A winning mentality might be a start.

Craig Foster Mark II. I think that the Kiwi's are turning into people they dread turning into the most...they are talking like Australians now.

This dribble abov has been spitted out here in Aus on numerous occasions over the years, now the Kiwi's are talking the same way.

New Zealand - now (almost) Australia's seventh state.

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http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/3953618/How-much-did-Herbert-do-for-All-Whites

How much did Herbert do for All Whites?
By TONY SMITH - The Press
Last updated 05:00 24/07/2010

OPINION: The New Zealand Football hierarchy needs to hold a searching and thorough review of the entire World Cup campaign before making any hasty decisions on the future direction of the All Whites.

Coach Ricki Herbert has committed himself to staying in New Zealand where he has an extended contract with the Wellington Phoenix. He is also understandably keen to continue at the All Whites' helm.

Herbert, who has a "gentleman's agreement" with NZF chairman Frank van Hattum, is clearly the red-hot favourite to extend his six-year All Whites' tenure. But there should be no haste in reappointing him.

NZF first should sit down and conduct a wide-ranging debrief. Herbert should be congratulated on the team's achievement at becoming the only undefeated team at the 2010 World Cup finals.

But NZF must be absolutely convinced he is the best person to take the All Whites forward to Brazil 2014.

Some frank questions must be posed.

Was Herbert the chief architect of the All Whites' success? Or were captain Ryan Nelsen and senior pro Simon Elliott the main driving forces? Would the team have done as well without Nelsen's leadership, on and off the pitch?

Nelsen, Elliott and other senior All Whites, such as Tim Brown and Ivan Vicelich, should be involved in any debrief. Ed - That's dangerous

The NZF board should seriously analyse whether the All Whites over-achieved in attaining three draws. Or did they blow a rare opportunity to reach the second stage through overly conservative tactics against Paraguay in their final game?

Why were the All Whites seemingly content to sit on their scoreless draw against the South Americans and not push more players forward to press for a late winner?

The All Whites brought on Chris Wood in a straight swap with Rory Fallon up front. Herbert later chose to replace striker Chris Killen with young forward Jeremy Brockie. Yet, instead of being urged to push forward, Brockie seemed to slip into a more defensive-minded role. Was he instructed to do so from the bench?

Herbert might say that he couldn't afford to play his final card (a third sub) because an ill Nelsen might not have lasted the game. But there was no way, as ill as he was, Nelsen would ever have left the pitch.

Why didn't Herbert go for broke and inject another attacking player in the form of Michael McGlinchey or Aaron Clapham? Especially as McGlinchey had proved himself as an impact player in previous internationals.

Was Nelsen in charge in South Africa? I was there, but no outsider can ever really tell. He certainly had a major influence and was decisive in everything he did. When the All Whites were dithering in Daveyton over whether to train in the smoky air, Nelsen came out to assess the situation and suddenly practice was on. He also brought on board Blackburn Rovers official Matt Hockin to bolster the backroom staff. hmmmmm
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Some in the squad would probably attest that Nelsen was captain, coach and manager all rolled into one.

Or was it simply smart coaching on Herbert's part to bow to the experience of a man who captains his club in England's premier league?

Will the All Whites still have Nelsen, as a player in 2014 when he'll be 36? Do NZF need to talk to Nelsen and Elliott, 36, about future coaching or management roles? Elliott could be pitched straight in as an assistant for national age-group teams (up to and including the Olympic Games squad) and assisting him to attain international coaching qualifications.

Can Herbert – the most successful coach in All Whites' history – now take this team to even greater heights?

I'm not saying he can't – he's just had the best year of his career with the national team and the Wellington Phoenix.

But the All Whites' international credibility is at an all-time high. So are public expectations after the 1-1 draw with world champions Italy.

Is Herbert as hungry as he was? Is he still committed to self-improvement? If he is, why didn't he take up one of the offers he said he had to coach a club at a higher level overseas?

But NZF needs to ask whether it might now need a fulltime national coach to take charge of the All Whites but also oversee the entire international programme, including male and female age group teams.

NZF would be well within their rights during any campaign review to ask Herbert how he can continue to use his club role to best serve the nation's interests. Is he committed to having New Zealanders fill the three age-group player slots required under A-League rules? Is he prepared to take a punt, perhaps with NZF financial assistance, on young All Whites such as Aaron Clapham or Cole Peverley?

I'm not a qualified coach, I don't have the credentials to answer these questions – nor I suspect do most of the NZF board. They should bring in outside expertise, including respected Kiwi identities and some international football consultants.

But the debate must be had before anyone reaches for the rubber stamp pad.