Previous years, the VIC Country squad was a "2nd Victorian team, as in the second strongest team in Victoria". They put a competition in Victoria, called "Victorian Champions League" which helped identify the players from outside Melbourne. You will find they VIC Country squad weaker than previous years because of this. My mates Marko and Thomas Leech best players on there team (Striker and Goalkeeper). Leech actually travels 2 and a half hours to go training to play at Keilor.

Actually he is number 10. Wont be at your game this morning due to a very late night mate, drowning sorrows lol. I was so concentrated on the game that I dont remember seeing the Japanese jersey mate. If your wearing it today ill come over and have a chat.

Today Capital had a 1-0 win against Tassie. The team looked pretty lethargic and did not play to there potential but i guess a win is a win.

Hey mate, sorry I didn't make it to ACT's game today, I was there early, then left around lunchtime cos as you'd know, it was blowing a gale and I was freezing my arse off and was very much jacket-less, so I went to the shopping centre to buy one, then got a bit sidetracked while I was there. :lol:

DAY 2 RESULTS

Under 14's

QLD Country 5-1 Tasmania
NSW Metro 3-0 NNSW
WA 0-3 VIC Metro
QLD Metro 0-0 SA
TAS 0-1 ACT
VIC Country 0-0 NSW Country
NT 1-2 QLD Country
NNSW 3-0 VIC Metro \:d/ \:d/ \:d/ \:d/

Under 15's

ACT 0-0 NNSW
SA 1-3 VIC Metro
WA 3-2 NSW Metro
TAS 0-4 NSW Country
QLD Country 1-0 QLD Metro
NT 0-1 VIC Country
ACT 0-1 SA
VIC Metro 2-0 NSW Metro


Edited by MidfieldMaestro: 29/9/2010 07:44:16 PM

NNSW 14's match report time :lol:

1st game: 3-0 loss to NSW Metro. Due to the FFA rule of giving equal game time, we decided to put 4 of our big guns on our bench. The boys who did take the park kind of just went down without much of a fight. Gave away 3 really crap goals. One in the 9th minute, one in the first minute of the second half and one just before full time. Even when the 'big guns' came on, NNSW was barely a shadow of the team that took the field the day before. Putting it nicely, we just weren't anywhere near good enough to come away with anything here.

2nd game: 3-0 win over VIC Metro. Played pretty much full strength and outplayed, outsmarted, outdetermined and outscored the boys from Melbourne. Played some unbelieveable football and the vics only started to get a look in with about 10 to go. Very unexpected after the vics destroyed WA 3-0 earlier (led 3-0 after 20 minutes and just cruised home easily) and after we had put in that performace earlier that morning. The turn-around was monumental and more like the NNSW I know they can be.

Thats a great result in the second game MM. Well done, good luck against Q metro tomo. I think i should be there to watch that one.

It was so cold and windy today, i got there early and saw the second half of Qland metro ans SA then stayed on till about 5.30.

Thanks. Good luck to your boys vs VIC country as well. You guys should be right for that one.

If we line up full strength, we should be right for QLD Metro, but the FFA's rules may govern otherwise.

What formations are teams using?

The Director Of Coaching in this state said, before he resigned, that all states would be expected to play 4-3-3 in its various permutations.

He also contended that Han Berger will be sacking some state coaches if they don't.


Are many teams long balls out of defence, or is playing out from the back a more common mode of practice?

I'm fairly sure teams are using the 4-3-3 formation.

Teams also always try and play out from the back. Good to see teams being taught this way. Long balls are few and far between in this tournament.

Football Federation Victoria News

Great results on Day 2 for Victorians at the Boys National Youth Championships

Victoria had a successful second day at the Boys National Youth Championships in Coffs Harbour yesterday.

With only one defeat in the six matches on Wednesday, the Victorian players placed themselves in a good position to be selected in the All Star team , as well as a chance at being crowned National Champions.

Under 14 Country

Victoria 0 v 0 NSW Country

After a big build up to this critical game against a very strong NSW Country team, Victoria needed to, and did, come out strong. A solid first half performance showing great tactical team and individual awareness, and following the instructions of Coach John Waddell and his assistant, Shaun Parton, showed the strength of the team.

