GloryPerth
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Libertarian and co, I guess in terms of squad changes - Glory need to do a bit, but not too much? But indeed, it's the club's culture, as Chris Coyne and many of us have said, so, again, hopefully it IS a 'fresh' new regime, with the experience and know how to do the job of reshaping the culture himself - something Edwards was undertaking and cut short in doing. So as Coyney again said (And the CEO in his own words :/) - Everybody seems to seek to continue the work Edwards was undertaking - just depends who is doing the undertaking as to how serious a job they'll do of it. Afterall - Edwards had already taken the club quite far, to quite promising places, during his spell and the club were following that willingly, till the infamous internal bust up.
They just want a version of 'Ali Edwards without the Sons' or some such, ironically. :/
Thank you biscuitman1871.
Ahh Bayswater - that's the team Chris Coyne coaches, isn't it? 8)
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Do you guys say Sydney Derby or Sydney Darby?
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Two page spread in the centre of the Sunday Grimes all about Glory and it's woes. Doesn't miss much and makes Glory look very ordinary compared to other clubs. Also quotes Sage saying his typical "truths" and comparing what the actual "truth" is.
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Eastern Glory
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Iridium1010 wrote:Do you guys say Sydney Derby or Sydney Darby? Darby. But we all know Sidnei is purple anyway ;)
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AndyToddsElbow
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I read that as "parple" ;)
Guess, we need to find a Sunday Grime.
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Eastern Glory
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AndyToddsElbow wrote:I read that as "parple" ;)
Guess, we need to find a Sunday Grime. I'm actually dreading the possibility of today :( Does anyone know what forum Blayne and the GFU boys use? Or do they just stick to twitter and Facebook?
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f1dave
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They use a forum known as a Pub, I think.
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Eastern Glory
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f1dave wrote:They use a forum known as a Pub, I think. I see :lol:
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AndyToddsElbow
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f1dave
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Anyone want to summarise that Sunday Times article?
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AndyToddsElbow
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I'll try. Actual mentions of Sage's infamous poker nights :lol:
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GloryB
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Iridium1010 wrote:Do you guys say Sydney Derby or Sydney Darby? I was always told that the use of Der-by" was a WA thing, as it is similar to how we pronounce the town of Derby in WA. In the rest of Aust and in the UK, they say "dar-by". Now turning to google, I see that the word derby, was historically pronounced "Der-by" up until sometime in the 1800's when the commoners started giving these words more of a "ar" sound and that eventually that became standard. Perhaps because Derby in WA was named in the late 1800's after Lord Derby, who was no doubt a toff and pronounced his name in the then traditional way, we in WA say "der-by". Perhaps also because WA also likes to differentiate itself from the Eastern States, we have stuck with it. So, the correct term would be the Sydney "Dar-by", but if a Derby is held in Perth, its definitely "Der-by".
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AndyToddsElbow
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Risdon dropped from the side altogether!
Guess that means he shouldn't have been rushed back in underdone.
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Eastern Glory
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AndyToddsElbow wrote:Risdon dropped from the side altogether!
Guess that means he shouldn't have been rushed back in underdone. Yep, that was the big point for me.
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hotrod
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AndyToddsElbow wrote:I'll try. Actual mentions of Sage's infamous poker nights :lol: ....and the staff are essentially all Sage's mates from boards and business with other staff having little or no experience in their jobs. Goes through the list of coaches and CEOs with Glory having the highest number of both in the A-league since inception. Compares Glory to other sports and shows Glory are going backwards. No success when others are leaping ahead (Basketball in particular) Glory spent the second highest on player in the A-league.
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f1dave
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Heh. I was told to keep an eye on the Sunday Times this week. Guess I can shelve my current draft article then.
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LOL.
I tweeted that it was good to see the Sunday Times put the Glory owner under the microscope today, at last.
