buddha69
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Seems as if there is some sort of interest in NFL on here.
Use this thread for discussion etc
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Gooner4life_8
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the only real interest i have in nfl is playing it, shit to watch, but i tell you what it's a fucking hell of a lot of fun!
i miss those primary school days when we all clobbered each other playing nfl, i wasn't one of the bigger kids but i could sure put in a decent tackle
ah, those were the days :)
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scouse_roar
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Terrible sport. Seems like it's just set up for advertising and so thousands of statisticians can make a living.
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Felixx_17
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scouse_roar wrote:Terrible sport. Seems like it's just set up for advertising and so thousands of statisticians can make a living. This
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Bonkers
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Felixx_17 wrote:scouse_roar wrote:Terrible sport. Seems like it's just set up for advertising and so thousands of statisticians can make a living. This You should both STFU! :P The tactical depth of American Football is crazy. They cover everything, its so thorough. Its not just a game for knuckleheads. The players are athletic beasts, faster, stronger, more accurate, consistent, etc. at everything they do than players in any other team sport.
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Benjo
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Totally agree with bonkers.
I'm a Patriots fan. Before anyone accuses me of being a bandwagoner, I offer the defence that i picked the Patriots as my team after Peter Griffin signed for them. :lol:
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buddha69
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Benjo wrote:Totally agree with bonkers.
I'm a Patriots fan. Before anyone accuses me of being a bandwagoner, I offer the defence that i picked the Patriots as my team after Peter Griffin signed for them. :lol: :lol: :lol: I'm a Colts fan. I ain't a bandwagoner
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scouse_roar wrote:Terrible sport. Seems like it's just set up for advertising and so thousands of statisticians can make a living. +1 and for marketing purposes. Every stoppage in play requires a 2 minute break, conveniently enough time to spruke some ads.
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How are they the best athletes in the world? Pulease. The tactics may be "deep", but I'd still rather play a game of chess than watch a bunch of wankers run around in plastic armour, taking a break every 20 seconds.
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pimpsta
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buddha69 wrote:Benjo wrote:Totally agree with bonkers.
I'm a Patriots fan. Before anyone accuses me of being a bandwagoner, I offer the defence that i picked the Patriots as my team after Peter Griffin signed for them. :lol: :lol: :lol: I'm a Colts fan. I ain't a bandwagoner im a seahawkes fan, i wish we won anything so i could be accused of being a bandwagon fan,the cloest we have to anything remotly half decent is one of the presenters on NFL live on ESPN is the brother of our quaterback matt hasleback :lol: we have a tough first round game vs the 49'd but its at home so im hoping we can do well
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f1worldchamp
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As a long time Packers fan I'm really hoping this is their year. A lot of pundits are picking them for the Superbowl, which is what bothers me, cause the talking heads are usually wrong!
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Benjo
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Forgot to say, my second favorite team has gotta be none other than the Dillon High Panthers.
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hgd
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Philli Egles for me. Don't think they'll do anything this year though tbh.
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Bonkers
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Cowboys. Jumped on the bandwagon a couple of years ago. Tony Romo, Marion Barber and DeMarcus Ware were my faves back then. Really fell of the bandwagon though so now im just getting back into.
Im getting into college football now moreso than NFL but dont have a fave team.
Theyre the best athletes in team sports. Compare any one player in any one attribute eg. pace, strength, power, to any other athlete in any other team sport and there will most be at least one NFL player who can beat them.
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I've been on and off the bandwagon of teams for a while. I want to get a team but dunno who to follow anymore. :p
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who's the worst team in NFL? 'cos i'll jump on the underdog bandwagon...
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buddha69
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Gooner4life_8 wrote:who's the worst team in NFL? 'cos i'll jump on the underdog bandwagon... St Louis Rams only won 1 game last season Detroit Lions only won 2 games last season
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Gooner4life_8 wrote:who's the worst team in NFL? 'cos i'll jump on the underdog bandwagon... Detroit didn't win a game 2 seasons ago.
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pimpsta
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san fran 6 seattle seahawkes 31, awesome first up game for us, esp with a new coach at the helm its good to get a win first up,
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pimpsta wrote:san fran 6 seattle seahawkes 31, awesome first up game for us, esp with a new coach at the helm its good to get a win first up, That's a great first up result for the Seahawks
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buddha69
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Colts had a first up loss against the Texans. :cry:
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Benjo
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Patriots had a good win against the Bengals, or the Ben-Gaaals as Fox Sport call them. Gonna be a tough season without Ty Warren though.
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buddha69 wrote:Gooner4life_8 wrote:who's the worst team in NFL? 'cos i'll jump on the underdog bandwagon... St Louis Rams only won 1 game last season Detroit Lions only won 2 games last season I was surprised to see that The Rams took the game to Arizona on the weekend. Really expected them to do a lot better. Green Bay played a good game for the season opener. Any Packers fans on here? I was surprised to see the Chargers go down and that the Giants won so convincingly.
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Vikings for me. Only watch it every now and again. And like replays as they skip all the down time. Its very tactical.
Good to watch :)
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the down-time is only there so you can get up and get another beer.
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pimpsta
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seahawkes just lost to danver :(
but on the plus side the manning brothers are facing off today, colts vs giants which should be good,
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Go the Packers. I'll admit, rolling the Bills 34-7 isn't exactly the best indication, but we kept the Eagles quiet last week and they were hot against Washington.
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pimpsta wrote:seahawkes just lost to danver :(
but on the plus side the manning brothers are facing off today, colts vs giants which should be good, And Peyton wins it for the Colts. Great win against the Giants 38-14
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pimpsta
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giants took the piss
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f1worldchamp wrote:Go the Packers. I'll admit, rolling the Bills 34-7 isn't exactly the best indication, but we kept the Eagles quiet last week and they were hot against Washington. It's a good start to their season. They did well against the Eagles, but Kolb was injured early on for them so I'm not sure if it's a result to run with. What they did to the Bills was great to see. Cards got annihilated by the Falcons, dunno what the fuck happened there. Surprised New England lost to the Jets too. also, lol @ the giants. I dont' like either of the Manning brothers. Peyton's a fucking douche.
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Benjo
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Randy Moss is now at his third team for the season, after being traded to Minnesota from New England, he now finds himself in Tennessee. Interesting. Hoping we can git' er done against the Steelers. Will be hard.
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I'm a Bears fan, let's hope we can get the job done against the Vikes tonight. But our offensive line has to improve, it's been crap so far this season, no doubt Cutler will get sacked at least 27803 times. :lol:
I'd love to see the Pats win tonight, Benjo. The Steelers' defence is pretty mean though, is the game in Pittsburgh or NE?
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was watching the dolphins vs Tennessee game before, Miami went through 3 QB'S the first two got hurt and there 3rd choice went very well actually
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pats steelers shoube good. steelers 34-17
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Um...the Steelers went down 39-26 at home to New England?
Big win for Dallas this weekend. Seattle getting a good result over Arizona.
...and Green Bay don't play this week :(
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it was my pregame prediction.
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You backed the steelers against a team that's 7-2 and favourite for the 'bowl? They're the form team at the moment, they've won 6 of their last 7.
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Yeah but pats lost miserably last week, IIRC they were both 6-2 before this match and Pittsburgh were at home. I wasnt the only one to tip against them.
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Benjo
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Great win by the Patriots. I'm shocked at how well we're doing this year without Moss and Ty Warren.
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Bonkers wrote:Yeah but pats lost miserably last week, IIRC they were both 6-2 before this match and Pittsburgh were at home. I wasnt the only one to tip against them. The loss at Cleveland was an interesting one. I don't know what happened there, but IIRC they were missing two of their linebackers through injury. NE always bounce back hard to losses too. Massive win today for the Eagles. They thrashed the Redskins by 31 points.
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Great win by the Seahawkes over Arizona, good to see our QB Matt Hasselbeck come back, we missed him and in he's return he threw 333 yeards, we won 36-18
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There's been some serious yardage this weekend. Vick through for something like 350 yards as well.
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Vick's having a great year. He's making opposition defence look like dogs. 8-[
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Vick is playing phenomenal football given he's their second choice QB, but I don't think Kolb will be getting his starting spot back any time soon. He hasn't played this well since Pro-Bowl '05. Also, he looks like Chris Rock.
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Vick is the kind of player youd create on a video game. left handed, fast as a running back, black QB. Breaks the mold.
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Bonkers wrote:Vick is the kind of player youd create on a video game. left handed, fast as a running back, black QB. Breaks the mold. There are plenty of players that are left handed, there have been various black QB's and a few with pace, he's just the one player that gets it all together. He won't ever be rememebred as a legend of the game though.
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hes unique. the whole jail dog fighting thing has done damage though to his rep. Hes still young though.
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That'll be what he's remembered for more than for his football ability.
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I hope the Packers can put Minnesota out of their misery this week. They won't be coming back from 3-7.
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Benjo wrote:Vick's having a great year. He's making opposition defence look like dogs. 8-[
Edited by benjo: 17/11/2010 07:05:12 PM i get it, well done :lol:
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Looking forward to our matchup with the Colts. Not liking our chances though. Can defo see us losing this one.
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f1worldchamp wrote:I hope the Packers can put Minnesota out of their misery this week. They won't be coming back from 3-7. I'll second that. Packers are due a good game, they've limped through the last couple of weeks because of injuries, but there's a few players back this week so it should be big. Patriots v Colts is match of the round for sure.
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Benjo
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Patriots. \:d/
LOL at Peyton.
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The race is now on. Who get's their marching orders in Minnesota first? Farve or Childress? LOL. For the Packers to be 7-3 with the amount of injuries they've had is amazing, but it's going to play a big part down the stretch, since we also still have to play New England, NY Giants and the Bears again to finish the season.
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Benjo wrote:Patriots. \:d/
LOL at Peyton. :x :twisted:
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f1worldchamp wrote:The race is now on. Who get's their marching orders in Minnesota first? Farve or Childress? LOL. For the Packers to be 7-3 with the amount of injuries they've had is amazing, but it's going to play a big part down the stretch, since we also still have to play New England, NY Giants and the Bears again to finish the season. I'd say that Favre isn't the problem, it's the defence coach. Favre is getting the ball down there, he still threw for over 200 yards against us, but their defence just concedes too much ground. That said, Aaron Rogers is a fucking machine. I think the injuries for Packers have been almost beneficial, they've shown that they've got the depth there, guys like Clay Matthews, Aaron Rogers, John Kuhn, and Matt Wilhelm have been stars this season, and with Finley, Grant and Martin coming back before the play-offs...shit could be huge. I'd be putting my money on an Eagles v Packers NFC play-off. Steelers v Patriots over in the NFC. NFC South looks like the conference to watch. Atlanta on 8-2 and Saints and Bucaneers on 7-3... Tom Brady was fucking sensational this weekend too.
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I was right one of them was going to go. Childress was fired early this week. Favre's problem is what it's always been, not protecting the ball and giving up too many turnovers. He's had 17 interceptions and 5 fumbles lost so far this year. That's 22 turnovers in 10 games. No coach is going to survive that. BTW, pretty sure Finley went on Injured Reserve, which means he can't come back for the playoffs, even if he's healthy.
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I saw Childress got the boot all of 10 minutes after I made my post. He was never really that good a coach IMo. Mind you, he had a lot to live up to after the Vikings' side of the 90's. I don't rate Leslie Frazier either, his defensive frailties are what cost Childress his job.
That's a bummer about Finley, I thought the Injured Reserve list in NFL was like the Disabled List in Baseball.
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Thanksgiving Day clash with the Lions tomorrow which in theory we should win, but we have to careful not to be too arrogant. If the Ravens can mange to beat the Jets tomorrow , that will be a huge boost for us. We still got to play them, the bears and the Packers though.
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New England and Green Bay have pretty tough runs home. We've also got @Falcons (8-2), 49ers (3-7 - should win easily), @Lions (2-8 - should win that too), @ Patriots (8-2), Giants (6-4) and Bears (7-3).
So four teams who are top of their conferences. Fortunately the toughest game there is off the back of waht should be two easy wins.
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if dallas pull one out here ill probably pull mine out.
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EAsy win for New England in the end. Detroit pushed them in the first half then Brady stepped up and blew them away. Looked like hitting the target every time he had the ball.
Fortunately the Saints and Jets had to work for it.
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Just watched the replay of Atlanta V Green Bay. Great match with Atlanta getting the win with a FG on the final play of the day.
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tiny455 wrote:Just watched the replay of Atlanta V Green Bay. Great match with Atlanta getting the win with a FG on the final play of the day. Falcons are almost unbeatable at home right now. I thought the Packers did well to get as close as they did with no running game what so ever.
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Green Bay did well, but it's disheartening that they lost out in the end. Mind you, they should win their next game to give them a good lead-up v the Lions, win that and they've got a good chance v Patriots.
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Good win for the Packers at home this weekend, should beat the Lions comfotably...
Jets are sinking without a trace...perhaps now would be a good time to throw some dosh down on Patriots for the 'bowl...
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afromanGT wrote:Good win for the Packers at home this weekend, should beat the Lions comfotably...
Jets are sinking without a trace...perhaps now would be a good time to throw some dosh down on Patriots for the 'bowl... A number of big teams are failing. Look at the Giants and Colts as well. Bit of a mixed bag this season
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HT between the Jets and Pats. Healthy lead for us of 24-3
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ausmojo wrote:afromanGT wrote:Good win for the Packers at home this weekend, should beat the Lions comfotably...
Jets are sinking without a trace...perhaps now would be a good time to throw some dosh down on Patriots for the 'bowl... A number of big teams are failing. Look at the Giants and Colts as well. Bit of a mixed bag this season I actually predicted the Chargers to beat the Colts. I cant' say I'm surprised to see the Colts having an average season, I don't rate Manning that highly (Either of them for that matter), when his offensive line can't play a running game he falls apart, which is waht you saw with the Chargers. Easy win in the end for the Patriots, just hope they don't do the same thing to us in two weeks.
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Really disheartening to go down like that this morning.
Did anybody see The Giants v Eagles game? :shock: Fucking 28 points in the 4th quarter to take it down.
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I saw the winning touchdown. Fucking hell.
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The whole game was just fucking incredible. Good to see a Manning get shown up so badly too.
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It's official. Tom brady has broken the record for most passes without being intercepted. Record is now at 319 passes. And the Patriots have top seed in the AFC. Giggity.
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I hate the NFL, we have the best RB in the league yet we get nowhere, seriously we need to fuck both Kerry Collins and Vince Young right off and try and draft a Luck or Newman.
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Drew Brees is a lunatic.
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Benjo wrote:It's official. Tom brady has broken the record for most passes without being intercepted. Record is now at 319 passes. And the Patriots have top seed in the AFC. Giggity. Gonna be hard to see anybody stopping their march to the bowl. Eagles v Pats for the superbowl. That was a stellar performance from the Packers again, systematically destroyed the Giants. Makes you wonder what we'd have done to the Pats if Rogers had played :(
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Colts got 3rd seed. Happy
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stoked the packers made the play-offs. Pretty disappointed we have to travel to philly for it though. We might be able to pull one out though.
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keen for this BCS championship game in 8 days.
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AFC Seeds New England Pittsburgh Indianapolis Kansas City Baltimore New York Jets NFC Seeds Atlanta Chicago Philadelphia Seattle New Orleans Green Bay
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Still looks like it's going to be Eagles v Pats for the 'bowl.
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Thinking about investing in an Aaron Rogers jersey...Whaddaya reckon FFT? Do I fork over the $100 for it?
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No.
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If you are gonna do it, do it sooner rather than later, the economy is pretty good for stuff from America atm. I'm thinking about getting a Patriots jersey, the one I've got currently has Mike Vrabel on the back. He's long gone from the team.
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afromanGT wrote:Thinking about investing in an Aaron Rogers jersey...Whaddaya reckon FFT? Do I fork over the $100 for it? You can probably get it for cheaper than that. Especially if you were to forgo the the D in Rodgers.
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Bonkers wrote:afromanGT wrote:Thinking about investing in an Aaron Rogers jersey...Whaddaya reckon FFT? Do I fork over the $100 for it? You can probably get it for cheaper than that. Especially if you were to forgo the the D in Rodgers. I fucking hate it when I do that. Yeah...I don't think they give you a discount for typos. I want it...but I don't want to have to pay $100 for it...but I don't think I'm going to be able to find it any cheaper. Maybe on ebay...but I don't have an ebay account.
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afromanGT wrote:Bonkers wrote:afromanGT wrote:Thinking about investing in an Aaron Rogers jersey...Whaddaya reckon FFT? Do I fork over the $100 for it? You can probably get it for cheaper than that. Especially if you were to forgo the the D in Rodgers. I fucking hate it when I do that. Yeah...I don't think they give you a discount for typos. I want it...but I don't want to have to pay $100 for it...but I don't think I'm going to be able to find it any cheaper. Maybe on ebay...but I don't have an ebay account. If they charge for lettering though. email Green Bay Packers and ask if theyll send you a free one. See how nice their PR team is. I emailed liverpool and got a gift pack sent back to me and the PR chick I was emailing told me to email her again the next season and she'd give me more stuff.
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Yeah...I was lookig at doing a 'custom replica'...which is $99 US, but if you get a specific Rodgers replica shirt it's $79...so I just saved myself $20. I can buy one that Rodgers has actually worn in a game for $200 :lol:
What'd you actually say to score some free shit?
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afromanGT wrote:Yeah...I was lookig at doing a 'custom replica'...which is $99 US, but if you get a specific Rodgers replica shirt it's $79...so I just saved myself $20. I can buy one that Rodgers has actually worn in a game for $200 :lol:
What'd you actually say to score some free shit? I said I wanted something to give my bro for his birthday and wanted it to look like id made an effort. Of course hes not a liverpool fan and his birthday was long gone but she didnt know that.
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So they sent you something for free. That makes no sense to me.
Im just trying to work out whether a large shirt is going to be big enough. How do the sizes work for NFL jerseys?
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afromanGT wrote:So they sent you something for free. That makes no sense to me.
Im just trying to work out whether a large shirt is going to be big enough. How do the sizes work for NFL jerseys? what can i say? its good PR, they said they couldnt send a jersey to me cause they were all going to different locations in africa (africa always getting everything :roll: ) so i guess they felt sorry theyd already distributed them. well match day jerseys need room for shoulder pads and shit. supporter jerseys idk, I think theyre a bit smaller.. although the people in the crowd tend to be the same height and weight as those on the field.. just a different composition.. Theyre worn biggg so yeah, keep that in mind.
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Yeah, what I'm wondering is whether a Large jersey is a jersey designed to fit a person who normally wears a large, but with pads underneath. Or whether it's the same size as a large Liverpool Jersey. I think I'll email them to find that out.
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Falcons v Pats Superbowl. Falcons win 31-24, Matt Ryan MVP. Thats what im hoping.
Im a Titans fan, word out of nashville is that Jeff Fisher is staying which will most likely see the end of Vince Young in Tennessee (Thank fuck). Looks like we will be drafting a QB, hopefully Ryan Mallett.
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Falcon's won't win. They'll get taken out by the eagles for the NFC championship. Never underestimate the Eagles' Vick-factor. The only reason they didn't make it straight through is because he wasn't starting QB at the start of the season.
Vince Young's attitude is all wrong. Does my head in. The NFL can't wait to see the back of him.
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Watching Seahawks vs Saints. Anyone else watching?
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Me. :(
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afromanGT wrote:Yeah, what I'm wondering is whether a Large jersey is a jersey designed to fit a person who normally wears a large, but with pads underneath. Or whether it's the same size as a large Liverpool Jersey. I think I'll email them to find that out. My shoulder pads fit into replica jurseys but just tighter than my actual game jurseys. Think sizes along the line of your gut, cause the shoulders will be a bit slack (for the pads) but not too slack, its a little strecthy in that region. EPL (liverpool) XL is smaller than NFL (Buffalo/Giants) XL
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Wow. Seattle 41-36 New Orleans. Huge upset, fully expected Brees to get the job done. And then the Jets knock out the Colts with the last kick of the game.
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Shattered about the Colts :(
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Glenn - A-league Mad wrote:Think sizes along the line of your gut, cause the shoulders will be a bit slack (for the pads) but not too slack, its a little strecthy in that region.
EPL (liverpool) XL is smaller than NFL (Buffalo/Giants) XL My Packers jersey (an old Favre one I've resisted burning :twisted:) is a 2XL and sits big on me, and my genuine Adidas Milan jersey is a 2XL as well and fits about the same. Pretty sure supporter jersey's don't take pads into account. Watch the game and you'll see most players barely have sleaves anymore, where the supporter kits are down to the elbow.
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Thats a great win for the Packers. And the Cheifs were hammered by the Ravens
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Well played by Rodgers. What a gun player he is. Second best QB in the league, no doubt. The only reason we didn't blow the Eagles clean out of the water was our defence just not being switched on.
Chiefs were no match for the Ravens, they were fucking terrible. Ravens could be really good if they had a QB better than Flacco.
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It's a big weekend kicking off. Down to the business end now. Division Championships.
Steelers v Ravens should be a good game. Flacco isn't having a good year, neither is Roethlisberger. It should be close.
Falcons v Packers should be a hell of a game too. Rodgers is playing beatifully and if Packers defence turns up this week, things will be very exciting. Matthews and Jennings to be deciding factors there.
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24-21 to the Steelers with 6:30 remaining in the 4th quarter. Should be a great finish. Ravens lead 21-7 at half time :lol:
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24-24 with 3:45 remaining. Cmon Ravens
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Steelers are off to the AFC Championship game for the 2nd time in 3 Seasons. 31-24 over the Ravens
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Steelers just too good. Flacco's recievers choked hard in that last minute and a half, he shouldn't have kept throwing for the 30 yard pass. Telling stat that Flacco only threw for 16/30 and 125 yards despite having the ball for longer than the steelers (19/32 for 236).
Now for the big one [size=9]COME ON YOU PACKERS!!![/size]
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afromanGT wrote:Steelers just too good. Flacco's recievers choked hard in that last minute and a half, he shouldn't have kept throwing for the 30 yard pass. Telling stat that Flacco only threw for 16/30 and 125 yards despite having the ball for longer than the steelers (19/32 for 236).
Now for the big one [size=9]COME ON YOU PACKERS!!![/size] I think the Packers can cause the upset and get up tonight. Will be tough against the Falcons though. Did you see that the NFL on FOX guys picked the Packers to win? Apart from 1 i think
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Falcons are 2 from 2 on the third down, frustrating start but not a disaster yet.
Yeah, I saw the panel's picks on Fox. Aaron Rodgers is a real indoors QB. Hasn't lost a game in an inddors stadium this season. Mind you, Falcons have only dropped 1 home game all season.
Punt coming up. Rodgers chance to show what he can do.
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Something tells me this one is over. Great win by the Packers, Matt Ryan never got going.
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That. Was. Epic.
We fumbled the first play, we conceded a 102 yard return...and still got up 48-21. Aaron Rodgers was amazing. 136.8 rating for Rodgers is huge 366 yards. Clay Matthews stood up this week, two sacks. 5 sacks, 2 interceptions and 4 fumbles from defence was fantastic. Probably the best our defence has looked all season bar that big return.
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afromanGT wrote:That. Was. Epic.
We fumbled the first play, we conceded a 102 yard return...and still got up 48-21. Aaron Rodgers was amazing. 136.8 rating for Rodgers is huge 366 yards. Clay Matthews stood up this week, two sacks. 5 sacks, 2 interceptions and 4 fumbles from defence was fantastic. Probably the best our defence has looked all season bar that big return. Congrats mate. Enjoyed discussing it with you
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NFL is infinitely better when you've got someone to discuss it with. And that was a great game to talk about.
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So many upsets.
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](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) :x :x ](*,) :cry: #-o ](*,) :x :x :cry: :x Fucking Jets.
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Benjo wrote:](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) :x :x ](*,) :cry: #-o ](*,) :x :x :cry: :x Fucking Jets. Unlucky mate.
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Lucky no bets were placed, would've done all my money.
Some major upsets ! :shock:
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Go you Packers! Packers v Bears for the NFC Championship is going to be an awesome game.
And good on those Jets for giving to those cheatin' Patriots.
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I love the fact that Packers have beaten all the remaining teams this season :P A game against the bears should be very interesting, on current form we can beat them, but they played well against Seattle.
Jets did really well there, I thought the Patriots were going to steamroll them again but there you go!
Jets v Steelers will be interesting. Santonio Holmes playing against his old team (where he won a 'bowl).
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Meh, the Seahawks aren't that good, as their 7-9 record would suggest. Last week was an aberration caused the the combination of a massive home ground advantage and an over confident Saints. The Bears are good, but Cutler tends to fall apart if he's put under pressure. Matthews & Woodson won't be giving him as much time and space as the 'Hawks did. I was thinking about asking for Superbowl Monday off, but I don't want to jinx it.
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Yeah, the saints performance was woeful. I find it comforting that the Bears conceded so many points. Wish the bears played at an indoor stadium, we'd be home and safe already :P Packers haven't lost an indoor game all season.
Current Superbowl odds: Green Bay 2.50 Pittsburgh 3.20 New York Jets 4.25 Chicago 5.25
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Ill put my money on Pittsburgh. Soft spot for GB though.
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I'm going for Green Bay for the remainder of the season, but I think that Pittsburgh will edge it in against them in the Bowl. I'm not sure, I'll have to tell you what I think after the Conference Championship games.
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LOL, just watched the replay of Jets-Patriots and the look on Brady's face in the last quarter was priceless.
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If the Packers make the Super Bowl they will win.
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buddha69 wrote:If the Packers make the Super Bowl they will win. Spot on. Especially as it's in Arlington. Rodgers loves indoors
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ausmojo wrote:buddha69 wrote:If the Packers make the Super Bowl they will win. Spot on. Especially as it's in Arlington. Rodgers loves indoors That was my exact reasoning
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ausmojo wrote:buddha69 wrote:If the Packers make the Super Bowl they will win. Spot on. Especially as it's in Arlington. Rodgers loves indoors This. He hasn't lost an indoor game since the start of last season. He's just SO accurate, when there's no outside influences there's little that can go wrong. Pity Chicago's home ground is open to the elements. Pittsburg have a good side, Roethlisberger is very talented and a constant threat, and Arnaz Battle has been a good pick-up for them this season. But if Sanchez and Holmes continue their form there's going to be little that can stop them. I'm backing a Packers v Jets Superbowl.
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afromanGT wrote:I'm backing a Packers v Jets Superbowl. It's the matchup I want to see. Besides I think the Packers match up to the Jets pretty well, while Pittsburgh are big match specialists. But I am getting a little ahead of myself. Packers-Bears will be epic. Here’s hoping things go to plan. The defence puts pressure on Cutler, so that he reverts to form and self-destructs, and the offence holds onto the ball. The Bears love forcing turnovers.
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The Packers should put a roof over Lambeau.
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Quote:The Packers should put a roof over Lambeau. Stadium is too big. They'd have to do a complete rebuild. Quote:But I am getting a little ahead of myself. Packers-Bears will be epic. Here’s hoping things go to plan. The defence puts pressure on Cutler, so that he reverts to form and self-destructs, and the offence holds onto the ball. The Bears love forcing turnovers. We lost to the bears in Chicago in week 3, 20-17. But we were still reeeling from the loss of our first week starters and the team hadn't clicket yet. We weren't in the form we're in now. Our defence was terrible in that game, Cutler threw for half the completions that Rodgers did. When the pressure was on in week 16, Cutler didn't really turn up at all, he only threw 168 yards. I think if Matthews or Woodson can nail Cutler early then he'll drop back more and more and hav a quiet game. Packers' biggest problem is going to be over-confidence after we beat the Falcons so convincingly.
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buddha69 wrote:The Packers should put a roof over Lambeau. That's holy ground my friend. Leave it alone!:lol: Having been there, it's an awesome place to watch football. And you may not know, it's the only stadium, anywhere in the world, built specifically and soley for American Football.
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Quote:Having been there, it's an awesome place to watch football. And you may not know, it's the only stadium, anywhere in the world, built specifically and soley for American Football. Fairly sure Cowboys Stadium is soley for the football. You'll also find that Arrowhead stadium is as well. Until this season, Lincoln Field was only used for American Football. And that's just three off the top of my head. Jus' Sayin'.
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afromanGT wrote:Quote:Having been there, it's an awesome place to watch football. And you may not know, it's the only stadium, anywhere in the world, built specifically and soley for American Football. Fairly sure Cowboys Stadium is soley for the football. You'll also find that Arrowhead stadium is as well. Until this season, Lincoln Field was only used for American Football. And that's just three off the top of my search engine. Jus' Sayin'.
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Most modern stadiums are multi purpose. They can't make money just being used on 8 Sundays per year. Part of the Packers revival was the mid 90's makeover that added floorspace for conventions, as well as resturants and the Packers Hall of Fame to try and make it a year round attraction. I think you'll find Cowboys Stadium was also configured to host the college basketball 'Final Four' and IIRC Arrowhead has been used by the Wizards in the MLS. The actual field at Lambeau is too narrow for soccer football or rugby. It is the only stadium conceived and built soley for NFL.
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Onto the Jets now, hoping for a Packers-Jets Bowl. Also Im hoping to go to America in December/January and a mate of mine may have tickets for us to go to the Pinstripe Bowl, so pumped. Doing a 2 month road trip of the States, hoping to get to as many graounds as humanly possible, most importantly being LP Field.
