well at least he is honest in his interviews. unfortunately, he is also admitting that we have no plan b. win, lose or draw, there will only ever be 1 striker up front.


What do you think about the FourFourTwo article Pim: Why I Axed Trio?
PIM Verbeek spoke this afternoon after announcing his 28 man squad he’ll take to South Africa tomorrow – a squad minus Jade North, Nick Carle and Scott McDonald.

Have your say.

What a fucking joke. Carle didnt even get the chance to prove himself. How can pim form a basis to axe him on that. What a fucking twat.

Obviously Holman's 1.5m tap in warranted him a spot despite fucking up all game with his stray passing and horrible touch just like every other game. I mean seriously, he clearly deserves it. Fucking dutch speaking cock sucker. Thats the only reason he is in the team. because he can suck up to him in his own language.

Scotty mac fantastic striker. Axed because of Pim's anti-football tactics.

well all i can say is you get what you pay for. And thats what we have bought. A terrible coach.

Australia bottom of the group with one point. Draw with Ghana. Simple as that. Although we are capable of so much more pims tactics has absolutely ruined the socceroos. And reduced them to scrappy goals and league 2 tactics. Aka long ball.

Good luck ruining morocco's youth system, i defo wont be upset when you leave.









Edited by seriously: 25/5/2010 04:22:31 PM

Edited by seriously: 25/5/2010 04:25:09 PM

Scotty mac should be able to adjust to any system as all top strikers can. totally agree you pim .

agreed with 'seriously'

when Pim moves on things will hopefully change with Nick Carle and Scott McDonald but so much for their WC dreams. Rewarding stupid players like Holman is a joke

can some of you stop whinging about carle we have enough midfield players, yes he has great skills but that is not enough and besides he may get his chance when the new coach comes in. i would rather be axed now than go to world cup and not get to play

So using that logic Josh Kennedy should play like Scott MacDonald and vice versa?

I just hope Verbeek knows what he is doing. Atleast this means Sydney FC is in the box seat to sign Carle =) Thanks Pim hope you booked an early flight home from south africa you wont be there very long.

I’m not a fan of those omissions. North I’m happy about, but I felt we needed McDonald and Carle as they offer different qualities from other players in their positions. We don’t have any other strikers that play the poaching role like McDonald and there’s not really anyone that has the flair/creativity like Carle. We needed them so that we had other options if Plan A wasn’t working.

Those two cuts have made me feel very, very worried about the WC for us. I'm with dontodd in thinking that Verbeek has no Plan B. At first I liked his stubbornness, but now it could be our downfall.


And 'seriously', are you serious about Holman last night?! He hardly turned the ball over at all! I can only recall one turnover from him, and it most certainly wasn't from a stray pass. His first three touches were centimetre-perfect first-time long passes out wide.
On top of that, he was the one that inspired Australia to play better as he was making some great off-the-ball runs that opened up gaps in their defence - which we just weren't doing in the first half.

I'm as big a Holman critic as anyone else, but last night he was one of the players who actually made a difference.

Ignoring the fact that he scored a "tap-in" goal, Holman had a fantastic game. When he first got on the pitch, he was the only player with any energy or enthusiasm. Apart from one stray pass (which happens to all players) he was giving intelligent balls and making positive attacking runs.

I don't care much for the 'adjust to system' argument.


He's a striker who can't score goals at international level. The WC is an international tournament. 'nuff said.

If Vidosic can manage it, why can't 442's favourite item of fappery after Carle?

What a fucking idiot, axeing quality players because he is too shit to be able to change and adapt tactics for differe teams and situations. It's very unprofessional and highlights that pim is not good enough. How can you openly admit to using only one system, you know why pim is leaving after the world cup? Because he will b internationally humiliated and he is smart enough to get out of the job before his shitness catches up with him, pim has scammed us we thought he was a decent coach, we were wrong he has our money and will go down as the worst national team coach Australia will ever have at a world cup. Fuck you pim, the sooner you're gone, the better it will be.

i think you should watch the game again. is it me or is the same guy posting pro-holman propaganda with different accounts. Seems to be strangely similar posting. Anyhow you can enjoy your 'Holman' when the WC comes around you Pim and Holman supporters will be sorry. Just you wait. I guarantee you we will be last or at the very best second last.

Edited by seriously: 25/5/2010 04:30:43 PM

marconi101 kennedy would adapt better than scotty mac no doubt

Fuck You PIM!!
We have only one striker who scores regularly in Europe. His name is Scott McDonald. He is easily in the best 11 players from Australia at the moment. The systen should suit the best 11 players, not some fucking boring Dutch fuckwit's idea of football. It is, as a previous poster said "anti-football" . You suck Pim, and we wont make it past the group stage cos you are so addicted to your horrible 4-2-3-1.

