Davstar
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Well considering i've been saying this for a little while, however there was never any proof that it could be a true. I think it be ok he isnt a bad coach i mean he struggled at west ham because he lost his captain and his team played like a bunch of donkeys trying to build a car out of straw. Edited by Davstar: 21/7/2010 10:49:32 PM
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Diegos Son
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Any more about this?
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Substance
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i dont think zola has enough international experience
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spathi
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No Zola please. Great player below par coach. Not what we need.
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Anonanimal
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scouse_roar wrote:Can he start three weeks ago? ... or four years ago?
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Anonanimal
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The Doctor wrote:Zelic to coach the Zelicroos Ha! Best post I've read for ages.
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Hank
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Meh... Wouldn't be fussed with him to be honest.
Whether we like it or not it will be a Dutch coach.
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RedEyeRob
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Zola for Adelaide United = YES
Zola for Socceroos = NO
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jmars
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Very poor choice, if it eventuates.
We need a manager at the top of his game for the next four years, not some potential also-ran with limited experience.
Keep an eye on Chile this World Cup. I'd like to see Bielsa's name on the short list.
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scouse_roar
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Can he start three weeks ago?
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The Doctor
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Zelic to coach the Zelicroos
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Edda
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No! My team finaly got rid of him. Although he would be better than Pim.
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mus-28
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spathi wrote:mus-28 wrote:spathi wrote:Im afraid that Zola is not the candidate we should be looking for. Yes he was a great player, yes the Hammers did play an attractive style of game, even if they did lose more than they won. But, he has limited experience as a NT coach an no experience in Asian football. I think you will find that our next NT manager will have a lot of Asian experience because thats what we need. Why does the coach need experience in Asia??? Pim had experience in Asia and look at how far our standard of play has dropped. If the candidate for the job is good enough then they should get the job, would we knock back Rijkaard because he doesn't have experience in Asia?? What we need is a coach that will get us playing positive football, not defensive negative football that relies on Schwarzer bailing us out continually. Funny how can criticise me for saying that Zola is not the right man for the job and then you put up Jorvan Viera and Neeskens for the job. :-$ :-$ :-$ In a perfect world I'd have Van Gaal coaching the Socceroo's, but if Zola was the best candidate I'd take him regardless of his Asian experience. I rate Neeskens as having all the right credentials of working with quality teams and coaches. Vieira would be a good candidate, to transform Iraq from nobody's to Asian Champions is a massive achievement. I am a realist, we're not gonna get Wengér or Van Gaal, so we have to do with what is available and Neeskens and Viera would potentially be available.
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spathi
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mus-28 wrote:spathi wrote:Im afraid that Zola is not the candidate we should be looking for. Yes he was a great player, yes the Hammers did play an attractive style of game, even if they did lose more than they won. But, he has limited experience as a NT coach an no experience in Asian football. I think you will find that our next NT manager will have a lot of Asian experience because thats what we need. Why does the coach need experience in Asia??? Pim had experience in Asia and look at how far our standard of play has dropped. If the candidate for the job is good enough then they should get the job, would we knock back Rijkaard because he doesn't have experience in Asia?? What we need is a coach that will get us playing positive football, not defensive negative football that relies on Schwarzer bailing us out continually. Funny how can criticise me for saying that Zola is not the right man for the job and then you put up Jorvan Viera and Neeskens for the job. :-$ :-$ :-$
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mus-28
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spathi wrote:Im afraid that Zola is not the candidate we should be looking for. Yes he was a great player, yes the Hammers did play an attractive style of game, even if they did lose more than they won. But, he has limited experience as a NT coach an no experience in Asian football. I think you will find that our next NT manager will have a lot of Asian experience because thats what we need. Why does the coach need experience in Asia??? Pim had experience in Asia and look at how far our standard of play has dropped. If the candidate for the job is good enough then they should get the job, would we knock back Rijkaard because he doesn't have experience in Asia?? What we need is a coach that will get us playing positive football, not defensive negative football that relies on Schwarzer bailing us out continually.
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pimpsta
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i would be happy with it
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bonosEdge
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Bring on Zola!
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spathi
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Im afraid that Zola is not the candidate we should be looking for. Yes he was a great player, yes the Hammers did play an attractive style of game, even if they did lose more than they won. But, he has limited experience as a NT coach an no experience in Asian football. I think you will find that our next NT manager will have a lot of Asian experience because thats what we need.
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avy1990
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What happened in the France game?
