NSWPL Round 17


NSWPL Round 17

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Some massive massive results in the title race

Blacktown 2-3 South Coast

APIA 1-0 Sutherland

Bankstown 1-0 Bonnyrigg \:d/ \:d/

Sydney United 2-0 Marconi\:d/ \:d/ \:d/ \:d/ Sydney United win the Captiol Hill Cup 5-0 on aggregate.

Rockdale 1-1 Sydney Olympic

So Sutherland losing has opened up a gap of 6 points between them and 3rd but still 5 points to 5th place.

Only 4 points seperating 1st-4th with 5 rounds left it's gonna be tight.

Sydney United finally take advantage of the other front runners losing to be the only team in the top 5 to record a win and move into second just 3 points behind Bonnyrigg.

Table:

Bonnyrigg 35
Syd Utd 32
Marconi 32
Blacktown 31
Sutherland 26
Bansktown 21
Rockdale 21
APIA 21
Sth Coast 16
Syd Olymp 15
Manly Utd 12
West Syd 11

It's worth mentioning that Manly in 10th place still have 3 games in hand on everyone else.

Next weeks fixtures

Bonnyrigg vs Blacktown (massive game)
Sutherland vs Sydney United (Another massive game)
Marconi vs Bankstown
Sydney Olympic vs APIA
West Sydney vs Rockdale
South Coast vs Sydney Olympic




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Blacktown and BWE chocked hard.
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I'm currently putting a goalscorers list together. NSWPL don't provide one. Iv'e had to go through round v round and tally it all up :evil:

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Minimalistix wrote:
Blacktown and BWE chocked hard.


Bonnyrigg lost 2-1 and where robbed as they had a goal disallowed in the last minute of the game which would have been 2-2 but squandered so many opportunities on goal...
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cgorac wrote:
Minimalistix wrote:
Blacktown and BWE chocked hard.


Bonnyrigg lost 2-1 and where robbed as they had a goal disallowed in the last minute of the game which would have been 2-2 but squandered so many opportunities on goal...


You've just priced Minis point point. Squandering opportunities on goal would count as choking.
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Heineken wrote:
I'm currently putting a goalscorers list together. NSWPL don't provide one. Iv'e had to go through round v round and tally it all up :evil:


my tip is Elsid would be up there, even though he miss like 5 weeks, he was red hot at the start of the season.

good to see united take advantage of the other slip ups. should be an interesting finish to the end of the season.:cool:

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19-SU-58 wrote:
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I'm currently putting a goalscorers list together. NSWPL don't provide one. Iv'e had to go through round v round and tally it all up :evil:


my tip is Elsid would be up there, even though he miss like 5 weeks, he was red hot at the start of the season.

good to see united take advantage of the other slip ups. should be an interesting finish to the end of the season.:cool:


It's taken me nearly 6 hours to make the list, and i think i may have made a couple of mistakes, but i cbf going through them now. I'm updating the 2010 NSW Premier League page with them as i speak. But the top 5. are

14 Goals:
Tolgay Ozbey (Blacktown)

11 Goals:
Elsid Barkhosir (S.United)
Brad Boardman (Bonnyrigg)

9 Goals:
Robbie Milevski (Bankstown)

8 Goals:
Ante Deur (Blacktown)


7 Goals:
Luka Glavas (Sydney United)
Mark Picciolini (South Coast)
Blake Powell (Sutherland)
Daniel Severino (Bonnyrigg)



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Good to see Elsid up there, looks like his blistering start to the season helped.

Good to see Glavas up there as well.
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Righto, the scores are up on the Wikipedia page. Fuck that took a while. :lol:. I'll update the ladder while im at it, hasn't been done since round 12

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_NSW_Premier_League_season#Goalscorers

Edited by heineken: 21/6/2010 04:01:44 PM

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Also last night the re-scheduled match between Manly United & APIA Leichhardt was played at Cromer.

APIA Won 2-0 with penalties in either half from Rob Younis.

Not Manly's season.