In what turned into a very physical contest, Victoria held strong at the back, keeping a clean sheet and earning a point in a difficult match.
Gianni Salvatore was solid in defence and his enthusiasm and hard running at the ball helped keep the ball out of the Victorian penalty area and limited their scoring opportunities. Tom Morrison had plenty of possession and his passing accuracy and dribbling were of high quality.
The coaching team were happy to see the team develop and improve on their defensive side of the game.

Under 14 Metro

Victoria 3 v 0 Football West – goals: Damien Miskulin (2), Baki Efe

Victoria came out strong in the first half; enthusiasm was high amongst the boys with the midfielders and attackers putting the West Australian defence under consistent pressure, causing numerous turnovers resulting on shots at goal.

The first goal came from a great strike from Damien Miskulin, the second followed shortly after, when David Morovic took a wonderful corner, setting it up perfectly for defender Baki Efe, who rose above the pack and headed it through. The third came late in the first half when constant pressure from the forwards caused Western Australia to make a mistake deep in our attack; Damien Miskulin was quick to react and had no problem putting his second goal into the back of the net.

Stand-in Captain Lewis Smirlis led the way with his voice, enthusiasm and leadership. His high work rate was a catalyst for many Victorian attacks, resulting in shots on goal. Angelo Amato and Adem Turcan both played very well throughout the midfield, controlling and setting up a lot of the play.

The clean sheet was testament to the strength of the back four.

Victoria 0 v 3 Northern NSW

In the second match of the day, the Under 14 Metro team went down to a very strong Northern NSW outfit. Victoria controlled possession early and created several opportunities to take an early lead but failed to convert them into goals. Jordan Brown was diligent in the midfield tackling hard in a difficult match. Second half substitute Adem Turcan slotted into a defensive midfield role and had a very positive match.

Under 15 Country

Victoria 1 v 0 Northern Territory – goal: Kieran Coltman

After a disappointing loss yesterday, Victoria was out to prove a point today and started off strongly against a well organised Northern Territory side. Utilising the wings was proving to be an effective game plan and eventually the heavy pressure paid off. A superb cross from deep was fumbled by the keeper and Kieran Coltman was on hand to slot it in from close range. Just five minutes later Kieran was unlucky not to have his second after his clinical finish was ruled out for offside, after some terrific work on the right flank set up the chance which was finished nicely despite the flag. In an effective and well organised second half, Victoria defended well and was efficient in the midfield stifling the many attacked from the boys in the North.

Matt Smith was superb in the middle of the park with the combative midfielder consistently breaking up attacks and starting some of his own.
Head Coach Dean Anastasiadis was pleased to get a win.

"I’m happy with the way we went about our game in the second half and overall we are constantly improving as the Championship goes on.”

Under 15 Metro

Victoria 3 v 1 South Australia – goals: Anthony Laus, Jordan Templin, Zachary De Bortoli

After a much needed good night’s sleep, the boys were full of confidence ahead of their second match of the Championships. However, the first half was extremely tense with only a few half chances from both teams.

It rained goals in the second half as South Australia took the lead in the 33rd minute with a great solo run and close range shot from Eddie Seisay. This seemed to spark the Victorians into life as they scored three goals in a scintillating nine minutes. First striker Anthony Laus finished superbly with his right foot after great pressure from Baran Karagoz and a cross from Joey Katebian. Then almost immediately Victoria Metro took the lead when a Dylan Bresolyn free kick wasn’t dealt with by the South Australian goalkeeper and Jordan Templin was on hand for a tap in. The third goal came from Zachary De Bortoli who was put though one on one with the keeper by Anthony Laus. His first effort was parried by the goalkeeper but made no mistake with his second effort as he chipped the goalkeeper. Baran Karagoz was a stand-out in a very effective second half performance.

Victoria 2 – 0 NSW Metro – goals: Baran Karagoz (2)

In their second match of the day Victoria were in a rematch of last year’s final. Unfortunately for Victoria they lost their goalkeeper and captain Keegan Coulter to injury with a suspected fractured finger after only twelve minutes, with Joey Katebian taking over in goal. Both teams traded possession in a bleak first half which ended goalless. As in the first game Victoria took control of the match in the second half and was lead by their stand in captain James Kervalis. A painful miss was all but forgotten ten minutes later when Baran Karagoz scored one of the goals of the Championships with a dipping shot from 30 yards in which the goalkeeper had no chance. He then secured the Victory with ten minutes to go when he slotted the ball home after outpacing the tired looking NSW defence. In the last minute replacement goalkeeper Joey Katebian made a fantastic reflex save to deny NSW a late consolation goal.

