I think that The Australian, like many others, are having trouble differentiating not beating Germany from being a lay-down Sally.

wow, Yankos got into the papers :D
Probs still THE contact for the rovers

Fozzie's rant on SBS tonight was epic, Craig Johnston had to calm him down.

Craig Johnston seemed blown away by it:lol:

Is there somewhere I can see that because I missed it?

Craig was always a bit of a firey bloke. Having to calm foster down was pretty amusing. But then he was never particularly passionate about the socceroos :lol:

The Australian was better about it than most papers.

You need to remember that we were never going to beat the Germans and The Australian recognises this. The other papers have it in their heads that we've got a great side here that's as competative on the international stage as some of our other national teams like the Cricket or Rugby teams. They also forget JUST how good Germany are.

It's weird, ironic or whatever, that during and now after the match, there has been a kind of distorted but distinct, lack of respect for the German side, being shown in some of the views.

During the match our tactical approach was such that in a way we did not afford the talented young German side enough respect by being more organised, tight and simply 'up for the fight.' We were lost. But anyway, post then, a number have ofcourse come out and like prior to the German match, they were expecting the world. But reality is - a 0-1 loss to Germany would've been 'ok,' heck even a 0-2 loss to THIS German side would've been ok, IF we had performed well. Any real football fans, Socceroo fans, would have known it was very unlikely we would've drawn with that side, let alone beaten them - to expect otherwise is just deluded, ignorance etc...

As has been suggested, what we fans are crying foul over is the performance, which no surprise led to the dismal result, including that red card. And going by Bosnich's remarks over pre-match comments, it seems going by Neill's press conference comments, we were losers before we had even stepped onto the field.

BTW You know I was thinking of the 05 Confederations Cup when Farina was in charge, where we faced Klinnsman's Germany first up and lost 3-4 - With Aloisi scoring two, Skoko one goal. But then I realise that is unfair as this German side is DEFINITELY better than that one and well our side just doesn't have the level of experience, let alone capabilities, that Socceroos team had. BTW I know Confed's Cup = no World Cup, though even then, despite scoring alot of goals, we STILL finished bottom of the group and it WAS that tournament which ironically saw Farina 'finally' depart the NT job, making way for the arrival of Hiddink later that year ofcourse. But anyway, it was the most recent time we had faced Germany and a few of those players, Podolski, Schweinsteiger, Mertesacker and Friedrich all featured in that game - Ballack too even. Though I suppose, crucially, no Lahm, Ozil or even Klose.

We need to believe again, no fear, just stick it to the Ghanaians and Serbs, the old fashioned Aussie way, even if that includes heaps of long balls (likely to Kennedy lol) and very direct football that even the Kiwis may double take at lol. Last ditch, hack the legs off kind of stuff, re-inforcing pre-conceptions, reputation about our 'physical play' lols. J/ks, but then again... Surely it's not that desperate?

Edit: lol Just watched the full SBS 'Socceroos panel chat' and Craig Johnston just said that! lol But I suppose Les and co are right, such exteme may not be soo necessary, we CAN play football, just need to play how we know, which doesn't necessarily need to be soo route one, though with Kennedy in there, it kind of will be anyway (As they said)!

Edited by GloryPerth: 16/6/2010 03:47:07 AM

Totally agree. where did you watch the chat by the way? online hopefully?

looking forward to a revved up australian team against ghana :)

What bothers me about Pim right now is that he seems to be standing between the players and the public.

I mean, the players are supporting him, and e.g. Chippers came out and said "Don't blame Pim, blame us." It was the same story with all the "pragmatic" stuff through qualifying.

But that creates a situation where the players are potentially feeling alienated from the fans as well.

A bit of a worry.

Does anyone have a link to Fozz's rant about Pim? I wanna see it :)

Its not the loss that upset everyone. Its the manner in which we lost. Completly devoid of "aussie spirit" and pride in the shirt.

That was my point - it's certainly why I'm upset.

Unfortunately, the great unwashed don't necessarily see it the same way.

http://player.sbs.com.au/twgwc#/twgwc/features/experts/playlist/Socceroos-panel-chat-pt-1/

Link to the interview
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/video/267367/Socceroos-panel-chat-pt-1/

All I have to say is
What we need to do now is get focused and stop pointing fingers, YOUR A PROBLEM (pointing at Pim) YOUR A REAL REAL PROBLEM!