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Actually, avy, I was going from memory. Packers have played at both those stadiums in pre-season. f1worldchamp wrote:Most modern stadiums are multi purpose. They can't make money just being used on 8 Sundays per year. Part of the Packers revival was the mid 90's makeover that added floorspace for conventions, as well as resturants and the Packers Hall of Fame to try and make it a year round attraction. I think you'll find Cowboys Stadium was also configured to host the college basketball 'Final Four' and IIRC Arrowhead has been used by the Wizards in the MLS. The actual field at Lambeau is too narrow for soccer football or rugby. It is the only stadium conceived and built soley for NFL. LAmbeau field is the only stadium that was built AT THE TIME for Football as its sole purpose. It gets used for ice-hockey as well. Cowboys stadium is generally not used for basketball because of the work involved in setting it up. The 'final four' won't be hosted there until 2014. I dunno why Sporting Kansas (what is with american teams changing their names?!) played at Arrowhead Stadium, there's a series of stadiums in that complex that they could have played in that are cheaper to run and don't have a capacity of 60,000 odd. Just to satisfy avy I actually googled and the Cards are the only sporting team to play at UoP Stadium. They use it for concerts and dick all else. Since renovation, FedEx Field is soley used by the Redskins.
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Man you can be pedantic sometimes. My point was that Lambeau was built with one only one purpose in mind. It's a cathedral of football. Modern stadiums are by necessity multi purpose. So Cowboy stadium wont host the Final Four till 2014, the point is those kind of events are taken into account when planning the stadium. I'm sure UoP Stadium would be capable of it as well. For Lambeau it was football and football only. IIRC, the ice hockey game you mentioned was a one off. You can hardly say it's 'used for hockey as well'. They've had one off other events as well, like snowmobile racing and the odd concert (the last concert was in 1985), but both were stopped because of the effect they had on the playing surface. That's right, stadium owners refusing other events in an effort to keep the surface pristine for the real purpose, football. We could use people like that here.
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Nah, the Ice-Hockey games were played there regularly until 06 when the ice cracked mid-match.
The stadium benefits from being owned by the local government and as such running costs are budgeted for and the ground isn't run as a commercial venture or as a third party business and therefore can refuse business as it pleases. It still astounds me that in a leaguea s commercial as the NFL Green Bay have maintained their community ownership.
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Joffa, you may or may not have noticed that NFL =/= NRL.
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afromanGT wrote:Joffa, you may or may not have noticed that NFL =/= NRL. Woops. My bad cheers#-o
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Aaron Rodgers opens with a 7 play 84 yard opening drive for a touchdown. Incredible start. Some big plays being attempted early by both teams early.
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Urlacher has been absolutely epic for Chicago. Unfortuately Cutler is out for the rest of the game, they've switched to their third choice QB now and they're running the ball.
Aaron Rodgers isn't getting any protection in the second half, it's frustrating to watch on that front. GB giving away too many penalties for silly little things but still lead 14-0.
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Aaaahhhh Packers up 21-14 with 3mins to go. Bears have put up 14 in the last 1/4. So many chances to put this one away and we're letting 'em back in!
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FUCK YEAH!!! PACKERS ARE THROUGH TO THE SUPERBOWL!!!! NFC CHAMPIONS!
Very, very average game from Aaron Rodgers, he struggled to take his chances and struggled to complete in the second half. We probably suffered from a lack of offensive cover after Chad Clifton went off in the second quarter. Otherwise it could have been as one-sided as the Falcons game.
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PACKERS IN THE SUPERBOWL! YEEEEEEHAAAAAA! OMFG I thought we'd given them too much time in the end there. Best thing about this team is the defence can step up when the offence has an off day. Can't be beaten by a 3rd string QB!
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Packers to win the superbowl.
Hopefully they play the Jets. Would like to see Jason Taylor make a superbowl
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Sensational interception at a dire point there. Jeezus that was close. You almost wonder why they didn't start Hanie the way Cutler was playing :lol: People keep raving about him, but every time I see him play he plays like arse.
So...who gets to play the packers? Steelers or Jets? I'm backing the Jets if Sanchez shows up.
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Worth noting that in the last 10 years there have been 10 different NFC champions and just 4 different AFC champions.
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Congrats Packers Fans.
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This is going to be a Steelers blow-out. Sanchez is getting monstered, he's picked up a knock. He's 3 and out three times now and Jets have gained a whole 32 yards.
Jets are down 24-0 at the half. Doesn't look good for Jets fans. How on earth did they beat the pats?!
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Damn. I'd prefer to meet the Jets in the Superbowl. The Steelers have a lot of big game experience to draw on, and the Pack will field a few rookies who could let the occasion get to them. Already told my boss I'm off that day, it's gonna be huge either way.
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Pittsburgh V Green Bay Superbowl. Should be a good one.
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Sad the Pats got knocked out. Probably have to go for the Packers in the final.
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Fucking Steelers....
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Shaker wrote:Fucking Steelers.... \:d/
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Shaker wrote:Fucking Steelers.... Tb, blame Mark Sanchez. He had a shocker. How do you miss three downs from one yard? Quote:I'd prefer to meet the Jets in the Superbowl. The Steelers have a lot of big game experience to draw on, and the Pack will field a few rookies who could let the occasion get to them. I hear that. Steelers have an epic running game and a very strong defensive front line. Hopefully there isn't much to Chad Clifton's injury and he's alright to play after a fortnight of rest. I dunno about the inexperience factor for the packers...Guys like Matthews, Stark, Raji and Lang are young, but they have cool heads on their shoulders. And when you've got guys like Rodgers and Clifton calling the shots there's always a chance of things turning out like the Falcons game. That said, Steelers have a very strong post big-game team and move the ball very well along the ground and our defence are going to get a real work out from their running game. It's worth noting that the last time the Packers met the Steelers, Pittsburgh won by 1 point at Heinz Stadium in '09, 36-37. We beat them by a point in 07, 17-16. In '05 they won by 10 points. Those are the only 3 times the two sides have met since 2000. So if the trend is anything to go by, it's going to be close and it's our turn to win :lol:
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It'll be close, and I hope we can come out on top. It's such a big deal these days it's almost better not to make the SB than to make it and lose! I like the way Dom Capers has been chaning up the defence, keeping the opposition guessing. Hopefully the front will hold and force Big Ben into throwing more than he wants to.
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I think our biggest problem will be AJ Hawk tbh. He was the culprit of two false starts and a holding penalty against the bears. He needs to get his head in the right space. Dom Capers' work has been excellent, especially the rotating of Woodson and Jennings in and out of the defensive line. Throwing Jennings in there confused the shit out of them and got us two sackings which was brilliant.
Have we got confirmation of whether the stadium roof will stay closed or be opened?
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afromanGT wrote:Have we got confirmation of whether the stadium roof will stay closed or be opened? It'll be closed
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That's another win for Aaron Rodgers :D
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Packers for the Super Bowl
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For the Packer fans: Mmm, emdedding didn't seem to work http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWEh4YCzqQwEdited by f1worldchamp: 29/1/2011 02:37:25 PM
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Bikini girls ftw.
Clay Matthews taking out your quarterback makes me jizz.
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FYI, OneHD will be showing the full US feed of Superbowl Sunday, 8 hours of it!
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Fuck yeah for commitment to the cause.
Counting down the days now. The Packers team departed for Dallas yesterday.
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Quote:DALLAS: Six people have been hurt by ice falling from the roof of Cowboys Stadium, the venue of Sunday's Super Bowl.
The six were taken to different hospitals and the two most seriously injured were in a stable condition, said Michael Signora, the NFL's vice-president of communications in a joint statement with the Arlington Fire Department.
''Melting ice and snow on the Cowboys Stadium roof slid onto several plaza areas earlier today,'' Signora said. ''The snow on the roof is in the process of being cleared away in preparation for Sunday's Super Bowl.''
It is understood most of the injured people were stadium workers.
The region has been hammered with back-to-back storms that brought ice and bone-chilling winds on Tuesday then dumped 15 centimetres of snow overnight on Friday.
The $US1.2 billion stadium, located just outside Dallas, is where the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Green Bay Packers will meet in the Super Bowl. Organisers are expecting to break the record crowd of 103,667 when Washington beat Miami in 1983 at the Rose Bowl in Pasadena, California http://www.smh.com.au/sport/stadium-ice-fall-injures-six-20110205-1ahle.html
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Quote:Super Bowl week tends to be a time for hyperbolic statements, so here is another: the 45th instalment of America's grandest sporting showpiece represents no less than a battle for the nation's soul. The confrontation - between the Pittsburgh Steelers, symbols of their coal dust-clogged city's pride with six Vince Lombardi Trophies, and the Green Bay Packers, the ''Cheeseheads'' of Wisconsin once coached by Lombardi himself - is as blue-collar as you could imagine.
When these two face off at Cowboys Stadium in Dallas on Sunday night (Monday morning, Sydney time), watched by 110,000 from the stands and a billion more on television, even the cheerleaders will be gone. In keeping with their proletarian image, the Steelers and Packers are among only six sports franchises in the National Football League to do without the glamorous pompom girls.
During his decade at Green Bay, Lombardi did introduce a dance troupe but insisted that its members wore longer skirts so as not to outrage Midwestern sensibilities. Pittsburgh have remained wedded to what a spokesman described as ''old-fashioned priorities''.
This is not to suggest the Steelers lack kudos. In an unseasonably snowbound north Texas, they go in search of a seventh Super Bowl title to cement their position as the most successful team in NFL history. Their merchandise sales outstripped those of every other team this season.
Still, they are difficult for the neutral to love. Ben Roethlisberger, tipping the scales at 108 kilograms, may be an unusually fearsome quarterback but he is a dubious ambassador.
His judgment was questioned first after a near-fatal motorcycle accident in 2006, when he was found not to have been wearing a helmet, but controversy engulfed him two years later as he battled two allegations of sexual assault.
Although charges were not filed in either case, the second, brought by a 20-year-old college student, triggered a four-match suspension.
Roethlisberger could join no less exalted company than Joe Montana, Troy Aikman and Tom Brady by capturing his third ring in Dallas, but will never command the same adoration. Similarly, head coach Mike Tomlin could emulate Lombardi, whose Packers won the first two Super Bowls in 1967-68, with his second triumph - even if he trails in the popularity stakes.
Attempting to draw sentiment from Tomlin, 38, about the size of the achievement in his grasp is a painful process. ''I'm a robot,'' he said when asked how the build-up was affecting him emotionally.
''I'm just going to ride the wave.'' It is a wave the Packers could find impossible to resist. http://www.smh.com.au/sport/pompoms-are-out-blue-collars-in-for-super-bowl-20110205-1ahld.html
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Quote:Recording of first Super Bowl game found 6 February 2011 By David Roth and Jared Diamond AMERICAN football fans know what happened in the first ever showdown between the NFL and AFL champions in Super Bowl I on January 15, 1967 - the Green Bay Packers stomped the Kansas City Chiefs, 35-10. But unless they were at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum that day or watched the game live on NBC or CBS, fans have never actually seen the game because a tape of the historic football match was not preserved by either TV network. All that survived of the broadcast is sideline footage shot by NFL Films and roughly 30 seconds of footage CBS included in a pre-game show for Super Bowl XXV. Somehow, the game seen by 26.8 million people had, for all intents and purposes, vanished - that is until now, The Wall Street Journal reported. HBO executive Rick Bernstein, who produced a two-part history of sports television in 1991, is one of many who have searched for a tape. He says his team chased numerous leads, from a reported copy in Cuba to rumours that Hugh Hefner might have recorded the game on a videotape machine in the Playboy Mansion. Nothing turned up. "It's the holy grail," Mr Bernstein said. The long search may finally be over though. The Paley Center for Media in New York, which had searched for the game footage for some time, has restored what it believes to be a genuine copy of the CBS broadcast. The 94-minute tape, which has never been shown to the public, was donated to the centre by its owner in return for having it restored. It was originally recorded on bulky two-inch video and had been stored in an attic in Pennsylvania for nearly 38 years, the Paley Center said. The two reels of two-inch quadruplex tape were warped and slightly beat up. To restore the recording, the Paley Center worked with a consultant with expertise in crude tape machines used to record them and hired New Jersey-based film preservation house Specs Bros to do the work. Ron Simon, a curator at the Paley Center, said the sequence of plays shown, the announcers and graphics that appear and the general look of the production leave no doubt that the tape is real. "I've seen faked games before, and this is not one," he said. The tape is not perfect though. The halftime show and a large chunk of the third quarter are missing. The person who recorded it skipped over some breaks in the action. The image pixelates on occasion, the sound quality varies and there are occasional eruptions of white static at the side of the screen. Regardless of the less than perfect quality, "this is one of the great finds...(it) is an amazing document," Mr Simon added. http://tools.geelongadvertiser.com.au/stories/45216181.php
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I'd be more impressed if they found a copy of the first NFL Game :lol:
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C'mon Packers! Day off, hot dogs, chicken wings, potato chips & beer. Bring on the Superbowl!
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Tip for the game? First TD? Turning point?
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f1worldchamp wrote:C'mon Packers! Day off, hot dogs, chicken wings, potato chips & beer. Bring on the Superbowl! I endorse this entire post. Not studying, toast with vegemite, Up & Go and Orange Juice. Bring on the Superbowl! :lol:
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dale1878 wrote:Tip for the game? First TD? Turning point? Packers to win First TD - Steelers Turning point: Steelers go up by 14 pts in the first quarter, but Roethlisberger gets sacked in a 4th down conversion attempt deep in his own territory and from then on Green Bay score a few TD's.
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dale1878 wrote:Tip for the game? First TD? Turning point? Tip: Packers First TD: Steelers Turning point: too close to call
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Tip: NFL is a boring sport First TD: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Turning point: When the half-time coverage starts and ends
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scouse_roar wrote:Tip: NFL is a boring sport First TD: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Turning point: When the half-time coverage starts and ends Why are you even here?
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Packers up 21-10 at the half, and will start with the ball in the 3rd quarter. I hope we can hold on, especially with 3 DB's injured.
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Quote:Super Bolw XLV fans turned away from Cowboys Stadium From: AP February 07, 2011 11:30AM AT least four hundred Super Bowl ticketholders have been turned away from Cowboys Stadium in Texas. About 1,250 fans in total were displaced from the match between the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Green Bay Packers, with 850 given alternative seats. The NFL said safety was the reason and promised a review. The NFL said the people relocated were put in “similar or better seats” in the stadium that officials had earlier boasted would house a Super Bowl record crowd. Those turned away will be given a refund of triple the face value. However, even $2,700 for $900 tickets may not be enough for those people who paid much more to scalpers, not to mention travel and hotel costs. AP http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/super-bolw-xlv-fans-turned-away-from-cowboys-stadium/story-e6frg7mf-1226001365172
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Maybe they hired the Qatari Organising Commitee to assist? :LOL:
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Packers 21-17 end of third.... gonna be a tense finish.
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Easy money :d
Love betting on the line !
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Suck it Steelers! Clay Matthews FTW!
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What a fucking game. Fantastic finish at the end there, geat pressure to earn the turnover. Absolutely fucking stoked. Still wearing my jersey :lol:
You could tell it was a massive turning point in the second quarter when Woodson went down injured. The bloke is a fucking star and was doing such a good job on Wallace. When he went out the Steelers started throwing the ball more and got back into the game.
But wow...Aaron Rodgers, stunning performance in the first half to set up the 21-3 lead and cool head at the end there to get the TD when it was needed.
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Wow, I'm still on a high. An unbelievable game, I was so sure the Steelers would come back at the end. I thought they were left with too much time. But the defence held and I went nuts in the living room. :LOL: Wasn't wearing my jersey afro, it has a '4' on it so I won't be wearing it again any time soon. How good was Rodgers? Going back to Nelson on the final drive right after he'd dropped one was amazing. Packers had the 2nd youngest team in the league this year, let's hope this is the first of many for this group.
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Quote:Wasn't wearing my jersey afro, it has a '4' on it so I won't be wearing it again any time soon. :lol: unlucky. Tbh, I'd burn it. Post the video on youtube and buy a new one. That was a ballsey move, going back to Nelson. Two plays down the right for Nelson and he goes for a third but Nelson's cut up the inside and left Jones completely unmarket. Great call. Clay Matthews' spying was great too. Really unsettled Roethlisberger on that final drive for Steelers. How good was Frank Zombo? Two sacks, an assist and 9 tackles! When I look at the young lads at the club this season who have been fantastic - guys like Starks, Zombo, Quarless, Matthews, Raji, Mathsay...the team looks really good going into the next two or three seasons. Even guys like Rodgers, Crosby, Jones, Jennings, Hawk and Lang are only in their mid-20's. The next three or four years could be VERY exciting for the Packers. The only real question is, how long can guys like Charles Woodson and Donald Driver keep going? And even then, when you consider some of the performances turned out this season with numerous big names being out injured... Edited by afromanGT: 9/2/2011 04:26:07 PM
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Yeah, when I was in Green Bay in '03 I was going to get a Driver jersey, but for whatever reason I didn't. Still, i spent 400 US in the Packer Pro Shop anyway. Both Driver and Woodson have maybe 1 or 2 years left in them. The problem with these backups proving themselves is they might now be offered the chance to start elsewhere.
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I think Zombo, Quarless, Matthews and Raji wil all be starting next season. Crosby might be used as trade bait in order to find a replacement for Woodson so he'll stay for a season or two more, Lang might move on...but that's about all.
Driver will probably call it quits next season, but that's fine when you've got Nelson and Jennings already and will probably go for another reciever in the draft. How is the draft order worked out?
Also...Vick is a free agent for the coming season.
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afromanGT wrote: How is the draft order worked out? Picks 1-30 go by the win/loss record of the year before, with the same tie breaker as the playoffs. 31 and 32 are the Superbowl loser and winner respectively. Edited by f1worldchamp: 9/2/2011 06:56:48 PM
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There's a lot of talk about Jono Baldwin and AJ Green in the Wide Reciever position....I haven't really looked to see who's aiming for what yet though. AJ Green has a lot of promise from what I've heard. There's no local lads in the first round nominees either.
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Did a bit of reading, apparently we want to replace Chad Clifton in offensive tackle and will go for Jason Pinkston or Anthony Castonzo. I don't know how accurate that is.
I really hope that we pick up a wide reciever to play understudy for Donald Driver, especially if we fail to hold on to James Jones.
There's a lot of key position players with contracts expiring. Jones, Kuhn, Peprah, Colledge and Crosby are all free agents. Hopefully we can hang onto them.
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afromanGT wrote:There's a lot of talk about Jono Baldwin and AJ Green in the Wide Reciever position....I haven't really looked to see who's aiming for what yet though. AJ Green has a lot of promise from what I've heard. There's no local lads in the first round nominees either. Bengals are the highest team who need a WR, ive got: 1. Nick Fairley DT (Panthers) 2. Patrick Peterson CB (Broncos) 3. DeQuan Bowers DE (Bills) 4. AJ Green WR (Bengals) 5. Blaine Gabbert QB (Cardinals) 6. Prince Amukamara CB (Browns) 7. Cam Newton QB (49ers) 8. Von Miller LB (Titans) 9. Cameron Heywood DT (Cowboys) 10. Ryan Mallett QB (Redskins)
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The mock draft I found on NFL forums has: 1. Carolina Panthers: Nick Fairley, DT, 2. Denver Broncos: Da'Quan Bowers, DE, 3. Buffalo Bills: Patrick Peterson, CB, 4. Cincinnati Bengals: A.J. Green, WR 5. Arizona Cardinals: Von Miller, DE/OLB, 6. Cleveland Browns: Robert Quinn, DE, 7. San Francisco 49ers: Marcell Dareus, DE/DT 8. Tennessee Titans: Blaine Gabbert, QB, 9. Dallas Cowboys: Prince Amukamara, CB 10. Washington Redskins: Cameron Jordan, DE/DT 11. Houston Texans: Aldon Smith, DE/OLB 12. Minnesota Vikings: Cam Newton, QB, 13. Detroit Lions: Nate Solder, OT 14. St. Louis Rams: Julio Jones, WR 15. Miami Dolphins: Mark Ingram, RB 16. Jacksonville Jaguars: Ryan Kerrigan, DE 17. New England Patriots: Tyron Smith, OT 18. San Diego Chargers: Corey Liuget, DE/DT 19. New York Giants: Akeem Ayers, OLB 20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Adrian Clayborn, DE 21. Kansas City Chiefs: Phil Taylor, NT, 22. Indianapolis Colts: Gabe Carimi, OT, 23. Philadelphia Eagles: Derek Sherrod, OT 24. New Orleans Saints: J.J. Watt, DE 25. Seattle Seahawks: Jimmy Smith, CB 26. Baltimore Ravens: Titus Young, WR 27. Atlanta Falcons: Torrey Smith, WR 28. New England Patriots: Justin Houston, DE/OLB, 29. Chicago Bears: Mike Pouncey, G, 30. New York Jets: Muhammad Wilkerson, DE/DT 31. Pittsburgh Steelers: Brandon Harris, CB 32. Green Bay Packers: Anthony Castonzo, OT
The general concensus is that AJ Green will be picked up early, probably by Bengals and that Titans and Vikings are looking for QB's. I'll be interested to see where Julio Jones ends up too. Been hearing a lot about him. I'll be surprised if Brandon Harris actually ends up at Steelers, they don't really put a lot of emphasis on that position and they'll probably aim for someone who can play RB or maybe pick him up as trade bait.
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afromanGT wrote:The mock draft I found on NFL forums has: 1. Carolina Panthers: Nick Fairley, DT, 2. Denver Broncos: Da'Quan Bowers, DE, 3. Buffalo Bills: Patrick Peterson, CB, 4. Cincinnati Bengals: A.J. Green, WR 5. Arizona Cardinals: Von Miller, DE/OLB, 6. Cleveland Browns: Robert Quinn, DE, 7. San Francisco 49ers: Marcell Dareus, DE/DT 8. Tennessee Titans: Blaine Gabbert, QB, 9. Dallas Cowboys: Prince Amukamara, CB 10. Washington Redskins: Cameron Jordan, DE/DT 11. Houston Texans: Aldon Smith, DE/OLB 12. Minnesota Vikings: Cam Newton, QB, 13. Detroit Lions: Nate Solder, OT 14. St. Louis Rams: Julio Jones, WR 15. Miami Dolphins: Mark Ingram, RB 16. Jacksonville Jaguars: Ryan Kerrigan, DE 17. New England Patriots: Tyron Smith, OT 18. San Diego Chargers: Corey Liuget, DE/DT 19. New York Giants: Akeem Ayers, OLB 20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Adrian Clayborn, DE 21. Kansas City Chiefs: Phil Taylor, NT, 22. Indianapolis Colts: Gabe Carimi, OT, 23. Philadelphia Eagles: Derek Sherrod, OT 24. New Orleans Saints: J.J. Watt, DE 25. Seattle Seahawks: Jimmy Smith, CB 26. Baltimore Ravens: Titus Young, WR 27. Atlanta Falcons: Torrey Smith, WR 28. New England Patriots: Justin Houston, DE/OLB, 29. Chicago Bears: Mike Pouncey, G, 30. New York Jets: Muhammad Wilkerson, DE/DT 31. Pittsburgh Steelers: Brandon Harris, CB 32. Green Bay Packers: Anthony Castonzo, OT
The general concensus is that AJ Green will be picked up early, probably by Bengals and that Titans and Vikings are looking for QB's. I'll be interested to see where Julio Jones ends up too. Been hearing a lot about him. I'll be surprised if Brandon Harris actually ends up at Steelers, they don't really put a lot of emphasis on that position and they'll probably aim for someone who can play RB or maybe pick him up as trade bait. Cant see us aka Tennessee, drafting a QB. But usually when you get a new coach more often than not they get a new QB, im hoping we trade for a Kolb or Flynn or McNabb.
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If there's one thing for sure, the actual draft will turn out absolutley nothing like anyone's mock draft. Players make a name for themselves at the scouting combine, or go backwards. Or like when Rodgers ended up at the Packers, other teams passed and the Pack picked him up even though they had no plan to draft a QB at the time.
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I'm thinking we're more likely to go for a wide reciever than OT. We'll only take an OT if Jones and Green are both snapped up. And I don't think that the Rams are going to go for a reciever. Hopefully AJ Green can slip through the cracks like Rodgers did. We might go for Marcus Ingram to boost the hands team. Quote:Cant see us aka Tennessee, drafting a QB. But usually when you get a new coach more often than not they get a new QB, im hoping we trade for a Kolb or Flynn or McNabb. I doubt you'll be able to trade for Flynn. He'll want to go, but Titans can't offer any players that we actually need. Their few strengths are in areas that we already have a lot of depth in. Kevin Kolb is a possibility though.
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afromanGT wrote:Quote:Cant see us aka Tennessee, drafting a QB. But usually when you get a new coach more often than not they get a new QB, im hoping we trade for a Kolb or Flynn or McNabb. I doubt you'll be able to trade for Flynn. He'll want to go, but Titans can't offer any players that we actually need. I'd take Chris Johnson!\:d/
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I'd probably take him too, but is it worth giving up a fairly competent back-up QB for? Especially when we've already got quality RB's in Grant and Starks. Starks > Johnson.
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Johnson has the runs on the board. If Flynn is going to go, I'd want as much for him as if we were losing a starting QB, which he will be on whatever team he ends up on.
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The thing with letting Flynn go is that we don't have a competent replacement. Harrell has never played a senior game.
I'd want Johnson and a first round draft pick for Flynn.
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No-one knew if Flynn could do the job till he stepped up vs. New England. There's no way to know if Harrell is ready till he gets a shot. There is no way Tennesee would give up Johnson and a first round pick. If anything, the first round pick is worth more than Johnson. Besides, it's a trade that won't happen anyway. Odds are Flynn stays till his contract is up and he leaves as a free agent.
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afromanGT wrote:The thing with letting Flynn go is that we don't have a competent replacement. Harrell has never played a senior game.
I'd want Johnson and a first round draft pick for Flynn. Not a chance, thats crazy. A top RB and a 1st rounder, id want Aaron Rodgers and your first rounder in return. Johnson will be a one team man for his career.
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Quote:Not a chance, thats crazy. A top RB and a 1st rounder, id want Aaron Rodgers and your first rounder in return. You'd want statistically the best quarterback in history in exchange for Johnson? You're fucking mad. Come back when he's the best running back in history and we'll talk. Quote:Odds are Flynn stays till his contract is up and he leaves as a free agent. Flynn could be starting QB at just about any other team in the league (other than Steelers, Eagles and Pats)...wouldn't surprise me if he asked to be traded.
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Just quickly, old news now which I actually only found out today because I forgot about it, but Brady won the MVP award unanimously, the first player to do so. That is, he collected 50 out of a possible 50 votes. Superb.
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Benjo wrote:Just quickly, old news now which I actually only found out today because I forgot about it, but Brady won the MVP award unanimously, the first player to do so. That is, he collected 50 out of a possible 50 votes. Superb. That's quite an achievement. Not surprised he won it, but I can't believe he won it unanimously. 111.0 passer rating for the season is pretty epic. That dropping to 85 in the post-season says it all.
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afromanGT wrote:Quote:Not a chance, thats crazy. A top RB and a 1st rounder, id want Aaron Rodgers and your first rounder in return. You'd want statistically the best quarterback in history in exchange for Johnson? You're fucking mad. Come back when he's the best running back in history and we'll talk. Quote:Odds are Flynn stays till his contract is up and he leaves as a free agent. Flynn could be starting QB at just about any other team in the league (other than Steelers, Eagles and Pats)...wouldn't surprise me if he asked to be traded. He might be "Statisticly" the best QB in History but your comparing that to guys who have had between 10-20 season, averages are bound to go down. He is a good QB though, no denying. Gonna have to wait and see what we do, new coaching set up, all new Head Coach, OFF and DEF coordinators as well. Interested to see what we do.
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You look at guys like Jordy Nelson and Greg Jennings, I think he'll continue to perform at a high average for the next few seasons.
I wish we'd hurry up and re-sign John Kuhn for next season.
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John Kuhn has re-signed for Packers.
Latest reports with Fevola are that he's going over to america to try out for the San Diego Chargers. I lol'd quite a lot. He doesn't have the consistency of length to succeed as a punter. That said, Chargers' punter is fair shit.
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San Diego is going to get tired of Aussie punters soon if thats true. Anthony Rocca fucked it up, Nick Davis made a right cock of himself and they wont care about fevolas history cause he'll be too far off the mark for any consideration. All these 3 have fucked it up at SDC. Just burning the bridge for all the future aussies who want to go over and have a crack.
To make it worse hes going over while all the shit is happening surrounding the cba.
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None of those players made it past a trial, just like thousands of other players don't make it past trials. I wouldn't say they're any different or counting against Australians going over there to have a crack. It really shouldn't be as hard to knock off Scifres as it has been at SD.
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If youre australian and an AFL player who comes with a big reputation despite never playing a game before and you fuck up then you also mess it up for the guys coming after you. thats just how it works. americans are extremely ignorant, give them a good package though and theyll take it. feed them shit 3 times straight and theyll tell you to stop wasting their fucking time.
Brendan Fevola has probably kicked 10 balls in his life. He shouldnt be allowed to trial. He'd probably shank 9/10 kicks at the moment when an NFL punter would get sacked if he kicked 9/10 spirals.
scifres is the best punter the chargers have ever had. Hes a 3x pro bowl player and has the biggest leg in the world! Hes the best punter in the NFL. the best punters play for the worst teams because the worst teams are the teams that need to punt more often.
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NFL scouts are far from ignorant. They're very switched on and know exactly what is required in order to succeed as an NFL punter. They're fully aware that these players were successful at AFL, they're also fully aware that it doesn't necessarily convert to being a successful NFL punter. Fevola doesn't have the consistency of length to succeed as a punter in the NFL the way Rocca did. It's a big ask to be able to land the punt in a one-yard square time and again from varying field position. Quote:Hes a 3x pro bowl player He's a 3x pro-bowl alternate, making him third choice for the pro-bowl. He's never actually played a pro-bowl game. And Shane Lechler was picked ahead of him the last four seasons.