CEO Jason Brewer favourites the tweet. WTF? :lol:
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Actually a rather short article considering it's over two pages. One one side there's a Smeltz column with a line-up graphic made by a 2 year old. Then there's a pic of Sage + Gallas plus a picture montage on the other page, followed by some tables. Tables are: Average crowd figures each season compared to A-League average; Coaches; No. of Coaches at each Inaugural club (Glory top list with Sydney at 7); Chief Executives; Team Salaries (Glory 2nd at $4mill!). IntroOnce a great club yada yada, spending $4mill for the wooden spoon. Unhealthy on the field, worse off it. Talks up Kenny as ideal AE replacement but 5-month contract is bad. Despite Glory's metrics are good compared to other seasons, crowds still dropping compared to rest of league. A-League Problem ChildTalks about Sage entering in and owning the club with Spence of McKeown, then they left in '09. Gooch only one who went through a formal interview process. Sage denies this "We ran a formal process, two of them came through headhunters" (  ) Brewer is a mining associate of Sage, same pattern as others. All the board are Sage associates as well. Well-credentialed insiders (aka anyone with a brain) say this has resulted in a lack of accountability Hollywood FCSage is famous for getting starry-eyed and player agents take advantage of this. He signed Fowler himself, apparently against Mitchell's and Fergie's wishes (denies it) Fowler was included in Sage's Poker Nights. His close relationship with players has raised eyebrows. Comical pursuit of Kewell, the pair only had a photo taken. Next day Kewell was swamped at Perth Airport. "I'm only here to play a golf tournie" Sage put himself at the front of 10/11 marketing campaign alongside Fowler. Coaches Doomed[I'm not entirely sure what the intended message of this part was. It reads a bit sarcastic but doesn't really come off] Lowe has been offered Ass Coach roles at Heart and Roar (doesn't say when) Handed a 5-month contract to prove himself whilst on a shoestring budget This perhaps explains the $300k spent on Jan signings Sernas, Mrrinkovic, Griffiths. Um no it doesn't? :? Rostyn is the cheapest of the bunch (so wrong) Sernas/Marinkovic were always going to take time to settle. After all would the Glory public rather watch them or the ridiculously talent De Silva and locals REdwards, Davies, Woodcock?A-League & WA Sport Flying, Glory NotWildcats are doing awesome, Glory not. With FTA coverage, A-League market has never been better. 5500 members is second lowest behind Wellington. (average 13k) A-League insider says Perth is a big sporting city and should be a huge market. Should be tapping into the Asian/Jakarta region Sage now comments with his usual FFA hate us stuff. "We've got our highest membership, crowds, corporate and sponsorship. Gallop has never come to a Glory game. We're just a backwater to them. It's bullshit. We're in a shambolic state and down $900k before a ball is kicked." (most is truncated, bolded is not) TST reveals most of this as incorrect. FFS pays for all away game flights so Glory only pay, hotels, meals and any additional personnel, actual figure closer to $150k. Talks about Buswells comments earlier in season about Glory being terrible to deal with. Running the club on an oily rag means high turn over of staff and interns thrown into senior roles. Membership campaign has failed for several years (Glory at one time coldn't even breakdown their memebership base) General Manager Anthony Radonich latest to resign. Media Department now headed by former keeper Andy Petterson who has no experience but is an associate of Brewer. End with comment about how WA player's have never been better (Sainsbury, Herd, Williams all close to 'Roos) Glory's problems are affecting grassroots. Also the Glory's problems are a "reason" the state government has put the 'Home of Football' project on the backburner. Higher Intervention may be only tonic for the club. Now I've written all this out it's all going to be put up online isn't it? :lol:
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f1dave wrote:LOL.
I tweeted that it was good to see the Sunday Times put the Glory owner under the microscope today, at last.
CEO Jason Brewer favourites the tweet. WTF? :lol: Come on Dave, most of us have realised that he is nothing but a yes man trying to suck up and keep the fans on side. :-k
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I'll post the Player's Salaries table too because that's actually interesting and relatively new info
Sydney - $6.5mill Perth - $4mill MV - $3.9mill Brisbane - $3.5mill WSW - $3.4mill Newcastle - $3.2mill Adelaide - $3mill MH - $3mill Wellington - $2.7mill CCM - $2.7mill
This is what I don't get about Sage's and the club's logic. They spend so much on marquees and a select few players, all the while making a big song and dance about needing to slash the player budget, so they make other players take pay cuts, sign the youth only because they're on the cheap and basically spend as little as possible on the backroom and on the admin side too.
It's so infuriatingly hypocritical (but ala, no surprise)
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f1dave wrote:Heh. I was told to keep an eye on the Sunday Times this week. Guess I can shelve my current draft article then. I think you can do a far better and comprehensive article than that one, it really is only basic stuff with a bit of new information supplied from "sources"
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Rockypigs wrote:f1dave wrote:LOL.