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How is the club championship going? Who is 1st in Super League?
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How is the club championship going? Who is 1st in Super League?

parramatta eagles are comming 1st in the super league. heres the table http://www.sportingpulse.com/comp_info.cgi?c=1-4720-0-114756-0&pool=1&round=0&a=LADDER JUST MAKE SURE YOU CLICK ON THE LATEST ROUND. i think its round 14
apparently a little birdy told me that they will be promoted next season. but whether thats true or not i dont know. but they def do deserve to be

Edited by mltezr: 23/6/2010 04:48:53 PM
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mltezr wrote:
buddha69 wrote:
How is the club championship going? Who is 1st in Super League?

parramatta eagles are comming 1st in the super league. heres the table http://www.sportingpulse.com/comp_info.cgi?c=1-4720-0-114756-0&pool=1&round=0&a=LADDER JUST MAKE SURE YOU CLICK ON THE LATEST ROUND. i think its round 14
apparently a little birdy told me that they will be promoted next season. but whether thats true or not i dont know. but they def do deserve to be

Edited by mltezr: 23/6/2010 04:48:53 PM


Whats the deal on promotion relegation. I know it's decided at the end of the day by Football NSW depending on finances, and whether their home ground is half decent, however will it be just 1 team going up/down or 2. Personally from what iv'e read, Granville deserve to go up to. I say relegate West Sydney Berries and manly United or Sydney Olympic.

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Why would Olympic be relegated? It goes by Club Championship, which means West Berries would be.

Also, all of Olympic teams from u13's to the reserve grade are in the top 5, it is only the first grade that is shit, and even so, they're not even bottom from the table. I don't understand what would make you think Olympic deserves to be relegated if they play out of a top field, first grade are not last, are not last in Club Championship, and is one of a very few Clubs to get good crowds
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relegation only takes into account 18s to first grade
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Heineken wrote:

Whats the deal on promotion relegation. I know it's decided at the end of the day by Football NSW depending on finances, and whether their home ground is half decent, however will it be just 1 team going up/down or 2. Personally from what iv'e read, Granville deserve to go up to. I say relegate West Sydney Berries and manly United or Sydney Olympic.


I would be very, very surprised if Manly get relegated this season regardless of their position on the table... They have the junior base, very well organised finances, top facilities (soon to be a synthetic pitch) and whatever else those clowns at FNSW deem to be the criteria of playing in this league...


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Why would Olympic be relegated? It goes by Club Championship, which means West Berries would be.

Also, all of Olympic teams from u13's to the reserve grade are in the top 5, it is only the first grade that is shit, and even so, they're not even bottom from the table. I don't understand what would make you think Olympic deserves to be relegated if they play out of a top field, first grade are not last, are not last in Club Championship, and is one of a very few Clubs to get good crowds


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relegation only takes into account 18s to first grade


Wrong and wrong... It takes into account where the 1st team finish. THEN they will look at the variable criteria.
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Hank wrote:
Heineken wrote:

Whats the deal on promotion relegation. I know it's decided at the end of the day by Football NSW depending on finances, and whether their home ground is half decent, however will it be just 1 team going up/down or 2. Personally from what iv'e read, Granville deserve to go up to. I say relegate West Sydney Berries and manly United or Sydney Olympic.


I would be very, very surprised if Manly get relegated this season regardless of their position on the table... They have the junior base, very well organised finances, top facilities (soon to be a synthetic pitch) and whatever else those clowns at FNSW deem to be the criteria of playing in this league...


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Why would Olympic be relegated? It goes by Club Championship, which means West Berries would be.

Also, all of Olympic teams from u13's to the reserve grade are in the top 5, it is only the first grade that is shit, and even so, they're not even bottom from the table. I don't understand what would make you think Olympic deserves to be relegated if they play out of a top field, first grade are not last, are not last in Club Championship, and is one of a very few Clubs to get good crowds


sasha wrote:
relegation only takes into account 18s to first grade


Wrong and wrong... It takes into account where the 1st team finish. THEN they will look at the variable criteria.


if you tick all the boxes its 18s to first grade
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So you're saying relegation is based on a combination of results of the 18's, 20's and 1st grade?
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Yes :) On the fnsw website, you can view the Club Championship, and West Berries are almost certain to be relegated.
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Minimalistix wrote:
Yes :) On the fnsw website, you can view the Club Championship, and West Berries are almost certain to be relegated.


