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+x+x+x+x+x+xThat’s a fair enough criticism above ^^But I think he is talking about the drugs issue. Seriously, you only have yourself to blame if taking drugs harm you. Unless of course someone else stuffs them down your throat Obviously he was pointing out the drug issue, and I was pointing out the absurdity in his underlying logic when applying it to another issue. If it's a "fair enough criticism" in regards to teaching safe sex to highschoolers, then it's "fair enough" with regards to drugs because it's the exact same thought process. It's recognizing that this risky behavior IS going to happen regardless of how much you preach against it, and then doing things to mitigate the risk. Conducting public policy under the maxim of "everyone can worry about themselves lol" is a non-nonsensical way to approach things. Lemme ask you this - if you're kid was going to a music festival, would you be happier and safer knowing there was pill testing there? Well well, my post just as NBC saw it as was on the social drugs but you saw to take it further...... I support educating through our school systems from primary to seniors....and where ever else can help/guide/warn. Be it drugs/safe sex/as well as general rights and wrong/good manners :) and also that its up to YOU making the right choice. Not because it wasn't highlighted in black and white or in lights for if thats the case if there is no highlighted warning/testing - or testing or whatever does my/their brain register its ok to try E/ice or drink 4bottles of scotch. SFC1987, Yes I have experienced some drugs between ages of 16 to late 20's and have been a social drinker for a long time and to date, I always had fear in my mind taking what I didn't know what it was but watched waited till I saw the social patterns evolve by others before I tried something new/stronger ones. Had some awesum times that I'm sure others can relate. In the end I grew out of it....more so I could see my mates getting no where And I was playing rep football and other sports, I couldn't afford to abuse my body like they were and get on with life. Just as with my drinking - I've learnt where my limitations are and manage it well. 433, my 18yr old son is going to rolling loud festival Jan 27 with his girl, we can't rely on what the Gov or whatever organisation should or shouldn't be doing today for whatever someone wishs to introduce for the good for a change is either blocked or ends up going through so much red tape that its too late by the time something does get approved, how many have suffered in between ?! I wish for the Gov/narcs/police have more support and better system/s getting the bloody dealers first instead of the silly innocent takers. Partly why I said "its always someone else's fault" well were (the wife and I) can't relying on the educating system (fark thats pear shaped in the first place but there is some good) but were the obvious educators more than anything else and fortunately have a great relationship I feel with our 3kids, thats the way I see it and discuss as much as as we can together or one on one. Everyone is different right. We also have 3 great examples within the family realm where you end up not knowing whats better for you making the wrong choice, 1 is a coke/prostitute addict, another has been a dealer/crim/done time 3times/another our friends eldest son same age as ours/over drunk/E's/etc brain is Fried, lost the plot/been in out rehab last 5yrs, on drugs galore to help then again he's suffering with weight/depression etcetc - even the prescribed drugs are fucken bad right. fyi Our 25yr old son, no worries he wasn't that out there and drugs just didn't come into his "got to try" train of thought. The 18yrs boy, typically polar opposite to his older bro, he's out there more than I like and at 18 hey got to let the leash go, I know he's been having some dope, hits the party rage drinks just hope he realise's as I did in time. Got a 13yrs daughter - no prob as yet but man gonna be a huge challenge compared to the boys lol....... I expect all 3 have learnt enough from us in making the right decision regards social drugs alcohol more so than the authorities but this is us. Good on you mate. You got to rely on your own devices, and it isn't the Government's responsibility. But he admits he took drugs at the age these kids die now. He was lucky, they were unlucky. 50 years later to say "you made your choices so bad luck" is just strange. These kids that die at a festival don't have the chance to "grow out of it" and become responsible adults. They are dead from making the exact same decision he didn't die from. I don't know. People. Yep. Hypocrisy at its finest. Excuse me you guys. Easy to quote things without nothing a person for starters ! Also where did I say "you made choices bad luck" ?! GTFO ! I sure did say warning if the fire is hot don't touch, stupid is stupid I'm sorry. Then there is a mention of "luck" NO it was not luck it was being bloody careful !!!! and not jumping in without knowing what it did to you. Thats not fucken luck thats using common sense imo. 50yrs later also is BS by the way. Naturally there are those I saw never worried what they took at a concert/festival just as what occurs today and had bad experiences/.hospitilised etcetc And some friends of friends had died as well. I don't think I deserved the attack/abuse from my experience/s - I've never said no to pill testing as well and supported more warnings/support but probably came across I feel the best advise comes from home especially IF you have tried things as well. GGF yourselves.
