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sydneycroatia58 wrote:Wear my IQ on my back wrote:What's all this pessimism? We gifted them a goal, Bresc and Kennedy missed point blank, we had twice as many shots, and much more possession, and 10-3 in corners. One gifted goal to them, one late in the game when we were naturally going forward too much. To repeat - nine times out of ten we would have won the game. Pretty convinient how you also forget to mention how they missed an open goal and had a goal disallowed that should have been given. 10 corners to 3. Domination of possession. As opposed to a missed open goal and a goal disallowed due to (According to you) an offside that wasn't there. You can either see the positives or the negatives. I prefer seeing the positives, as complaining about it will achieve nothing... only anger and frustration. Pim will be gone after the World Cup, he will not change his strategy at this point and complaining about it will do you no good now.
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Wear my IQ on my back wrote:What's all this pessimism? We gifted them a goal, Bresc and Kennedy missed point blank, we had twice as many shots, and much more possession, and 10-3 in corners. One gifted goal to them, one late in the game when we were naturally going forward too much. To repeat - nine times out of ten we would have won the game. Pretty convinient how you also forget to mention how they missed an open goal and had a goal disallowed that should have been given.
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Wear my IQ on my back
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What's all this pessimism? We gifted them a goal, Bresc and Kennedy missed point blank, we had twice as many shots, and much more possession, and 10-3 in corners. One gifted goal to them, one late in the game when we were naturally going forward too much. To repeat - nine times out of ten we would have won the game.
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Just heard that the boys found out about Jones' son a couple of hours before the game, perhaps it had something to do with the performance?
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Vadar Red Star
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my god we were shocking... Grella was a joke and Kennedy... positioned himself well but now we know why he was axed in Germany... Although we did push up well from time to time. However the lack off well strung passes resulted in very sloppy turn overs...
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krijoz wrote:Vaughn2111 wrote:krijoz wrote: Our team has some players that play in not so significant leagues in Europe and Asia. We should not get ahead of ourselves and if we fail in South Africa we still had a great success in getting to South Africa.
Have you ever thought about becoming a teacher as you are so good at picking up other mistakes. Perhaps you should work on setting up NAPLAN (National Assessment Program – Literacy and Numeracy) tests across the country IF only they had NAPLAN back when you were in school, you'd have been declared mentally retarded and expelled from the education system and we wouldn't have to read your drivel. [quote]Guys chill out. It was clear that Verbeek was trialling some different situational formations and this shouldn't be a reflection of the upcoming performance. Yeah, he went from his usual 4-2-3-1 to a completely different 4-2-3-1 to a revolutionary new 4-2-3-1 and then there was a little while where we dropped the midfield deeper and played 4-2-3-1. The only difference we saw in formation was how deep our midfield line played. Attacking, we looked better than we have. Defensively, we played like arse and would have struggled to keep a clean sheet against American Samoa. We can't seriously be happy with Moore at Center Back.
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Guys chill out. It was clear that Verbeek was trialling some different situational formations and this shouldn't be a reflection of the upcoming performance.
What I do think was interesting was the opportunity to play a friendly against a team which Australia could be potentially facing if they make the Round of 16. Makes me wonder if there wasn't a bit of gamesmanship by Pim in holding back a few of his set plays.
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Hey Krow-jizz
Only a knucklehead like you could endorse the fundamentally faulty and flawed Naplan system. Do you also believe the world is flat too?
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krijoz wrote:Vaughn2111 wrote:[quote=krijoz] Our team has some players that play in not so significant leagues in Europe and Asia. We should not get ahead of ourselves and if we fail in South Africa we still had a great success in getting to South Africa. Have you ever thought about becoming a teacher as you are so good at picking up other mistakes. Perhaps you should work on setting up NAPLAN (National Assessment Program – Literacy and Numeracy) tests across the country I was hoping to, but they started without me :p
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krijoz wrote: By the way [size=6]Adelaide is the best place in the world to live [/size]in Mr. Skinless
ANOTHER 26,300 people moved interstate in the past financial year, as South Australians continue to leave the state in droves.Not a bad place but a stretch to call it the best. :p Edited by Jdz: 6/6/2010 09:33:30 PM
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I think the loss was a blessing. I liked the way we held the ball, just not what we did with it. We held it a shit load more than the US . . and generally this is something we've not been so great at. It's a nice wake up call and probably food for thought in regards to defense and attack for Pim. Things will have to change for us to compete like we need next week. . Moore, Grella, Garcia, Kennedy . . not good enough for mine. That's 4 from 11 . . and we are limited in terms of who can step up. Interesting to see what happens but can't fckn wait for the WC.