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Don't forget the Chargers had former AFL'er Darren Bennett as their punter for a long time, which is probably why they are more willing to give Aussie's a go. They know if the guy comes from AFL he's already got some of what they are looking for. They aren't going to stop looking at guys just because a couple didn't pan out.
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That's the thing with AFL players, you can draft in an effectively ready made player who has the 'big game' experience and even at their mid-thirties AFL retirement age you can still get up to 10 years of punting out of them. It's a promising option for them. That said, most AFL plaers punt like Fevola and Davis and guys like Rocca are dying out rapidly.
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afromanGT wrote:NFL scouts are far from ignorant. They're very switched on and know exactly what is required in order to succeed as an NFL punter. They're fully aware that these players were successful at AFL, they're also fully aware that it doesn't necessarily convert to being a successful NFL punter. Fevola doesn't have the consistency of length to succeed as a punter in the NFL the way Rocca did. It's a big ask to be able to land the punt in a one-yard square time and again from varying field position. Quote:Hes a 3x pro bowl player He's a 3x pro-bowl alternate, making him third choice for the pro-bowl. He's never actually played a pro-bowl game. And Shane Lechler was picked ahead of him the last four seasons. I'd say he's had the most work of any punter in the entire league over the last 4 seasons that's why ! :-s (Note: no checking of statistics was done, opinion purely based on Oakland being shit)
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lechler is their only hope at getting decent field position. they also have a good kicker for basically the same reason. they wont get close enough to score a touchdown.
Rocca isnt even that great.
As far as Fevola is concerned it really pisses me off. Afro can you stop talking about Fevola like hes actually a punter. If he does trial he will be an AFL player trying to kick spirals. He is not a punter. He will not get the job. Nick Davis could call himself a punter cause he kinda had an idea what he was doing but Fevola, no. Just no. Its a disgrace and he will disgrace himself. Anyway whats your source on Fev and the chargers apart from Darren bennett a few weeks ago saying he has a tiny chance?
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ausmojo wrote:I'd say he's had the most work of any punter in the entire league over the last 4 seasons that's why ! :-s (Note: no checking of statistics was done, opinion purely based on Oakland being shit) 84.5 passer rating from their QB isn't bad, but he only completed 59% this season. So it's not bad... It's just not that good :lol:
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Bonkers wrote:lechler is their only hope at getting decent field position. they also have a good kicker for basically the same reason. they wont get close enough to score a touchdown.
Rocca isnt even that great.
As far as Fevola is concerned it really pisses me off. Afro can you stop talking about Fevola like hes actually a punter. If he does trial he will be an AFL player trying to kick spirals. He is not a punter. He will not get the job. Nick Davis could call himself a punter cause he kinda had an idea what he was doing but Fevola, no. Just no. Its a disgrace and he will disgrace himself. Anyway whats your source on Fev and the chargers apart from Darren bennett a few weeks ago saying he has a tiny chance? Where have I talked about Fev like he's already a punter? I've said he wouldn't get picked up because he doesn't have what's required of him. Rocca is a quality punter. He holds the record for third longest successful punt of all time. He's not going to go down as an all-time great punter like Steve O'Neal, but he's still one of the better punts in the league. Up there with Mathsay and Mesko. Jason Campbell threw for 13 TD's for the Raiders. In a side with no front row what so ever that's a good return. If anything that amkes Lechler better beign able to deal with the pressure of being the only guy to stem the deluge. You've got to remember that the Raiders still won 8 games last season.
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Its not about how long you can punt its about how well you can kick to your coverage.
Masthay is crap too.
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Mathsay is quality, it's the hands team that let him down. The blokers on the hands team don't have the pace to give the return adequate coverage. If Rodgers wasn't such an awesome QB we'd be fucked.
Being a punter is about getting maximum yardage while still being able to land your punt on an area the size of a midget in a hoola hoop.
Mathsay had one of the best punt records from the 2010 season. And when you've got a QB throwing 101.2, that's a mean effort.
This has been eating at me all day, what's it called when the punting team rebounds the ball short and tries to reclaim possession on the 10 yard line? Chicago tried it against Packers in the NFC title game and fluffed it and I can't think what the play was called.
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Bonkers wrote:Fevola like hes actually a punter. If he does trial he will be an AFL player trying to kick spirals. ? I remember hearing somewhere that one of the reasons AFL players kept getting looked at by NFL scouts was that they don't kick spirals. Apparently the yanks aren't used to the end over end action of a typical AFL kicker and the return man is more likely to fumble when trying to catch a ball spinning end over.
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f1worldchamp wrote:Bonkers wrote:Fevola like hes actually a punter. If he does trial he will be an AFL player trying to kick spirals. ? I remember hearing somewhere that one of the reasons AFL players kept getting looked at by NFL scouts was that they don't kick spirals. Apparently the yanks aren't used to the end over end action of a typical AFL kicker and the return man is more likely to fumble when trying to catch a ball spinning end over. That was one of the reasons that the Eagles liked Rocca, because his punts corkscrewed through the air. Thus making them very difficult to read and catch so the return was more difficult. Eagles conceded the second least punt return yards this season.
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afromanGT wrote:Mathsay is quality, it's the hands team that let him down. The blokers on the hands team don't have the pace to give the return adequate coverage. If Rodgers wasn't such an awesome QB we'd be fucked.
Being a punter is about getting maximum yardage while still being able to land your punt on an area the size of a midget in a hoola hoop.
Mathsay had one of the best punt records from the 2010 season. And when you've got a QB throwing 101.2, that's a mean effort.
This has been eating at me all day, what's it called when the punting team rebounds the ball short and tries to reclaim possession on the 10 yard line? Chicago tried it against Packers in the NFC title game and fluffed it and I can't think what the play was called. The hands team is the team thats put on to minimise the chances of an effective onside kick... not exactly your punt return team. Not entirely. Punting is about giving the ball enough hang time to allow your teammates to recover it or to allow a fair catch, etc. To deny get as close to the endzone as possible and not allow the return team to gain good field position. The goal is inside 20. If you kick it too long and for not enough hang time you give a guy who can run 100m in just over 10 seconds and with the agility of a cat a 20m head start on all your guys. Youre fucked. Its masthays technique that lets him down. And its rodgers ability that has him wearing a superbowl ring. Dont know what that play is. Sounds like an onside kick but thats from a kick off. You cant reclaim the ball after a punt unless the returning team fumbles it. f1worldchamp wrote:Bonkers wrote:Fevola like hes actually a punter. If he does trial he will be an AFL player trying to kick spirals. ? I remember hearing somewhere that one of the reasons AFL players kept getting looked at by NFL scouts was that they don't kick spirals. Apparently the yanks aren't used to the end over end action of a typical AFL kicker and the return man is more likely to fumble when trying to catch a ball spinning end over. They will need to kick a spiral in the wind and if theyre ever punting from their own half - ie. nearly every single punt. They can however use the drop punt for directional punting to make the ball go out inside the 20 yard line. NFL scouts like that kick cause its more accurate. American players are starting to pick it up now to use for directional punts. Green Bays Masthay for instance taught himself how to use it after he saw Chris Byran (aussie) do it in pre-season camp. Majority of punts though require a spiral because its works in weather that isnt ideal and gets more distance and hang.
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Bonkers wrote:NFL scouts like that kick cause its more accurate. American players are starting to pick it up now to use for directional punts. Green Bays Masthay for instance taught himself how to use it after he saw Chris Byran (aussie) do it in pre-season camp. Majority of punts though require a spiral because its works in weather that isnt ideal and gets more distance and hang. So now the Aussie's taught them how to do it, they don't need them anymore? :lol:
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Lockout :roll:
No player can come under scrutiny for off field offences at the moment. This could get ugly !
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f1worldchamp wrote:Bonkers wrote:NFL scouts like that kick cause its more accurate. American players are starting to pick it up now to use for directional punts. Green Bays Masthay for instance taught himself how to use it after he saw Chris Byran (aussie) do it in pre-season camp. Majority of punts though require a spiral because its works in weather that isnt ideal and gets more distance and hang. So now the Aussie's taught them how to do it, they don't need them anymore? :lol: exactly. and they might get aussies in to camps just to kick end-over-end to the punt returners for practice. They might have trouble catching them now but look how easy it is to catch a drop punt for an AFL player.
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Bonkers wrote:f1worldchamp wrote:Bonkers wrote:NFL scouts like that kick cause its more accurate. American players are starting to pick it up now to use for directional punts. Green Bays Masthay for instance taught himself how to use it after he saw Chris Byran (aussie) do it in pre-season camp. Majority of punts though require a spiral because its works in weather that isnt ideal and gets more distance and hang. So now the Aussie's taught them how to do it, they don't need them anymore? :lol: exactly. and they might get aussies in to camps just to kick end-over-end to the punt returners for practice. They might have trouble catching them now but look how easy it is to catch a drop punt for an AFL player. I'm not expert on AFL, but I don't see hem catch on the chest very often, which is what NFL kick returners do.
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f1worldchamp wrote:Bonkers wrote:f1worldchamp wrote:Bonkers wrote:NFL scouts like that kick cause its more accurate. American players are starting to pick it up now to use for directional punts. Green Bays Masthay for instance taught himself how to use it after he saw Chris Byran (aussie) do it in pre-season camp. Majority of punts though require a spiral because its works in weather that isnt ideal and gets more distance and hang. So now the Aussie's taught them how to do it, they don't need them anymore? :lol: exactly. and they might get aussies in to camps just to kick end-over-end to the punt returners for practice. They might have trouble catching them now but look how easy it is to catch a drop punt for an AFL player. I'm not expert on AFL, but I don't see hem catch on the chest very often, which is what NFL kick returners do. Forwards in AFL usually catch it on the chest on the run with a guy right up there arse. They also catch it on their chest if theyre uncontested. But really what do you think is easier/more assured, catching it on their chest or catching it above their head? chest.
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I think we may have got wires crossed here, the point I was trying to make is maybe kick returners may have to learn to catch with their hands, AFL style, rather than with their chest. Quote:look how easy it is to catch a drop punt for an AFL player. I assumed you meant cause AFL catch with their hands. Don't forget the NFL pads have an affect on catching as well. Chest catches are more likely to bounce off, and it impacts raising your arms over your head.
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fuck youre complicating it. returners do drills where they catch up to 8 balls without putting the last one down. so they end up with 8 balls in their arms and none on teh ground at the end of the drill. Catching one end over end on the chest is a walk in the park unless you havent seen it before. Show them in training though and its as easy as catching a spiral (which for afl players is probably harder cause theyre rare!)
AFL has a chestmark.
At the end of the day an end over end kick is not enough to get a job. You need to be able to kick spirals every time.
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Quote:The hands team is the team thats put on to minimise the chances of an effective onside kick... not exactly your punt return team. The Hands team are generally used by both because they've got the pace to cover the field, unlike many of their defensive numbers - and they've still got the ability to recover. We see a lot of our running backs out on the field in that scenario. Mind you, that's largely because John Kuhn is a star. Quote:Not entirely. Punting is about giving the ball enough hang time to allow your teammates to recover it or to allow a fair catch, etc. To deny get as close to the endzone as possible and not allow the return team to gain good field position. The goal is inside 20. If you kick it too long and for not enough hang time you give a guy who can run 100m in just over 10 seconds and with the agility of a cat a 20m head start on all your guys. Youre fucked. If you can punt to a Coffin Corner consistently, you're going to get the nod above most. Sure, you want to get the hang, but you've got to land it in the right area and stop it from toppling end over end into touchback. Anywhere in that coffin zone (last 5 yards) is ideal. Quote:No player can come under scrutiny for off field offences at the moment. This could get ugly ! I don't like where this is heading. They'd better come up wtih an agreement before August. Quote:Show them in training though and its as easy as catching a spiral (which for afl players is probably harder cause theyre rare!) At the end of the day, they're going to learn how to catch it one way or another.
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Quote:[size=6] NFL star Ochocinco to take part in MLS trial [/size] MIAMI - Chad Ochocinco, one of the NFL's top wide-receivers, will have a trial with Major League Soccer's Sporting Kansas City next week, the team said on Wednesday. Six-time Pro Bowl selection Ochocinco, who plays for the Cincinnati Bengals, responded to news of the NFL's lockout of players on Saturday by suggesting on Twitter he would like to switch sports and play for Sporting. The team have responded by inviting him for a four-day trial starting on Tuesday. "Due to the NFL lockout I am excited to be able to follow my childhood dream of playing for a Major League Soccer team," the 33-year-old said in a statement released by Sporting KC. Ochocinco has previously posted pictures of himself with Brazilians Ronaldinho and Kaka on the internet, visited Real Madrid and regularly comments on soccer games. Sporting coach Peter Vermes said he was interested to see how Ochocinco would turn his athleticism into ability on the soccer field. "We are always searching for players who can help our team and bringing in new talent. We know that Chad is an exceptional athlete and loves the sport of soccer and he did play a lot when he was younger. "We are excited to see how his skills will translate once he arrives next week and begins training with our team," he said. The team said they would decide after the trial whether or not to extend Ochocinco's time with the club. He was born in Miami as Chad Johnson but changed his name in 2008 to reflect a Spanish language version of his shirt number 85. The NFL and the players' union are heading to court on April 6 where an anti-trust case will be heard following the breakdown in talks over a new collective agreement. http://fourfourtwo.com/news/restoftheworld/75583/default.aspx Edited by sydneycroatia58: 17/3/2011 10:21:17 AM
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I watched the 'blind side' yesterday, the movie with Sandra Bullock in it, about the kid who had nothing and was adopted by this rich family who ended up getting drafted pick 23 in round 1 by the ravens, its very good film, you always see true life sports movies but you never see em when it involved someone famous who made it too the top.
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apparently its ochos fave sport. ive seen him do kickoffs and field goals in NFL games. Hes not terrible
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Is he trialling as a 'keeper?
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Bonkers wrote:apparently its ochos fave sport. ive seen him do kickoffs and field goals in NFL games. Hes not terrible Why would their wide receiver be taking kick-offs and field goals?
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afromanGT wrote:Bonkers wrote:apparently its ochos fave sport. ive seen him do kickoffs and field goals in NFL games. Hes not terrible Why would their wide receiver be taking kick-offs and field goals? I believe the Bengals kicker was hurt during that game and their coach knew Chad could kick well and better than their punter. Punters are usually the gametime backup kickers if anything goes wrong as most teams only carry one kicker and punter on their roster.
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Yeah, I can understand that, it's not like they're ever really in the thick of the action so they're not as likely to get injured...
Andy, I've been thinking about joining one of my local NFL sides (I live in Melbourne), I was just wondering how seriously they take it and what level of experience is needed. I'm not the biggest bloke by NFL standards (6'2" and 90kg) and I'm just coming back from an injury, is it worth taking a look?
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i have a few friends who play locally. they take it seriously but theyre shit.
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The thing is, the positions that I'm familiar with playing (running back, quarter back and center back) are all popular positions and I don't think I'd get in the team there.
I used to be able to throw a football 40+ yards before my injury, I don't know what's expected of QB's at this level.
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afromanGT wrote:The thing is, the positions that I'm familiar with playing (running back, quarter back and center back) are all popular positions and I don't think I'd get in the team there.
I used to be able to throw a football 40+ yards before my injury, I don't know what's expected of QB's at this level. center back huh? :oops: go to a team. theyll fit you in somewhere. you cant expect to be starting QB anywhere. And dont take it too seriously all youll just be disappointed. QB is more about memorising a playbook rather than throwing 60 yards.
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Center, not Center back. Was just on a roll with the backs.
I wouldn't expect to be a starting QB anywhere. Memorising the calls isn't such a big deal these days, most of the QB's have them written down lol. I'm thinking I'll just head down to monash and see how things are run down there.
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small but you play center.. ok. sure you didnt mean cornerback?
yeah go see what their training is like.
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Lot of upper body strength. Could probably play corner back too.
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haha functional strength is all about legs. nfl centres bench 200+kgs. thats a 'lot of upper body strength' :lol: you probably cant bench your bodyweight. what does it take to admit youre wrong? :P
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Yeah, I probably can't bench my bodyweight, can't say I've tried...but this isn't NFL :P
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true. but you will get some fat cunts who will lean all 120kgs of fat on you.
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Bonkers wrote:true. but you will get some fat cunts who will lean all 120kgs of fat on you. Sounds like being on an airplane :P
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afromanGT wrote:Yeah, I can understand that, it's not like they're ever really in the thick of the action so they're not as likely to get injured...
Andy, I've been thinking about joining one of my local NFL sides (I live in Melbourne), I was just wondering how seriously they take it and what level of experience is needed. I'm not the biggest bloke by NFL standards (6'2" and 90kg) and I'm just coming back from an injury, is it worth taking a look? Hey mate Yeah just go on down and introduce yourself and they will sort of work out a position for you based on the teams needs, your size, and your ability. I am somewhat tall and skinny and went to a pre season training thinking I might be a cornerback or safety. Ended up getting turned into a wide receiver before I did my shoulder and decided to went to the US for a holiday instead of playing haha. I prepared beforehand by doing a lot of running to get fit and it really paid off. Ended up being one of the fittest and fastest guys by end of pre season. Also go and buy yourself a ball to get used to it and just walk around the house with it. Suprised at how much that made a difference. Hope that helps Andy Edited by NFLDownUnder: 21/3/2011 09:33:45 AM
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Strange set of positions there afro.
All 3 positions have completely different skills sets and require different strength in different areas of the body.
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Andy Your website lacks a forum! And local league coverage.
Afro I played a few years with a now defunct team here in Sydney. I'd played rugby league and was fairly difficult to bring down when I got up a head of steam, so I thought running back would be the go when I signed up. Turns out I ain't the type they're after for that position (bit like Brandon Jackson, but slower). I ended up playing left guard most of the time, with the occasional down at defensive end. Everyone goes in thinking they can play one of the ball handling positions. Most teams (in Sydney at least) run the ball a lot.
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Id love to play linebacker or safety. :lol:
fuck offense
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Quote:I prepared beforehand by doing a lot of running to get fit and it really paid off. Ended up being one of the fittest and fastest guys by end of pre season. Also go and buy yourself a ball to get used to it and just walk around the house with it. Suprised at how much that made a difference. Yeah, I've been thinking about buying a ball. I've got an undersize ball from when I was a kid but I was thinking about buying a full-size one just to throw around with mates. I'm worried about my arm still though. I've been playing some indoor football and running to get some fitness back up but it's hard to get motivated to do stuff one-handed when my arm gives out. Quote:Everyone goes in thinking they can play one of the ball handling positions. Most teams (in Sydney at least) run the ball a lot. I'd expect that to be the case largely because the QB's and receivers aren't up to standard.
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Bonkers wrote:Id love to play linebacker or safety. :lol:
fuck offense Defence are usually the meatheads :d Angry guys that wana hurt people! It's usually the O-linemen that do best on the Wonderlic. afromanGT wrote:f1worldchamp wrote:Everyone goes in thinking they can play one of the ball handling positions. Most teams (in Sydney at least) run the ball a lot. I'd expect that to be the case largely because the QB's and receivers aren't up to standard. That's pretty much it. It's harder than it looks.
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Quote:That's pretty much it. It's harder than it looks. That just means that if there's someone who can make the passes they're more likely to succeed. Do want. Quote:Defence are usually the meatheads :D Angry guys that wana hurt people! Angry guys that don't have the intelligence to remember a play.
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I'm short and skinny. Not the best body figure for gridiron methinks.
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Benjo wrote:I'm short and skinny. Not the best body figure for gridiron methinks. You could play WB.
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I fancy myself as a Long Snapper or a Gunner.
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long snapper. hahahaha most boring position.
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Bonkers wrote:long snapper. hahahaha most boring position. Nothing like playing 30 seconds a game...
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man these rule changes and discussions are fucking pissing me off.
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afromanGT wrote:Bonkers wrote:long snapper. hahahaha most boring position. Nothing like playing 30 seconds a game... Meh..you'd still be on the leagues minimum wage, and be able to call yourself an 'NFL Player'. Hell, I'd do it. Bonkers wrote:man these rule changes and discussions are fucking pissing me off. I hope they are just designed to distract from the labour talks, and none will actually be enacted.
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HOPEFULLY!
Thank god for college football.
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Just on that long snapping business, I can't post the vid from here but youtube 'Zach Enyeart' for a laugh.
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Quote:Meh..you'd still be on the leagues minimum wage, and be able to call yourself an 'NFL Player'. Hell, I'd do it. Worth it for the chance at that ring. I can't believe Brett Good gets a ring after playing something like 8 minutes all season. Quote:I hope they are just designed to distract from the labour talks, and none will actually be enacted. I think the whole plan is just to dick about and avoid dealing with the actual issue at hand. I don't understand what's holding up the contract talks. You know, other than that fuckbag who calls himself the owner of the Washington Redskins.
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afromanGT wrote: You know, other than that fuckbag who calls himself the owner of the . Fixed, they're all fuckbags. 'Cept the Packers owners. :p They don't even get dividends! Here's a good take on NFL owners: Quote:Are you the kind of person who loves hearing the bug zapper?
Who likes it when the highway paves over a few neighborhoods? Who secretly wants the tank to flatten the kid with the flower?
Then you're going to love the NFL owners in this mess.
It's hard to find anybody to like in this coming distraction known as the NFL lockout. But look closely. Yes, some of the players are millionaires. But half of the owners are billionaires.
Their estimated combined net worth is well over $40 billion, which is more than the GNP of 150 nations. Paul Allen, owner of the Seattle Seahawks, has a 414-foot yacht called "The Octopus" with two helicopters, two submarines, a swimming pool, a music studio and a basketball court. He also has two backup emergency yachts.
You're really worried about his wallet?
Yes, many of the players are diamond-coated knuckleheads. But have you ever met Washington Redskins owner Daniel Snyder? He's worth $1.1 billion and yet, two years ago, the Redskins sued a 73-year-old grandmother for not keeping up on her season-ticket package payments.
This man also got caught buying stale peanuts from a defunct airline and reselling them at games.
For the owners to lock out the players at this time in American history is unconscionable. You don't like the players? Fine. There are still nearly 9 percent of Americans out of work. Think of the people who've lost their homes, lost their cars and can barely pay the rent. Watching an NFL game on a Sunday -- and getting ready for it all week -- is sometimes literally the only thing keeping them going.
Do you realize what having no NFL season would do to the economy? According to the NFLPA, it's estimated it would cost each NFL city $160 million and 3,000 jobs. That's 93,000 jobs nationwide. For what? Another Aspen chalet?
Question: In 10 years, do you think you're going to find New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft wandering the streets because of the 200-plus concussions he didn't know he had from his time in the NFL? You figure Detroit Lions owner William Clay Ford will end up with ringing in the ears and depression the way former Patriots linebacker Ted Johnson did? Within the past year alone, two former players killed themselves.
You recall any NFL owners killing themselves lately?
The players aren't asking for more money. They deserve what they get, and they get it for an average of only three years. The Bidwills have owned the Cardinals for 79 years. The Rooneys have owned the Steelers for 78 years. Nine NFL owners inherited their teams. There's no easier path to permanent hot-and-cold running jets than your dad handing you an NFL team.
On the other hand, nobody hands NFL players anything but a chinstrap. With what we know about the dangers to brains now, would you exchange jobs with an NFL player?
This isn't baseball. These guys go to a job every day in which safety is Job 1,379.
The people asking for more money are the owners. They want $1 billion more out of the deal they have now.
They say they're losing money. But if you were losing money and were asking for $1 billion back, wouldn't you slap some proof down on the table? The owners are more secretive with their books than KFC is with its recipe.
Take our word for it and just fork over the billion. Oh, and play two more games for free. Thanks.
In this, the greediest and most shameful era in American business history, the NFL owners would steal the cake. No set of sports owners in U.S. history has known this kind of popularity, love or cash. If there is a lockout, the day the 2012 season starts, every fan ought to pelt the owners' luxury boxes with pennies.
Jeffrey Lurie, owner of the Philadelphia Eagles, owns an 18-bedroom estate with a three-hole golf course, two-lane bowling alley, two-story recreation center and indoor tennis court. He's really going to lock players out? For what, his own ski hill?
Stan Kroenke, owner of the St. Louis Rams, owns four homes, four ranches and three vineyards. He once ordered his employees to destroy $3 million in wine because he didn't think it was up to his standards. His wife is a Wal-Mart heiress.
Are you really fretting about his future?
NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said the other day that the owners need this money to build new stadiums. And who profits from new stadiums? The owners. A new stadium doesn't make the team any better. The seat under your butt isn't any bigger. But a new stadium, usually built with vats of your tax dollars, funnels millions more per game into an owner's pocket via luxury boxes, concessions and advertising. That's money that isn't shared 32 ways. What Goodell is saying is, "We need that billion so my owners can buy new Bentleys. Theirs are dusty."
Locking out the players now would be unjust, unfair and as indefensible as Al Davis' wardrobe. There is so much to go around, it's obscene. A billion back? These guys have that in cash.
Malcolm Glazer, owner of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, once bought a $14 million Palm Beach mansion and never moved into it. He later sold it for $24 million.
Bud Adams, owner of the Tennessee Titans, has 10,000 head of cattle.
Jennifer Lopez, part owner of the Miami Dolphins, has offered to auction off her twins' clothes because they're not allowed to "repeat" outfits.
When's the telethon? http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=6177574
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f1worldchamp wrote:afromanGT wrote: You know, other than that fuckbag who calls himself the owner of the . Fixed, they're all fuckbags. 'Cept the Packers owners. :p They don't even get dividends That's one of the main reasons I got into the Packers, the fact that they're the only publicly owned team in major league sport in the whole of north america is great. I know that most of the owners are bastard coated bastards with bastard filling...but Snyder is the worst. The Rolling Stone's Supreme Court of Assholedom wrote:THE PEOPLE VS. DANIEL SNYDER Before any of our more intellectual readers here run away screaming for fear that this case brought against the Play-Doh-brained owner of the Washington Redskins is about sports, please hear us out, for this is not a sports case. Daniel Snyder drew the Supreme Court’s attention thanks to his decision to file a $2 million defamation lawsuit against the Washington alt-weekly City Paper and its reporter Dave McKenna, after McKenna wrote a hilarious and viciously accurate piece called “The Cranky Redskins Fan’s Guide to Daniel Snyder.”The issue here, as presented by Justice Drew Magary, is simple. What Daniel Snyder seemed to show in this case is that if you piss off a rich asshole, he can fight back by bankrupting you with a frivolous lawsuit, where he’ll win even if he loses, no matter how wrong he is. Thus the court was asked to consider the following question: Is any rich person who seeks revenge through frivolous-litigation-by-attrition automatically an asshole? Here’s some background on this lawsuit. In it, Snyder alleged that McKenna published four material “misrepresentations” in his article. But all of these alleged “misrepresentations” seemed merely to be funny rhetorical takes on absolutely true facts. An example: Snyder at one point apparently used his influence to get a National Park official to cut down 130 trees on a hillside between Snyder’s sweeping Potomac estate and the C&O canal. McKenna’s wry take on this was that Snyder “made a great view of the Potomac River for himself by going all Agent Orange on federally protected lands.” To which Snyder, in his lawsuit, responded by contending that McKenna had written “that Mr. Snyder caused Agent Orange to be used to destroy trees.” The example I liked even better was this: Synder’s lawsuit complained that one of the misrepresentations in McKenna’s piece was that “Mr. Snyder bragged that his wealth came from diabetes and cancer victims.” But this appeared to be exactly what Snyder did. In a PBS program called CEO Exchange Snyder was shown with fellow sports owner Mark Cuban in a Q&A with Jeff Greenfield at Northwestern University in 2000. In that Q&A he talked about how at Snyder Communications, his marketing company, they huddled up to decide which demographics to target for marketing campaigns. "We'd make jokes, each niche would be a $5 million niche, and we'd go after each one," Snyder says in the program. Then, when asked for examples, he says this: "We were looking at trend lines…We saw that the aging baby boomer demographics were coming on strong. That meant there's going to be a lot more diabetic patients, a lot more cancer patients, etc. How do we capture those market segments?" If anything, it seems to me that McKenna understated his rhetoric about Snyder here: While he only wrote that Snyder bragged about scoring big on cancer patients and diabetics, he could have written that Snyder joked about it, which is probably even worse. That particular example highlights why Snyder is such a good choice of defendant for this Court. The Redskins owner is one of the prototypical assholes of modern American capitalism – a completely bloodless, money-grubbing narcissist who will sink to any depths in search of a buck (he took expired peanuts bought off a defunct airline and sold them to fans at Redskins games; he also sold beer in the men’s bathrooms at the Redskins’ stadium), and constantly pushes regulatory and ethical boundaries to gouge customers (the company he owned before the Redskins was fined millions for switching phone customers’ service plans without authorization, a practice called “Slamming”). He also grossly insulted all real victims of anti-Semitism when he accused McKenna and the City Paper of targeting him for his Jewishness, claiming that its cover depiction of Snyder with horns growing out of his head was an anti-Semitic caricature. As numerous writers have pointed out, the notion of a guy who owns a team called the Redskins crying foul about ethnic slurs is beyond preposterous; from this Justice’s point of view the reflexive accusation of racism or anti-Semitism whenever one suffers criticism is also often an indication of assholeness, although the Court was no asked to consider that issue in this case. I ruled Snyder an asshole and gave him 4,999 points, which I calculated as the highest score a non-violent asshole who is not George Will can receive. If in the future counsel can demonstrate to me that Snyder’s callous business practices somehow resulted in deaths and/or injury, Court will be moved to reconsider its judgment. As to the question of whether or not a rich person who takes revenge by filing frivolous litigation with the intent to bankrupt his or her critics, I vote absolutely yes. This is an increasingly common practice and anyone who indulges in this activity is, to me, forever an asshole. This ruling would cover for instance Chabourne Park attorney John Squires, who a few years ago filed a cease and desist letter on behalf of Goldman Sachs against a blogger named Mike Morgan. Morgan had been blogging on a little-known site called GoldmanSachs666. Another characteristic of such lawsuits is that they almost always involve very small publications or websites without the legal means to right back effectively; since the actual damage that alt-weeklies and obscure websites can do to one’s reputation is negligible, one has to assume that the major motive behind such suits is prophylactic, i.e. scaring future critics at such outlets into thinking twice about risking their meager personal fortunes to say a word or two about the Dan Snyders and Lloyd Blankfeins of the world. Justice Drew Magary first brought Synder to the Court’s attention and, voting to convict, summed up the situation thusly: “The reason the McKenna case is important is because it demonstrates that, if you piss off a rich asshole, he can use a friviolous lawsuit to bankrupt you. You don't have a choice. You have to hire lawyers to defend yourself again and again until your resources have been exhausted. You can be dragged into the legal system against your will by some fuckhead like Snyder and even if he loses, you’re still ruined for life.” THE RULING Court ruled unanimously that Daniel Snyder is indeed an asshole. Vote is 8-0 (Schmid, Sirota, Kourkounis, Taibbi, Magary, Whitmer, Rees, Kreider). Justice Jenny Boylan recused herself on the grounds that she did not know who Daniel Snyder is. Many Justices took pains to point out that Snyder’s assholedom has little or nothing to do with the fact of his having been one of the most incompetent owners in the history of modern professional sports, and I think many Justices showed great benevolence in not bringing up names like Albert Haynesworth, Donovan McNabb, and Vinny Cerrato. In fact, many Justices were anxious to point out that they did not even consider his sports history in their decision. Some opinions: Justice Timothy Kreider said Snyder is an asshole, but “primarily because of this lawsuit. His assholery in the field of sports is a more frivolous matter.” Justice Jessica Kourkounis gave Synder 5000 points and said that “doing business with Tom Cruise is grounds for automatic assholedom in my book.” Justice Adam Whitmer gave Synder 6800 points and chimed in on behalf of Redskins fans. “Someone who repeatedly shits on a fan base this loyal to their team and city is an asshole,” he wrote. “But the amount of ‘Scratch my Back, I’ll scratch yours’ that Dan Snyder has displayed just shows that he just doesn’t care about the game, only the money that comes with the game. People like that don’t deserve to own teams.” Justice Mara Schmid was careful to point out other examples of this behavior, including the Pillsbury company suing a Salt Lake City bakery for use of a “My Dough Girl” campaign and the Monster Cable company for going after basically everyone who’s ever used the word “Monster,” including the TV show “Monster Garage” and the Boston Red Sox for their “Monster Seats” section above the Green Monster at Fenway. Justice David Sirota was succinct in his summation: “As an NFL owner, he's almost automatically an asshole. And on top of that, he's an asshole among assholes.” Justice Kreider summed things up for us. “Somewhere in an incredible string of invective unleashed against a foppish servant in King Lear, The Earl of Kent uses the epithet, ‘action-taking,’ meaning ‘litigious,’” he wrote. “Suing someone was then considered despicably craven and effete -- what you were supposed to do, of course, if you were any kind of man, was kill them with your fucking sword…It's still a pretty contemptible activity to involve oneself in litigation voluntarily unless it's to redress some serious injustice or injury. This kind of behavior is just an abuse of litigation -- the goal is not proving that you're in the right but a victory through attrition due to an overwhelming advantage in resources. It's also a defining asshole tactic, like a big drunk picking a fight with the littlest guy in the bar. THE SCORE Interestingly, Synder’s aggregate asshole score was right around where I had it – the average of the seven justices who sent in scores was 4,697.