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+xWRGMG: Professional contacts who ad me on Fb, but then don't seem half as interested in promoting their business as they do in filling my feed with their preaching on why their particular political social ideology is correct and everybody else is unenlightened or some kind of menace to society. It's their loss, and they quickly get unfollowed- but the whole thing feels a bit disingenuous. Like why did they ad me? I barely post anything on my wall these days and I have a separate business account for professional stuff. LinkedIn for professional stuff imo. As you said, keep things separate.
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+xWgmg: miscaculating j my pay after being on break for 3 weeks . Bills need to be paid Hope they fix that up within a week.
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+x+xWRGMG: Professional contacts who ad me on Fb, but then don't seem half as interested in promoting their business as they do in filling my feed with their preaching on why their particular political social ideology is correct and everybody else is unenlightened or some kind of menace to society. It's their loss, and they quickly get unfollowed- but the whole thing feels a bit disingenuous. Like why did they ad me? I barely post anything on my wall these days and I have a separate business account for professional stuff. LinkedIn for professional stuff imo. As you said, keep things separate. Yeah I'm all over LinkedIn for that reason.
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+x+xWgmg: miscaculating j my pay after being on break for 3 weeks . Bills need to be paid Hope they fix that up within a week. What stuffed me up is my annual leave.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThat’s a fair enough criticism above ^^But I think he is talking about the drugs issue. Seriously, you only have yourself to blame if taking drugs harm you. Unless of course someone else stuffs them down your throat Obviously he was pointing out the drug issue, and I was pointing out the absurdity in his underlying logic when applying it to another issue. If it's a "fair enough criticism" in regards to teaching safe sex to highschoolers, then it's "fair enough" with regards to drugs because it's the exact same thought process. It's recognizing that this risky behavior IS going to happen regardless of how much you preach against it, and then doing things to mitigate the risk. Conducting public policy under the maxim of "everyone can worry about themselves lol" is a non-nonsensical way to approach things. Lemme ask you this - if you're kid was going to a music festival, would you be happier and safer knowing there was pill testing there? Well well, my post just as NBC saw it as was on the social drugs but you saw to take it further...... I support educating through our school systems from primary to seniors....and where ever else can help/guide/warn. Be it drugs/safe sex/as well as general rights and wrong/good manners :) and also that its up to YOU making the right choice. Not because it wasn't highlighted in black and white or in lights for if thats the case if there is no highlighted warning/testing - or testing or whatever does my/their brain register its ok to try E/ice or drink 4bottles of scotch. SFC1987, Yes I have experienced some drugs between ages of 16 to late 20's and have been a social drinker for a long time and to date, I always had fear in my mind taking what I didn't know what it was but watched waited till I saw the social patterns evolve by others before I tried something new/stronger ones. Had some awesum times that I'm sure others can relate. In the end I grew out of it....more so I could see my mates getting no where And I was playing rep football and other sports, I couldn't afford to abuse my body like they were and get on with life. Just as with my drinking - I've learnt where my limitations are and manage it well. 433, my 18yr old son is going to rolling loud festival Jan 27 with his girl, we can't rely on what the Gov or whatever organisation should or shouldn't be doing today for whatever someone wishs to introduce for the good for a change is either blocked or ends up going through so much red tape that its too late by the time something does get approved, how many have suffered in between ?! I wish for the Gov/narcs/police have more support and better system/s getting the bloody dealers first instead of the silly innocent takers. Partly why I said "its always someone else's fault" well were (the wife and I) can't relying on the educating system (fark thats pear shaped in the first place but there is some good) but were the obvious educators more than anything else and fortunately have a great relationship I feel with our 3kids, thats the way I see it and discuss as much as as we can together or one on one. Everyone is different right. We also have 3 great examples within the family realm where you end up not knowing whats better for you making the