuvenated squad, not greatly changed, but changed enough to be anew and to be better functioning and more competitive, in this league. Quality and experience/entering prime players right where needed, through the spine - recruited players fitting within the coaches and clubs' preferred system of play. Genuine goal scoring capability, well functioning midfield, sturdy defence. Better depth and squad balance. Strong opportunities for the younger talent, especially the likes of Harold and De Silva on the wide flank opposing Sidnei, Davies and Woodcock are deputies to Risdon and Jamieson, as they were this season. Clisby and O'Neill are the #3 and #4 CBs. O'Neill and C.Edwards are the back up DMs. Other youth signings can fill gaps - like another young CB, a young winger to back up Sidnei etc?
*Departs dreamland/more ideal world*
How is that? :-k
Edited by GloryPerth: 8/3/2014 03:24:18 PM
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The only thing you forgot was greater distance between Sage and the players - whether true or not, there has definitely been the appearance of an ongoing link between Sage and an inner circle of players. All well and good getting rid of those players, but if the purple circle is allowed to form again, nothing will change long-term.
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A bit from leftfield, but noticed this on Tony Sage's Wiki page: Quote:As owner of Perth Glory, Sage is known for having a 'calming influence' over his team in times of crisis. Players and coaches alike have reported that Sage's mere presence in the change rooms after a disappointing result is enough to prevent any ill feeling between coaches and players, and prevents his club from becoming a 'laughing stock'. After the A League Grand Final loss to Brisbane Roar in 2011/2012, Captain Jacob Burns reported that he "was ready to punch on" with both the club's goalkeeping coach and kit manager, but felt "an instant serenity" when he saw Sage asking coach Ian Ferguson for his autograph. nice one.
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libertarian wrote:The only thing you forgot was greater distance between Sage and the players - whether true or not, there has definitely been the appearance of an ongoing link between Sage and an inner circle of players. All well and good getting rid of those players, but if the purple circle is allowed to form again, nothing will change long-term. Well yes, therefore the talk about Burns being at the club either on or off the pitch next season (as what you could infer a few weeks ago) fills me with dread. EDIT - oh yeah QuaQua is listed in the NPL squad so he must still be around. Probably a bad year for injuries/fitness then. Edited by andytoddselbow: 8/3/2014 06:45:22 PM
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1-1 at half time in NPL. Glory goal scored by Lawrence Shuruma in around 21st minute. Perth SC equalised just before HT. Woodcock, O'Brien, Cameron Edwards and Quaqua in starting XI. Glory probably should have two more (missed free header in six yard box by #9 and Ref didn't give what looked like a penalty when Woodcock went down in the box) Woodcock playing left wing. Quaqua doesn't look fit. Doesn't get much more than 10 yards either side of centre circle. Standard is not great. Like watching underage football, very few older players ie over what looks like about 22. I watched a bit of Div 1 State League last season and I reckon that was probably higher.
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GloryB
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Ta biscuitman, look forward to hearing your thoughts after the game.
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Finished 1-1. Glory had to rely on an excellent save from Fraser Greenwood. Glory probably deserved to win but couldn't take more than one of the few chances they created. Sorry I can't be more comprehensive re the starting XI, but the team announcement consisted of a nervous girl reading the full squad lists from the program, ie about 20+ each and no numbers. Glory have certainly saved on strips. Home game but played in all white (plain white, collarless shirts,not the away strip). Woodcock easily best on the park. Heaps of time on the ball, good movement. Edwards started OK but seemed to get dragged down to the level of the game. O'Brien played very wide and didn't involve himself in the game. some nice touches though but did not look A League standard or potential. As per half time comments, QuaQua either unfit or lazy. Certainly didn't work hard enough. Jacob Collard very solid at the back. Fraser Greenwood put in a good performance in goal. Strong in the air, off his line quickly, couldn't be faulted for the goal and one excellent save. Perth SC weren't as good as I thought they would be and certainly well below the standard of Bayswater last season. #15 for them came off the bench and completely stuffed up the two good chances he had and along with a few of his team mates looked more suited to Sunday amateurs. Caught the last 20 mins of the under 20s. Very average, sort of game you probably only go to if one of your kids is playing (like the bloke sitting behind me). Edited by biscuitman1871: 9/3/2014 12:36:18 AM
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