I tweeted that it was good to see the Sunday Times put the Glory owner under the microscope today, at last.
CEO Jason Brewer favourites the tweet. WTF? :lol: Come on Dave, most of us have realised that he is nothing but a yes man trying to suck up and keep the fans on side. :-k I don't think we'll get a better CEO as long as Sage is there. He seems to have a decent understanding of what is going on, but with the realisation that he can't do zip about it. Just have to understand that and you won't be disappointed.
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Gallas :lol: :lol: :lol:
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GloryB wrote:Iridium1010 wrote:Do you guys say Sydney Derby or Sydney Darby? I was always told that the use of Der-by" was a WA thing, as it is similar to how we pronounce the town of Derby in WA. In the rest of Aust and in the UK, they say "dar-by". Now turning to google, I see that the word derby, was historically pronounced "Der-by" up until sometime in the 1800's when the commoners started giving these words more of a "ar" sound and that eventually that became standard. Perhaps because Derby in WA was named in the late 1800's after Lord Derby, who was no doubt a toff and pronounced his name in the then traditional way, we in WA say "der-by". Perhaps also because WA also likes to differentiate itself from the Eastern States, we have stuck with it. So, the correct term would be the Sydney "Dar-by", but if a Derby is held in Perth, its definitely "Der-by". I say Der-by for anything spelled Derby, I never use Dar-by. but thank you for the history! Edited by iridium1010: 9/3/2014 04:16:15 PM
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94 - Full time is called with both teams forced to share the points. It's 1-1 at full time and certain teams with Jets and Heart in their name will be delighted with this result. Wellington lose points at home in the crucial stages of the finals chase. 92 - YELLOW CARD - Marinkovic goes in really hard with his feet up and that sees the referee issue the yellow card. 91 - Lovely ball from Cunningham to Huysegems who just gets too much on the header. 89 - Hicks drives the shot from outside the box, but it's high and wide. 86 - Perth are suddenly looking like a very tired team. 84 - GOAL PHOENIX - Boyd with the cross from the left. Cunningham jumps up uncontested and heads it downwards straight into the back of the net. 1-1! 82 - Ernie Merrick would not want to check his blood pressure after the match. Ridenton has just missed an open goal opportunity. 80 - Jack Duncan playing in his second game makes a game saving change off Cunningham. However, he is seen elbowing him in the face shortly after. 77 - Perth looking to waste a second here and there as they set about running the clock down. 74 - SUBSTITUTION - Glory clear their bench too with McGarry coming on for Griffiths.
So for all of that, we've slipped further behind the 6th team after the weekend. But if NZ have 55% to 45% possession, and 21 shots on goal to [size=6][size=7]7[/size][/size], I'd expect to get at least a point from the game too. Look forward to hearing how incisive our attacking play was. (now had 25 shots in 3 weeks).
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The pitch was poor and passing wasn't so great from both sides. We tried to move it along the ground a fair bit more, but at times were getting in each other's way. A lot more attempts to pass it up to a forward with their back to goal to hold it up and pass it back to the oncoming runners, but with not a great deal of success. A lot of passing in triangles down the touch line, but mostly under a fair bit of pressure and it was a bit predictable at time. Still, as the match wore on, I think our passing game improved. Unfortunately, our delivery and movement into the final third continues to be poor, although we had a couple of decent passages of play moving it around the box in the second half.
Davies started a bit shakily, but got better and was very nippy and did well. Sidnei good, Nebo more involved, Burns was also improved. Smeltz tried to get involved but again didn't see much of it. Gallas was good, took the goal with his left nicely after a good passing move involving him, Nebo and Burns with the cut back assist. Harold worked very hard, but his shooting/skills let him down a fair bit. Clisby is ok, but sells himself a bit at LB and I REALLY think he should be a CB option if Jamo or Woodcock are fit. Thwaite was ok, but looks to have done his back pretty badly. Maclaren and O'Neill came on at half time for Smeltz and the injured Thwaite and Maclaren was again lively, but he seems to lack that yard of pace or touch to beat his defender in a race on the ball. He did a few clever things. I think he will be ok - he was much more involved that Smeltz.
Now, on to Duncan. He started fine and his kicking out with left and right feet was mostly ok - a few errors. Wasn't picking out our players all that much, but was hitting it to areas where we often had advantage in numbers once the ball hit the deck.