wrong choice, 1 is a coke/prostitute addict, another has been a dealer/crim/done time 3times/another our friends eldest son same age as ours/over drunk/E's/etc brain is Fried, lost the plot/been in out rehab last 5yrs, on drugs galore to help then again he's suffering with weight/depression etcetc - even the prescribed drugs are fucken bad right. fyi Our 25yr old son, no worries he wasn't that out there and drugs just didn't come into his "got to try" train of thought. The 18yrs boy, typically polar opposite to his older bro, he's out there more than I like and at 18 hey got to let the leash go, I know he's been having some dope, hits the party rage drinks just hope he realise's as I did in time. Got a 13yrs daughter - no prob as yet but man gonna be a huge challenge compared to the boys lol....... I expect all 3 have learnt enough from us in making the right decision regards social drugs alcohol more so than the authorities but this is us. Good on you mate. You got to rely on your own devices, and it isn't the Government's responsibility. But he admits he took drugs at the age these kids die now. He was lucky, they were unlucky. 50 years later to say "you made your choices so bad luck" is just strange. These kids that die at a festival don't have the chance to "grow out of it" and become responsible adults. They are dead from making the exact same decision he didn't die from. I don't know. People. Yep. Hypocrisy at its finest. Excuse me you guys. Easy to quote things without nothing a person for starters ! Also where did I say "you made choices bad luck" ?! GTFO ! I sure did say warning if the fire is hot don't touch, stupid is stupid I'm sorry. Then there is a mention of "luck" NO it was not luck it was being bloody careful !!!! and not jumping in without knowing what it did to you. Thats not fucken luck thats using common sense imo. 50yrs later also is BS by the way. Naturally there are those I saw never worried what they took at a concert/festival just as what occurs today and had bad experiences/.hospitilised etcetc And some friends of friends had died as well. I don't think I deserved the attack/abuse from my experience/s - I've never said no to pill testing as well and supported more warnings/support but probably came across I feel the best advise comes from home especially IF you have tried things as well. GGF yourselves. "its always someone else's fault why a fellow human makes the wrong choice/s, seriously spare us." Sorry LFC but you can't write that, mention that you used drugs as a youth, ands not expect people to not call you a hypocrite.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThat’s a fair enough criticism above ^^But I think he is talking about the drugs issue. Seriously, you only have yourself to blame if taking drugs harm you. Unless of course someone else stuffs them down your throat Obviously he was pointing out the drug issue, and I was pointing out the absurdity in his underlying logic when applying it to another issue. If it's a "fair enough criticism" in regards to teaching safe sex to highschoolers, then it's "fair enough" with regards to drugs because it's the exact same thought process. It's recognizing that this risky behavior IS going to happen regardless of how much you preach against it, and then doing things to mitigate the risk. Conducting public policy under the maxim of "everyone can worry about themselves lol" is a non-nonsensical way to approach things. Lemme ask you this - if you're kid was going to a music festival, would you be happier and safer knowing there was pill testing there? Well well, my post just as NBC saw it as was on the social drugs but you saw to take it further...... I support educating through our school systems from primary to seniors....and where ever else can help/guide/warn. Be it drugs/safe sex/as well as general rights and wrong/good manners :) and also that its up to YOU making the right choice. Not because it wasn't highlighted in black and white or in lights for if thats the case if there is no highlighted warning/testing - or testing or whatever does my/their brain register its ok to try E/ice or drink 4bottles of scotch. SFC1987, Yes I have experienced some drugs between ages of 16 to late 20's and have been a social drinker for a long time and to date, I always had fear in my mind taking what I didn't know what it was but watched waited till I saw the social patterns evolve by others before I tried something new/stronger ones. Had some awesum times that I'm sure others can relate. In the end I grew out of it....more so I could see my mates getting no where And I was playing rep football and other sports, I couldn't afford to abuse my body like they were and get on with life. Just as with my drinking - I've learnt where my limitations are and manage it well. 433, my 18yr old son is going to rolling loud festival Jan 27 with his girl, we can't rely on what the Gov or whatever organisation should or shouldn't be doing today for whatever someone wishs to introduce