Who has improved as a player more in the last 2 years, HOLMAN or CARLE - it's simple

Honestly, Holman isn't even good enough to start for Sydney FC yet he gets to make the World Cup squad. What a joke Pim is.

mickyroo you said and quote (the system should suit the best 11 players ) and in the system that is being played scotty mac is not in the best 11

It doesn't matter who has improved more. Carle was 5 times better than Holman now he's 3 times better. Holman has improved more but Carle is still much better.

Scott McDonald is too one-dimensional and not mobile enough in my eyes. He has clearly struggled at international level and is too greater risk to take considering we need to escape a tough group. I like the squad thus far Pim.

seriously
What a fucking joke. Carle didnt even get the chance to prove himself. How can pim form a basis to axe him on that. What a fucking twat.

Obviously Holman's 1.5m tap in warranted him a spot despite fucking up all game with his stray passing and horrible touch just like every other game. I mean seriously, he clearly deserves it. Fucking dutch speaking cock sucker. Thats the only reason he is in the team. because he can suck up to him in his own language.

Scotty mac fantastic striker. Axed because of Pim's anti-football tactics.

well all i can say is you get what you pay for. And thats what we have bought. A terrible coach.

Australia bottom of the group with one point. Draw with Ghana. Simple as that. Although we are capable of so much more pims tactics has absolutely ruined the socceroos. And reduced them to scrappy goals and league 2 tactics. Aka long ball.

Good luck ruining morocco's youth system, i defo wont be upset when you leave.

x 100

I love some of these reactions. Doesn't get any better. :lol:

Hey, I'm still pessimistic about Holman being in the WC side because he has been so shit for us in other matches - but to say he was shit last night is just wrong. I'd even go so far as to say that Holman probably had amongst the least stray passes (if any) of any Aussie player last night. I'll admit that I subscribe to the anti-Holman brigade, but I can still appreciate when he plays well. You, it seems, blinker yourself from seeing his good work when it happens and put a disproportionate emphasis on his stuff ups.

He would've been good to take just in case we were a goal or 2 down with 15min to play. You throw him on and revert to a 4-4-2 system which brings out his best. Remember he has scored against AC Milan in Champions League football.

I can just imagine the German team meetings now:

Jogi - "So Hansi, who do we play first?"
Hansi - "Australia"
Jogi - "What? Austria?"
Hansi - "No Australia... you know, kangaroos and stuff"
Jogi - "Oh... I thought they only played rugby and GAYFL... well ok, who do they have? Let's start with the strikers"
Hansi - "Ok, let me see... umm... well, they have Brisbane Strikers"
Jogi - "Ok, Brisbane... and who else?"
Hansi - "Nobody else"
Jogi - "WHAT THE FUCK? HOW CAN THEY ONLY HAVE ONE STRIKER!"
Hansi - "Well they do have Harry Cool, but he's a winger and besides, he needs a groin transplant. Then there's Nikita..."
Jogi - "Nikita? That's a girls name."
Hansi - "Well we've never heard of him, so I'm assuming he's one of the player's girlfriends. There is one other, they call him Jesus"
Jogi - "So let me get this straight, these Austrian zealots have no strikers, so they've put all their faith in Jesus to win them the World Cup?"
Hansi - "It would appear so, unless Brisbane is one fucking good player"
Jogi - "Fantastic... Hansi, tell the players I've just booked another warm-up game. Our World Cup begins against Serbia!"

Seems like Pim is going to the WC to play for 3 draws #-o ](*,)

Lolllllllllllllll and sadly true.

+1

Edited by imnofreak: 25/5/2010 04:44:56 PM

I agree that North shouldn't be surprised not to be on the plane. McDonald and Carle I'm not so sure about. Carle should now sign with Sydney FC which, as a Sky Blues supporter, makes me happy. However, I think he deserved his chance.
McDonald seems to be the victim of a coach who doesn't believe he has many options in match plan. Guus Hiddink had more than one match plan and a variety of formations. This helped the Socceroos to get as far as they did in the last World Cup. Pim hasn't the flair of Guus and goes one way or no way.
Somebody was always going to miss out; fans will be disappointed for the players. It's a tough call when you're not in the top group. Holman? He's playing in a major league in Europe. He's getting match time. Whilst I understand why some people don't rate him I think he deserves his spot. He's a busy player and, in my opinion, he WOULD get a start at Sydney FC!!!

So we're down to 28 and by the sound of it Oar and Holland aren't in meaning 3 must still go. Who do you think will go???

Maybe
Garcia
Lowry
Jedinak

The lack of any sort of alternative system as a back up plan really defies belief... Not to mention laying your cards on the table for all to see for over two and half years.