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Quote:KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- After a five-day tryout proved that he was a good teammate who lacked enough soccer skills, NFL star Chad Ochocinco got what he was hoping for Tuesday -- a spot on the reserve team for Sporting Kansas City.
Now, he'll work out a couple of times a week with the MLS team's reserve squad, which is what he was hoping for all along.
"This is so awesome I'm an honorary member of SportingKC and can train with the reserve team as long as I want," Ochocinco said in a tweet. "Totally awesome ILuvKC." As an honorary member of Sporting KC who plays for the reserve team, the six-time Pro Bowl wide receiver for the Cincinnati Bengals will not be given a contract or be paid. But soccer will be a great way to stay in shape until owners and players work out their differences and the NFL lockout is lifted.
Coach Peter Vermes said Ochocinco had proven himself a hard worker and a good teammate and was never a distraction.
"This is a positive outcome for everyone involved," said Vermes. "It's been great to have Chad here and we'll welcome him back when he's ready to return. He's been a true professional throughout his tryout, he has fit right in with the other players and he has been a great presence in the locker room. He has definitely earned the right to be an honorary member of the squad."
The Ochocinco experience has also been good for soccer, Vermes believes.
"For our sport, it's great because I think there's a lot of people out there who question how hard it is to play this game and it's very, very difficult."
Ochocinco left for home after getting the good news and said he would return "in a week or two."
"I had a great six days here ... just to be able to grace the pitch with these guys was awesome," Ochocinco said. "It's always been a dream of mine to play the game of soccer. Manager Vermes was kind enough to allow me to stay here at will to train with the reserves and continue to get myself in shape."
Ochocinco had appeared to be realistic about his chances of winning an MLS contract.
"I've been away from the game since I was a little kid. I'm just having fun," he said after Monday's practice game. "The skill set is not there like it should be. All I can do out here on the pitch is probably just run fast."
Ochocinco said his grandmother helped persuade him to give up soccer and focus entirely on football after the 10th grade. If he had stuck with soccer, Vermes said, he would have been a star in that sport.
"There's no doubt in my mind he would be a professional player today," Vermes said. "No doubt in my mind. We've had guys in here with lesser physical tools than he has. He brings something to the field, his attention to detail and he's very conscientious about the game. When you bring that every day onto the practice field you're just going to get better." http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/news/_/id/6270263/chad-ochocinco-cincinnati-bengals-gets-reserve-spot-sporting-kc
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Bump. Just read that the lockout has been lifted by the Judge. Good progress and the draft is obviously going ahead tonight. Excellent.
However, I saw this on youtube and I was bloody impressed. [youtube]3eiyCpIRCWU[/youtube]
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When I saw those mountains, I had a Napoleon Dynamite moment.
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Its been 3 hours and i still cant believe we wasted our 1st rounder on Jake Locker.
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Shaker wrote:Its been 3 hours and i still cant believe we wasted our 1st rounder on Jake Locker. I :lol: watching this online COuldn't believe Gabbert got left until 10 !
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ausmojo wrote:Shaker wrote:Its been 3 hours and i still cant believe we wasted our 1st rounder on Jake Locker. I :lol: watching this online COuldn't believe Gabbert got left until 10 ! We passed on Gabbert and Fairley to get a guy that probably should have been drafted in the 2nd round. The Vikings were the same, Ponder was 2nd round for sure. We passed on Gabbert, and our division rival, The Jaguars, trade up and get him. If we made the wrong decision, we'll be reminded of it twice a year for the next 10 seasons.
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Shaker wrote:ausmojo wrote:Shaker wrote:Its been 3 hours and i still cant believe we wasted our 1st rounder on Jake Locker. I :lol: watching this online COuldn't believe Gabbert got left until 10 ! We passed on Gabbert and Fairley to get a guy that probably should have been drafted in the 2nd round. The Vikings were the same, Ponder was 2nd round for sure. We passed on Gabbert, and our division rival, The Jaguars, trade up and get him. If we made the wrong decision, we'll be reminded of it twice a year for the next 10 seasons. I use to be a Titans fan going back 10 years ago and if i still was i'd be heavily disappointed in this pick. Gabbert was definitely what they needed and why they passed i'll never know. However there is no gaurantee that Gabbert will start as Gerrard is the incumbent. Be a good fight between those guys. Keeping with Gabbert, he was easily the biggest loser of the day. His $$$ earning fell sharply the further he went down the list.
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ausmojo wrote:Shaker wrote:ausmojo wrote:Shaker wrote:Its been 3 hours and i still cant believe we wasted our 1st rounder on Jake Locker. I :lol: watching this online COuldn't believe Gabbert got left until 10 ! We passed on Gabbert and Fairley to get a guy that probably should have been drafted in the 2nd round. The Vikings were the same, Ponder was 2nd round for sure. We passed on Gabbert, and our division rival, The Jaguars, trade up and get him. If we made the wrong decision, we'll be reminded of it twice a year for the next 10 seasons. I use to be a Titans fan going back 10 years ago and if i still was i'd be heavily disappointed in this pick. Gabbert was definitely what they needed and why they passed i'll never know. However there is no gaurantee that Gabbert will start as Gerrard is the incumbent. Be a good fight between those guys. Keeping with Gabbert, he was easily the biggest loser of the day. His $$$ earning fell sharply the further he went down the list. Im massivly disappointed, for some reason though Munchak and co were always gonna draft Locker, they were suprised, and i dont know how, that he "dropped" to pick 8. I had him just inside the 1st round. Gabbert fell, but not as much as Fairley, he was number 1 2 months ago, dropped to 13.
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On Nick Fairley though, he is sharing a central spot in the Lions defensive line with Suh, great central pairing going forward.
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I did say that Titans would go with a QB way back. I'm surprised that they went with Locker and not Gabbert. The only real surprise in the top 5 was Broncoes taking Von Miller and not snapping up Fairley or Quinn while they had a chance. Especially when they'd have had a chance at LB's galore in the second round tonight.
No surprises that GB went with Derrek Sherrod. The lad's build like a truck and he'll give Rodgers some extra cover and some more time next season. I was a bit confused as to why we didn't go for a CB but now that I think about it, good move. I don't think anyone was expecting Peterson to go so high.
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I watched the draft video of Derrek Sherrod, the lad has brilliant footwork, really impressed with that drafting actually.
I'm pretty stoked that we picked up Randall Cobb in the second round. I'm surprised he fell all the way through to 64th pick. I'd rate him up there with Julio Jones and A.J Green, so that's a really good move. The question now is will Donald Driver or James Jones be leaving before the season starts.
Judging from what McCarthy's said, Alex Green was picked up for his hands and blocking ability, which is something we were lacking last season from the returns. Could be a much better drafting than it looks.
Two picks in round 4 means we'll probably pick up a CB and LB. It's a bit hard to make much of the remaining players but there's definitely some talent to be found out there.
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are they going to have a season... it must be getting soon to the cut off point, you'd think another month and that'd be season off
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What are you talking about?
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afromanGT wrote:What are you talking about? with the lockout, or have they fixed that and i didn't watch sportscentre that night?
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The Doctor wrote:afromanGT wrote:What are you talking about? with the lockout, or have they fixed that and i didn't watch sportscentre that night? It's still going. They've suspended the lockout so the Packers can receive their rings. Hopefully this doesn't end up like NHL 04-05 and they end up cancelling the season. I can't find any news of what happened to the June 3rd appeal to the lockout. Seems progress in the labour talks are slow too.
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Owners and players are still at eachothers throats, although I did read recently that they kicked the lawyers out of the talks, which can only be a good thing.
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There were rumours that they were close to an agreement last week but talks broke down over a minor detail. I'd say we're still about 2 months away from a deal. Green Bay don't look like they've been too adversely effected by the strike, the players all seem happy and are all communicating on twitter and the board have been good. From what I hear we've got contracts ready to go for Kuhn, Crosby and Jenkins which is good news. This years ring looks pretty freaking sweet too.
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"92 Years, 13 Championships, 4 Super Bowls = 109 DIAMONDS!!" - Clay Matthews.  :cool: Rodgers looks so proud.
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Matthews is a machine. already pumped for next season. Those rings are beautiful. Can you buy replica's of them? Out of interest, if New England win one again.
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Benjo wrote:Matthews is a machine. already pumped for next season. Those rings are beautiful. Can you buy replica's of them? Out of interest, if New England win one again. Clay Matthews is amazing. If I didn't have Rodgers on my jersey, I'd have Matthews. No, the rings are unique, so you'd have to find a jeweller who was willing to make it on commission. There are commemorative rings released by the club but they're not the same and don't look anywhere near as good. And besides, a ring made of platinum encrusted with 109 diamonds would probably cost a fair wack.
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Benjo wrote:Those rings are beautiful. Can you buy replica's of them? Out of interest, if New England win one again. Just regarding this again, the packers DID launch a range of replica rings commemorating the Superbowl victory. There's also a Paperweight replica of the actualy rings...obviously not real diamonds or platinum in that one :lol: I'm thinking about buying one of the rings but they're far from cheap.
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SO...THE LOCKOUT IS OVER!!!
Johnson has been re-signed for the panthers on a $72m deal.
Looks like Mark Sanchez is willing to take a pay-cut to keep Holmes at the Jets too.
Is anyone here interested in setting up a NFL fantasy league?
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Benjo
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Possibly, if we can get enough interest, I'd do it.
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afromanGT
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I assume Buddha and F1WC would be in at least...we could get something together surely. Do it after the chaos of this week's trades.
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afromanGT wrote:SO...THE LOCKOUT IS OVER!!! cue the music, footballs back [youtube]ah9wffZCZwI[/youtube]
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Benjo
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Love that music so fucking much.
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buddha69
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I'd be keen on Fantasy. Never done NFL before
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Neither have I...I don't think many on here have. I figured it would be a learning experience for all of us :lol:
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Def up for a FFT Fantasy NFL League. If there's enough interest I can set up too. Some interesting moves around the last couple of days: Chad Ochocinco and Albert Haynesworth to the Patriots Donovan McNabb to the Vikings Kevin Kolb to the Cardinals Matt Hasselbeck to the Titans Reggie Bush to the Dolphins
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I'm surprised by the Ochocinco and Bush moves.
Packers have re-signed Mason Crosby and allowed Darryn Colledge to join the cardinals (presumably because they've got Sherrod as his replacement).
I'm trying to set up the fantasy league but I still haven't received the confirmation email to my account.
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MCNABB. He'll be good for the Vikings Very surprised about the Bush move like Afro mentioned. Have Seahawks recruited another QB? Hasselbeck has been there for yonks
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Vikings will take anyone with a half decent arm, which is odd given they drafted two QB's.
Ok, so the league name is FFT Australia. The password is kevinairs (one word).
the url is fftaus.league.fantasy.nfl.com
You have to set up a maximum number of teams and I've figured Me, the doc, benjo, tiny, F11WC, buddha + 2 others will be enough, so there's 8 max.
There's a whole lot of settings that I don't understand, but I've made it so that you have to pick two LB's as well in your line-up.
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avy may be interested, isn't he a green bay fan?
Not a bad move for Occy, we need a good wide receiver. Playing with brady as well will surely help him. Hopefully we can keep his controversy factor to a low this year.
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How long did it take you to get your email Afro?
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Ocho's biggest problem is a lack of commitment lol.
I think avy will be in. That's a full list then. If we get too many interested, we can always start a second league.
Get your team in and your draft picks ready, guys. The sooner the better.
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buddha69 wrote:How long did it take you to get your email Afro? It took me about 15 minutes for it to come through.
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afromanGT wrote:buddha69 wrote:How long did it take you to get your email Afro? It took me about 15 minutes for it to come through. yeah I got mine and joined the league. Took me a while to figure it out :lol:
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Explain to people how to join the league, Buddha, you're not the only one who had trouble :lol:
I assume you're supple dumpers. Got you in week 1 :evil:
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afromanGT wrote:Explain to people how to join the league, Buddha, you're not the only one who had trouble :lol:
I assume you're supple dumpers. Got you in week 1 :evil: I am Who else needs assistance. I helped Benjo out.
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DUDES For those of you attempting to join the league
go to the fantasy NFL homepage fantasy.nfl.com Then click on the received an invite link on that page. It is below the big 3 yellow links 400791 is the id password is kevinairs
Then you fill in your team name and stuff
Happy Fantasy
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afromanGT wrote:Vikings will take anyone with a half decent arm, which is odd given they drafted two QB's.
Ok, so the league name is FFT Australia. The password is kevinairs (one word).
the url is fftaus.league.fantasy.nfl.com
You have to set up a maximum number of teams and I've figured Me, the doc, benjo, tiny, F11WC, buddha + 2 others will be enough, so there's 8 max.
There's a whole lot of settings that I don't understand, but I've made it so that you have to pick two LB's as well in your line-up. Well I guess now I have to. :lol: I'm up for it though.
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Hey, what kind of Steelers fan wouldn't be in :P
Ok guys, once you get into our league, you need to click 'my team' and then 'pre-draft selections' then click the yellow 'edir pre-draft selections' button. Pick out your players and hopefully we'll have a full league done soon and we can have our teams ready soon.
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Well this is nice and confusing. How many players do we put in the pre-draft?
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You can have up to 20 I believe. It's up to you which ones you pick, basically what you're doing is putting in a preference for certain players through the draft. If the draft goes through and you haven't picked up for example a QB yet, you'll be assigned the next best ranked QB that hasn't been picked. So it's not the end of the world. But if you wanted Santonio Homes really badly, you'd probably pick him in the top few picks.
I choose the draft order so I'm going to go with the order which people sign up.
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We've got the option of having an online draft, where everyone ha 2 mins to make their selection, much like the NFL draft.
Or we can have an offline draft, where the computer just picks out based around the shortlist each person submits...so do you guys think you can be online for about 4 hours one night?
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If given enough warning, I would be very much up for it
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I should be available most nights.
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I think something like Tuesday night once the league is full should be ideal.
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OK I'm in.
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Who was it who was the Titans fan? Was that Shaker?
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afromanGT wrote:Who was it who was the Titans fan? Was that Shaker? Pretty sure it was
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4 hours in one night will be a bit of a stretch for me...mum wants me to cut down my internet usage unfortunately. :? Quote:I choose the draft order so I'm going to go with the order which people sign up. Didn't you sign up first :P Edited by benjo: 29/7/2011 11:52:32 PM
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That's the perk of being the person who had to figure out the near impenetrable bullshit that the sign up forms are.
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Packers RB Brandon Jackson has reportedly joined Cleveland. I don't know why we're letting him go when we need a decent RB.
Titans' QB Vince Young has joined The Eagles to play as Vick's back-up on a one year deal.
I'm a bit disappointed by the lack of movement from the Packers.
Edited by afromanGT: 30/7/2011 05:53:40 AM
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afromanGT wrote:Packers RB Brandon Jackson has reportedly joined Cleveland. I don't know why we're letting him go when we need a decent RB.
Titans' QB Vince Young has joined The Eagles to play as Vick's back-up on a one year deal.
I'm a bit disappointed by the lack of movement from the Packers.
Edited by afromanGT: 30/7/2011 05:53:40 AM It'll be Ryan Grant backed up by James Starks this year. I'd say that's pretty decent. Jackson never really did it for me, not disapointed to see him go. Little more worried to see that Nick Barnett and Mark Tauscher are showing as released on the Packers website, although often they release players from a deal and resign the next day.
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Obviously Ryan Grant being out most of the season hurt us, but I think we need a third option behind starks and Jackson was really good for that. I still reckon we need another RB. James Starks and Jordy Nelson are going to have big years on offence IMO.
Mark Tauscher, at 34 won't have much place behind Derrek Sherrod this season probably. And I'm looking forward to what he can do.
Nick Barnett has been comfortably usurped by Clay Matthews - who let's be honest, is a fucking GOD - and Brad Jones, who although inexperienced has been very promising in training and in the games that he's played pre-injury. I was also really impressed with Frank Zombo last season, so I don't think Outside LB's are going to be much of a problem.
It's pretty obvious that come seasons end we're going to trade up draft picks to get as high as possible in order to get the best WR available to replace Donald Driver, who turns 37 at the end of the season and hasn't made a 20+ yard reception since week 15 2009 (IIRC). Unless Randall Cobb has a huge season.
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buddha69 wrote:afromanGT wrote:Who was it who was the Titans fan? Was that Shaker? Pretty sure it was Twas. :D! Very much a transition season in Nashville this year. Very happy to see the back of VY, Babin im sad to see go, but he's not worth a big contract on the back of 1 decent season. I dont expect much in terms of results but i just want to see some players step up and get some gametime. Jared Cook, Derrick Morgan, Akeem Ayers and need big seasons from Micheal Griffin, Kenny Britt and Matt Hasslebeck. With a whole new coaching staff the gameplan will be a little different. In my opinion, we'll go 5-11 or 6-10. Colts 11-5 Texans 10-6 Jags 8-8 Titans 5-11 We also signed Barrett Ruud overnight and he'll most likely be our starting Middle. No idea what defensive structure jerry plays so will have to wait and see what scheme we go with. Edited by shaker: 31/7/2011 07:06:52 PM
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Shaker, are you in for the Fantasy Football?
I think the Titans have been recruiting pretty well. They'll be on the cusp of the play-offs.
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afromanGT wrote:Shaker, are you in for the Fantasy Football?
I think the Titans have been recruiting pretty well. They'll be on the cusp of the play-offs. Yeah man im in! Only thing holding us back is that we are probably the weakest team in our division, and we have 6 games against them, plus the AFC North and NFC South. But if we click and the partnership of Hasslebeck and CJ reaps, then wildcards will be getable.
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Details are on page 16, mate.
If people have time..do you all want to do a live daft on Tuesday night?
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afromanGT wrote:Details are on page 16, mate.
If people have time..do you all want to do a live daft on Tuesday night? What time, i work till 9.30pm.
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Given that we've only got 8 teams selecting 10 players, that's 80 players being drafted...at 2 minutes a selection...will take us around 2.5 hours.
I'm fine with being up until 1am doing this...but I dunno about F1WC and Azzurro89 (the owner of NY Sack Exchange), who probably have to work the next day.
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afromanGT wrote:Given that we've only got 8 teams selecting 10 players, that's 80 players being drafted...at 2 minutes a selection...will take us around 2.5 hours.
I'm fine with being up until 1am doing this...but I dunno about F1WC and Azzurro89 (the owner of NY Sack Exchange), who probably have to work the next day. Ive set up my Pre-Draft rankings incase im not home for the Draft.
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I'm not sure if the game will let you...but you might be able to come active part way through the draft when you get home and take it from there.
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I need to be up by 7am on Wed mornings.
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Alright, looks like we're going with an offline draft then and if someone gets a player you want, you can trade for them.
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Ok, I've set the draft so the NFL site automates it tonight, so everyone's teams should be together tomorrow.
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Thanks for that, looks like work will have me in Queensland tomorrow night so I couldn't have done it.
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Quote:Jones, Kuhn agree to three-year deals with Packers
MILWAUKEE -- Free-agent wide receiver James Jones is returning to the Green Bay Packers.
Agent Frank Bauer confirmed Sunday that Jones has agreed to a three-year deal with the team.
Financial terms were not disclosed, but Bauer said Jones is glad to be back and the Super Bowl champions are happy to have him.
"Everybody's very, very happy," Bauer said, in a telephone interview with The Associated Press.
Several media outlets reported the deal earlier Sunday, including the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.
Jones explored the free-agent market, but several teams looking for receiving help signed other free agents. Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers has said the team should make keeping Jones a top priority.
Also Sunday, the Green Bay Post-Gazette reported that the team came to terms with running back John Kuhn.
Speaking to reporters in Green Bay earlier Sunday, Rodgers said he still was holding out hope that Jones and free agent running back John Kuhn both would return to the team.
"I am, yeah, for sure," Rodgers said. "He's an important part of this team. He plays a big role for us. We need to add him back, I think. We need to add John Kuhn back. Those are two guys out there right now who are important to us. It's not my decision, but I'm definitely pulling for those guys to bring 'em back."
Packers coach Mike McCarthy said earlier Sunday that he hoped to have both players back after losing guard Daryn Colledge to the Arizona Cardinals, defensive lineman Cullen Jenkins to the Philadelphia Eagles and backup running back Brandon Jackson to the Cleveland Browns in free agency. The Packers have retained kicker Mason Crosby.
"You're always hopeful to keep your own players," McCarthy told reporters in Green Bay. "So, yeah, I'm hopeful that both of those guys are able to come back. Just like the men that left here. You don't want to lose your own guys, that's for sure. That's the way we're built. We draft them and develop them, but the reality is you can't keep everybody. It's hard to see some go. That's just the nature of our program."
Jones, a third-round draft pick out of San Jose State in 2007, has 149 catches for 2,069 yards and 13 touchdowns in four seasons. He also has three touchdowns in seven playoff games. He had five catches for 50 yards in the Super Bowl victory over the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Jones' return leaves the Packers well-stocked at wide receiver, including Greg Jennings, Donald Driver, Jordy Nelson and second-round draft pick Randall Cobb. Brett Swain and a handful of lesser-known players also will get a look during training camp. \:d/
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Thank fuck for that <3 Kuhn. He's the man you want if you're third and goal. What a beast.
Peyton Manning has signed a new $90m 4 year contract with the Colts. It's worth more per season than Tom Brady's entire contract.
Exactly how big IS the Salary cap?
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Nine years later the Dolphins again trade for a Heismen Trophy winner from the Saints (previously Ricky Williams), Reggie Bush! They agreed for a 2year contract for 10 million.
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Stoked at the draft in the fantasy league.
QB: Matt Ryan, Matt Stafford (BN) RB: Matt Forte, Reggie Bush, Michael Bush (BN), Mark Ingram (BN) WR: Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, Kenny Britt (BN) Micheal Crabtree (BN), Mike Thomas (BN) TE: Jared Cook K: Dan Carpenter DEF: Eagles DEF Players: James Laurinitis, Lawrence Timmons
Stoked with those WR corps.
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OMG, am I glad we went with the autodraft! :lol:
QB: Peyton Manning, Sam Bradford(BN) RB: Chris Johnson, Jamaal Charles, Ronnie Brown(BN), Fred Jackson(BN), Ryan Mathews(BN) WR: Brandon Marshall, Jeremy Macklin, Mario Manningham (BN) TE: Dallas Clark W/R: Ray Rice K: Seb Janikowski DEF: Baltimore Ravens LB: Ray Lewis LB: Clay Matthews
Looks like I'm a little heavy on RB's, even the WR or RB slot is a back. So I'm open to trades on WR's, esp. whoever got Greg Jennings. :d
Mmmm, Afro, somehow you managed to get Rodgers, Grant, Jennings and Crosby. Looks suspicious, 'cept you didn't get Mathews.:-k
Edited by f1worldchamp: 1/8/2011 09:12:33 PM
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QB: Brady, Romo RB: Ahmad Bradshaw, Frank Gore, Jahvid Best, Ryan Torain WR: Colston, Welker, Bryant, Knox TE: Gates, Miller R/B: Bowe K: Bryant DEF: Green Bay LB: Suggs, Beason
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Jason Taylor Returns to the Miami Dolphins!! For the third time he returns to Miami, will he be called a traitor after leaving and coming back three times?
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Quote:Mmmm, Afro, somehow you managed to get Rodgers, Grant, Jennings and Crosby. Looks suspicious, 'cept you didn't get Mathews. I Wasn't even at the computer when the draw was done, ask the owner of Sack Exchange. I just had a lot of packers at the top end of my draw. I'm pretty heavy on the QB's, picking up Rodgers AND Freeman is a huge win. QB: Rodgers, Freeman RB: Grand, Mendenhall, Steward (BN), Thomas (BN) WR: Jennings, Wallace, Holmes, Ward (BN), Braylon Edwards (BN) TE: Vernon Davis, Owen DAniels (BN) LB: Urlacher, Lofton K: Crosby DEF: Giants. Looking to transfer the Giants for the Patriots in defence, but other than that I'm pretty happy at this point in time. Not sure about the RB's though.
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Based around last season's efforts: Sack Exchange: 2672.9 Lombardi's Legends: 2816.88 Supple Dumpers: 2798.92 Afroman FC: 2364.62 *Ryan Grand out injured, Rookie RB. Brady's Bunch: 2500.2 Cowra Eagles: 2269.84 Multiple Scorgazms: 2298.68 TN Shakers: 2156.8 *Rookie RB.
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Made a few changes to my team, added around 100 to my rankings from last season...I don't know whether or not to risk having a Rookie RB on my team.
Added up my points projections and got 2683.83. Does anyone know if you get half points for players on the bench or something?
I just realised I've got a 6 players who will be out week 8...need to do something about that :-k
Been hearing some really impressive things about Randall Cobb at the Packers training camp. Looks to be the cream of this year's crop.
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You will get no points for your bench players. That's where managing skills come in. Looking at who stands to have a big week. Come the playoffs, bench players will be the tie breaker.
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I'm mostly concerned about having too many players out week 8.
Who wants to do business with me for Josh Freeman?