for the good for a change is either blocked or ends up going through so much red tape that its too late by the time something does get approved, how many have suffered in between ?! I wish for the Gov/narcs/police have more support and better system/s getting the bloody dealers first instead of the silly innocent takers. Partly why I said "its always someone else's fault" well were (the wife and I) can't relying on the educating system (fark thats pear shaped in the first place but there is some good) but were the obvious educators more than anything else and fortunately have a great relationship I feel with our 3kids, thats the way I see it and discuss as much as as we can together or one on one. Everyone is different right. We also have 3 great examples within the family realm where you end up not knowing whats better for you making the wrong choice, 1 is a coke/prostitute addict, another has been a dealer/crim/done time 3times/another our friends eldest son same age as ours/over drunk/E's/etc brain is Fried, lost the plot/been in out rehab last 5yrs, on drugs galore to help then again he's suffering with weight/depression etcetc - even the prescribed drugs are fucken bad right. fyi Our 25yr old son, no worries he wasn't that out there and drugs just didn't come into his "got to try" train of thought. The 18yrs boy, typically polar opposite to his older bro, he's out there more than I like and at 18 hey got to let the leash go, I know he's been having some dope, hits the party rage drinks just hope he realise's as I did in time. Got a 13yrs daughter - no prob as yet but man gonna be a huge challenge compared to the boys lol....... I expect all 3 have learnt enough from us in making the right decision regards social drugs alcohol more so than the authorities but this is us. Good on you mate. You got to rely on your own devices, and it isn't the Government's responsibility. But he admits he took drugs at the age these kids die now. He was lucky, they were unlucky. 50 years later to say "you made your choices so bad luck" is just strange. These kids that die at a festival don't have the chance to "grow out of it" and become responsible adults. They are dead from making the exact same decision he didn't die from. I don't know. People. Yep. Hypocrisy at its finest. Excuse me you guys. Easy to quote things without nothing a person for starters ! Also where did I say "you made choices bad luck" ?! GTFO ! I sure did say warning if the fire is hot don't touch, stupid is stupid I'm sorry. Then there is a mention of "luck" NO it was not luck it was being bloody careful !!!! and not jumping in without knowing what it did to you. Thats not fucken luck thats using common sense imo. 50yrs later also is BS by the way. Naturally there are those I saw never worried what they took at a concert/festival just as what occurs today and had bad experiences/.hospitilised etcetc And some friends of friends had died as well. I don't think I deserved the attack/abuse from my experience/s - I've never said no to pill testing as well and supported more warnings/support but probably came across I feel the best advise comes from home especially IF you have tried things as well. GGF yourselves. "its always someone else's fault why a fellow human makes the wrong choice/s, seriously spare us." Sorry LFC but you can't write that, mention that you used drugs as a youth, ands not expect people to not call you a hypocrite. I sure can talking from experience and I'm sure I wouldn't be alone. Have all the warnings in the world it still comes down to the individual who makes the call what and not to take/try.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xThat’s a fair enough criticism above ^^But I think he is talking about the drugs issue. Seriously, you only have yourself to blame if taking drugs harm you. Unless of course someone else stuffs them down your throat Obviously he was pointing out the drug issue, and I was pointing out the absurdity in his underlying logic when applying it to another issue. If it's a "fair enough criticism" in regards to teaching safe sex to highschoolers, then it's "fair enough" with regards to drugs because it's the exact same thought process. It's recognizing that this risky behavior IS going to happen regardless of how much you preach against it, and then doing things to mitigate the risk. Conducting public policy under the maxim of "everyone can worry about themselves lol" is a non-nonsensical way to approach things. Lemme ask you this - if you're kid was going to a music festival, would you be happier and safer knowing there was pill testing there? Well well, my post just as NBC saw it as was on the social drugs but you saw to take it further...... I support educating through our school systems from primary to seniors....and where ever else can help/guide/warn. Be it drugs/safe sex/as well as general rights and wrong/good manners :) and also that its up to YOU making the right choice. Not because it wasn't highlighted in black and