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Gooner4life_8 wrote:i tell you who i would love to see coach us... giovanni trappatoni
i was on the same plane as him last year on a flight from dublin to amsterdam just after the ireland 2-2 italy game. i was standing right behind him as we were taking our seats. he was taking ages to get his bags into the overhead lockers, i was thinking to myself, "move you old bastard!" i got impatient with him so i just rudely pushed past him. it wasn't until i sat down that my dad told me that it was trappatoni :lol:
Edited by gooner4life_8: 5/6/2010 09:44:19 PM :-k TBH, he would be a good manager IMO. He did a pretty good job with Ireland despite not qualifying for the World Cup. They had a tough group with Italy and then we all know what happened with the France game. His style of play looks decent but the question would be, is he eager to travel around all of Asia at the age of 71? Doubt it.
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GloryPerth
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He's still a young coach though, which can be a slight drawback, when it comes to international management, where older, more experienced coaches, like Verbeek (Yes) are quite naturally, tending to be referred. He's still learning his craft, so hence why some of you might say he has no Plan B - Perhaps he's yet to learn it? Lol I reckon the same thing of young Aurelio Vidmar - AU fans were quite annoyed at tactic at times, but maybe with more experience, he may become a more 'flexible/adaptable' coach.
But again, his lack of 'coaching experience' aside, he'd still make a great 'candidate' to be 'considered,' amongst the 'pool of candidates.' And going by the due diligence the FFA put into finding Fury's coach, I expect nothing less (expect more even) when it comes to selecting our next NT coach - Especially as the pool of candidates could be reasonably strong.
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Carlito
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yeh they did play decent football but i didnt save him ! like i said he is great when winning but when losing he doesnt have a plan b and goes defensive.
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:did a good job with the italian u21 did a so so job with west ham . he like pim lacks a plan b ie if winning he does good but when losing or losing momentum he doesnt know what to do Maybe, but one thing we can't deny is that West Ham played decent football whereas the Socceroos under Pim Verbeek...](*,)
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Vadar Red Star
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:lol: hed have a better idea than Pim :lol:
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GloryPerth
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Heck, why not? And if he can be amongst the candidates then that's great for us, at it can only lift the standard of the pool of candidates applying for us, so making the field of applicants more competitive, so the end choice even better. Only the best should do, in theory, but there's the following proviso, which may inevitably shorten that list considerably:
As with all options, ONLY if he's prepared to, like Verbeek, base himself over here, for a majority of his stint as our coach. None of this p/t bullsh*t like Hiddink's time and we certainly aren't interested in a coach who will split his time between our NT and some European club (Like Hiddink's time, with Russia aswell as us). It's not just the coaching stuff as to why we need our coach down here, it's intimacy with the A-League, and importantly, public relations - media etc... Pim's thoughts on the A-League etc... were highly valued and made great press, despite some of them, infamously, being not so positive. We rely on our NT coach to help market the game in our competitive marketplace and the prestige of our NT coaches in recent times (Arnie exception) draws alot of interest from the media, so hence the spotlight on their quotes. They're a star in themselves, a personality, media drawcard, aswell as the players - especially if, like Hiddink and Verbeek, they're good for a quote! Our media yearns for their experienced perspective, on our football, young league, development of coaches, football philosphy, football/Dutch technical revolution etc... We saw that with Pim and whoever succeeds him, will see the same.
Like it or not, football fans, as too the football media, learnt a HEAP, ALOT, from Pim, aswell as he learning a little from us. His frank assessments really hit the honest crux of some issues, especially about where the exciting new, but young, A-League stood, realistically. And even recently, his comments on the Kewell obsession/quality of Media discourse, was once again, on the mark. We're growing all the time, in our football culture and the quality, experienced European coaches who coach our NTs, aswell as A-League teams, are an important part of this maturing discourse, education through those who we are seeking to emulate (Especially the Dutch - Through Verbeek, Berger, Van't Schip etc...). A guy like Zola would certainly add to that informed discourse, aswell as great public image/interest, media interaction/drawcard, considerably, surely (Especially with his great experience in handing the English media all these years, as coach AND player).
Edited by GloryPerth: 6/6/2010 01:34:00 AM
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He did a great job with West Ham, would love him to do the same to us... Uh.
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Gooner4life_8
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i tell you who i would love to see coach us... giovanni trappatoni
i was on the same plane as him last year on a flight from dublin to amsterdam just after the ireland 2-2 italy game. i was standing right behind him as we were taking our seats. he was taking ages to get his bags into the overhead lockers, i was thinking to myself, "move you old bastard!" i got impatient with him so i just rudely pushed past him. it wasn't until i sat down that my dad told me that it was trappatoni :lol:
Edited by gooner4life_8: 5/6/2010 09:44:19 PM
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Carlito
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plus he aint dutch so that rules him out! maybe carlo ancelloti can get the gig he did play a lone striker at ac milan :p
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UnitedGal
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I think he would be a great choice but I see him doing a Pim & Guss and pxxxing off after one campaign
Id rather forsake profile for long term stability and sucesss myself
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Carlito
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did a good job with the italian u21 did a so so job with west ham . he like pim lacks a plan b ie if winning he does good but when losing or losing momentum he doesnt know what to do
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