Baran Karagoz was again a stand-out with his two goals proving the difference.

Head Coach Chris Taylor and his assistant Graham Hockless were extremely proud of the team’s performances today, especially in the second match after losing their captain.

Last updated: Thursday September 30, 2010 12:02PM

All teams are expected to play 1-4-3-3, long balls are frowned upon by the technical director Han Berger. In fact at a meeting last night with all coaches he stated how bad all teams were at playing out from the back, so at least they are doing it and he can see that they are trying to accept the new national curricullum.

Capital had a 0-0 draw today with Vic Country in the u/14's.

That's harsh if he said that. I've seen some pretty decent play out from the back by most teams. Not all the time, but I wouldn't call them all bad.

Saw the Capital football game today spathi, the ball just wouldn't go in for you guys after you dominated pretty much the whole game. Kind of like for the NNSW boys. Tense times ahead, hoping that NSW C slip up against Tassie. With all due respect, NSWC has been surprisingly decent, comprehensively destroying QLD C 3-1. Could have been 6 or 7, quite easily.

Our game was quite a depressing one. As per usual, played good football, dominated, had chances, all over them, then one lapse of concentration at the back results in a clumsy tackle, a penalty, a yellow card and a goal from the resulting penalty. Apart from that, we were largely comfortable, just couldn't score. I think I was just as devastated as the players. For the way they played, it was shattering to see them be the better team and have nothing to show for it.

Tense times for us as well, trying to avoid relegation to Group B for next year, anyone could go down, except NSW Metro who are already national champions.

Group A

NSWM: 12 points
QLDM: 5 points
NNSW: 4 points
VICM: 4 points
WA: 4 points
SA: 3 points.

Final day fixtures:

WA v NNSW
QLDM v VICM
SA v NSWM

Go NSW Metro for tomorrow! :p Do us a favour!

P.S: During the ACT v VIC C game, the attitudes from some of both side's parents was quite....irritating. I thought the ref in that game did ok, no real stuff ups, but every time one team got a free kick, some of the parents on the other side would yell out stuff, or thought that every foul was worthy of a yellow card. One ACT parent even made a racial slur against the referee which I though was quite disgusting, deplorable and pathetic. I thought national championships was supposed to bring out the best in people, not the worst. /rant.

That aside, it's been an enjoyable week so far, and the final day should be very exciting in both groups. Should be a good day.

http://au.fourfourtwo.com/forums/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=42277

fellas you need to be thinking about this.

who made the All Stars Team's?

I couldn't tell you the full squads, but if I remember, I'll find the list and post it here.

You know krones, QLD Country went alright at these championships, especially the 15's. They won their group with 4 x 1-0 wins and a 0-1 loss to NT.


NNSW had a 1-1 draw with WA today. Ended up finishing 3rd. Not bad, but had enough chances to get 2nd comfortably.

By the way, nice to meet you spathi. :) See you next year.

I agree MM, QC did very well despite the lack of appreciation for Lonton.

It was nice to meet with you also MM and put a face to the avatar, I do hope to see you next year.:)

Indeed, have a safe trip home. :)

P.S: Congratulate your son for me for playing well this week and finding the net a few times. From what I saw of ACT's games, he did quite well and I'm 100% sure he'll be picked to return next year.

Thanks mate, all the best to your bro also.

Should the u15’s Queensland metro and Queensland country be allowed to play in the same group. Or should they have to play each other before hand to decide group A and group B positions.

Interesting point this.

Some recalcitrants, who consider themselves experts on football methodology, recommend playing different formations from 1-4-3-3. They contend it is better to play two forwards, conceding possession of the ball in midfield, with more of a traditional physical Australian long ball and second ball style for Australian underage teams playing in the international sphere. They have criticised Berger and Verslieijen for lack of short term results.

Australia may even get better results with the playing stocks we have at the moment, using this style in the short term.

Long term, it won't help Australia advance as a football nation.