white or in lights for if thats the case if there is no highlighted warning/testing - or testing or whatever does my/their brain register its ok to try E/ice or drink 4bottles of scotch. SFC1987, Yes I have experienced some drugs between ages of 16 to late 20's and have been a social drinker for a long time and to date, I always had fear in my mind taking what I didn't know what it was but watched waited till I saw the social patterns evolve by others before I tried something new/stronger ones. Had some awesum times that I'm sure others can relate. In the end I grew out of it....more so I could see my mates getting no where And I was playing rep football and other sports, I couldn't afford to abuse my body like they were and get on with life. Just as with my drinking - I've learnt where my limitations are and manage it well. 433, my 18yr old son is going to rolling loud festival Jan 27 with his girl, we can't rely on what the Gov or whatever organisation should or shouldn't be doing today for whatever someone wishs to introduce for the good for a change is either blocked or ends up going through so much red tape that its too late by the time something does get approved, how many have suffered in between ?! I wish for the Gov/narcs/police have more support and better system/s getting the bloody dealers first instead of the silly innocent takers. Partly why I said "its always someone else's fault" well were (the wife and I) can't relying on the educating system (fark thats pear shaped in the first place but there is some good) but were the obvious educators more than anything else and fortunately have a great relationship I feel with our 3kids, thats the way I see it and discuss as much as as we can together or one on one. Everyone is different right. We also have 3 great examples within the family realm where you end up not knowing whats better for you making the wrong choice, 1 is a coke/prostitute addict, another has been a dealer/crim/done time 3times/another our friends eldest son same age as ours/over drunk/E's/etc brain is Fried, lost the plot/been in out rehab last 5yrs, on drugs galore to help then again he's suffering with weight/depression etcetc - even the prescribed drugs are fucken bad right. fyi Our 25yr old son, no worries he wasn't that out there and drugs just didn't come into his "got to try" train of thought. The 18yrs boy, typically polar opposite to his older bro, he's out there more than I like and at 18 hey got to let the leash go, I know he's been having some dope, hits the party rage drinks just hope he realise's as I did in time. Got a 13yrs daughter - no prob as yet but man gonna be a huge challenge compared to the boys lol....... I expect all 3 have learnt enough from us in making the right decision regards social drugs alcohol more so than the authorities but this is us. Good on you mate. You got to rely on your own devices, and it isn't the Government's responsibility. But he admits he took drugs at the age these kids die now. He was lucky, they were unlucky. 50 years later to say "you made your choices so bad luck" is just strange. These kids that die at a festival don't have the chance to "grow out of it" and become responsible adults. They are dead from making the exact same decision he didn't die from. I don't know. People. Yep. Hypocrisy at its finest. Excuse me you guys. Easy to quote things without nothing a person for starters ! Also where did I say "you made choices bad luck" ?! GTFO ! I sure did say warning if the fire is hot don't touch, stupid is stupid I'm sorry. Then there is a mention of "luck" NO it was not luck it was being bloody careful !!!! and not jumping in without knowing what it did to you. Thats not fucken luck thats using common sense imo. 50yrs later also is BS by the way. Naturally there are those I saw never worried what they took at a concert/festival just as what occurs today and had bad experiences/.hospitilised etcetc And some friends of friends had died as well. I don't think I deserved the attack/abuse from my experience/s - I've never said no to pill testing as well and supported more warnings/support but probably came across I feel the best advise comes from home especially IF you have tried things as well. GGF yourselves. "its always someone else's fault why a fellow human makes the wrong choice/s, seriously spare us." Sorry LFC but you can't write that, mention that you used drugs as a youth, ands not expect people to not call you a hypocrite. I sure can talking from experience and I'm sure I wouldn't be alone. Have all the warnings in the world it still comes down to the individual who makes the call what and not to take/try. I don't think anyone on any side of this debate has ever said otherwise. When the topic of pill-testing is being discussed and you comment "its always someone else's fault why a fellow human makes the wrong choice/s, seriously spare us.", how is anybody not supposed to infer that you're against it? Do you not understand how the English language works?