It was all going well until the 80th minute, where he made himself big to save the back post header from Cunningham and in his scramble for the ball which was on the ground, he elbowed Kenny right on the jaw. On the TV, it looked dead set deliberate - although also strange as it wasn't real hard, just really well aimed. Almost as if it happened in slow motion. His only defence might be that he had lost the ball on the ground and had moved his arm to try to look down around Kenny's body for the ball. Straight after the elbow, his attention then went 180 degrees to the ground behind him where the ball was. But if he can make that fly - he should be done by MRP.
Could be a blessing in disguise, because he completely misjudged the cross that led to the goal - and left his line to leave an open goal. It may not have made a difference, but it looked ugly. Duncan knew it and his confidence was pretty shattered after that - the crowd giving him the dodgy keeper call, as well they might.
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TBF to Duncan with the goal, he shouldn't have come for it, but Clisby didn't do a good enough job marking Cunningham. He had an un-opposed run at it, Clisby didn't come close to him until it was too late. Even if Duncan had stayed in goal, not sure if he would've saved it.
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GloryB wrote:The pitch was poor and passing wasn't so great from both sides. We tried to move it along the ground a fair bit more, but at times were getting in each other's way. A lot more attempts to pass it up to a forward with their back to goal to hold it up and pass it back to the oncoming runners, but with not a great deal of success. A lot of passing in triangles down the touch line, but mostly under a fair bit of pressure and it was a bit predictable at time. Still, as the match wore on, I think our passing game improved. Unfortunately, our delivery and movement into the final third continues to be poor, although we had a couple of decent passages of play moving it around the box in the second half.
Davies started a bit shakily, but got better and was very nippy and did well. Sidnei good, Nebo more involved, Burns was also improved. Smeltz tried to get involved but again didn't see much of it. Gallas was good, took the goal with his left nicely after a good passing move involving him, Nebo and Burns with the cut back assist. Harold worked very hard, but his shooting/skills let him down a fair bit. Clisby is ok, but sells himself a bit at LB and I REALLY think he should be a CB option if Jamo or Woodcock are fit. Thwaite was ok, but looks to have done his back pretty badly. Maclaren and O'Neill came on at half time for Smeltz and the injured Thwaite and Maclaren was again lively, but he seems to lack that yard of pace or touch to beat his defender in a race on the ball. He did a few clever things. I think he will be ok - he was much more involved that Smeltz.
Now, on to Duncan. He started fine and his kicking out with left and right feet was mostly ok - a few errors. Wasn't picking out our players all that much, but was hitting it to areas where we often had advantage in numbers once the ball hit the deck.
It was all going well until the 80th minute, where he made himself big to save the back post header from Cunningham and in his scramble for the ball which was on the ground, he elbowed Kenny right on the jaw. On the TV, it looked dead set deliberate - although also strange as it wasn't real hard, just really well aimed. Almost as if it happened in slow motion. His only defence might be that he had lost the ball on the ground and had moved his arm to try to look down around Kenny's body for the ball. Straight after the elbow, his attention then went 180 degrees to the ground behind him where the ball was. But if he can make that fly - he should be done by MRP.
Could be a blessing in disguise, because he completely misjudged the cross that led to the goal - and left his line to leave an open goal. It may not have made a difference, but it looked ugly. Duncan knew it and his confidence was pretty shattered after that - the crowd giving him the dodgy keeper call, as well they might. On Duncan. They were both scrambling for the ball. Duncan trying to flail around trying to stop the ball and neither playing knowing where it was. Cunningham is just a whiney little bitch mouthing off and carrying on over everything.
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I think that will be Duncan's defence. When I played it back a few times, it looked deliberate, but kind of surreal too. Perhaps he was moving his arm away to look beyond it for the ball. Not entirely sure.
Surprisingly, Cunningham didn't go as ape s*** as one would expect after copping the elbow. He went mental at other times, but not so much then. Perhaps he thought it was an accident, cos if he thought it wasn't you can bet your bottom dollar he would have been ranting on about it.
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Benjo wrote:TBF to Duncan with the goal, he shouldn't have come for it, but Clisby didn't do a good enough job marking Cunningham. He had an un-opposed run at it, Clisby didn't come close to him until it was too late. Even if Duncan had stayed in goal, not sure if he would've saved it. Interesting. :-k Kenny said the exact same thing in his press conference when having another go at the youngsters.
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