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Quote:Fan sues Sav Rocca over stray football Peter Mitchell From: AAP August 05, 2011 11:34AM SAV Rocca is in legal hot water in the US - and it has nothing to do with the former AFL star's work visa problems. A woman has filed a lawsuit against Rocca and his former NFL team, the Philadelphia Eagles, claiming she suffered "severe, diverse and permanent injuries'' after Rocca kicked a ball into the stands during a fan appreciation night at Philadelphia's Lincoln Financial Field on August 2, 2009. The lawsuit claims Rocca directed a fan to throw the ball back to him, but the fan's throw "missed, causing the football to directly strike'' Debra A Campana who was sitting in, or about, the third row from the field. Campana suffered a left forearm and wrist displaced fracture, other injuries and "severe physical pain, mental anguish and humiliation'', the lawsuit claims. Campana's lawyer alleges the Eagles were careless, reckless and negligent and failed to have procedures and personnel in place to return footballs retrieved from the stands. Rocca, who was signed by the Washington Redskins last week, was a punter on the Philadelphia Eagles between 2007 and 2010. Campana is seeking more than $US75,000. Rocca, the Philadelphia Eagles and The Eagles Charitable Foundation are named as defendants in the lawsuit. Rocca was expected to join his Redskins teammates this week in Virginia for pre-season training, but has been stranded in Australia unable to secure a US work visa. Redskins special teams coach Danny Smith said Rocca had sent a message to the team saying he expected to have his visa and be in the US by Saturday night. The Redskins' first pre-season game is against the Pittsburgh Steelers on August 12. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/confidential/fan-sues-sav-rocca-over-stray-football/story-fn9eu7in-1226108988504
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That's a fortnight's wages for Rocca. But nonetheless, that's a fucking bullshit lawsuit. I mean, how much of a cunt do you have to be to sue a charity?
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If that fan threw the ball so hard that it broke the woman's wrist, maybe the team should sign him up!
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He's probably a better throw than Vince Young :P
Giants first round draft pick, CB Prince Amukamara has limped out of training with a broken foot and could be out of the season.
DeSean Jackson looks to end his hiatus from training with the Eagles as he searches for a well deserved pay-rise and new contract, as the fourth year of his rookie deal ends at the end of the season. Meanwhile, the normally quiet Eagles QB Michael Vick has responded angrily to Lions Defensive Co-ordinator Ryan's comments that the Eagles are the All-Hype team, saying that Ryan is 'all talk'.
Also, that Brett Favre fuckbag has distanced himself from talks of a comeback with Miami Dolphins.
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Brett Favre is like my slutty ex-girlfriend, goes down early and keeps coming back for more.
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Does your slutty ex-girlfriend send you pictures of her cock?
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Just bought a Clay Matthews Authentic (as opposed to Replica) white jersey on ebay for $35. I'm going to be pissed off if it's not legit :lol: it looks like they're bought direct from the Reebok factory. May be awesome.
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Pre-season games start this weekend.
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f1worldchamp wrote:Pre-season games start this weekend.
\:d/ \:d/ \:d/ YEEEEES. Being home tomorrow. Seahawks vs Chargers at 10am on ESPN. \:d/ \:d/ \:d/
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One tuff SOB. Glad he's on my fantasy team! Quote:GREEN BAY, Wis. -- Clay Matthews' tolerance for pain and being able to play through discomfort were put to the test for several weeks last season.
The Green Bay Packers' linebacker said this week that he suffered a stress fracture in his left leg midway through the season.
"It hurt," Matthews said Wednesday. "I don't know what you'd relate it to, but it hurt pretty good."
Matthews needed time off from practice to recover, but the injury didn't stop him from playing each week. He said the leg was fine by the end of the regular season and didn't hold him back from helping the Packers get hot in the playoffs to win the Super Bowl.
"I wouldn't have put myself out there on the field if I was going to hurt this team," said Matthews, who finished with a team-high 17 sacks, including the playoffs.
After taking a month off following the win over Pittsburgh, Matthews trained hard at home in an offseason dominated by the NFL lockout and says he is pain-free for the start of this season.
Matthews has missed only one practice -- the storm-shortened Family Night workout at Lambeau Field last weekend -- in the first two weeks of camp.
Matthews also expects to play in the Packers' preseason opener Saturday at Cleveland, though he hadn't received word from the coaches as of Wednesday about his status for the game. Matthews suited up for only one preseason game his first two years as a pro because of recurring hamstring injuries.
"I joke with him this is actually his first camp fully participating," nose tackle B.J. Raji said. "So, I was impressed with that, just how he was able to come out of the gate flying."
Of course, Matthews did the same thing last year after missing most of camp with an injured hamstring. He had three sacks in each of the first two games, the only Packer to do that in back-to-back outings.
So whether Matthews needs the live reps in preseason play is an argument he said cuts both ways.
"Obviously, I've been able to do it last year, for instance, coming off missing all four preseason games and showing up on the first game being ready to roll," Matthews said. "But at the same time, you want to be out there to really sharpen your skill knowing that you're out there and you're ready to roll."
The Packers open the regular season Sept. 8 against New Orleans, but Matthews feels strong enough physically and mentally to start playing the games that count now.
"I think I'm ready to go as far as it may take others four or five weeks to get ready for the season, I feel like I can do it off maybe a week or two of work," Matthews said.
He reported lighter for camp in late July after going full throttle six days a week for about four months with his personal trainer in Southern California. The cardiovascular workouts enhanced Matthews' conditioning and endurance.
"It was good as far as the running schedule I was on, when I wanted to peak going into camp and taking some time off here and there," Matthews said. "It was really strategically mapped out, so I think that's what's really helped me out so far."
And the broken leg that few knew about last year hasn't been an issue. It was kept under wraps the second half of the season, when the Packers listed Matthews as having a shin injury on the weekly injury report.
"I knew because me and Clay talk about things, but most of the guys probably didn't know," Raji said. "Clay's a tough guy. He's not always nagging and complaining about stuff."
Matthews, the runner-up to Pittsburgh safety Troy Polamalu for The Associated Press' Defensive Player of the Year honor, defended the team's tack in not revealing the severity of the injury.
"For the simple fact of why let your weaknesses out there?" Matthews said. "I look at it from a standpoint of teams looking at me and trying to get after me. But I'm all healed up now. So, hopefully, I can stay healthy." http://espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp11/story/_/id/6852635/clay-matthews-green-bay-packers-played-leg-fracture-2010
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Stress fracture? Didn't he play with a broken finger at one point too? The guy's a fucking machine. Makes me glad I just got a jersey with his name on it.
So glad pre-season is on! I'm fucking stoked! I signed up for an NFL.com gamepass so I can watch all the packers games :) What's more...ONE HD HAVE CONFIRMED THEY'RE SHOWING REGULAR SEASON GAMES!
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afromanGT wrote:What's more...ONE HD HAVE CONFIRMED THEY'RE SHOWING REGULAR SEASON GAMES! Brilliant news, wasn't expecting that at all.
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Benjo wrote:afromanGT wrote:What's more...ONE HD HAVE CONFIRMED THEY'RE SHOWING REGULAR SEASON GAMES! Brilliant news, wasn't expecting that at all. Neither was I. I thought they were dumping all sports, so I'm fucking stoked to hear it. I guess it gives them some late night/early morning content and it did have a pretty strong following. I looked around on their forums and there was uproar when it was first mentioned that they might can it. For anyone who doesn't already, check out NFL Down Under on facebook. They have some great stories and get in with the news pretty sharpish.
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Eli Manning came out last night and said he thinks he's as good as Tom Brady. Good on him...but...REALLY?
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Michael Vick had a shocker today. 5/12 for 25 yards and 3 interceptions and a sacking. Eagles wend town 14-24 against the Steelers.
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afromanGT wrote:Michael Vick had a shocker today. 5/12 for 25 yards and 3 interceptions and a sacking. Eagles wend town 14-24 against the Steelers. He's going to lead me to Fantasy NFL glory. :|
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De Sean Jackson wasn't great either. I think their season is going to hinge a lot on him. He only played the first half, made 2 receptions for 8 yards total gain. Not the greatest.
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afromanGT wrote:Eli Manning came out last night and said he thinks he's as good as Tom Brady. Good on him...but...REALLY? :lol: Just because he won a Superbowl versing him
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Honestly, I'm dumbfounded if Eli genuinely believes that. He could just be drawing attention away from the rest of the squad's pre-season preparations.
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afromanGT wrote:Honestly, I'm dumbfounded if Eli genuinely believes that. He could just be drawing attention away from the rest of the squad's pre-season preparations. Just might be the plan. Giant haven't done much of anything. No big free agent signings, and IIRC even lost a few of their better players. I see a tough year ahead for them.
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They didn't have a huge draft either. Not to mention Hakeem Nicks will have a price on his head.
Big performance overnight from the Packers, cruising to a 20-28 win over a strong Cardinals outfit. Chastin West making a 97 yard TD reception and Matt Flynn throwing 5/6 for 141.
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[youtube]_jukybxIu5Y[/youtube] Massive throw, great play.
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Went down to the Rams today, Locker looked Ok, so did Hasslebeck, got burned on the opening play, 83yd TD pass from Bradford, we dominated the rest of the half. Good thing to come out the CJ holdout is how good our RBs are, 198 total yards rushing today, killed them. Lost the game through a field goal as time expired.
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Just read the report from the Panthers game. Cam Newton was 3 and out three times. Looks like another long season for Panthers fans.
Looking forward to Giants v Bears tomorrow.
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Watching the Packers v Cards game again. There's something to be said for being able to watch a game commercial free, whenever the heck you want.
Packers were really slow to start, but once they found their rhythm, Rodgers was sensational. Borell was atrocious - the lad needs to switch the fuck on. There isn't enough pass protection either, we've let in 9 sacks in 2 games. Sherrod's lack of experience is showing a lot. We're going to want Neal back.
The refs seem a little reluctant to call roughing the passer in this pre-season.
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Watched the Bears v Giants game last night. Fuck Eli Manning was good in the first half. Giants looked really good. Mind you, that could be because Jay Cutler was just terrible.
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Scratching my head trying to figure out how Vic So'oto slipped through the 2011 draft. Fantastic linebacker.
Flynn had a shocker the other night.
Remember to get your final selections in for the fantasy NFL guys, the season kicks off NEXT WEEKEND!!!
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afromanGT wrote:Scratching my head trying to figure out how Vic So'oto slipped through the 2011 draft. Fantastic linebacker.
Flynn had a shocker the other night.
Remember to get your final selections in for the fantasy NFL guys, the season kicks off NEXT WEEKEND!!! Might check my side again. Have not looked for about 2 weeks
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I hope I'm gonna have access to the net while I'm away. It's a few weeks before teams start having bye's isn't it?
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f1worldchamp wrote:I hope I'm gonna have access to the net while I'm away. It's a few weeks before teams start having bye's isn't it? Week 5 I think are the first ones
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f1worldchamp wrote:I hope I'm gonna have access to the net while I'm away. It's a few weeks before teams start having bye's isn't it? First round of byes is Week 5 with the Baltimore Ravens and Miami Dolphins.
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Quote:Graham needs new home after Cardinals cut Bradley Green | September 5th, 2011 BEN Graham's NFL career could be over after he was surprisingly cut by the Arizona Cardinals. The former Geelong captain who helped spearhead the Cardinals' charge to the Super Bowl in 2009 was dumped over the weekend by coach Ken Whisenhunt and replaced on Arizona's roster by David Zastudil. It's left Graham looking for his fourth club since making the move across to America after ending his 219-game AFL career in 2004. He's played with the New York Jets, New Orleans and Arizona over the past six years. Although he's 37, the fact that Graham plays in a low contact position should make him a sought after free agent for sides looking for a punter. But, his inconsistent form last year may sway another club from taking a punt on him. Graham played 36 games in his three years in Arizona and averaged just under 45 yards a kick. Whisenhunt would not go into why Graham was cut, other to say the decisions he made to the Cardinals' roster was "in the best interests of the team". "I can't thank Ben enough for the work he's done for us," Whisenhunt said. "He's been an important contributor to some of our good teams, certainly the Super Bowl year and the year after that. "But we just felt like where we were as a team, that (punter) was an area where we needed to improve our consistency." Over his NFL career Graham had been praised for his ability to land punts deep inside opponent's defence using the AFL-style drop punt and torpedos. He is the second Australian punter to be released before the start of the season. Former Collingwood forward Chris Bryan was released by the Jets after struggling with consistency and distance. http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/09/05/276971_local_sports.html
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ONE HD is showing Saints Packers on Friday
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'spearhead' is a bit of an exaggeration :lol: Graham won't be able to find a new team, most have fixed their Rosters and the only ones that haven't (Oakland and Minnesota) are set in the punter department.
What time is the game on Friday?
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10:30 AEST according to One HD's FB
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I take it that's AM, not PM.
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afromanGT wrote:I take it that's AM, not PM. AM
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I don't like games at that time. That means I'm going to get fuck all sleep.
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afromanGT wrote:I don't like games at that time. That means I'm going to get fuck all sleep. Go to sleep at a normalish time
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I'm working Thursday night.
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afromanGT wrote:I'm working Thursday night. Unlucky.
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Here's a guide to what matches are being shown this weekend. http://nfldownunder.com/tv-guide/australian-nfl-tv-guide-2011-week-1-opening-kickoff-editionGood site as well. You can like it on Facebook and stuff.
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Redskins v Giants on One on Monday. Shit game. If the Giants dont shit it in then there is something wrong.
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I'm thinking about starting Manning ahead of Rodgers first week purely because the Giants SHOULD smash the Redskins.
I like that we're getting 3 games a week on FTA, live.
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It's almost here. COME ON PACKERS!!!
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Cheers Foxtel for the interruption
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Rodgers looked beastly after that sack.
Good to have you back NFL.
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Packers looking supple early on. 14-0
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21-7 at Quarter time. Not one punt in the 1st quarter
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Absolutely disgusting defence from the Packers. They'd better improve for the second half. They really should be doing better. Thank fuck the offence has been amazing.
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Randall Cobb has been amazing on his debut.
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buddha69 wrote:Randall Cobb has been amazing on his debut. Absolutely NO idea how he fell all the way through to pick 64. Cobb and Jennings have been sensational. Our Defensive line as been strong, but our coverage has been poor.
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Defence is overated anyway :P
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In a match where defence has been secondary, its the Packers defence that saves the day. Pack wins 42-34 surviving a defensive interference call on the final play to come up with the win!
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What a game. Packers win 42-34, stopping the Saints with the last play of the game on the half yard line.
Jennings, Rodgers and Cobb were amazing.
Brees was unlucky, he played a really good game.
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That was so awesome
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Definitely worth of being the season opener. Memorable game. Huge return from Cobb.
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afromanGT wrote:Absolutely disgusting defence from the Packers. They'd better improve for the second half. They really should be doing better. Thank fuck the offence has been amazing. ...and guess who has them as my defense for fantasy? ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) Looking forward to the Patriots on Monday. Talking to one of my mates I've become close to this year about the NFL, turns out he's also a Patriots fan :d
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Benjo wrote:afromanGT wrote:Absolutely disgusting defence from the Packers. They'd better improve for the second half. They really should be doing better. Thank fuck the offence has been amazing. ...and guess who has them as my defense for fantasy? ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) Looking forward to the Patriots on Monday. Talking to one of my mates I've become close to this year about the NFL, turns out he's also a Patriots fan :d Three sacks, 1 recovered fumble and a TD scored 34 points. Points conceded aren't considered in the equation. Neither, it seems, is how effective the QB is. Despite the fact that Rodgers scored 132.8 compared to Brees 112.3, Brees scored more fantasy points.
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Probably the most spectacular KO return I've ever seen. The first time we've returned a KO for a TD since 2004. [youtube]_NNO9cX9C_U[/youtube]
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afromanGT wrote:Probably the most spectacular KO return I've ever seen. The first time we've returned a KO for a TD since 2004. [youtube]_NNO9cX9C_U[/youtube] Still cannot get over that barrel roll he does
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Quote:Still cannot get over that barrel roll he does Almost gets himself wiped out by John Kuhn in the process :lol: Then Kuhn gives him the little hurry up and he blows them apart. Absolutely sensational. The disbelief in the commentator's voice is awesome too "He was down! This is unbelievable! They flip him up-side-down! Another slip. Look at that! He basically does a barrel roll and comes out and scores a touchdown. SON. OF. A GUN."
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If I was coach, I would've gone off my nut at him for opting to return it in the first place :lol:
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Benjo wrote:If I was coach, I would've gone off my nut at him for opting to return it in the first place :lol: I don't like them taking a knee. The touchbacks are boring to watch. I like to see them try and gain ground and I like to see the defence have a chance to keep them to less than 20. Every yard makes a difference. He'd been told to take the touchback on the previous three punts and it kind of defeats the purpose for recruiting him.
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Ben Roelisburger has been absolutely terrible. Fucks my dream team right up when he's been in the red zone once all fucking game. Right now he's completed 3 of his last 9 passes and is 14/27. EDIT: And now a second interception, that's 5 turnovers from the Steelers. Every time they get in the fucking red zone, they fuck it up!
Colts came damn close to being shut out for the first time in 18 years with Kerry Collins at the controls. Not a good look for a Manning-less Indianapolis.
Loving the fact that Brian Urlacher scored a touchdown too.
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For the SIXTH time today, Steelers cough the ball up in the red zone. Dumbfounding.
EDIT: Seven.
Steelers have now had as many turnovers as they've scored points #-o Hard to believe these guys made the 'bowl based on this performance.
Roethlisburger's QB rating was 63.05. Compared to Flacco's 117.6.
Meanwhile in Houston... Collins threw for 82.3 Schaub threw for 78.5 ...in a 34-7 win. Pity there wasn't a decent QB out there to see a real mauling.
Even Fitzpatrick for the Bills threw a 133 game.
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Baltimore absolutely messed up the Steelers wow.
Results so far:
Packers 42-34 Saints Ravens 35-7 Steelers Bears 30-12 Falcons Browns 17-27 Bengals Texans 34-7 Colts Jaguars 16-14 Titans Chiefs 7-41 Bills Rams 13-31 Eagles Buccaneers 20-27 Lions Cardinals 28-21 Panthers Chargers 24-17 Vikings Redskins 28-14 Giants 49ers 33-17 Seahawks
Some really surprising results for mine. Ravens thrashing the Steelers Giants going down to the Redskins Browns going down to the Bengals. Lions did well to beat the Buccaneers as well
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TOUCHDOWN COWBOYS. Great catch by Dez Bryant
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Touchdown, Miles Austin. Dallas lead 17-7 in the third.
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:lol: Dallas
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So I decide to go back to school when we are up 24 - 10 thinking we had it won, obviously not.
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Detroit have shown that they're going to be a much stronger team this year. NFC North and AFC East look like the toughest divisions by some way.
The nly real surprise result so far was the Giants.
Did anyone see Cam Newton's performance for the Panthers? First decent game he's played so far.
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Looking forward to Patriots, shame I'll be at school
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Brady throws an Interception which leads to a Dolphins TD. 14-14 in the 3rd quarter
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Brady promptly recovers to have a break the team record for most yards in one game :lol: 517.
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Packers 42-34 Saints Ravens 35-7 Steelers Bears 30-12 Falcons Browns 17-27 Bengals Texans 34-7 Colts Jaguars 16-14 Titans Chiefs 7-41 Bills Rams 13-31 Eagles Buccaneers 20-27 Lions Cardinals 28-21 Panthers Chargers 24-17 Vikings Redskins 28-14 Giants 49ers 33-17 Seahawks Jets 27-24 Cowboys Dolphins 24-38 Patriots Broncos 20-23 Raiders
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Surprised the Bills flogged the Chiefs by that much
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Bills QB had a blinder.
Got to watch the Patriots game last night while I was working, absolutely amazing performance from Brady. Definitely announcing their intent to be at the 'bowl this season.
Pats v Packers for the super bowl, anyone?
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Definitely a possibility. Bray was phenomenal. Nate Solder had an awesome first game as well at Guard. Gronkowski and Hernandez both looked very strong at Tight-End, sure they'll improve even more as the season goes along.
Only downside was the injury to Koppen. Luckily Connolly stepped up big time.
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The two Gronkowski's will have a good season. Their WR stocks are ridiculous this season too.
Is it wrong to secretly hope that James Jones gets injured at some point so Chastin West gets promoted from the practice squad and gets some game time because I think he's better than Jones?
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Was looking forward to a match this morning. But there is no Thursday Night Football for another month or so
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God help us this weekend, Ravens at LP. We cant beat the Jags, they smashed the Steelers.
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buddha69 wrote:Was looking forward to a match this morning. But there is no Thursday Night Football for another month or so Not until after the first bye week. Quote:God help us this weekend, Ravens at LP. We cant beat the Jags, they smashed the Steelers. Going to be a blow-out there. Steelers v Seahawks, Packers v Panthers, Eagles v Falcons and Patriots v Broncos are the games to watch this week.
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It's showtime. Some big questions to be answered tonight...
Is Cam Newton for real? Playing against a SB hardened defence will throw things at him he's never seen before. Can he stand up?
How badly do the Giants need a win? They haven't won since last season and things are looking shaky for them.
Are the Bears the real deal? After a huge result last week, can they back it up and demolish the saints' prolific offence?
How much mettle do the Steelers have? Can they bounce back from last week's capitulation in Baltimore.
Stoked for kick-off.
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30-23, Newton wasn't a complete pushover. He was definitely helped by some shocking coverage from the CB's early on though. Even in an average looking game, Rodgers threw for a 119.8 rating. Newton threw for a huge 432 yards but only rated a 72.0.
Somehow the Raiders have surrendered a 21-3 half time lead to go down 38-35 to the Bills. Go figure. FIVE lead changes in that game and a hail-mary pass on the final play to steal the game for Oakland intercepted in the end-zone by the Bills.
The Steelers annihilated the Seahawks in a shut-out 24-0. Big yards for Wallace and Mendenhall.
The jets smashed Jacksonville despite Sanchez only throwing for 182 yards.
Matt Cassel had a shocker for Kansas as they got thrashed 48-3.
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Colt McCoy baby. Lead the Browns to a win over the Colts. Shaker will be happy. Titans got a win over the Ravens.
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Quote:Colt McCoy baby. Lead the Browns to a win over the Colts. That's not much to celebrate. I think the Chiefs and Colts will be this season's whipping boys. The Chiefs are definitely struggling. I was surprised to see the Titans win. Once again the Patriots did it with ease. Another 400+ yard game for Brady, but it will be interesting to see what happens when he comes up against a real defence like the Jets in week 5 and the Steelers in week 8. Also a little surprised that the Falcons got up. Once again I've managed to fool the Fantasy predictor and come up with more points than expected and take a win, unless Bradshaw scores a ridiculous 37.40 for Benjo :lol:. Stoked. Bears next week for the Packers should test their offensive co-ordination and a trip to the falcons 2 weeks later will definitely be interesting.
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Looking like I will get a win this week. 20 points ahead of Tiny and we both have 1 player left to play.
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Your player is benched though, so no impact. I doubt Brandon Jacobs is going to score over 20 though.
I can't believe Sack Exchange just won 132+-130 against avy :lol:
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Shaker wrote:God help us this weekend, Ravens at LP. We cant beat the Jags, they smashed the Steelers. So very happy to be so wrong.
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That was probably the biggest upset of the week.
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Managed to get a win in Fantasy this week. Have got Sack Exchange this week. Going to be tough!
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Sack Exchange has been scoring ~130 each week. Big ask.
I'm quite happy with being in second, looking forward to Cowra this week. I think I've finally got my team how I want it, but we'll see.
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Currently 2-0 in our fantasy league, just got up thanks to me having 1 player playing on MNF. Confident of winning again this week as well. My WR crop are effin amazing, ive had Kenny britt on the bench for the last 2 weeks, and he has had 100+ receiving yards both weeks, considering i already have C. Johnson(Det), Fitzgerald(Cards) and A.Johnson(Texans) starting already, it makes up for my weak RBs
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Shaker wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SORs_NqooKQ&feature=player_embedded Someone took a one-hander while holding off the CB for Dallas last week. I forget who. Was a nice catch but wasn't in the end-zone so didn't get much highlight coverage. Hanging out for Bears v Packers and Bucs v Falcons this week.
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afromanGT wrote:Shaker wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SORs_NqooKQ&feature=player_embedded Someone took a one-hander while holding off the CB for Dallas last week. I forget who. Was a nice catch but wasn't in the end-zone so didn't get much highlight coverage. Hanging out for Bears v Packers and Bucs v Falcons this week. Hakeem Nicks it was Afro
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Quote:Hakeem Nicks it was Afro Nicks plays for the Giants? I didn't watch the Giants game. I'm pretty sure it was Miles Austin.
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afromanGT wrote:Quote:Hakeem Nicks it was Afro Nicks plays for the Giants? I didn't watch the Giants game. I'm pretty sure it was Miles Austin. Maybe that was the week before. He made an awesome catch that's all I remember
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I'm still pretty impressed with some of the catches Steve Smith made last week. If Panthers can get a running game together, Newton can be a real threat in coming seasons.
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Could the Warriors get any more help from the ref tonight? :lol:
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afromanGT wrote:Could the Warriors get any more help from the ref tonight? :lol: Yeah, and now they're in the Superbowl.
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Yeah, paying attention so much I did what Joffa has done half a dozen times. Hanging my head in shame.
Not sure what to make of the predictions for the bears v packers match.
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I said during the week that Pats v Bills would be a shoot-out, and that's exactly what it was. 34-31 to the Bills.
OT win for Detroit and they stay 3-0, quality second half performance there to roll the Vikings.
Somehow the 49ers came out on top against the Bengals despite not entering their offensive half until the 7th minute of the third quarter :?
Good to see Cam Newton direct the Panthers to his first win in torrential rain in Carolina.
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 Giggity. Solid win by the packers. A fair few dodgey calls going both ways there. The holding call right at the death against the Bears was the worst though, no idea what was going on there. Greg Jennings got off to a flier in the first quarter but he didn't seem to get up to much for the second and third quarters. HUGE game by McFadden for the raiders in their 34-24 win over the jets. Slightly surprised by that result. Cruisey wins for Baltimore and the Bucs. Edited by afromanGT: 26/9/2011 09:47:17 AM
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Still in shock Brady threw FOUR turnovers. I had a feeling the Bills would finally land a win this weekend, but to do lose after leading by so much and Brady unraveling like that...it's hurts even more.
On the flip side, I think Brady's gonna be wanting to make amends for this. Watch out for his next match methinks.
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The Bills cover was superb. Brady is indeed mortal though. The Pats had to lose sooner or later. But that was their 15th game in a row over 30 points IIRC.
Brady didn't unravel, the Bills just played a great game.
I'm shattered that I lost in fantasy because of Starks' fumble. Not impressed.
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Romo's a pretty tough nut. Massive respect for him recovering his stock after the debacle of week one.
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Romo really struggled to find the end zone this morning, but then one can't blame him with a fractured rib. I was quite impressed that he steered Dallas to a win there. It was more down to the inability of his WR's. They couldn't connect on a 1st and goal at the 2 yard line, which is really unforgivable.
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Games to watch this weekend.
Panthers v Bears will be a huge game this weekend. Both sides need to consolidate form and the offensive line at the Bears has a lot of work to do and the Panthers could pull off an upset here.
Steelers v Houston will be two sides up against it looking to be on the cusp of play-offs, Steelers should pull one out.
Giants v Arizona will be a game of interceptions and fumbles with two out-of-form offences taking each other on.
Game of the weekend though will be Bengals v Bills. Bills are on a roll and the Bengals are looking for a reason to keep selecting Dalton and he should get plenty of chances to throw in what will be a pretty open backfield.
Winners: Panthers, Bills, Browns, Detroit, Houston, New Orleans, Minnesota, Eagles, Redskins (most boring game of the week), Giants, Falcons, Packers, Pats, Chargers, Baltimore, Bucs.
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Matt Forte rushed for a massive 205 yards for the Bears as they left it late to beat the Panthers. Some big tackles late on from Urlacher.
Ben Roethlisberger is playing some terrible football at the moment, he's getting little protection and struggling to read the rush and it showed in their loss to the Texans.
Definitely interesting to see the Bengals getting up on the last play of the game. Detroit have kept it together too and come back from 27-3 down, picking Romo three times to win 34-30.
Packers go 4-0 with a huge performance from Rodgers for 408 yards, 2 rushing TD's and a TD thrown to all 4 main WR's. Stellar performance. He'd be bloody close to a perfect game if he hadn't been picked. 49-23 the highest score this season to boot.
New england have kept their record respectable,they've only lost 2 in a row TWICE since 2003 and deal with the Raiders 31-19.
Chargers and Falcons also running to script.
We're in for a nail-biter here in the Giants v Cardinals game.
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Packers looking very good early. Rodgers looking MVP material at this early stage.
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:D 3-1 baby
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Benjo wrote:Packers looking very good early. Rodgers looking MVP material at this early stage. Rodgers is playing stunning football. His QB rating for the season is 124.5 so far. That'll go down when the weather cools and the ball gets a little more difficult to handle, but that's a massively impressive start to the season. Hopefully he keeps it up. That call in the Gaints v Cardinals game was ridiculous. Giants were incredibly lucky to get away with that one. How good was the last Q of the Colts v Bucs?! Also....4-0 in fantasy!
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2 and 2.
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4-0 in Fantasy and the Titans are 3-1. Stoked.
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Shaker wrote:4-0 in Fantasy and the Titans are 3-1. Stoked. Things will definitely be interesting when we meet in week 7 :-k Titans have been interesting this season, no massive performances, but enough to get the wins. Could be a play-off dark horse.
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afromanGT wrote:Shaker wrote:4-0 in Fantasy and the Titans are 3-1. Stoked. Things will definitely be interesting when we meet in week 7 :-k Titans have been interesting this season, no massive performances, but enough to get the wins. Could be a play-off dark horse. Especially with the Colts and the Jags struggling. Our matches against the Texans will be massive towards who wins the AFC South.
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The Texans will take out the AFC South, but I can see the Titans making a wildcard spot along with the Bills.
This might be a silly question, but can anyone tell me why Dallas are in the NFC Eastern conference?
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Finally got a win in Fantasy :lol: Without a starting Tight end. Not quite sure how that happened, was fine when i last checked it.
Anyone play madden at all? I'll be looking to get Madden 12 again this year. Still playing the franchise mode of 11. Won 8 out of the 13 years I've been going :lol: Got a beast tight End by the name of Xavier Gates, caught about 88 TD's in 10 years. It's also great for lulz in regards to the player's names. Currently on my roster I have WR Takoby Kelly (34 TD in 4 seasons), CB Quantavanious McNeil and SS Demetrious Olabode.
