I know you have repeated this a few times, but I must say I take this with a grain of Salt. I know my Club and surrounding Clubs have plenty of Capacity and have had so for some years.

We and the Clubs around us have approx 2,000 plus players and the facilities we have we can easily accomadte twice this amount.

Not only for the expected growth but for growth that has already occurred.



As a person on the committee of a Victorian Junior Soccer Club with a junior base of 28 teams SSF and Indoor component representing well over 800 players we fully support this move by the FFV.

The first and immediate reprecussion we have had from this decision is that our better players are staying put, as they don't have to chase elite football with a Super League Club.

Secondly there will no longer be the Under 11 and Under 12 over competitive competition to eventually qualify for Super League.

To explain this to the non-Victorians, our Club is in the East at Under 11 age group players are graded into Kangaroo (competitive) and Joey (Social). A ladder is kept and in the east there are usually 3 to 5 Kangaroo Leagues of 10 teams each, same with Joeys.

For the sake of the agruement we will assume 3 Kangaroo Leagues, the top 3 teams and the best fourth placed qualify for the next years 12A comp the Under 11 teams that finished in 4,5 &6 and the best 7th placed teams make up the 12B League and so on through the Joeys too giving 12A, 12B, 12C, 12D, etc. This also happens in the West North and South.

Once in U12A's the top five from the East and the South form the Under13 Super League South East the bottom 5 of the 12A's become the 13A EAST and the 13A SOUTH. From here on the winners of 13A EAST & SOUTH will qualify for 14SL S/E. The bottom two in U13 S/E SL are relegated.

Lately all this acheived was selecting the BIGGEST kids for you team to qualify them through to Super League without necessarily developing them as footballers.
As teams funnelled up through leagues they were able to select the better players from other Clubs while not required to develop players just stay in the Super League.

And the behaviour of the parents at the U11 and U12 levels was a sight to behold.

My Club is looking forward to the new structure were we can concentrate on developing players.



Edited by Arthur: 9/1/2010 01:23:17 PM

While not professing to know anything about the strength or otherwise of various areas in Melbourne I am wondering if this change is being done in preparation for an anticipated influx of players post World Cup. The FFV's 2007 Annual Report indicated that they had to turn in excess of 7,000 players away from the game because they neither had the infrastructure or club set up to cater for the immense growth. Hopefully they will get similar growth in the next 2 years.

The structure is still fucked up.

and his bowels too!

I'd fuck your structure up :x

New Announcement From FFV:

Question 1: Will there be a Victorian Champions League next year?



Yes, planning for next seasons Victorian Champions League is well under way.



Question 2: Will boys have to play with older people e.g. 15s with 16s.



There are no plans to change the boys age groups.



Question 3: Will Green Gully be able to have 2 teams playing the same league?



As with the previous structure we would prefer not to have two teams from the same club in the same league. We understand this will be quite difficult with the new structure so we are only allowing more than one team in an ‘A League’ in a few exceptional circumstances.



What is the age to be in a Senior team?



Clubs normally start excepting players from 15 years of age, FFV does not have any age restrictions for our Senior Men’s competitions.

I Kind of miss understood something so i emailed football fed vic. thoose are the key statements.

FFV just announced they are doing a gold medal night at Etihad Stadium. well fuck that theres no point of being rewarded in a competition that will no longer exisit.

Well i remember vsing ur team.

ayy mate I told in pm ;)
don't want lots of staplers :P
ffv get some brains!!

FFV dont know what they are doing

What age group are you? And what club do you play for?

yea there was a petitiongoing around which I signed as well


Wait what section am i?? I'm in the bulleen box hill monash one, probably the second strongest after the western one

ur first tier team is North East.
you've got 1 team from the East.

FFV obviously realise Eastern and Northern are the weakist teams

Make your complaints at info@footballfedvic.com.au

My mates are making there complaints. Make your complaints too.

I Shall send a message to footballfedvic to look at this thread, to be honest what the fuck are football federation victoria changing, the old structure was fine.

The FFV has lost its head. absoulutely lost its head.

WTF!!!! Champions league is cancelled!!!! :cry: no way!' what's happening??