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+xWGMG: Being decimated by illness, consistantly have a sore back and fractured foot... my neurologist suspects osteoporosis brought on by taking carbamazepine for extended period of time. On top of all this... struck down by a fucking kidney stone, woke up around 6am this morning, incredible pain, no idea what was going on, lots of pain and nausea. Wife drove me to hospital, walked into emergency, within 20 minutes id been admitted, cannula in and on my way to ct scan. Am staying in for the night, which i thought was over the top but i don't know much about them, apparently the worst is behind me, pain wise.
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+x+xWGMG: Being decimated by illness, consistantly have a sore back and fractured foot... my neurologist suspects osteoporosis brought on by taking carbamazepine for extended period of time. On top of all this... struck down by a fucking kidney stone, woke up around 6am this morning, incredible pain, no idea what was going on, lots of pain and nausea. Wife drove me to hospital, walked into emergency, within 20 minutes id been admitted, cannula in and on my way to ct scan. Am staying in for the night, which i thought was over the top but i don't know much about them, apparently the worst is behind me, pain wise. All the best and rest up mate. Got Kayo I hope - if not get a 14 week trial now.
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WGMG: This fucking monsoon. Fucking over it. Starting to get to the anger part of the 7 steps of whatever. -PB
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+x+xWGMG: Being decimated by illness, consistantly have a sore back and fractured foot... my neurologist suspects osteoporosis brought on by taking carbamazepine for extended period of time. On top of all this... struck down by a fucking kidney stone, woke up around 6am this morning, incredible pain, no idea what was going on, lots of pain and nausea. Wife drove me to hospital, walked into emergency, within 20 minutes id been admitted, cannula in and on my way to ct scan. Am staying in for the night, which i thought was over the top but i don't know much about them, apparently the worst is behind me, pain wise. Fuck me drunk. Get better soon.
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Welp this is it, dam is about to be fully opened dumping 2000m3 of water per second, most of Townsville will flood. Here's hoping there's something left come the morning. -PB
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+xWelp this is it, dam is about to be fully opened dumping 2000m3 of water per second, most of Townsville will flood. Here's hoping there's something left come the morning. -PB Stay safe mate.
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Utterly catastrophic. Another 1000+mm predicted for the next 10 days. Worst flooding this country will have seen in a century. Fuck. -PB
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Survived the night, Army doing patrols in ducks and choppers looking for people to evacuate and rescue. Peak flows should be another 3 hours. Million litres a second coming out of the dam ATM -PB
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+xSurvived the night, Army doing patrols in ducks and choppers looking for people to evacuate and rescue. Peak flows should be another 3 hours. Million litres a second coming out of the dam ATM -PB Yikes. Hope you're doing ok.
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Stay safe mate.