Mate, if their 1st team finish outside the relegation zone AND they come last in the Club Championship they will still be in the NSWPL next year...
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Are you sure?
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Minimalistix wrote:
Are you sure?


Yep, 100%. I played in the league for years...
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Hank wrote:
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Are you sure?


Yep, 100%. I played in the league for years...


mate ,talking to an ex director of nsw soccer its 18s to firsts, last in championchip means relegation as long as all the other teams are financial and grounds are up to scratch
also a president of one of the premier league confirmed it

Edited by sasha: 25/6/2010 11:42:46 AM
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sasha wrote:
Hank wrote:
Minimalistix wrote:
Are you sure?


Yep, 100%. I played in the league for years...


mate ,talking to an ex director of nsw soccer its 18s to firsts, last in championchip means relegation as long as all the other teams are financial and grounds are up to scratch
also a president of one of the premier league confirmed it

Edited by sasha: 25/6/2010 11:42:46 AM


So you're telling me if (obviously hypothetically) Sydney United win the league and Grand Final, but somehow 18/20's and the Youth league bomb out and they finish last in the Club Championship then they will be relegated?
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Hank wrote:
sasha wrote:
Hank wrote:
Minimalistix wrote:
Are you sure?


Yep, 100%. I played in the league for years...


mate ,talking to an ex director of nsw soccer its 18s to firsts, last in championchip means relegation as long as all the other teams are financial and grounds are up to scratch
also a president of one of the premier league confirmed it

Edited by sasha: 25/6/2010 11:42:46 AM


So you're telling me if (obviously hypothetically) Sydney United win the league and Grand Final, but somehow 18/20's and the Youth league bomb out and they finish last in the Club Championship then they will be relegated?


no

the way the points system is if they win 1st grade they wont be relegated
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sasha wrote:
Hank wrote:
sasha wrote:
Hank wrote:
Minimalistix wrote:
Are you sure?


Yep, 100%. I played in the league for years...


mate ,talking to an ex director of nsw soccer its 18s to firsts, last in championchip means relegation as long as all the other teams are financial and grounds are up to scratch
also a president of one of the premier league confirmed it

Edited by sasha: 25/6/2010 11:42:46 AM


So you're telling me if (obviously hypothetically) Sydney United win the league and Grand Final, but somehow 18/20's and the Youth league bomb out and they finish last in the Club Championship then they will be relegated?


no

the way the points system is if they win 1st grade they wont be relegated


:d Thats exactly what I was saying from the start!
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sasha wrote:
Hank wrote:
Minimalistix wrote:
Are you sure?


Yep, 100%. I played in the league for years...


mate ,talking to an ex director of nsw soccer its 18s to firsts, last in championchip means relegation as long as all the other teams are financial and grounds are up to scratch
also a president of one of the premier league confirmed it

Edited by sasha: 25/6/2010 11:42:46 AM


Thought so.

+ First Grade win gets 5 points
3 for reserves and 1 for 18's for the win.

So if a team won in first grade they would accumalate more then enough points to survive the club championship.
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Minimalistix wrote:
sasha wrote:
Hank wrote:
Minimalistix wrote:
Are you sure?


Yep, 100%. I played in the league for years...


mate ,talking to an ex director of nsw soccer its 18s to firsts, last in championchip means relegation as long as all the other teams are financial and grounds are up to scratch
also a president of one of the premier league confirmed it

Edited by sasha: 25/6/2010 11:42:46 AM


Thought so.

+ First Grade win gets 5 points
3 for reserves and 1 for 18's for the win.

So if a team won in first grade they would accumalate more then enough points to survive the club championship.


exactly
thank god for that
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Righto i'm confused.

Just don't worry about the politics.

Who is coming first in the relegation battle (whose more likely)
Whose 2nd
3rd?

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West Sydney are basically uncatchable in the relebgation spot, so they will be relegated most likely.
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Heineken wrote:

Who is coming first in the relegation battle (whose more likely)
Whose 2nd
3rd?