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Benjo wrote:Finally got a win in Fantasy :lol: Without a starting Tight end. Not quite sure how that happened, was fine when i last checked it.
Anyone play madden at all? I'll be looking to get Madden 12 again this year. Still playing the franchise mode of 11. Won 8 out of the 13 years I've been going :lol: Got a beast tight End by the name of Xavier Gates, caught about 88 TD's in 10 years. It's also great for lulz in regards to the player's names. Currently on my roster I have WR Takoby Kelly (34 TD in 4 seasons), CB Quantavanious McNeil and SS Demetrious Olabode. I got Madden 12 on Xbox. Outstanding game
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I'm going to pick up Madden when I get a chance, but with a trip to NZ and FM coming out I can't afford it at the moment. Hanging out to play it though, for sure.
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afromanGT wrote:I'm going to pick up Madden when I get a chance, but with a trip to NZ and FM coming out I can't afford it at the moment. Hanging out to play it though, for sure. Im not buying Madden. No real changes from 11, bought FIFA12 last week and saving for away trips plus FM means money is tight.
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The main differences between 11 and 12 would be the emergence of players like Matthews and Rodgers as 2 of the best players in the game.
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In case anyone missed it, the NFL have one-upped their decision to have the awful decision to have the Black Eyed Peas perform at least seasons 'bowl by having Madonna perform this season.
Aaron Rodgers has won the NFC offensive player of the week for the second time this season.
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Quote:Now that quarterback Aaron Rodgers has propelled the Packers to their fourth Super Bowl title, his onetime Green Bay teammate, Brett Favre, wonders why it took so long.
The iconic former Packer, speaking in a radio interview Tuesday on Atlanta's 790 The Zone, said he always expected his previously untested understudy to become his equal in that most meaningful head-to-head statistic: Super Bowl rings.
"I'm going to be honest, I was not surprised," Favre, who won his only Super Bowl in 1997, said during the interview. "The biggest surprise to me would be that he didn't do it sooner."
Favre said he realized all along how good a quarterback Rodgers could be, and had high expectations for him in this position -- in the limelight, winning his first Super Bowl in January.
But he also intimated that Rodgers' rise into elite status has been aided by a supporting cast that was better than what he when he was in Green Bay.
"He's very bright and he got a chance to watch and see successful teams do it right," Favre said of Rodgers, who is among the league leaders this season with 12 touchdown passes and 1,325 yards passing. "And so he just kind of fell into a good situation. On top of that, he's a good player. I don't think there's any pressure on him now, the talent around him is even better than when I was there."
Favre has said previously that it wasn't his job to mentor his understudies, and had acknowledged some friction with Rodgers, but also that their relationship improved.
"Aaron had a chance ... even though the last couple years it's seemed like he's almost a rookie, he's been around a while," Favre said on the radio interview. "And I'd like to think that he watched, he learned, and then when he got a chance to play, he brought in his ability -- which is obviously very good or they wouldn't have drafted him in the first round."
Rodgers bided his time, then took over the starting job from Favre four years ago -- three years after being drafted with the 24th overall pick in 2005.
After winning over skeptical fans and media opposed to his starting, he is now as revered in Green Bay as the guy who wore No. 4 there.
"I'm really kind of surprised it took him so long," Favre said. "In the early part of last season, it hadn't quite clicked yet, and I didn't know it would. I just kind of figured when they hit their stride, they're going to be hard to beat. And that's what happened."
On Wednesday, 790 The Zone released a statement saying Favre's comments were taken out of context by the national media. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7061578/brett-favre-asks-why-aaron-rodgers-super-bowl-title-ring-green-bay-packers-took-longMy favourite player for so long, now I wish he'd just go away. :cry:
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How the fuck was he meant to do it sooner? Favre was always going to be the starting QB as long as he was at the Packers. He made the Play-offs in his second starting season and then won the 'bowl in his Third starting season, it doesn't get much 'sooner' than that!
Also, Ben Graham as re-joined the Cardinals.
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RIP Al Davis.
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Twas a smart bet for anyone who got on the raiders to get up this week after the passing of Davis.
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Packers have conceded a TD off the opening drive of all 5 of their games so far this season. Something drastic needs to be done about their defensive coverage.
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You don't need to do anything drastic when you're 4-0. And it's not exactly panic stations at 4-1 either.
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The team is 4-0 and has conceded 97 points. That's the highest total in something like 18 years. They won't be returning to the 'bowl with this kind of defensive coverage that's for sure. Having Nick Collins out isn't helping, but they need a better second CB.
And the O-line hasn't given Rodgers and the RB's nearly enough coverage this game.
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afromanGT wrote:The team is 4-0 and has conceded 97 points. That's the highest total in something like 18 years. They won't be returning to the 'bowl with this kind of defensive coverage that's for sure. Having Nick Collins out isn't helping, but they need a better second CB.
And the O-line hasn't given Rodgers and the RB's nearly enough coverage this game. In case you forgot, you only need to score more then the opposition to win, and so far they've done that. Relax dude, championships aren't won in October.
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That has got to be the most bullshit unsportsmanlike conduct call of all time. Especially after a fair catch was signaled and the receiver was hit anyway.
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Despite their frailties in coverage and playing 5 rookies the packers pick up a solid if unspectacular win. Rodgers threw for a 117 rating, taking his career rating to 100.5 - spectacular.
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And you were worried. ;) 5-0! \:d/
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I still think some improvements need to be made. It didn't help when Clifton went down, that's for sure. I just don't think our coverage is switched on enough. We've conceded an insane amount of yards.
FTR, every single defending champion who has gone 6-0 has gone on to win the title (IIRC, 4 times that's happened).
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Filthy that i missed the Patriots this morning. Checked ESPN, but forgot to check One. Found out this morning I missed it.
Always good to get a win over Rex Ryan :d
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You didn't miss much, really. Pats carved Jets up the middle and Mark Sanchez threw like a big girl most of the game.
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Detroit's win today puts them 5-0 for the first time since 1956.
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afromanGT wrote:Detroit's win today puts them 5-0 for the first time since 1956. Stafford still didn't do enough for me to win in our fantasy comp. :twisted: Typical that Schaub would finally pull his finger out after I benched him. #-o
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f1worldchamp wrote:afromanGT wrote:Detroit's win today puts them 5-0 for the first time since 1956. Stafford still didn't do enough for me to win in our fantasy comp. :twisted: Typical that Schaub would finally pull his finger out after I benched him. #-o Matt Schaub's been fucking useless this season. Probably symptomatic of their running game being their main threat. This week was my first loss. I should still be top though.
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afromanGT wrote:f1worldchamp wrote:afromanGT wrote:Detroit's win today puts them 5-0 for the first time since 1956. Stafford still didn't do enough for me to win in our fantasy comp. :twisted: Typical that Schaub would finally pull his finger out after I benched him. #-o Matt Schaub's been fucking useless this season. Probably symptomatic of their running game being their main threat. This week was my first loss. I should still be top though. Which is why I dumped him! He was only supposed to be the backup to Peyton Manning anyway. Shows how fantasy points and success on the field aren't always the same.
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Quote:Which is why I dumped him! He was only supposed to be the backup to Peyton Manning anyway. Shows how fantasy points and success on the field aren't always the same. I wouldn't say the Texans have been entirely successful on the field, but things swing the other way as well - look at the Eagles.
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afromanGT wrote:Quote:Which is why I dumped him! He was only supposed to be the backup to Peyton Manning anyway. Shows how fantasy points and success on the field aren't always the same. I wouldn't say the Texans have been entirely successful on the field :? That was my point, Stafford led the Lions to a win but only scored 14.86 fantasy points, while the Schaub and the Texans lost but he scored 22.64.
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f1worldchamp wrote:afromanGT wrote:Quote:Which is why I dumped him! He was only supposed to be the backup to Peyton Manning anyway. Shows how fantasy points and success on the field aren't always the same. I wouldn't say the Texans have been entirely successful on the field :? That was my point, Stafford led the Lions to a win but only scored 14.86 fantasy points, while the Schaub and the Texans lost but he scored 22.64. Honestly, I've got no points how they work out the QB points. 6 points for each TD is 12 points, less 2 for the interception. So 219 yards got him just 4.86 points, or a point every 45 yards. Matt Schaub scored 2 TD's, threw 2 interceptions - so 8 points, scored 2 points for a fumble recovery and 416 yards make up the rest of his 12.64 points. So a point every 32.9 yards. Do they calculate it on YPA?
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ESPN wrote:MILWAUKEE -- Cheeseheads around the world might soon have a chance to own a piece of the Super Bowl champs. The Green Bay Packers, the NFL's only publicly owned team, are moving toward a new stock sale by the end of the year to raise money that would help pay for $130 million in renovations at historic Lambeau Field. Each share likely would cost about $200 and include voting rights, though the value wouldn't appreciate and there would be no dividends. Stockholders would be able to attend annual meetings at Lambeau, and they'd enjoy such perks as tours of the playing field and locker rooms. Best of all, they could legitimately call themselves NFL owners. That last reason seals the deal for Staughton Wade, 29, a lifelong Indianapolis Colts fan. "I'd absolutely buy a share," said Wade, of Fort Wayne, Ind. "It's a unique thing having the opportunity to buy a share of any NFL team, and the Packers are the only team you can do that with." The NFL planned to brief the other teams about the proposal at a league meeting Tuesday. An owners' vote won't be necessary because the proposal meets the same conditions established in 1997, the last time Green Bay sold stock, NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said. He said the league allows the Packers to sell stock as long as the money is used only for capital costs such as stadium improvements. The Packers plan to add thousands of seats and other stadium amenities in time for the 2013 season. While other teams often ask taxpayers to help pay for building upgrades, the Packers will foot the entire bill themselves through the stock sale and private financing. That's one reason Michael Constantine, a 26-year-old Wisconsin native who now lives in Seattle, intends to buy a share or two. "I feel like the American public has spent enough over the last 20, 30 years to build and renovate stadiums," said Constantine, a staunch Packers fan. "I prefer the sale of stock to raising any sales tax." The stock sale would be the fifth in Packers' history. There are currently 112,205 shareholders who own a total of 4.75 million shares. Just as businesses have to enter a quiet period before going public, the Packers say they can't reveal much until regulatory issues are resolved. "We intend to keep our fans informed of further developments to the greatest extent possible," said Jason Wied, the team's vice president of administration/general counsel. If the team gets final approval, the stock sale could begin within weeks. Christmas shoppers take note, though: Shares of stock can't be resold, and transfer of shares is generally limited to immediate relatives and heirs. Nathan Bitzer, 36, already is a shareholder, but he plans to buy a share or two for his daughters, ages 3 and 4. The St. Paul, Minn., resident said being a part-owner is a fun privilege even if the share has no resale value. "I put 'NFL owner' in my Facebook profile," he said. "It's a pretty unique thing, even though I acknowledge it's pretty useless. I mean, it's not like I'm chumming with (Dallas Cowboys owner) Jerry Jones or (Minnesota Vikings owner) Zygi Wilf." The Packers have been a publicly owned nonprofit corporation since 1923. The team held its first stock sale that year, followed by sales in 1935 and 1950 that helped keep the franchise afloat while other small-markets teams were going under. The team's only other stock offering was in 1997. The team president at the time, Bob Harlan, was looking for ways to cover stadium renovation costs. He recalled that other owners balked, worried that the Packers would use the money to compensate their coaches or improve their roster in a way other teams couldn't. It only was after Pittsburgh Steelers owner Dan Rooney joined commissioner Paul Tagliabue in supporting the idea that the proposal passed. Rooney argued that the Packers deserved unanimous support because they were a vital part of NFL history. The subsequent vote was unanimous. Some 400,000 shares went on sale for $200 apiece. About 120,000 shares were sold, raising $24 million. "We tried to come up with a figure that would be affordable to everyone," Harlan said. "We never got one complaint about them being too expensive." While the Packers organization couldn't say much about a new stock sale, Aiello, the NFL spokesman, said the team plans to sell the shares left over from 1997. The new price hasn't been released but it's expected to be in the same $200 range. Joel Tchao of Fremont, Calif., plans to buy in. Even though the software engineer is a San Francisco 49ers fan, he said the small-market Packers were a feel-good story in contrast to deep-pocketed Goliaths. "It's nice to see the lone publicly owned team beat all the other teams that have rich owners, and win the Super Bowl," said Tchao, 37. Wade, the Colts fan, acknowledged that he also had a slightly devious reason for wanting to be a Packers part-owner -- to needle his Indiana co-workers who are Green Bay fans. "For them to know a big Colts fan has the ability to influence the direction of their team, that would drive them nuts," he joked. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7084560/green-bay-packers-expected-offer-more-stock-public Well...I'm in.
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afromanGT wrote:f1worldchamp wrote:afromanGT wrote:Quote:Which is why I dumped him! He was only supposed to be the backup to Peyton Manning anyway. Shows how fantasy points and success on the field aren't always the same. I wouldn't say the Texans have been entirely successful on the field :? That was my point, Stafford led the Lions to a win but only scored 14.86 fantasy points, while the Schaub and the Texans lost but he scored 22.64. Honestly, I've got no points how they work out the QB points. 6 points for each TD is 12 points, less 2 for the interception. So 219 yards got him just 4.86 points, or a point every 45 yards. Matt Schaub scored 2 TD's, threw 2 interceptions - so 8 points, scored 2 points for a fumble recovery and 416 yards make up the rest of his 12.64 points. So a point every 32.9 yards. Do they calculate it on YPA? When you set up the league it would have given you the option to customise the scoring settings. I assume you didn't change them, so it should be this: 1 point per 25 yards passing Passing Touchdowns = 4 points Interceptions = -2 points Rushing & Receiving Yards = 1 point per 10 yards Rushing & Receiving Touchdowns = 6 points I am so in if I get the chance to buy Packers stock. I LOL'd at the guy who puts 'NFL Owner' on this FB page.
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That would be crazy.
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Quote:I am so in if I get the chance to buy Packers stock. I LOL'd at the guy who puts 'NFL Owner' on this FB page. Don't lie, you'd do it too. I know I would. Quote:When you set up the league it would have given you the option to customise the scoring settings. I assume you didn't change them, so it should be this: 1 point per 25 yards passing Passing Touchdowns = 4 points Interceptions = -2 points Rushing & Receiving Yards = 1 point per 10 yards Rushing & Receiving Touchdowns = 6 points I didn't change the scoring settings. Should have made it more than 2 points for a sack though. Honestly, I think it should be calculated on YPA instead of just yards gained. That way guys like Newton and Hasselbeck who are airing it out for long but ineffective yards aren't as well rewarded as guys who are consistently scoring big passer ratings like Brady, Rodgers and Brees. Edited by afromanGT: 14/10/2011 09:48:37 PM
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afromanGT wrote:Quote:I am so in if I get the chance to buy Packers stock. I LOL'd at the guy who puts 'NFL Owner' on this FB page. Don't lie, you'd do it too. I know I would. Quote:When you set up the league it would have given you the option to customise the scoring settings. I assume you didn't change them, so it should be this: 1 point per 25 yards passing Passing Touchdowns = 4 points Interceptions = -2 points Rushing & Receiving Yards = 1 point per 10 yards Rushing & Receiving Touchdowns = 6 points I didn't change the scoring settings. Should have made it more than 2 points for a sack though. Honestly, I think it should be calculated on YPA instead of just yards gained. That way guys like Newton and Hasselbeck who are airing it out for long but ineffective yards aren't as well rewarded as guys who are consistently scoring big passer ratings like Brady, Rodgers and Brees. Edited by afromanGT: 14/10/2011 09:48:37 PM See, this is where the line between the real game and fantasy lies. There are a number of lousy QB's that put up good fantasy numbers because their teams are crap. They are usually playing from behind and have to throw to keep up. Look at Cam Newton and Kyle Orton. Both have a 400+ passing yard on their stat sheet already this season, but their teams suck. They aren't going to beat Rodgers and Brady over the season, but on any given week they might make or break you! Look at Schaub last week. 416yards 2TD 2int, 22.64 points vs say Brees's 359yards 2TD 1int and only 20.36 points.
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To be fair, you're not factoring in a team's running game and QB's aren't the be-all and end all of a team. That said, Orton is probably the worst starting QB in the league. Cam Newton has huge potential and this season is just a precursor of what's to come.
Expect another week of big performances from Stafford.
Picks this week: Falcons, Bengals, Detroit, Packers, Giants, Steelers, Redskins, Ravens, Raiders, Pats, Saints, Bears, Jets.
The only game that's up in the air is Bills v Giants.
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Rodgers was 154.9 passer rating for the first half. So close to potentially throwing a perfect game but he fell away in the second half, threw an interception through Jennings' hands and the third and fourth were entirely dull, neither team scored and Rodgers finished with a 119.6. There were some really bizarre play selections by the Rams too. Somehow we conceded over 400 yards again too. Something needs to be done about that.
Dunno why I backed the redskins, they were 0/6 third down conversions And to make things worse, they get the interception on the 20 and then give it back 2 downs later. :lol: turrible.
Falcons, Bengals and Steelers performed essentially as expected. The Steelers really shouldn't have conceded as many points as they did though. Especially with 5 sacks.
Giants v Buffalo went down to the wire but Manning's experience got the Giants home. Though he almost got picked off just like he did v Seahawks last week.
Lions are unable to hold on against the 49ers and the Packers are now the only undefeated team left.
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afromanGT wrote:To be fair, you're not factoring in a team's running game and QB's aren't the be-all and end all of a team. That said, Orton is probably the worst starting QB in the league. Cam Newton has huge potential and this season is just a precursor of what's to come. What I was talking about was the phenomenon of lousy QB's putting up good fantasy numbers. Against the Packers, Orton scored 17.62 in our league. No one would say Jason Campbell was a top QB, but in week 2 he put up 25.22 and in week 4 18.66. Michael Vick only scored 16.88 this week. I understand there are a huge number of factors that surround this, but my point was the real vs fantasy value of some of these players. On another note, 6-0 baby! First time Packers have been 6-0 since 1965. And with Detroit going down, the only undefeated team in the league! Woo Hoo!\:d/ And I broke a 2 game losing streak in fantasy. :lol:
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Orton scored big points because of the yardage conceded by the Packers. That was his best score of the season, and let's be honest, plenty of other weeks 23 points scored by Denver would be enough for a win.
As for Jason Campbell, he's not a top QB but he's in the form of his career. And he may not be racking up as many yards as the other QB's, but 7 of the 11 QB's ranked above him have thrown more interceptions than him.
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f1worldchamp wrote: And I broke a 2 game losing streak in fantasy. :lol:
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If I can beat Shaker this week I go two games clear on top.
Panthers, Browns, Lions, Denver, Jets, Bucs, Titans, Steelers, Raiders, Dallas, Packers, Saints and Ravens for the wins this week.
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For the seventh consecutive game this season, the Packers concede off the opening drive of the game. This can't keep happening. ](*,)
Thank fuck for Aaron Rodgers 7/7 on the opening drive for a TD. I'm impressed with Vikings' Ponder though. It'll be interesting to see how he goes against the blitz though.
Tim Tebow did well to get the win for the Broncos in a sloppy affair.
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Twas always going to be tough going into Minnesota with their season slowly slipping away. There's something to have a crappy season but 'at least we beat the Packers'. Let's hope they get it together in the second half.
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We're up 33-20 at the moment. Matthews has 3 sacks so far (more than his entire season to date). Woodson has two picks, but every time they throw to Tramon Williams' side I worry. We need to draft a CB this year for sure, let him learn off Woodson while he can.
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Well, they made hard work of that. But Minne at home were always going to be tougher than it looked on paper. Good to see Mathews in some form. My fantasy team needed help from somewhere after Stafford was MIA this morning.
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Oakland without Campbell get shut-out. Dallas do it easy over the rams.
Packers wind down the clock masterfully and go 7-0 for the first time since 1972 (the year that the Miami Dolphins ran the table, no less). Rodgers blows a perfect game in the second half for the second week in a row, but still finishes for a 146.5 rating. The bye next week will do some aching bodies good (especially Tramon Williams and Sam Shields).
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Fuck. Pissed we lost to the Steelers. Our pass defense is just shite. It was bad last year, and then we let Merriweather go. Been even worse since. Big Ben wS mighty good against us. Didn't deserve a win, but you've got to wonder what would happen if we'd challenged e decision not to give Gronkowski a TD with 4.11 on the clock left. We didn't end up scoring till just before the 2 minute warning.
St Louis beat the Daints. Wow.
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Benjo wrote:Fuck. Pissed we lost to the Steelers. Our pass defense is just shite. It was bad last year, and then we let Merriweather go. Been even worse since. Big Ben wS mighty good against us. Didn't deserve a win, but you've got to wonder what would happen if we'd challenged e decision not to give Gronkowski a TD with 4.11 on the clock left. We didn't end up scoring till just before the 2 minute warning.
St Louis beat the Daints. Wow. This. Not surprised about the Steelers though
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We haven't been as good this year. I anticipated a good match against the Steelers, but I thought we might step up for such a big game. Apparently not.
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San Diego :lol:That was just hilarious
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Phil Rivers will want to forget that game. Poor guy, always liked him.
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buddha69 wrote:Not surprised about the Steelers though You should be. The way they've been performing against big throwing teams has been nothing short of attrocious. They're only good at shutting down a running game. Definitely an interesting week for results. Really not sure what to make of the Rams game. I think perhaps the Saints just beat themselves. Phil Rivers has just made me cringe this season.
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2 different fantasy leagues I'm in this season and for both I thought I got some really good QB's in the draft. One was Peyton Manning and the other was Phillip Rivers. FML.
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My RB's are cursed. I haven't had a RB score over 12 so far this season.
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afromanGT wrote:My RB's are cursed. I haven't had a RB score over 12 so far this season. At least you didn't get Chris Johnson. #-o
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f1worldchamp wrote:afromanGT wrote:My RB's are cursed. I haven't had a RB score over 12 so far this season. At least you didn't get Chris Johnson. #-o He's still outscoring my RB's :lol: My main RB's (Grant and Mendenhall) are scoring 2-4 points a week. Thank fuck for stealing Sproles on Waiver.
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Got rid of Ben Watson, Jabar Gaffney and LDT, they've been very poor. Bought in Santonio Holmes, Scott Chandler and Stephen Jackson
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Quote:Bought in Santonio Holmes I lol'd.
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Benjo wrote:Got rid of Ben Watson, Jabar Gaffney and LDT, they've been very poor. Bought in Santonio Holmes, Scott Chandler and Stephen Jackson That's on waivers. Someone might beat you to them...
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Slim pickings unfortunately. Wtahc, he'll prove y'all wrong and go for 100 yards this weekend.
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Benjo wrote:Slim pickings unfortunately. Wtahc, he'll prove y'all wrong and go for 100 yards this weekend. I had him for the first 4 weeks of the season and he did SFA. He'll get mauled this week at Buffalo too. Waivers should have gone through by now :-k
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afromanGT wrote:Benjo wrote:Slim pickings unfortunately. Wtahc, he'll prove y'all wrong and go for 100 yards this weekend. I had him for the first 4 weeks of the season and he did SFA. He'll get mauled this week at Buffalo too. Waivers should have gone through by now :-k They hadn't 20mins ago. my request was still pending
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buddha69 wrote:Benjo wrote:Got rid of Ben Watson, Jabar Gaffney and LDT, they've been very poor. Bought in Santonio Holmes, Scott Chandler and Stephen Jackson That's on waivers. Someone might beat you to them... Don't even think about it
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Benjo wrote:buddha69 wrote:Benjo wrote:Got rid of Ben Watson, Jabar Gaffney and LDT, they've been very poor. Bought in Santonio Holmes, Scott Chandler and Stephen Jackson That's on waivers. Someone might beat you to them... Don't even think about it I'm behind you in waiver request unfortunately.
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Benjo wrote:buddha69 wrote:Benjo wrote:Got rid of Ben Watson, Jabar Gaffney and LDT, they've been very poor. Bought in Santonio Holmes, Scott Chandler and Stephen Jackson That's on waivers. Someone might beat you to them... Don't even think about it I've got a claim in for Stephen Jackson. But I'm 8th on the Waivers. So it depends whether anyone challenges you for the other 2.
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Picking Bills, Dallas, Houston, Falcons, Kansas, Saints, 49ers, Oakland, Bengals, Cards, Pats, Packers, Steelers, Eagles.
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afromanGT wrote:Picking Bills, Dallas, Houston, Falcons, Kansas, Saints, 49ers, Oakland, Bengals, Cards, Pats, Packers, Steelers, Eagles. Going to multi 10 of those. Which ones?
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I'd go Bills, Houston, Galcons, Saints, Niners, Bengals, Cards, Pats, Packers, Eagles.
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I went to put my money where my mouth is and match your bet and it's been so long since I bet on sportsbet that they've frozen my account and I need my medicare no. to get access again. And I can't find my medicare :( So much for betting on this week's games.
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Problem Solved.
So I've got $5 on Texans-Bills-Falcons-Chiefs-Saints-Niners-Pats-Packers paying $48.
I've got $10 on Packers-Steelers-Eagles-Benglas-Raiders-Niners-Saints-Chiefs-Falcons at $240.
I've got $5 on the Bills paying $8 and a sneaky $5 on the Bears in the off chance that Jay Cutler turns up paying $18.
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Fucking Miami.
And for the 8th time this season, Packers concede points on the opening drive. #-o
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They are playing away at what is supposed to be one of the better teams in the league. This was always going to be a shootout.
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'one of the better teams in the league' have thrown two interceptions in the first quarter. You CAN'T be conceding 7 points on the opening drive of every game! You don't want to be giving teams a head start like that. Especially against highly rated defences like the Ravens, should we play them at any point. We've conceded the second highest YPG in the NFL.
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afromanGT wrote: We've conceded the second highest YPG in the NFL. Yet they are 7-0.
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That's only because of Rodgers' performances. If he has a bad game we're in real trouble. It's a team sport.
And now they're in real trouble, they've fumbled an off-side kick which the Chargers recovered and it's 38-45 and the Chargers have the ball back in mid field with 4+ mins on the clock. They wouldn't be in this position if they hadn't conceded off the first drive.
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I don't know how you can make that assumption. Anything could have happened between now and then. It's not how you start, it's how you finish. And I admit, they aren't finishing particularly well.
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And now a disgusting call goes against us. 4th down, Gates stops dead and Woodson cannons into him because he's watching the QB - this takes place before the throw and the ref calls pass interference #-o 5 yards and an automatic first down.
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f1worldchamp wrote:I don't know how you can make that assumption. Anything could have happened between now and then. It's not how you start, it's how you finish. And I admit, they aren't finishing particularly well. You can say that any time, sure. But the way the O has played, they'd have a 4 possession game if it weren't for that opening drive TD to the Chargers.
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The Packers ended the first quarter up 21-7, so it's been since then the damage was done. I think the offense does what it needs to. If the defense plays badly they step up. If the defense plays well they seem to take their time. We haven't had a great offensive display and great defensive display in the same game yet.
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The damage done since then wouldn't be an issue if it was 21-0 at the end of the first Quarter.
We held on, but it shouldn't have been that close. Ever. You CAN'T keep conceding on the first down. Defensive teams like the Lions and Ravens will eat us a live if we keep doing that.
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I can't agree. Say it was 21-0 after the first quarter, then SD scored on their first possesion of the second quarter. Still makes it 21-7. Hell, if todays game had been Packers 45 SD 0 at some stage, then the Chargers scored 38 straight, would that have made a difference? It really doesn't matter when the points are scored.
BTW, I LOL'd at you comapring the Lions defence to the Ravens. It's not even close.
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Ravens and Ravens are ranked first and sixth in yards per pass, and second and fifth for points per game. They're not far removed. The Lions are the best ranked defence the packers still have to play.
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Great effort Patriots :( Losing at home to the Giants. As if we gave them a touchdown with 16 seconds left. We really need an overhaul of our defense. Still wondering why we let Brandon Merriweather go.
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Meriweather was let go because they couldn't balance the salary cap with him there. He's only on a one year deal at the Bears, so he can leave RFA at the end of the season. I'd take him at packers, but a decent CB is more of an issue.
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Quote:Packers: 8-0 and wanting much more By Kevin Seifert Aaron Rodgers was 21-of-26 and threw four TDs as he led the Packers over the Chargers. SAN DIEGO -- The Green Bay Packers returned two interceptions for touchdowns Sunday. Their quarterback produced his most efficient game of a marvelous season, throwing almost as many touchdown passes (four) as he did incompletions (five). And yet their matchup against the San Diego Chargers was in doubt until the final minute.
That dichotomy left the Packers something short of jubilant after a 45-38 victory at Qualcomm Stadium, one that elevated their record to 8-0 but exposed new concerns about their defense.
On the one hand, the Packers were thrilled to have handed Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers the first three-interception game of his career. And most everyone was out of superlatives for quarterback Aaron Rodgers. (All except nose tackle B.J. Raji, who said: "I don't want to say anything crazy. I just think if he keeps doing what he's doing, he'll be the one they'll be talking about as long as this game is around".)
And if the Packers fall short of their Super Bowl hopes this season? I imagine we'll be talking about their pass defense as a primary cause. Most players were cautious in their assessment of Sunday's game. But perhaps the most important one, cornerback Charles Woodson, bluntly laid it out after Rivers rolled for 164 yards and two touchdowns in the fourth quarter to make this game closer than it should have been.
Speaking steadily and with a steel gaze in his eyes, Woodson said the Packers played "a lot of bad football" Sunday. He termed the defense "the liability on this team" and said the Packers must get linebacker Clay Matthews in better position "to be the Claymaker."