This is screwed up
in the east the decent clubs are

boxhill
bulleen
monash
south melborune
berwick
oakleigh are alright

ok then the second tier
croydon
dandenong
Doncaster
that's about it

They definately fucked up this time, Champions League was only starting to become a success...
The only way to get out of this mess IMO, is to try out for the 18s (which arent effected as badly), or reserves which I am going to do...

Yes I Play for Green Gully. Next year im getting ready to do nothing because we are going to play shit teams in the west.
Theese are the clubs from the west that are decent:

* Green Gully - U14A & U14 Superleague, U15 Superleague, U15A
* Melbourne Knights - U14 Superleague, U15 Superleague
* Keilor Park - U14B, U14 Superleague, U15 Superleague, U15A
* Altona East - U15B, U15 Superleague
* Altona City - U14A & U14 Superleague
* Sunshine George Cross - U14A, U15A
* Gisborne - U14 Superleague - Relegated
* Brimbank Stallions - U14A & U15 Superleague
* Geelong Region Football Association - U14A, U15A

dont even think gisborne will be in there they are hopeless theyve got 1 player who just plays the game for them i cant put 10 clubs up there besides hopeless clubs like Werribee City and Melton.

Smecar, the Victorian Champions League will no longer exisit.

Football Federation Victoria fuck it up this time.

Good thing im out of the junior structure now.

FFV to place a cup of Harden the f**k up for every player upon registration...only kidding

Believe me the FFV have never had a clue about anything. If some dutch ring-in with a coaching degree that came from a box of kellogs and FFA accreditation walked up and said we should remove the league system and just let the kids play matches because it would develop players who are more interested in the skill aspect instead of playing for a result, believe me it would be introduced tomorrow.

Kid, get used to playing for that VCL club, give it a couple of years and seniors will be established and they will replace the VPL.

yeah i'm in champions league,

but yeah u have one team that you smash 10-0 but this league there's the potential for 3-4 teams getting demolished, that may be worse because i have lpayed in in a team that was getting smashed 4-0 eveyr week and it's demoralising, how can the ffv condone getting children to be demoralised week in week out:-k

are you currently in the VCL system? Thats the intention to move the elite players to that system. Power junior clubs e.g. Keilor Park, Green Gully will see their bases eroded as they cant guarantee parents that their kids would be playing S/L junior football.

you'll find that even within S/L structures there are clubs there that dont make the grade and get the pastings that they deserve. When I was coaching S/L there was one club that we pasted both times by +10. What could you do? Nothing...

yea i agree with both of your statements, but the point is i wanna play against the best players, and test myself against them.
no-one wants to play and win 6-0 that's just pointless and doesn't gain anythjing, it's good in a nice even league, while this league has the potential to be lopsided with 3-4 good teams 3-4 horrible teams and 3-4 average teams

but i guess wel'l cope, in a few years i'm sure it'll pay ooff

bud, when I was coaching kids we had to travel to Knox, Heatherton, Frankston, Gisbourne... if you really want to play you wouldnt care who you play against you just want to pull the boots on and take the mickey if youre good enough

Nothing wrong with Mooroolbark - lovely strips. ;)

In fairness to the FFV it's part of a long term strategy to cope with the increase in player numbers. It sucks for you guys now, but it'll probably pay off on the wider scale in 4-5 years.

just dilute all the talent, so we have to go away and play teams like moorolbark and stonnington and glen waverley, who truthfully don't deserve to be in the top league i'ms orry=;

it will just insulate the boys club of monkeys that currently control the junior structure at the FFV.

yeah the boys reamin the same, but that's what i am worried about, all the talent is diluted, i don't wanna go to play at horrible places like moorolbark, when i coudl be playing at south melbourne and richmond, it's horrendous#-o

they've totally screwed it up IMO

and i was gonna move but now they've done this i'm stuck trialling for 2 teams

Speaking from a scouting point of view - it'll make it a lot harder for us to see all of the best kids in the area, and the dilution of talent will also make spotting that talent less entertaining.



Based on the article I'd say that it's only the girls who will be sharing 13/14 and 15/16. The Boys will still be in yearly divisions.