I'd say West Sydney Berries are favourites to finish bottom and then any one of the following in no particular order would be concerned; South Coast Wolves, Sydney Olympic and Manly United FC...   

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Minimalistix wrote:
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Hank wrote:
Minimalistix wrote:
Are you sure?


Yep, 100%. I played in the league for years...


mate ,talking to an ex director of nsw soccer its 18s to firsts, last in championchip means relegation as long as all the other teams are financial and grounds are up to scratch
also a president of one of the premier league confirmed it

Edited by sasha: 25/6/2010 11:42:46 AM


Thought so.

+ First Grade win gets 5 points
3 for reserves and 1 for 18's for the win.

So if a team won in first grade they would accumalate more then enough points to survive the club championship.


Mate, just re-reading this...

Hypothetical (big hypothetical!):
3 clubs...
A: 1st grade = last, 20's = top 3, 18's = top 3. Not in Club Championship relegation zone.
B: 1st grade = 2nd bottom, 20's = top 3, 18's = top 3. Not in Club Championship relegation zone.
C: 1st grade = 3/4 from bottom, 20's = mid table or below , 18's = mid table or below. In relegation zone.

Say for example team C is bottom of the Club Championship, you're saying they'll be relegated instead the team who finished bottom of 1st grade, because they're last in the Club Championship?

:d :-s




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Also, lets remember, FNSW change there mind every year and can come up with bs excuses to relegate a club, or keep a club up.

West Berries v Olympic on Sunday, big and important game for both Clubs.
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sydneycroatia58 - 15 Years Ago
                     Blacktown and BWE chocked hard.
Minimalistix - 15 Years Ago
Heineken - 15 Years Ago
                     Minimalistix wrote: Blacktown and BWE chocked hard. Bonnyrigg...
cgorac - 15 Years Ago
                     cgorac wrote: Minimalistix wrote: Blacktown and BWE chocked...
sydneycroatia58 - 15 Years Ago
19-SU-58 - 15 Years Ago
                     19-SU-58 wrote: Heineken wrote: I'm currently putting a...
Heineken - 15 Years Ago
sydneycroatia58 - 15 Years Ago
Heineken - 15 Years Ago
Heineken - 15 Years Ago
                     How is the club championship going? Who is 1st in Super League?
buddha69 - 15 Years Ago
mltezr - 15 Years Ago
                     mltezr wrote: buddha69 wrote: How is the club championship...
Heineken - 15 Years Ago
Minimalistix - 15 Years Ago
                     relegation only takes into account 18s to first grade
sasha - 15 Years Ago
Hank - 15 Years Ago
                     Hank wrote: Heineken wrote: Whats the deal on promotion...
sasha - 15 Years Ago
Hank - 15 Years Ago
Minimalistix - 15 Years Ago
Hank - 15 Years Ago
                     Are you sure?
Minimalistix - 15 Years Ago
                     Minimalistix wrote: Are you sure? Yep, 100%. I played in the...
Hank - 15 Years Ago
                     Hank wrote: Minimalistix wrote: Are you sure? Yep, 100%. I...
sasha - 15 Years Ago
                     sasha wrote: Hank wrote: Minimalistix wrote: Are you sure?...
Hank - 15 Years Ago
                     Hank wrote: sasha wrote: Hank wrote: Minimalistix wrote:...
sasha - 15 Years Ago
                     sasha wrote: Hank wrote: sasha wrote: Hank wrote:...
Hank - 15 Years Ago
                     sasha wrote: Hank wrote: Minimalistix wrote: Are you sure?...
Minimalistix - 15 Years Ago
                     Minimalistix wrote: sasha wrote: Hank wrote: Minimalistix...
sasha - 15 Years Ago
Heineken - 15 Years Ago
sydneycroatia58 - 15 Years Ago
                     Heineken wrote: Who is coming first in the relegation battle...
Hank - 15 Years Ago
                     Minimalistix wrote: sasha wrote: Hank wrote: Minimalistix...
Hank - 15 Years Ago
Minimalistix - 15 Years Ago


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