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skinet wrote:Hey Krijoz
If your so confident about my teams not yours failings. Here's the deal douche.If Australia takes a point in the WC you agree to drink a bowl of that junkies puke that an Adelaide rat's coffin floats in. Hang on!! that won't work that's your staple diet!! How many teams do you have? Almost forgot, have you ever been told that you are quite humorous! By the way [size=6]Adelaide is the best place in the world to live [/size]in Mr. Skinless Edited by krijoz: 6/6/2010 07:36:30 PM
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skinet
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Hey Krijoz
If your so confident about my teams not yours failings. Here's the deal douche.If Australia takes a point in the WC you agree to drink a bowl of that junkies puke that an Adelaide rat's coffin floats in. Hang on!! that won't work that's your staple diet!!
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I am the first to admit I know little about soccer ( football ) so having got that out of the way I will go on.
Having been to Johannesburg a few years ago, I realise the air there is different to what we have in most places in Australia. Now, I am no scientist but because my daughter is employed by Qantas as an International Flight Attendant I have had many opportunities to talk to some Qantas pilots. When we were there and about to fly home the plane was due to leave about five pm or so. But the atmospheric conditions were not right and he had two choices, unload some of the cargo and if need be some of the passengers or wait a few hours when the air was thinner so that the aircraft could lift off the ground safely.
Now, what that has to do with football I know nought except to say for the locals back in OZ this talk about the flight of the ball may or may not have some perculiar air flight patterns.
Now, someone posted that the boffins in the FFA have as traing at altitude at Johannesburg while our first game is at sea level in Durban against Germany. Now, I have complete faith in our Australian medical and scientific specialists, infact in many fields they lead the world. The FFA have heavilly followed their advise, the team, apart from the South Africans were the first to arrive.
So, where is this all heading. Trying to get some positives out of it I suggest the following may or may not be the plan. In Athletics, especially endurance ones, it has been proved that if you train at altitude and then comee down to sea level your endurance capacity is improved.
So maybe, while Pim has been flogging the guys at altitude, building up their aerobic fitness to a higher level then you could get at sea level he is prepared to take the hiding from Germany, because the benefit will not have kicked in by that game but hopefully be available for the following games.
The problem is, will that be enough for the Craig Moores of the team.
I am looking for a few positives and am not sure that three weeks altitude training in South Africa gives the same benefit as training for three months in the Andes.
Interesting times ahead.
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Didn't deserve to lose 3-1, but we were lucky they didn't score more. And we should've taken the chances that came our way. Grella and Moore are absolutely rubbish.
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Vaughn2111 wrote:[quote=krijoz] Our team has some players that play in not so significant leagues in Europe and Asia. We should not get ahead of ourselves and if we fail in South Africa we still had a great success in getting to South Africa. Have you ever thought about becoming a teacher as you are so good at picking up other mistakes. Perhaps you should work on setting up NAPLAN (National Assessment Program – Literacy and Numeracy) tests across the country
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auskiwi wrote:krijoz wrote:Lets be realistic here guys, Australia is not good enough to make any serious damage in their group. Australia will be lucky to win any point. Our team has some players that play in not so significant leagues in Europe and Asia. We should not get ahead of ourselves and if we fail in South Africa we still had a great success in getting to South Africa.
Well said. Not all but most aussies tend to over rate the socceroos. Aussie is the must win game for the others in their group. It will be great for them to get a point and a shock to qualify. I agree with you view mate as you are another independent observer!!
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Vaughn2111 wrote:krijoz wrote: Our team has some players that play in not so significant leagues in Europe and Asia. We should not get ahead of ourselves and if we fail in South Africa we still had a great success in getting to South Africa.
krijoz wrote: I am not Australian
Evidently I have been living in Australia for 12 years and have to say we as I love this country and I wish Australia all the best at the World cup in SA and I will certainly be cheering them on, BUT just lets be realistic about our chances in SA. We should not live in denial that this squad it weaker and slower than one we had 4 years ago in Germany
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Besides Grella's glaring mistake. What we witnessed yesterday was Pim's plan B; For the whole Socceroos to push up leaving a truck load of space at the back and try to take our opportunities. However, we seriously need Kewell, Cahill or Chippers to finish these chances off because Josh as good as he can be, he is a impact player not a starter. I am pretty sure we are going to see Aus play the same way we did against the Dutch and Denmark. Sit deep, compact and have them try to break us down. The thing is if they do then we have to chase the game. That is when it can get hairy and Germans can put 3 past us or we can equal. It is a gamble. I think the first 10 minutes can be telling and we need players to be switched on.