Development better tactical and technical footballers long term is paramount compared to Australia getting 'results' in bigger tournaments, by employing less technical football at this point in time. It is important to change the prevailing culture.

Some recalcitrants point to some good South American coaches operating in this country. What they say may be true. Conversely, there is no big training centre for coaches to be trained by a few well-credentialled coaches (South American or any others) practising sound methodology aside from evolving FFA courses. FFA courses are becoming more technically oriented with Dutch influence. This is good.





Edited by Decentric: 2/10/2010 11:57:47 AM

Another year another FFA football nationals has been played and won. Congratulations to Football West in winning the u/15 group A and NSW metro the u/14's. Congratulations also must go to Queensland Country u/15 and NSW Country u/14 for winning group B. By NSW Country winning their group they gain promotion to group A for next year. As there is no u/16 nationals there is no promotion for Queensland Country.

Congratulations must also go to the organisers of the tournament NNSW Football. The pitches provided were of world quality and stood up to the rigors of four days continual use. All games went ahead at scheduled times as there was plenty of time between games, in fact all games started before scheduled times. Dressing rooms for all teams to use, warm up pitches provided and I thought that the referees had a tremendous tournament as well . So a big round of applause from me'

To all participating teams, I am very proud to say that these boys played the game hard but fair. I dont think there was even one red card all tournament and the yellows could have been counted on one hand. So well done to everyone.

There are a few of issues though that I think need addressing:

1. When a player was injured there was no added time and this could sway a couple of results. Even though as I say, there was plenty of time between games to allow for up to 5 minutes at the end of the second half. With halves being 25 minutes long and to lose 5, 6 or seven minutes in a game can be crucial. FFA will state that " we dont care about winning, its the players development that counts " so then why have a promotion and relegation in place? It sort of defeats the purpose, dont you think?

2: Every team was told to play 1-4-3-3 which I believe all teams did. They were also told that the ball must be played out from the back. No long kicks from goalkeepers or defenders were the instructions given to all teams. And it was good to see that most teams adopted this practice, except for some teams where winning meant everything. I wont mention who the teams were but needless to say that the selected Allstars squads were heavily stacked with players from the teams that played long ball. Not only that but the coaches of those teams were made caches of the Allstars squads.

3.The top team in both the u/14 and u/15 of group A played a game against the selected Allstars squad which is a great concept although. Why pick players from the winning teams to play in the Allstars squad? These players were already going to play in this the final game of the week. Why not give a chance to five or six other players to show their abilities? This I thought was a little disappointing.



Edited by spathi: 3/10/2010 10:03:12 AM

Amen to that post. Brilliant post spathi, agree with everything there. =d>

Sent you a PM too, by the way.

Thanks mate.

so some of teams didnt follow the instructions from the FFA??? poor form i say to them!

And who selected the All Star teams? Han Berger and Co.

There were a group of coaches selecting the Allstars teams and they included, Han Berger, Gary Van Egmond, Tony Franken and a couple of others that there names elude me right now. Maybe MidfieldMaestro remembers the others.

Actually I saw Tony Vidmar in the selectors box quite a few times and he was the coach of the U/15 SA team.

Edited by spathi: 3/10/2010 04:26:18 PM

Well thats dispointing that they selected the "long ball" coaches then??? who was the best football team to watch in your opinion???

Football West and NNSW played some decent football IMHO. If I said Capital then I would be called biased.

The other selectors were Kelly Cross and Milan Blagojevich.

TBH i dont see how telling teenage boys at one of the highest levels they can play to play for fun and development is going to work, of course they are going to do anything to win.

WA excels at National Youth Championships Subscribe to News 4.10.2010

WA's Under 15 National Champions. Photo courtesy Football West Western Australia won their first National Youth Championship in over 30 years after taking out the Under 15's title in Coffs Harbour last week.

The 14's also finished equal-third to make it a highly successful tournament for Football West's young up-and-coming talent.

Over both age groups, WA had seven All-Star Selections after performing incredibly well throughout the Championships.

Slobodan Vulin was named the prestigious Player of the Tournament, while Nicholas Ambrogio took out the Golden Boot.

Under 15's Riley Woodcock and Vulin were already identified at January's Institute Challenge, so didn't take part in the All-Star team, taking the total to a WA record nine identified players.