Most important, Woodson acknowledged the Packers can't expect elite play from Rodgers to carry them every week from now until Super Bowl XLVI.
"We can't ask our offense to do anything more than what they’ve done," Woodson said. "For those guys to just go up and down the field and score points, I mean, we have to understand that it's not going to always be that way. There's going to be some time when we're going to have to come up bigger than the offense. That's just the reality. We're very fortunate to have the guys we have on the offensive side of the ball. But we have to carry our weight as well."
Although he passed for a season-low 247 yards, Rodgers scrambled for 51 yards and finished with his highest passer rating (145.8) of the year. In the Packers' perfect eight-game start, Rodgers has completed 72.5 percent of his passes, thrown 24 touchdowns, limited himself to three interceptions and produced a passer rating of at least 110 in each game, an NFL record.
For his part, Rodgers said that "I'd like to think I can keep it up" in the second half of the season. And tight end Jermichael Finley expressed confidence that the offense can continue its elite play. "It doesn't matter what [the defense] does," Finley said. "That's a long story short."
At the same time, I trust and heed what Woodson says. He is not prone to post-game outbursts, and if he publicly identifies a point of concern, I take it seriously. Two years ago, for example, he accurately noted the Packers' mistake in releasing safety Anthony Smith and smartly questioned the Packers' strategy of sitting back in coverage as Minnesota Vikings quarterback Brett Favre carved them up.
Tramon Williams returned an interception 40 yards for a critical touchdown.So we find ourselves at a bit of a crossroads in our regard for the Packers. They are without question the best team in the NFL midway through the season. But two years ago, we learned the danger of entering the playoffs with a shaky pass defense.
Should we be concerned about a defense that is allowing nearly 300 passing yards per game? Or, after eight victories, should we accept it as part of the Packers' winning formula? After all, the Packers have now gone six consecutive games with at least two interceptions. Sunday, safety Charlie Peprah and cornerback Tramon Williams accounted for a third of the Packers' scoring by returning their interceptions for touchdowns, and Peprah sealed the game on a second interception with 14 seconds remaining.
In all fairness, however, no team that returns two interceptions for scores, and has a quarterback dealing like Rodgers, should be sweating out a game in the final minute.
"We like to think that we have a lot of playmakers on our defense, especially in the back end," Woodson said. "We feel like if the ball is in the air, we'll come up with our fair share certainly. But how many times are you going to have two interceptions for a touchdown? … Yeah, today it played out big for us. But we have to be more sound as a defense throughout the whole game."
I don't want to rain on the Packers' parade based simply on Woodson's comments and on yardage totals. As we've noted several times this season, the Packers have limited opposing quarterbacks to one of the lowest passer ratings (79.3) in the NFL. Oftentimes, passer rating is more illustrative of total pass defense than yards allowed.
In fact, according to Raji, Packers coaches presented an even more obscure stat -- passer rating differential -- to players this week as an assurance of what they're doing well this season. The Packers have led the NFL all season in that statistic, which measures the difference between your quarterback's passer rating and that of opponents in your games. It's generally considered a key indicator of a team's success potential.
"It's a huge deal," Raji said. "I don't know how it will sit after today, but ultimately we are 8-0 with work to do. That sets the ceiling pretty high for our football team."
Yes, the Packers are undefeated and have room for demonstrable improvement. Atop that list, according to Woodson, is creating a better environment for Matthews, who had one quarterback hit Sunday and has only three sacks this season. Woodson's advice for defensive coordinator Dom Capers was direct.
"We have to find ways to get Clay to the quarterback, whatever that may be," Woodson said. "Draw some things up for him and let him do his thing. Because we can't continue to allow him to be stuck on a side and double teamed every time he gets upfield. I think for us, finding ways to get him to be the 'Claymaker' which he is, we have to find ways to get him to the quarterback."
Matthews spoke only generally about the situation, saying: "Not to take anything from this victory today, or the performance we had at the end, but we also gave up too many [yards] and it seems to be a constant theme that we need to address."
Getting Matthews more involved would take some pressure off Woodson and his mates in the defensive backfield. As it is now, Capers is blitzing more than he ever has in three seasons with the Packers, leaving defensive backs in less favorable positions. Sunday, according to ESPN Stats & Information, Capers blitzed on 54.2 percent of Rivers' dropbacks. Blitzes led to all three interceptions, and Rivers threw all four touchdowns when the Packers limited their rushes to four men.
The way Rodgers is playing, it's quite possible the Packers could run away with the Super Bowl regardless of how their defense plays. It's worked so far. Is it reasonable to expect elite play from their quarterback and multiple interceptions from their defense every week? We'll find out soon enough. http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/47900/packers-8-0-and-wanting-much-more
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BJ Raji oozes class.
The article basically reinforces what I've been saying for the last three or four weeks - we need to beef up our backfield D. Having Nick Collins out doesn't help, but we need a third CB because Woodson and Shields can't play every single snap of the season and Tramon Williams, although getting the picks on a regular basis is too slow to read the play too often. Morgan Burnett's hand problems aren't helping either.
As for Matthews, he's suffering from a lack of protection with Mike Neale out. He's making the same pressure plays that he was last season, but throw Mike Neale back in there and he won't have the OT's blocking his path so swiftly and we'll see a sharp increase in the number of sacks and hits after the throw from Matthews.
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Here's a little article regarding a discussion we had earlier, real value vs fantasy value. Quote:With the season now past the halfway point, it's time to look at one of our favorite features of the year: the All-Bettis team. This team, very simply, celebrates those players whose fantasy production grossly outstrips their actual contributions to winning football games.
Its patron saint, as you can probably tell, is former Rams and Steelers running back Jerome Bettis. Bettis obviously helped his teams win quite a few football games over the course of his 13-year career, so this isn't a knock on his overall value as a player. It's a loving reference to what stands as the ideal example of the difference between real performance and fantasy value, specifically Bettis' output against the Raiders on the opening weekend of the 2004 season. In that game, Bettis had five carries for one yard and three touchdowns. One real yard, three plunges from a yard out (a play that succeeds close to 60 percent of the time), 18 fantasy points. For those of you who don't play our nation's greatest export, that's equivalent to a player running for 189 yards without crossing the goal line. Even if you're a touchdown fetishist who thinks that the invisible line represents some important barrier, you have to admit that the guy who ran for 189 yards probably did more to help his team win.
As you might suspect, our team starts off with a player who looked surprisingly impressive on Sunday …
Quarterback: Tim Tebow, Denver Broncos. Tebow's throws are often well out of the reach of his receivers, but they're also usually pretty far away from opposing defenders, too, which is how he has only one interception in 97 pass attempts so far. (Of course, on Sunday, the Raiders defenders were also generally quite far away from the intended Broncos receivers.) With his running acumen and that famous second half against the Chargers included, the same guy who was getting chatted up as the worst quarterback in the NFL last week is averaging 23.7 fantasy points per game. That's within one point of Tom Brady (24.8).
Running Backs: Ahmad Bradshaw and Brandon Jacobs, N.Y. Giants. The one-two punch in New York have both missed time due to injuries, so we'll combine their numbers. Brahmad Jacobshaw have just 3.7 yards per carry on their 170 rushes, but the meld has eight rushing touchdowns; that's 64 points from their rushing yardage and 48 points from their rushing touchdowns. Matt Forte, for comparison, is carrying the entire Bears offense on his back with 672 rushing yards, topping Jacobshaw all by himself despite 46 fewer carries, but he's crossed the plane only twice on the ground. Somehow, that means that the Giants' combo has averaged more fantasy points per game from the rushing production. Heck, Bears backup Marion Barber (91 rushing yards and three touchdowns on 27 carries) isn't far off from Forte on a per-game basis. And that's not a knock on Forte.
Wide Receiver: Plaxico Burress, N.Y. Jets. Even after catching all five of the targets thrown to him on Sunday, Burress is catching just 46 percent of the passes thrown to him overall. Five of his 23 catches have resulted in touchdowns, so just under 22 percent of his catches have produced touchdowns. Burress is a red zone threat, but this is ridiculous; even in his best year, he wasn't able to get far past 17 percent. As a result, he has 62 fantasy points, which is slightly more than Reggie Wayne (57 points). This would have been even more egregious if he hadn't been stopped a half-yard short of a touchdown on Sunday, as he would have had the same number of fantasy points as the vastly superior Roddy White (501 yards and three touchdowns, producing 68 fantasy points).
Wide Receiver: Eric Decker, Denver Broncos. As the closest thing to a no. 1 receiver in Denver after Brandon Lloyd's departure, Decker is often forced the ball on plays where he's not open (or ignored on those plays when he is open). But it's amazing to think that his six touchdown catches and 406 receiving yards this year have produced 76 fantasy points, more than White or even Brandon Marshall (46 catches, 644 receiving yards, two touchdowns, and fractionally fewer fantasy points than Decker). Which player would you rather have?
Tight End: Scott Chandler, Buffalo Bills. All-Bettis Team MVP so far, Chandler established his candidacy during the opening week of the season and hasn't let up since. The journeyman caught two touchdown passes during the 41-7 shellacking of the Chiefs, but he had five catches in that game. The supreme example of his particular brand of artistry was against the Redskins in Week 8, when both of his catches went for touchdowns. He now has six touchdowns among his 18 catches, which combines with his 157 receiving yards to produce 51 fantasy points. That's more than Brandon Pettigrew (48 points), and it's within four points of Heath Miller (55 points), each of whom are borderline Pro Bowl tight ends.
There's nothing inherently wrong with being on the All-Bettis team; touchdowns have value, too. But when a disproportionate amount of your performance comes from touchdowns, chances are that your performance is being overrated. Plaxico Burress is not really making a difference in the Jets' passing game. Jacobs and Bradshaw combine to form the core of a rushing offense that rates as 19th in the league in rushing DVOA. And Chandler is this season's Jay Riemersma, a similarly obscure tight end who had six touchdowns on 25 catches with the Bills in 1998 and never had a six-touchdown season again. These guys just aren't really helping their teams win all that much, regardless of how much they're helping their fantasy football teams. http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7202362/the-all-bettis-team
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I think that's a bit rough on Decker. He's a decent WR and would probably be considered up there with some of the best in the league if he didn't have a useless QB like Tebow throwing not so much at him as somewhere in his vague vicinity.
Very true about Chandler, but again I think that's a rough assessment on him. Ryan Fitzpatrick generally only throws to Chandler in the red zone when his enormous size (6'7") makes him a useful target. If anything I'd say that's a plus for Chandler, not a negative. If you want to look at TE's not pulling their weight, look at Tony Scheffler (3TD from 116).
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I think it's safe to say trading for Ochochinco was a waste. It's lucky we have two class tight ends (Gronkowski and Hernandez), a strong wideout (Welker) and and a solid backup for Welker (Branch).
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Ochocinco is more in Boston for a holiday than to play football.
Good win for the Bears this afternoon.
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FYI, the NFL starts Thurday night games this week, so your fantasy lineups need to be set earlier.
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f1worldchamp wrote:FYI, the NFL starts Thurday night games this week, so your fantasy lineups need to be set earlier. Thanks heaps mate. totally forgot
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f1worldchamp wrote:FYI, the NFL starts Thurday night games this week, so your fantasy lineups need to be set earlier. Not if you don't have any Thursday night team players :lol: I knew I should have bet on the Raiders :lol: Saints, Panthers, steelers, Rams, Bills, Colts, Denver, Miami, Eagles, Texans, Ravens, Lions, Niners, Jets, Packers for the wins this week.
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Chris Johnson is back, baby! afromanGT wrote:Saints, Panthers, steelers, Rams, Bills, Colts, Denver, Miami, Eagles, Texans, Ravens, Lions, Niners, Jets, Packers for the wins Oh dear. #-o Here's how it plays out. Colts go 0-16 and get the first overall pick in the draft, and take Andrew Luck. Then they shop Manning around and he's picked up by a team that thinks they are that close to contending that Manning will pu them over the top. Think 49ers. Or a team that is delusional about how close they are. Think Redskins.
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Fuck the Colts are useless. Should have had adequate QB depth behind Manning in case something like this happened.
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Quote:Think 49ers. Or a team that is delusional about how close they are. Think Redskins. Redskins have nothing to offer and the Niners are happy with Smith. I can see Manning going to Denver. Quote:Should have had adequate QB depth behind Manning in case something like this happened. Every team can't have Matt Flynn. Fucking Eagles. Blew my multi. Cunts.
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Redskins have a track record of overpaying for aging QB's. Manning fits the bill perfectly. He knows it'd be his last payday as a footballer, so he'll go where the cash is.
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Patriots showed up big today. Huge win over New York, gives them inside track. Affectively two games ahead in the AFC East, now we've swept the series.
Brady was exceptional, at one point hit twelve consecutive passes. Very good match from him, no turnovers either.
Chad got a couple of cathces in the first quarter, but that was all. Did look good when he got the ball though.
MOM was easily Gronkowski. 2 TD's and over 100 Yards receiving, congrats to whoever has them in their fantasy team. Second year in the league and already one of the best Tight Ends going round.
It was also brilliant to see our defense look solid. Ninkovich had a couple of interceptions and played well. Nice to see us surrender under 20 points. However, we looked shaky against the run, gave up a few big gains on 3rd down and McCourty got banged up, so our DB stocks are even thinner now.
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Benjo wrote:Patriots showed up big today. Huge win over New York, gives them inside track. Affectively two games ahead in the AFC East, now we've swept the series.
Brady was exceptional, at one point hit twelve consecutive passes. Very good match from him, no turnovers either.
Chad got a couple of cathces in the first quarter, but that was all. Did look good when he got the ball though.
MOM was easily Gronkowski. 2 TD's and over 100 Yards receiving, congrats to whoever has them in their fantasy team. Second year in the league and already one of the best Tight Ends going round.
It was also brilliant to see our defense look solid. Ninkovich had a couple of interceptions and played well. Nice to see us surrender under 20 points. However, we looked shaky against the run, gave up a few big gains on 3rd down and McCourty got banged up, so our DB stocks are even thinner now. \:d/ \:d/ \:d/ \:d/ \:d/ \:d/ \:d/
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Philly's loss puts them at 3-6. Wow. Didn't expect that.
Packers up 14-0 in the first corner, courtesy of some Rogers magic and a punt return by Kobb.
Personlly, I'm tipping the playoffs to be AFC Pittsburgh Patriots Texans San Diego (just. That kinda speaks volumes about the rest of the division). Baltimore New York NFC Packers Saints 49ers Giants Detroit Dallas
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Rogers is easily the best qb this year. Did think this year he'd be up for the MVP. Proved me right, has looked very solid.
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9-0 baby!
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Benjo wrote:Philly's loss puts them at 3-6. Wow. Didn't expect that.
Packers up 14-0 in the first corner, courtesy of some Rogers magic and a punt return by Kobb.
Personlly, I'm tipping the playoffs to be AFC Pittsburgh Patriots Texans San Diego (just. That kinda speaks volumes about the rest of the division). Baltimore New York NFC Packers Saints 49ers Giants Detroit Dallas
I think the Raiders and Ravens could get the wildcard slots, not Ravens and Jets in the AFC. And Texans could be up shit creek with Schaub out for the season. Bears will get the NFC North wildcard, not the Lions. And to write off the Falcons is just daft. Great work this morning. Still conceding yards at bad times, and a rookie QB made us look better than we were, but some very solid defending. Disappointed we couldn't shut out. Especially with FOUR 3&outs.
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Ben Graham has signed for Detroit Lions.
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Thurs Night Football again. WOOO for Viewer friendly timeslot!
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Quote:HOUSTON -- Suspended Green Bay Packers defensive lineman Johnny Jolly was sentenced to six years in prison Thursday for violating the terms of his probation for a drug conviction.
State District Judge Denise Bradley imposed the sentence despite tearful pleas from Jolly and his mother, Phyllis Jolly, to allow the 6-foot-3, 325-pound lineman to be treated for his addiction to codeine instead of going to prison. Jolly's aunt, agent and drug counselor also testified on his behalf.
"I want to go to rehab to get help," Jolly told the judge as he wiped away tears with a tissue.
Jolly, 28, was charged with possession of a compound containing codeine, a controlled substance, after a traffic stop in Houston in October. He also was charged with tampering with evidence for attempting to conceal the substance from the investigating officers.
Jolly's truck was pulled over after he was seen throwing a bag out the window. The bag wasn't recovered, but Jolly was seen dumping a cup believed to contain codeine on the floor. Two bottles believed to contain codeine were recovered from the vehicle.
The arrest put Jolly in jeopardy of receiving prison time because in April he had pleaded guilty to a codeine possession charge in a deal that wiped out an earlier charge and spared him from prison unless he stumbled again.
After the hearing, Jolly's attorney, Letitia Quinones, told The Associated Press that the player spent eight weeks in court-ordered rehab after his second arrest, but has only recently faced up to his codeine addiction.
"I don't look at Johnny as a criminal," Quinones said. "I look at him as an addict."
Jolly, who grew up in Houston, was a sixth-round draft pick of the Packers in 2006 after playing at Texas A&M. He was a starter for the Packers in 2008 and 2009. However, he sat out the 2010 season after being suspended by the NFL indefinitely the previous July. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7246845/green-bay-packers-johnny-jolly-sentenced-6-years-prison
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Tebow driving Denver forward as I speak. Watch as he loses it under pressure when they get inside the Jets 10.
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MONEY ON THE BRONCOS! YEEEEEEEEEEEEEW
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Scratch that. Tebow runs for 20 yard TD. Broncos up by 4 with under a minute to go. Great drive. Still doesn't change the fact he's crap when he is unable to run the football.
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Good d by Denver. Two losses in a row by the Jets.
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The guy is 4-1 as a starting QB in the NFL and has a completion rate of 45!
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f1worldchamp wrote:The guy is 4-1 as a starting QB in the NFL and has a completion rate of 45! This. Fail to see the hype. Sure, he can run the ball, but as soon as he faces a defense which stuffs the run, he can't do anything, I'd take Cam Newton over him any day, at least he can throw the ball a bit.
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f1worldchamp wrote:The guy is 4-1 as a starting QB in the NFL and has a completion rate of 45! Fortunately they've got some tough games coming up. @Chargers, Patriots, & Bears. Wouldn't surprise me if the Vikings beat them either tbh. This result is basically just a reminder of how shit Mark Sanchez can be. Wouldn't surprise me if Jets' ended up being Manning's destination at the end of the season.
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Picking Ravens, Browns, Lions, Packers, Bills, Raiders, Cowboys, Niners, Rams, Falcons, Bears, Giants, Patriots. No bets on this week.
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Watching Oklahoma State vs Iowa state. Great game. Iowa scored a touchdown to make it 24-14 and close the gap to 10, then went for a surprise onside kick, which they perfectly recovered. They went down the field, before fumbling. Oklahoma State got out of their own 5, before they fumbled at the 30.
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The way Oklahoma are playing this season, that would have been battle of the handling errors all game tbh.
Big question this week: Is Sanchez going to be dropped if they have another mediocre result?
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Huge win by Iowa State. Double OT 37-31. Outscored Oklahoma 30-7 after I started to watch. Coincidence? I think not.
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How can neither team have got in FG range in the first OT period?
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Old news, but never got round to posting it. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/08/new-poll-identifies-mike-vick-as-most-disliked-nfl-player/Quote:A poll of players has revealed that Lions defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh is the dirtiest player in the NFL. A poll of fans has bestowed a slightly less desirable honor on Eagles quarterback Mike Vick.
Per Tom Van Riper of Forbes.com, a new poll from Nielsen and E-Poll Market Research has found that Vick is the most disliked NFL player. Specifically, 60 percent of the respondents identified Vick as a player they “dislike,” “dislike somewhat,” or “dislike a lot.”
Jets receiver Plaxico Burress finished second, with 56 percent. Third on the list was Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, at 49 percent. In fourth place, former Pats defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth, with 46 percent.
All four players have had trouble with the law, which surely has done nothing to enhance their standing.
Bears quarterback Jay Cutler (38 percent), Patriots receiver Chad Ochocinco (35 percent), Eagles quarterback Vince Young (32 percent), Raiders quarterback Carson Palmer (31 percent), Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo (29 percent), and Panthers tight end Jeremy Shockey (29 percent) also made the list.
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Old news, but never got round to posting it. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/08/new-poll-identifies-mike-vick-as-most-disliked-nfl-player/Quote:A poll of players has revealed that Lions defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh is the dirtiest player in the NFL. A poll of fans has bestowed a slightly less desirable honor on Eagles quarterback Mike Vick.
Per Tom Van Riper of Forbes.com, a new poll from Nielsen and E-Poll Market Research has found that Vick is the most disliked NFL player. Specifically, 60 percent of the respondents identified Vick as a player they “dislike,” “dislike somewhat,” or “dislike a lot.”
Jets receiver Plaxico Burress finished second, with 56 percent. Third on the list was Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, at 49 percent. In fourth place, former Pats defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth, with 46 percent.
All four players have had trouble with the law, which surely has done nothing to enhance their standing.
Bears quarterback Jay Cutler (38 percent), Patriots receiver Chad Ochocinco (35 percent), Eagles quarterback Vince Young (32 percent), Raiders quarterback Carson Palmer (31 percent), Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo (29 percent), and Panthers tight end Jeremy Shockey (29 percent) also made the list. @Afro- college OT is different. They start from the oppositions 30 yard line and attempt to score. In this case, Iowa scored a touchdown. Oklahoma then got the ball at the opposition 30 and had to score a touchdown, otherwise they would lose, which they did. Basically, both teams have a go at scoring and if the scores are tied, another OT period is played. But, after the end of the first OT and one team has scored more, then that team is the winner.
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No real surprise that Suh has been rated the dirtiest. He plays pretty hard. I like him and rate him. I think the dirtiest player would be Vick, personally, he stands on LB's after the play.
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It's surprisng, he was named the dirtiest, but also the most likebale in another poll on the Forbes website. Rodgers was second in the likeable poll IIRC.
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Packers defence was woeful again, but it's another W so I'm not complaining. 10-0 baby!
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Good win by the Eagles vs the Giants. Without Vick and Maclin.
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Another frustrating loss to the Falcons but good signs from Jake Locker who came on after Hasselbeck injured his arm. Threw 2 TDs and 140 yards in just over a quarter.
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Anyone see Blounts TD v Packers. Lol, someone had to tackle him.
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f1worldchamp wrote:Packers defence was woeful again, but it's another W so I'm not complaining. 10-0 baby! I think that was mostly disappointing from the Offence. Jennings had a really poor game and droped a number of catches. As did Finley before his injury. It was Rodgers' worst game of the season (still a 112 rating). The D are topping the league for interceptions (16) but also conceding the sixth most yards. The main thing that hurt us was the pure size of the Bucs' O players. Those guys are HUGE and guys like Blount are impossible to stop when they get on a roll - see Blount's TD where he shakes seven tackles. Huge result for the Lions in the shoot-out with the Panthers. Massive fantasy points for Stafford killed me this week. Pretty unhappy with the number of my players out (two with injury and three with the bye). Fuck me Eli Manning is a pain in the arse. I had the Giants down for an easy win. Glad I didn't put money on it.
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Patriots doing exactly as expected of the Chiefs and cruising away with it.
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afromanGT wrote:Patriots doing exactly as expected of the Chiefs and cruising away with it. Not enough to save your fantasy team Afro! You actually could have done with the Cheifs throwing a couple of TD's to their tight end.
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Poor first half. But we picked it up in the second half. Another great game from Gronkowski.
Defense had some big plays, Arrington had his sixth and interceptions for the year.
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f1worldchamp wrote:afromanGT wrote:Patriots doing exactly as expected of the Chiefs and cruising away with it. Not enough to save your fantasy team Afro! You actually could have done with the Cheifs throwing a couple of TD's to their tight end. Yeah. It's not like you beat me with good play though. I lost Decker, Jennings, Starks and Green to injuries and Wallace, Mendenhall and Sproles were out with the Bye. I'm pretty disappointed. I only had 5 active players by the end of the matchday. Been talking with Buddha about the end of season movements. Colts draft Andrew Luck, Manning + Second round pick for Cromartie or possibly Revis, and then swap Sanchez for a WR from a team lacking a QB like Broncos (for Decker).
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Strange season for us, we are sitting at better than i expected, yet im still frustrated that we arent in a better position. I think that the fact that we're only 2 games behind the Texans is still good. Realistically the best we can hope for is a wildcard but seeing Locker come into the game and almost get us a W is a great sign for the future, and a massive step towards not being so reliant on CJ0k
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Realistically, Titans could top the division now that Schaub is out for the season. Now is the time for Chris Johnson to remind the NFL why he's such a revered RB. Some big performances from the WR's are required however.
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afromanGT wrote:Realistically, Titans could top the division now that Schaub is out for the season. Now is the time for Chris Johnson to remind the NFL why he's such a revered RB. Some big performances from the WR's are required however. Funny thing is, 2 weeks ago CJ went for 130 yards. Whereas Nate Washington had a massive game v the Falcons last weekend. 115 yards and 2 TDs, while CJ had 13yds from 12 carries. Our offence boggles me.
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afromanGT wrote:f1worldchamp wrote:afromanGT wrote:Patriots doing exactly as expected of the Chiefs and cruising away with it. Not enough to save your fantasy team Afro! You actually could have done with the Cheifs throwing a couple of TD's to their tight end. Yeah. It's not like you beat me with good play though. I lost Decker, Jennings, Starks and Green to injuries and Wallace, Mendenhall and Sproles were out with the Bye. I'm pretty disappointed. I only had 5 active players by the end of the matchday. I was due! Check the points against, I'm second only to the last place Multiple Scorgazms. Seems like every week my opposition has a breakout week.
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f1worldchamp wrote:afromanGT wrote:f1worldchamp wrote:afromanGT wrote:Patriots doing exactly as expected of the Chiefs and cruising away with it. Not enough to save your fantasy team Afro! You actually could have done with the Cheifs throwing a couple of TD's to their tight end. Yeah. It's not like you beat me with good play though. I lost Decker, Jennings, Starks and Green to injuries and Wallace, Mendenhall and Sproles were out with the Bye. I'm pretty disappointed. I only had 5 active players by the end of the matchday. I was due! Check the points against, I'm second only to the last place Multiple Scorgazms. Seems like every week my opposition has a breakout week. Pity it cost me top spot. Probably my most disappointing week of the season tbh. Quote:Funny thing is, 2 weeks ago CJ went for 130 yards. Whereas Nate Washington had a massive game v the Falcons last weekend. 115 yards and 2 TDs, while CJ had 13yds from 12 carries. Our offence boggles me. Inconsistency and unreliability from Hasselbeck is the biggest problem right now.
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My starting QB and starting RB both go on IR in the same week. #-o
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Matt Stafford is pretty decent anyway. And Schaub had the bye last week regardless.
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\:d/ \:d/ \:d/
That is all.
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ffs Miami
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Holy fucking shit, Suh is a beast. That man is just one angry behemoth.
CHEESE-HEADS!! FUCK YES! Best defensive display of the season. Keep it together for the Giants game and it's a run home where we can start talking perfect season. It's SO CLOSE NOW!!!
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The problem with the perfect season is it really takes an ego to go after it. There's been a few teams that get to 14-0 and rest starters cause they've wrapped up the top seed. I don't see McCarthy going for it. Imagine if Rodgers cops another concussion in the last game when he doesn't really need to be playing.
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Rodgers will play those last couple of games to keep match-fit, but he'll only see about half the snaps. It'll be more about guys like Crabtree, Jones, Cobb, Saine, Sherrod, Williams, So'oto and Francois getting more game time before the play-offs.
I think McCarthy will go for it if we're still unbeaten at 14-0, but he won't risk all his eggs on it. The problem is those last two games are the Bears and Lions. Y'know...
But holy fucking shit. Tim Tebow. What the fuck? Completes 9/18 for 143 yards and leads the Broncos to victory? Really? How does this keep happening?
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Even more amazing is the fact he is 4-1 as a starter. He is one of the worst quarterbacks in the league. Even Sanchez is better than him.
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Benjo wrote:Even more amazing is the fact he is 4-1 as a starter. He is one of the worst quarterbacks in the league. Even Sanchez is better than him. In fairness, Decker is a better WR than either Holmes or Buress. Decker's making Tebow's throwing record look GOOD. Go figure. I'd say only Carsten Palmer and Blaine Gabbert are worse starters than Tebow. How he has a now 5-1 winning record I'll never know.
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That is true. Decker is a beast.
Tebow's saving grace is that he can run the ball. Given this, it's shocking teams haven't figured this out that once they stop the run, Tebow is stuffed.
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Jets did that against the Broncos and clogged up the middle of the field, but then he started throwing. Got taht 50+yd pass to Decker and they opened up the field instead of shutting it down still.
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Quote:mortreport Chris Mortensen Jack Del Rio has been fired as head coach of the #Jaguars...more on ESPN shortly 43 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply Retweeted by AdamSchefter
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AFC AFC EAST CUR PROJ New England 8-3 13-3 NY Jets 6-5 9-7 Buffalo 5-6 8-8 Miami 3-8 4-12 AFC WEST CUR PROJ Oakland 7-4 9-7 Denver 6-5 8-8 Kansas City 4-7 6-10 San Diego 4-7 6-10 AFC NORTH CUR PROJ Baltimore 8-3 13-3 Pittsburgh 8-3 13-3 Cincinnati 7-4 10-6 Cleveland 4-7 4-12 AFC SOUTH CUR PROJ Houston 8-3 10-6 Tennessee 6-5 9-7 Jacksonville 3-8 4-12 Indianapolis 0-11 1-15 NFC NFC EAST CUR PROJ NY Giants 6-5 10-6 Dallas 7-4 10-6 Philadelphia 4-7 7-9 Washington 4-7 4-12 NFC WEST CUR PROJ San Francisco9-2 13-3 Arizona 4-7 6-10 Seattle 4-7 4-12 St. Louis 2-9 3-13 NFC NORTH CUR PROJ Green Bay 11-0 16-0 Detroit 7-4 10-6 Chicago 7-4 9-7 Minnesota 2-9 4-12 NFC SOUTH CUR PROJ New Orleans 8-3 13-3 Atlanta 7-4 11-5 Tampa Bay 4-7 5-11 Carolina 3-8 4-12
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I love that your predictor has come out with it exactly how I told you the season would end around 2 weeks ago :lol:
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Great minds think alike.