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krijoz wrote: Our team has some players that play in not so significant leagues in Europe and Asia. We should not get ahead of ourselves and if we fail in South Africa we still had a great success in getting to South Africa.
krijoz wrote: I am not Australian
Evidently
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krijoz wrote:Lets be realistic here guys, Australia is not good enough to make any serious damage in their group. Australia will be lucky to win any point. Our team has some players that play in not so significant leagues in Europe and Asia. We should not get ahead of ourselves and if we fail in South Africa we still had a great success in getting to South Africa.
Well said. Not all but most aussies tend to over rate the socceroos. Aussie is the must win game for the others in their group. It will be great for them to get a point and a shock to qualify.
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skinet wrote:Krijoz Only an imbecile like you from a pissant town could post such an ignorant, ill informed and un-intellectual post. You reinforce all the stereotypes about a pissant town with your lack of analysis and small town negativity. Yes your avatar says it all -You are right the joke really is on you!! Hey dickhead I am not Australian and my observations are from independent point of view and Australia is simply not good enough to make it past a group stage.
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Bryan wrote:Valeri was great but I do wonder would he have finished off strongly had he started... does he have the fitness to finish the whole game or is he better used like kennedy was in 2006.. hopefully our fitness levels are indeed up after these weeks in SA. Its why I'd have Jedinak there instead. And Wilky is wasted at right back, should be a straight swap with Culina. Quote: so has anyone watched any of germany last friendly games? I know i haven't. did they look to tire near the end? If thats the case, watch for a very defensive socceroos team in the first half and using our fitness to garner a goal if we can in the 2nd with kewell coming on in the 2nd half if everything goes to plan (therefore not chasing a goal after a few mins of play). otherwise im sure we'll be happy with a draw.
German fitness or lack of won't be a factor. Verbeek's aim will be draw, as it should be.
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blackcattillidie wrote:the funny thing is. pim said macca didnt suit the formation yet he went 442 in the second half. kewell wont be fit so kennedy n macca would almost be a perfect front two with cahill lurking around. we miss you scotty mac Thing is Verbeek's qualifying plan was draw away, win at home. The 4231 is the right tactic to get the draw away. But he never deviated from it even at home, even when we played meaningless matches to China and Japan. So we have no idea what to do when we have to chase a game. If he had played a plan B formation with two strikers he may have seen the value of Mac. One week outside your first WC match isn't the time to try a new attacking formation when your best second-striker is half the world away.
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Valeri was great but I do wonder would he have finished off strongly had he started... does he have the fitness to finish the whole game or is he better used like kennedy was in 2006.. hopefully our fitness levels are indeed up after these weeks in SA.
so has anyone watched any of germany last friendly games? I know i haven't. did they look to tire near the end? If thats the case, watch for a very defensive socceroos team in the first half and using our fitness to garner a goal if we can in the 2nd with kewell coming on in the 2nd half if everything goes to plan (therefore not chasing a goal after a few mins of play). otherwise im sure we'll be happy with a draw.
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Get over Macca guys, he's not coming back.
Edited by Jets_Fan: 6/6/2010 03:01:46 PM
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Would have liked to have seen Holman come on, assuming he'd show the same energy/intensity that he brought on against Denmark.
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macca has had his chances !! hasnt scored so he was left out but heres hoping pim plays ruka off jesus if he plays a fft or kewell with ruka
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the funny thing is. pim said macca didnt suit the formation yet he went 442 in the second half. kewell wont be fit so kennedy n macca would almost be a perfect front two with cahill lurking around. we miss you scotty mac
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Krijoz Only an imbecile like you from a pissant town could post such an ignorant, ill informed and un-intellectual post. You reinforce all the stereotypes about a pissant town with your lack of analysis and small town negativity. Yes your avatar says it all -You are right the joke really is on you!!
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