The Under 15's were coached by Kenny Weston, while Warren Grieve was in charge of the Under 14's squad.

"The quality of our U15's playing style came actually at no surprise," said U15 assistant coach Cris Ola.

"Most of the U15 players were involved in the National Training Centre (NTC) program for the whole season and also had a great opportunity to build their international playing experience one month ago in the Gangjin International Tournament against some of the best teams of their age in the world.

"A great deal of appreciation has to go to all the people involved in their development so far, including club coaches, NTC coaching staff and Football West High Performance coaching staff."

FOOTBALL WEST UNDER 14 BOYS
PLAYER NAME SUBURB
Daniel PASSARELI BASSENDEAN
Joshua TUCKER BANKSIA GROVE
Harry HAWKINS CURRAMBINE
Gareth CRAWLEY CURRAMBINE
Rocco PIZZATA BAYSWATER
Leo ATHANASIOU HAMILTON HILL
Daniel DESILVA LANDSDALE
Jack JONES TAPPING
Mohamed BEYAN LEDA
Matthew NTOUMENOPOULOS BALLAJURA
Jack IREDALE HEATHRIDGE
Pearse MCKEE WOODVALE
Jesse LAZZARO SPEARWOOD
Ben HOMBERT CITY BEACH
Matthew AKERMAN PORT KENNEDY
Ryan BARKER MELVILLE

Coach: Warren Grieve
Assistant Coach: Darren Young
Team Manager: Paul Turvill

FOOTBALL WEST UNDER 15 BOYS
PLAYER NAME SUBURB
Nicholas AMBROGIO KARDINYA
Daniel BUHAGIAR PADBURY
Jacob COLLARD CANNING VALE
Kieran COLWELL KINROSS
Matthew DAVIES MENORA
Jordan FRANKEN HILLARYS
Scott GALLOWAY THORNLIE
Guy KALMA PALMYRA
Ogi LALOVIC BOORAGOON
Luke RADONICH COOGEE
Callum RICHARDSON AUSTRALIND
Georgie ATHANASIOU DIANELLA
Lawrence SHURUMA BALGA
Alexsandar SULESKI DIANELLA
Slobodan VULIN STIRLING
Riley WOODCOCK KELMSCOTT

Coach: Kenny Weston
Assistant Coach: Cris Ola
Team Manager: Dave Whalley

FFA NATIONAL YOUTH CHAMPIONSHIPS RESULTS

FOOTBALL WEST UNDER 14 BOYS
Tuesday September 28
12pm Football West 1 (Pearse McKee) v Queensland Metro 1

Wednesday September 29
9am Football West 0 v Victoria Metro 3

Thursday September 30
6.30am South Australia 1 v Football West 2 (Matthew Ntoumenopoulos, Pearse McKee)
12.45pm NSW Metro 4 v Football West 1 (Pearse McKee)

Friday October 1
6.30am Football West 1 (Daniel DeSilva) v Northern NSW 1

Under 14 All-Star Selections
Jack Iredale
Daniel DeSilva

All-Stars v National Champions Match
Under 14 All-Stars 0 NSW Metro 2

FOOTBALL WEST UNDER 15 BOYS
Tuesday September 28
12pm Football West 2 (Slobodan Vulin pen, Nicholas Ambrogio) v Capital Football 2

Wednesday September 29
9am Football West 3 (Nicholas Ambrogio, Scott Galloway, Kieran Colwell) v NSW Metro 2

Thursday September 30
6.30am Northern NSW 0 v Football West 2 (Nicholas Ambrogio, Laurence Shuruma)
11.30am South Australia 1 v Football West 3 (Nicholas Ambrogio, Daniel Buhagiar, Kieran Colwell)

Friday October 1
9am Football West 2 (Kieran Colwell, Nicholas Ambrogio) v Victoria Metro 1

Under 15 All-Star Selections
Laurence Shuruma
Daniel Buhagiar
Callum Richardson
Scott Galloway
Nicholas Ambrogio

Player of the Tournament
Slobodan Vulin

Golden Boot
Nicholas Ambrogio

All-Stars v National Champions Match
Under 15 All-Stars 2 Football West 1 (Georgie Athanasiou)