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Waters might finally be receding now that the rain has stopped. Still no work for a few days it seems. Most of me and my family got away ok (only knee deep water underneath my brothers place, cousins dodged flooding rivers) but one cousin had waste deep water throughout her house, everything inside and out is trashed. My home village got 2000mm of rain in just over 7 days, still don't know what the houses are like up there. -PB
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Stay safe and hope you and the others recover quickly. It’s just crazy.
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WRGMG: Arrogant pole-smokers who shit on teams like Arsenal, Liverpool and Spurs 24/7. They usually support Man City or Chelsea and carry on like swinging dicks because "my team actually knows how to win trophies when it counts". Yeah righto dipshit- your team aren't successful because of some amazing, long established culture of success- your team wins trophies virtually because they are bought for you. Bragging about that is like bragging about how your website ranks #1 on Google as a paid listing. Or about how that girl you rooted last weekend is hotter than any bird your mates have ever slept with- neglecting to mention she was a call-girl. If it wasn't for oil money, your teams would consider winning the FA Cup once a decade and staying in the PL to be a resounding achievement. And you probably wouldn't even support them. If the title race this season was between Liverpool, Spurs and Arsenal I could at least respect the latter two for winning the lot, because they are actual football clubs who built good teams from the ground up. City and Chelsea are play-things for billionaire's. Whenever they win a major trophy, it feels like back in school when the Principal's son used to get another commendation award. The murmur goes up and you know exactly why it happened... Time and again these same FIFA experts also follow Golden State Warriors in the NBA, the Patriots in the NFL, the Swans in the AFL and the Roosters/ Storm/ Broncos in the NRL. Work that one out...
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The Most Popular Presidential Candidate Of All Time (TM) cant go to a sports stadium in the country he presides over. Figure that one out...
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+xWRGMG: Arrogant pole-smokers who shit on teams like Arsenal, Liverpool and Spurs 24/7. They usually support Man City or Chelsea and carry on like swinging dicks because "my team actually knows how to win trophies when it counts". Yeah righto dipshit- your team aren't successful because of some amazing, long established culture of success- your team wins trophies virtually because they are bought for you. Bragging about that is like bragging about how your website ranks #1 on Google as a paid listing. Or about how that girl you rooted last weekend is hotter than any bird your mates have ever slept with- neglecting to mention she was a call-girl. If it wasn't for oil money, your teams would consider winning the FA Cup once a decade and staying in the PL to be a resounding achievement. And you probably wouldn't even support them. If the title race this season was between Liverpool, Spurs and Arsenal I could at least respect the latter two for winning the lot, because they are actual football clubs who built good teams from the ground up. City and Chelsea are play-things for billionaire's. Whenever they win a major trophy, it feels like back in school when the Principal's son used to get another commendation award. The murmur goes up and you know exactly why it happened... Time and again these same FIFA experts also follow Golden State Warriors in the NBA, the Patriots in the NFL, the Swans in the AFL and the Roosters/ Storm/ Broncos in the NRL. Work that one out... It's like Seinfeld said in one of his episodes. You're really just barracking for the uniform. It must have been something back in the day when players for the various clubs came from the immediate area.
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Finally getting a run on at work and smashing it out and it's 4pm and you should be walking out the door instead.
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WGMG: The resistance to electric cars in Australia. Read the Telegraph today in the doctors surgery. (Maybe 4 stories on how rubbish they are and probably 5 letters to the editor and an editorial as well FFS.) According to the Murdoch rags and the squawkers like Morrison and the talk-back flogs it's all too hard and it will never work. In Norway last month electric cars made up 58% of new car sales. 58%! (In Australia last year it was 0.2%. For fucks sake.) http://smarthighways.net/electric-cars-outsold-gas-and-diesel-vehicles-in-norway/https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/21/18276541/norway-oslo-wireless-charging-electric-taxis-car-zero-emissions-inductionWas listening to a bloke on the radio and he was saying Australia is the most urbanised country in the world. More than 95% of trips are less than 100km in length. With new cars having a range of 450km what the hell is the problem? Morrison and others saying it would take a week to get from Sydney to Melbourne are deliberately spreading misinformation. "Oh they only go 200kms and then take 15 hours to recharge." Knobheads. Drive 400k's, stop, recharge for an hour, have lunch and finish your journey. There's a massive downturn in finances coming and the government knows it. 40 cents in every dollar is fuel excise and if millions of people change to electric cars it is dead set going to blow a humongous hole in revenue. Not to mention whole industries with anything to do with the internal combustion engine will virtually die overnight. When people talk about the 'left' and 'SJW's' and media bias in the media I'm willing to accept that there is some. But conversely you have to be Rusty-like to not see the dominant players in the media landscape (Murdoch) actively running interference for progress in this field. I'm not sure what the resistance is. Scomo is talking about people not being able to go 4WD on the weekends. No one is saying those cars should be banned. (I imagine most people will have 1 car for urban commuting and another for the weekends, carrying loads or towing etc.) They're only saying that these should be brought into line with best practice European cars. If Toyota can sell a Hilux in Germany that meets better pollution standards than here then why can't they sell them here? Where's the electricity going to come from? Solar rooftops and battery systems on houses of which literally millions have been installed in the last few years. If you spend $100 a week on petrol that's $5000 a year on fuel. Even if the batteries need replacing after 10 years that's $50 000 of savings that you've made in fuel alone. Easily enough to buy a new set when they run out. (And by then the batteries will be shitloads better.) And besides any of that if 90% of our cars went electric we could give Saudi Arabia and those other medievals shitholes the big fuck you! Yes a bit of a long-winded rambling rant. tldr; get on with getting electric cars on the road here. I want one.
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4WDs should be banned from urban environment. Why do people need them?
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+x4WDs should be banned from urban environment. Why do people need them? Yeah. Guilty. But I bought mine to go bush on the weekends, tow my boat and my catamaran. What do you do? Park them on the outskirts of town in a paddock for use just on the weekends?
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+x+x4WDs should be banned from urban environment. Why do people need them? Yeah. Guilty. But I bought mine to go bush on the weekends, tow my boat and my catamaran. What do you do? Park them on the outskirts of town in a paddock for use just on the weekends? People who can produce logbook record of a certain amount of genuine rural usage per annum, can be allowed to garage their 4WDs at their city homes. People who just use them to drive a couple of kids 200 metres to school will have them confiscated (wink)
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+x+x+x4WDs should be banned from urban environment. Why do people need them? Yeah. Guilty. But I bought mine to go bush on the weekends, tow my boat and my catamaran. What do you do? Park them on the outskirts of town in a paddock for use just on the weekends? People who can produce logbook record of a certain amount of genuine rural usage per annum, can be allowed to garage their 4WDs at their city homes. People who just use them to drive a couple of kids 200 metres to school will have them confiscated (wink) I her ya. Soccer 'moms' that can't even park the bloody things at the shopping centre. It's funny though. These days most 4WD's are dwarfed by the new For Rangers, Hiluxes, BT50's, Tritons etc.. They are massive. (They're getting ridiculous.) My car is about 4.5 metres long. A new Ford Ranger with a bullbar is about 5.5m. And they're even bloody higher than normal 4WDs. And weigh more. I measured my Challenger against my Commodore I was getting rid of because the wife said she wouldn't be able to park it. They were exactly the same size. (They do weigh more and are heavier and more likely to wipe someone out in a smaller car.)
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+x4WDs should be banned from urban environment. Why do people need them? Nothing more than an oversized vehicle for suburban moms and their meathead neanderthal tradie husbands to bully other road uses with. Plus you can't see past the damn things as it obscures your view ahead/to the side. Should require a special licence to drive one plus some sort of high carbon emission tax for each one sold.
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