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I don't need ESPN to tell me that I'm right :P
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Colts to win a game :lol:
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buddha69 wrote:Colts to win a game :lol: Final game vs Jacksonville :P Watch, they will stun the Jaguars.
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God, Vince Young is awful.
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:lol: Watching the Seahawks and Eagles on ESPN'S and it is half time. They are speaking to Donovan McNabb about him leaving the Vikings. It has turned into group therapy session with him and Kurt Warner :lol:
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Quote:FauxJohnMadden Faux John Madden So Vince Young, the player who decreed the Eagles were a dream team, just threw the interception to end their season. Very fitting. 2 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply :lol:
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Benjo wrote:God, Vince Young is awful. He needs to channel Tim Tebow.
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Eagles have been a huge disappointment this year. Expected them to do a lot better.
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buddha69 wrote:Eagles have been a huge disappointment this year. Expected them to do a lot better. Too many changes around the team. Michael Vick isn't familiar enough with his offense and the Eagles D has always been iffy. I did expect them to at least make the play-offs though. Vince Young is decent for a back-up QB, but his attitude doesn't match his skill. Donovan McNabb has the same problem. He'll end up at the Redskins next year IMO. Backing Titans, Bears, Falcons, Raiders, Broncos, Pats, Steelers, Bucs, Jets, Ravens, Cowboys, Packers, niners, saints, chargers.
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Back at the Redskins for McNabb? You reckon?
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buddha69 wrote:Eagles have been a huge disappointment this year. Expected them to do a lot better. They should be the number 1 seed in the NFC IMO. With a decent coach and that squad they will be.
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Shaker wrote:buddha69 wrote:Eagles have been a huge disappointment this year. Expected them to do a lot better. They should be the number 1 seed in the NFC IMO. With a decent coach and that squad they will be. There is a small team from Green Bay which I'd say are the most deserving of the NFC top seed tbh. Interesting stat I read today. Since 2000, Andy Reid's Eagles have failed to make the playoffs just twice.
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Shaker wrote:buddha69 wrote:Eagles have been a huge disappointment this year. Expected them to do a lot better. They should be the number 1 seed in the NFC IMO. With a decent coach and that squad they will be. Hardly. Packers are easily a better team. And don't forget that the Eagles could well lose DeSean Jackson, Jason Avant (Who dropped two TD passes to make Young look so bad on the weekend) and Jamaal Jackson in the off-season free agency. There's also some massive names up on free agency in the WR slot this summer. DeSean Jackson, Vincent Jackson and Wes Welker all spring to mind.
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I think Wes will stay in New England. At least I hope so. He's got one of the best quarterbacks in the league to throw him the ball and the team are always contenders.
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And Tebow does it again, going 10/15 for 202yards and 2 TD's.
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TEBOW! What a legend. Lost on pretty much all my bets though. Packers getting over the dropsies and should beat the Giants now.
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Wow! Pack were made to sweat for that one. Still undefeated!
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Tim Tebow :lol: I don't know how he does it. Good effort with the pass today though, averaging 20 yards a completion with a 66% completion rate and two touchdowns.
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Well that sucks. The Packers stock issue goes ahead tomorrow, Dec 6. Unfortunately, the offering will be limited to persons in the United States, as well as Guam, Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands. Damn! Could have been an NFL owner.
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f1worldchamp wrote:Wow! Pack were made to sweat for that one. Still undefeated! There were some shocking dropped catches in that game. We dropped 7 of them! Crazy. Hope we don't have that problem next week, especially with Starks out. Brandon Saine stepped up well, but we need a BIG RB in this year's draft - one of your Brandon Jacobs or LeGarrett Blount type players. Hell maybe trade Grant for one of them... :-k Pretty happy with that result, very rewarding win and we're getting closer and closer to that big 16. If we win next week I think we'll have a crack at it. But there's not a lot to play for over the next couple of weeks except fringe players pushing for play-off spots. I find it kind of ironic that last season it was James Starks replacing Ryan Grant and making a name for himself in the play-offs. This year it could be Brandon Saine replacing James Starks... Pretty disappointed I can't get in on the stock offering. Benjo wrote:I think Wes will stay in New England. At least I hope so. He's got one of the best quarterbacks in the league to throw him the ball and the team are always contenders. Yes, but if you've learned anything in the last couple of seasons it's that NFL = Not For Long. Money talks, and if a side with a decent young QB came knocking (Colts will free up a lot of money losing Manning next year and will want to give Luck some talented and experienced targets, Jets would take him in a heartbeat for 3 WR sets and push buress down the order... and North Carolina need a player to make plays out of those open Newton passes) then maybe I think he'll leave.
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184 points in Fantasy last week. Sorry f1worldchamp
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Fucking 11 TD's for your players. Obscene!
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buddha69 wrote:184 points in Fantasy last week. Sorry f1worldchamp Yeah, I'm used to it by now. Every week my opponent seems to have a big week. I think I have the most points against in the league.
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Avy has most points against. You're a close second though.
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Woah...what am i?
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Multiple Scorgazms You set it up under the premise that you didn't have to do anything :lol:
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afromanGT wrote:Multiple Scorgazms You set it up under the premise that you didn't have to do anything :lol: And he still managed to score 117.82 in week 5 and beat me! I've had weeks where I scored 126, 116, 142 & 151 and lost all of them. :cry:
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I'd rather lose like that than lose 80-115 because three of your players were injured in the first half of their games.
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afromanGT wrote:I'd rather lose like that than lose 80-115 because three of your players were injured in the first half of their games. You kinda expect to win if you score 110+ points.
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Need 120+ to feel good about a win.
Fucking Steelers. Every time I back them to have a good game, Wallace and Mendenhall do fuck all.
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Griffin III is a great bloke. Deserved winner of the Heisman. Will that now ensure he will be the second QB taken in the draft behind Luck?
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buddha69 wrote:Griffin III is a great bloke. Deserved winner of the Heisman. Will that now ensure he will be the second QB taken in the draft behind Luck? I could be wrong, I don't think he has the pure passing ability that NFL scouts look for.
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Tebow. Did it. Again. Woeful first three quarters, then went 18-24 in the finla quarter and OT.
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TEBOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
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Eli isn't exactly in top form today
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Thirteen and oh. Yeah baby. Starting to think 16-0 is possible. But 19-0 is a whole other story. I'd rather have a loss now and win the SB than do a NE and go in the SB undefeated and lose.
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What a game between Dallas and the Giants. Thought they were down and out, but NY somehow coming back.
Deja vu for Dallas as well with field goal at the end.
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Brady's Bunch with the upset of the round, win oover the NY Sack Exchange.
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Hmmm i think the 7-6 TN Shakers getting up over the 9-4 Afroman FC is a bit of an upset ;)
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The Exchange were on a nine game winning streak though :P
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f1worldchamp wrote:Thirteen and oh. Yeah baby. Starting to think 16-0 is possible. But 19-0 is a whole other story. I'd rather have a loss now and win the SB than do a NE and go in the SB undefeated and lose. Kansas next week, Chicago the week after - Orton and Hanie are no chance of out-throwing Rodgers. So the only team that can probably knock us off is Stafford's Lions. But that said, Lions will have secured a wildcard spot by then and have nothing to play for, so they won't risk a number of players not having a week off. Embarrassing results for Bucs and Niners. I can't believe that the Cowboys iced their kicker for the second week in a row.
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It wasn't them this week, it was Tom Coughlin or whatever his name is. He deliberately waited till just before the snap.
Grnkowski notched up TD number 15 for the year on Sunday. Second year in and he's already amongst the elite tight ends.
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Quote:Grnkowski notched up TD number 15 for the year on Sunday. Second year in and he's already amongst the elite tight ends. The 2010 draft had some epic Tight Ends. Gronkowski, Hernandez, Graham, Quarless...
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Jaguars need a better QB. Gabbert is not up to it.
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Was just about to post that. Things could get really messy here for them. Falcons looking good.
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Jags getting smashed?
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:lol: Shaker. Falcons will be there or there abouts in the playoffs. Good to see them put a team to the sword and score a few points on them
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Falcons will make that WC spot behind the Saints. The only team that could have potentially taken it off them - the bears - are no longer in the picture.
Gabbert is hopeless. Wouldn't surprise me to see them go for Griffin in the draft.
This week I'm picking Dallas, Miami, Seahawks, Texans, Titans, Packers, Saints, Giants, Bengals, Lions, Cardinals, Patriots (fuck Tebow Time), Jets, Chargers (who are 20-1 in December in the last five years), Niners.
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Interesting article about Tebow in The Australian this week.
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ESPN had a really good piece on him, his development and Ex-Broncos coach McDaniels.
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Oh yay. Saturday Night Football for once.
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Well, that sucks. I knew they'd take the foot off the gas once the top seed was locked up, intentionally or not. Time to focus on the playoffs.
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Romeo should get that Chiefs job. Good defensive coordinator.
Tebows winning streak ended by the Patriots. Hallelujah. Brady ripped up against a quality defense. Great effort by the other receivers after Gronk was well covered. Even Ocho caught a TD :lol:
San Diego looking to capitalize on Denver and Oakland's slip ups. Have picked Flacco twice, and are up by 24 going into the final quarter.
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Quote:I knew they'd take the foot off the gas once the top seed was locked up, intentionally or not. Time to focus on the playoffs. We didn't really take our foot off the gas, we played a few experimental plays, but Finley had a serious case of the dropsies and it was the worst game Rodgers has played in a long, long time. It doesn't help that Jennings is out and our threat in 2-wide formations is limited to Driver/Nelson. At the end of the day it was a shitty performance.
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Should have put money on the Niners and Chargers. Would have got a good payout.
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1st out of the forumers in NFL Fantasy. Beat it lads.
Edited by buddha69: 21/12/2011 11:51:15 AM
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Missed out on the "Championship" Playoffs on points scored :/ I should win the consolation playoffs. Had i got lucky and scraped into the higher playoffs, i would have knocked off NY Sack Exchange, got 143.66 last weekend.
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Unlucky mate. Would have been you and I in the final. Beat Afro comfortably. Lucky Rodgers and the gang didn't turn up. Definitely thought I'd lose because they were playing the Chiefs
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You got lucky that the Steelers played like arse too. Normally 113 points would be good for a result...and you score fucking 150. Fuck Marshawn Lynch.
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Good waiver wire pickup ~8 weeks ago
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That guy is brutal. I'd say one of the best halfbacks in the competition, goes unnoticed though due to playing in Seattle.
Interesting couple of weeks ahead. Bengals, Jets, Titans, Raiders, Chargers and even Chiefs still in the hunt for the second wildcard spot...although the AFC West is far from decided, Denver just a game ahead of the Raiders and Chargers. NFC East is still far from decided as well, gonna comedown to the final game between Dallas and the Giants. The NFC wildcards are pretty much sown up, but Seattle, Arizona, Chicago and the loser of Giants/Cowboys could mathematically make it.
Rodgers is far and away MVP. Brees is runner-up, with Brady third. Although mind you, Peyton Manning could be a candidate for most valuable player, despite not playing a down all year :P
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Quote:That guy is brutal. I'd say one of the best halfbacks in the competition, goes unnoticed though due to playing in Seattle. He was the only reason that they scraped into the play-offs last season. Drew Brees is fast closing the gap for MVP. Another week like last week and it's a two-horse race. Chiefs are out of Wildcard contention and it would take a miracle for the Chargers to make it. It's between the Jets and the Bengals as to who'll go through. Remember you need a two-game turnaround with 2 weeks to go. Bengals are at home against the Cardinals (who themselves are playing for NFC Wildcard) and Ravens. Chargers face trips to Detroit and Oakland...and are 21-1 in December over a 5 year period. The Jets host the giants and then travel to a resurgent Miami. Oakalnd travel to Kansas and host the Chargers. It's not even worth worrying about the Titans record because they're unable to even beat the Colts... My money would be on the Bengals and Chargers. Meanwhile in the NFC Detroit and the Falcons have pretty much cemented the wildcard spots - short of complete capitulation and a miracle in Arizona or New York/Dallas. Though should that happen the Cardinals and Seahawks could find themselves playing off for a wildcard berth should they both win this week against the Bengals and Niners respectively, which I can't see happening. The Giants should be good for the top of NFC East as long as they can get the win this week against the Jets, though it could go down to the wire depending on which Eagles side shows up this week.
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I'm backing Dallas to win their division. Both Romo and Eli have had good seasons, but I have a feeling the Giants will capitulate. Will beat the Jets this week, and then lose the final game.
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I think Eli Manning has done remarkable things with a very mediocre rushing side (averaging just 86 YPG) and a defence conceding 385 YPG (4th worst in NFL behind Pats, Pack and Bucs).
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buddha69 wrote:1st out of the forumers in NFL Fantasy. Beat it lads.
Edited by buddha69: 21/12/2011 11:51:15 AM Congrats! Bit disapointed with my season. Started out pretty well, getting Peyton and Chris Johnson in the draft, and went backwards from there!
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afromanGT wrote:[quote] It's not even worth worrying about the Titans record because they're unable to even beat the Colts...
This so fucking much.
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f1worldchamp wrote:buddha69 wrote:1st out of the forumers in NFL Fantasy. Beat it lads.
Edited by buddha69: 21/12/2011 11:51:15 AM Congrats! Bit disapointed with my season. Started out pretty well, getting Peyton and Chris Johnson in the draft, and went backwards from there! I'm more upset that I led the table from week 2-12 and then fell in a heap and have won one of my last four.
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Orlovsky with a great final drive to get the Colts up over Houston. From what I've seen of Orlovsky, he hasn't been too bad. By no means a star, but a solid back-up.
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Benjo wrote:Orlovsky with a great final drive to get the Colts up over Houston. From what I've seen of Orlovsky, he hasn't been too bad. By no means a star, but a solid back-up. Colts hitting form at the wrong time! Playing themselves out of the Andrew Luck sweepstakes.
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The Colts have bene performing a LOT better since Orlovski started for them. I was almost going to bet on the Colts last night and talked myself out of it. Goddamn. Quote:Colts hitting form at the wrong time! Playing themselves out of the Andrew Luck sweepstakes. It'll be a close run thing for first draft pick...but Vikings will keep starting Ponder and St Louis aren't likely to change from Sam Bradford, so the first pick for either of those teams will probably be a WR. My picks for the rest of the week are Baltimore, Denver, Carolina, Bengals, Oakland, New England, Giants, Pittsburgh, Tennessee, Washington, Detroit, Dallas, Niners, Packers, Saints.
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f1worldchamp wrote:Benjo wrote:Orlovsky with a great final drive to get the Colts up over Houston. From what I've seen of Orlovsky, he hasn't been too bad. By no means a star, but a solid back-up. Colts hitting form at the wrong time! Playing themselves out of the Andrew Luck sweepstakes. This. Now even with the Rams and Vikings on 2 wins. Will be interesting.
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afromanGT wrote:Quote:Colts hitting form at the wrong time! Playing themselves out of the Andrew Luck sweepstakes. It'll be a close run thing for first draft pick...but Vikings will keep starting Ponder and St Louis aren't likely to change from Sam Bradford, so the first pick for either of those teams will probably be a WR. Agree that the other teams have less need to draft a QB, but there's nothing stopping either of them deciding Luck has more chance of being their franchise QB than what they've got.
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f1worldchamp wrote:afromanGT wrote:Quote:Colts hitting form at the wrong time! Playing themselves out of the Andrew Luck sweepstakes. It'll be a close run thing for first draft pick...but Vikings will keep starting Ponder and St Louis aren't likely to change from Sam Bradford, so the first pick for either of those teams will probably be a WR. Agree that the other teams have less need to draft a QB, but there's nothing stopping either of them deciding Luck has more chance of being their franchise QB than what they've got. Fair point, they could trade either one of those and get some decent players or a high draft pick in return. Honestly wouldn't be surprised to see either franchise do a Bengals and take two high picks and set up a rookie WR/QB team like with Dalton/Green, which has been a great success, injuries aside. You've also got to remember that at QB there's Luck and Heisman trophy winner Griffin III who will both probably go in the first round, and either one would be a superb understudy for Manning - who they may end up persisting with anyway. That said, a loss next week to Jacksonville would guarantee them first pick anyway.
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If the Colts take Luck, or even Grifin III, there's potential for another Green Bay situation to arise. A veteran champion quarterback (Favre), playing out his final years whilst tutoring his young understudy (Rodgers), who goes on to be the leader of the team for years to come, leading them to become one of the best teams in the league.
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Benjo wrote:If the Colts take Luck, or even Grifin III, there's potential for another Green Bay situation to arise. A veteran champion quarterback (Favre), playing out his final years whilst tutoring his young understudy (Rodgers), who goes on to be the leader of the team for years to come, leading them to become one of the best teams in the league. The difference being that Farve was fully fit when the Packers drafted Rodgers and had three years of starting ahead of his understudy. I'm not sure that Manning has three years left in him with his neck the way it is. One more hit to the head and his career is over. And while that's a risk worth taking for a side lower down the pecking order, it's not worth it for perennial high-rollers like the Colts. I think that the best thing for the Colts to do is tank next week, take that number 1 draft pick and go for Luck, use Manning as trade-bait for an experienced defensive player like Revis and make a big move for Vincent Jackson on the waiver to bulk up their WR stocks and give Luck someone to throw to.
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Victor Cruz pulls off a 99 yard reception on 3rd and 10. 10-7 to the Giants with 2 minutes to go in the 1st half. :lol: at the Pats. Down 17-0 to the Dolphins Marshall on fire
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Mark Sanchez is woeful.
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buddha69 wrote::lol: at the Pats. Down 17-0 to the Dolphins Marshall on fire And they then proceeded to let us score on 5 straight possessions :P
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If we had followed form and beaten the Colts, next week we would be playing for the AFC South against the Texans. Frustrating but thats Football!
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Eagles have got their shit together. Beat Dallas comfortably this morning
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buddha69 wrote:Mark Sanchez is woeful. NFL's fan question of the day "Which 10 people would you take to the super bowl?" "Mark Sanchez. It's the only way he'll ever be there." 45 TD's this season for Rodgers in a 5 TD game with just 283 passing yards is immense. 5 TD's short of Brady's record. Can he get there?
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I don't think so. I don't think he will play out the whole game next week. Will likely see Flynn take a few snaps like this morning.. Especially considering Suh will be on the other side of the line of scrimmage. Nevertheless, still a lock in for MVP.
Looking forward to Giants and Cowboys next week. Gonna be a ripper. AFC West is up for grabs as well. Denver are sliding.
Don't have a video as of yet, but did anyone see THAT touchdown for Cinncinati? You'll know the one I'm talking about if you've seen it. Unfuckingbelievable.
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It's a huge way to reply to Brees' effort last week. 21/29 283 5TD 142.7. Honestly, I expect a shoot-out next week. He'll start and if we have a big first half and get 3 TD's, I think we might see if we can get to Brady's record. It's a shame that we didn't show up last week and he needs so many. Cowboys v Giants next week is going to be fucking huge. I'd love to see the Chargers beat the Raiders and the Chiefs roll the Broncos to make it a 3-way tie in AFC West. Quote:Don't have a video as of yet, but did anyone see THAT touchdown for Cinncinati? You'll know the one I'm talking about if you've seen it. Unfuckingbelievable. Buddha posted it up the page.
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Interesting stat for you: Arron Rodgers has a rating of 155.1 when passing to Jordy Nelson, the best in the NFL. Even Brady to Welker isn't as potent.
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He stuttered a bit there...but Brees has broken Dan Marino's record.
And to Sproles no less to seal my fantasy win.
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Poor Matt Ryan. Hasn't been that bad today and that shows how well the Saints are playing. Awesome game fromall of them.
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Benjo wrote:Poor Matt Ryan. Hasn't been that bad today and that shows how well the Saints are playing. Awesome game fromall of them. The saints defence are coming into form. Matt Ryan had a good game, he got 128 yards out of Julio Jones. And without Nick Collins I don't think the Packers can beat them.
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Also, congrats to Drew Brees on breaking Dan Marino's record.
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Not just breaking it, smashing it. He's going to put up another 300 yard game next week for sure.
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You guys in for the play-off fantasy?
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Yeah, I'm down.
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Had a bit of a look at the play-offs and the upcoming results...I can't see a lot changing this weekend, just results consolidating current standings.
So The Seeding goes thus: AFC... 1. Pats (12-3, East) 2. Ravens (11-4 North) 3. Texans (10-5 South) 4. Broncos (8-7 West) (possibly Raiders or Chargers depending on results) 5. Steelers (11-4 North) 6. Bengals (9-6 North) (possibly Jets depending on results)
NFC... 1. Packers (14-1 North) 2. Niners (12-3 West) 3. Saints (12-3 South) 4. Giants (8-7 East) (Potentially Cowboys) 5. Lions (10-5 North) 6. Falcons (9-6 South)
So the run in looks like... 1. Giants v Detroit 2. Saints v Falcons
Winner game 1 v Packers Winner game 2 v Niners
Predicting Packers v Saints NFC championship.
1. Texans v Bengals 2. Broncos v Steelers
Winner game 1 v Ravens Winner game 2 v Patriots
Predicting Ravens v Patriots AFC championship.
Packers v Ravens superbowl.
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Afro summed it up perfectly. Agree that the Superbowl will be Packers and Ravens.
We really need a couple of db's in the draft this year. It's awful. Chung and McCourty are good, but if they're injured like they have been, that leaves us very vulnerable. I can't see us winning another Super Bowl until we sort out our secondary. Brady can't be relied on to win the game every week.
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The draft this year is definitely going to be interesting, with the Packers, Giants AND Patriots all having potentially late round picks and all looking for DB's.
The Packers have some quality in Woodson and Collins, but Sheilds loses his cool at times and although Charlie Peprah can perform, we don't have the second CB to control in cover-2 plays. Tramon Williams and Morgan Burnett are quality in the air, but rubbish on the stop.
To put it in perspective, the Patriots have conceded 4,407 yards, the Packers 4,294, the Saints 4,020 and the Vikings 3,902 (yes, the three teams who have conceded the most yards are in the play-offs, go figure).
But the telling stat is that the Patriots have 19 picks, the Saints have just 8, 7 for the vikings, while the Pack have an incredible 29. 8 more than the no. 1 ranked Defence of the Niners.
Also worth noting that the Saints have conceded the most 40+ yd plays (9) and the Patriots have conceded the most 20+ yd plays (76).
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Also interesting to note the 49ers are yet to concede a rushing TD this year. Remarkable.
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They conceded a rushing TD to Marshawn Lynch on the weekend.
Edited by afromanGT: 29/12/2011 03:39:35 PM
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I don't think the Saints beating the 49ers, in SF, is a forgone conclusion. How much Brees can throw it will depend on how the weather holds up. If the weather is bad, in SF have a fantastic run defence and great running offence, so it plays into their hands. Chances of it being windy in SF are pretty good, especially if it's a late afternoon game. The Steelers chances rest on Big Bens ankle. If he stays healthy, you can't count them out. But I don't think he is, so agree the AFC title should be Ravens vs Pats. I read on ESPN Brady is on a 34-1 home streak in the regular season and a 0-2 home streak in the postseason. Again, cold weather might affect his ability to throw.
I like this stat as well: Aaron Rodgers has 39 more touchdown passes than interceptions -- a greater figure than the total number of touchdown passes by any NFL quarterback other than Drew Brees.
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Quote:The Steelers chances rest on Big Bens ankle. If he stays healthy, you can't count them out. But I don't think he is, so agree the AFC title should be Ravens vs Pats. I think the Steelers chances will depend on who goes through out of Denver and Oakland. Steelers can beat Oakland, but I don't think they'll be able to beat the Broncos D, with Roethlisberger unable to roll out of the pocket as easily as he usually does, guys like Von Miller and DJ Williams are going to be a nightmare for him. As for the Saints and Niners. I think it's wrong to discount the immense rush threat that the Saints possess. Between Thomas, Sproles and Ingram, they're going to be tough to stop and there's going to be a lot of i-formation going on. Looking at their Rush D, the teams they've played haven't exactly been rushing champions...when they playe dthe Eagles, sure they kept McCoy to 18 yards, but they gave away 75 to Vick...and another 400 in the air. They conceded 92 of 253 yards against the Ravens on the ground and lost. Against the good rushing teams they over-commit to shutting down the run and it leaves them vulnerable to big plays in the air, which Brees can capitalise on. Also worth noting that Alex Smith is an awful QB. Don't get me wrong, I'd rather play the Niners at Lambeau than the Saints. But I can't see the Niners beating them.
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Predictions this week: Packers, Texans, Colts, Jets, Bears, Patriots, Saints, Eagles, Niners, Cards, Falcons, Bengals, Steelers, Broncos, Chargers, Giants.
The Broncos game will definitely be an interesting one, and the Colts are going to find it hard to out-awful the Jaguars to the number 1 draft pick.
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Not sure whether to be glad Packers have so many pro-bowl players or not.
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Pretty straight forward weekend. Exciting games, but no real shocking results.
Broncos v Kansas was fucking woeful.
No surprise that the Packers v Lions was a shoot-out. If only Rodgers had played, he'd have broken Brady's record for TD's in a season. As it is, he breaks the record for passer rating, finishing the season with 122.5. Hell of a game by Flynn, SIX TD's is insane, especially coming from behind and getting it right this time (Unlike last season v Patriots). He'll get snapped up on FA this year by someone like the Jets or Dolphins (depending where Manning ends up).
The big question for the playoffs: How does the team that's conceded the most 40+ yd plays this season stop Calvin Johnson?
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Who's made their playoffs team?
QB- Brees RB- Foster RB- Turner WR- Johnson WR- Cruz TE- Graham K- Kasay Def- Lions
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Brees Bradshaw Sproles Johnson Cruz Graham Kasay Steelers
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Am I the only one who isn't picking Turner and Foster at RB? :lol:
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Going to spend tonight watching this morning's College Bowl games. Quite the end to the Michigan State game. Watching the Rose Bowl at the moment. Good God Monte Ball is good. Good bet he'll be the highest selected RB this year, he's SO hard to stop!
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:lol: at Clemson. Embarrassing.
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They were never going to win. But that's a fucking disaster :lol: I have no idea how they were favourite with the bookies.
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afromanGT wrote:Going to spend tonight watching this morning's College Bowl games. Quite the end to the Michigan State game. Watching the Rose Bowl at the moment. Good God Monte Ball is good. Good bet he'll be the highest selected RB this year, he's SO hard to stop! He isn't nominating for this year.
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Stafford on fire at the moment!
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Shaker wrote:Stafford on fire at the moment! Only just really started watching NFL in the last few months so I'm very green but Stafford and Brees looked quality, it was a great game to watch. With nothing to do in the uni break I've found myself watching a few games on ONE here and there and I'm liking what I'm seeing, the Saints seem to have featured in most the games I have caught so I'm leaning towards supporting them if I ever decide to get into the game but I'm still way to new to everything at this stage.
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buddha69 wrote:afromanGT wrote:Going to spend tonight watching this morning's College Bowl games. Quite the end to the Michigan State game. Watching the Rose Bowl at the moment. Good God Monte Ball is good. Good bet he'll be the highest selected RB this year, he's SO hard to stop! He isn't nominating for this year. Yeah, he's only just 21 so I'm not really surprised. But he'll be a first round pick when he does for sure. He's averaging 130yds and 2.8 TD's a game. The games this morning were definitely interesting. Dalton just couldn't handle the pressure unfortunately. Stafford performed well...but not well enough compared to that other machine... 2 TD's and 211 yards for Johnson is immense again, but fark they have no running game at all. Big night for Sproles as well. 80 odd all purpose yards and a handy 2 TD's.
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Fredsta wrote:Shaker wrote:Stafford on fire at the moment! Only just really started watching NFL in the last few months so I'm very green but Stafford and Brees looked quality, it was a great game to watch. With nothing to do in the uni break I've found myself watching a few games on ONE here and there and I'm liking what I'm seeing, the Saints seem to have featured in most the games I have caught so I'm leaning towards supporting them if I ever decide to get into the game but I'm still way to new to everything at this stage. Always good to have another NFL fan on here. Good win for the Saints this morning. Saw the first half and Stafford was ripping up. Hoping Tebow can get up over Pittsburgh tomorrow. I'd rather face the Broncos again than a Steelers side with a defense that will shut us down if we play like we have in the past two weeks and concede huge leads. Interesting to note the Patriots haven't won a playoff game in the past three seasons. Keep meaning to post a picture of my Brady jersey I got for Christmas.
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Getting a broner for Fredsta being an NFL convert.
Stafford's game was quality this morning. Honestly, I think if he hadn't had to dodge in between a marching band and US army flag girls for his warm-up he'd probably have been a lot more focussed and closed the game out. That was a bit of a dick move by New Orleans.
It isn't a question of whether Tebow can get up over Pittsburgh, more a question of whether the Broncos D - specifically Von Miller and DJ Williams - can maul an immobile Roethlisberger (who's put on about 10kg in the last couple of weeks). Expect to see a lot of blitzing from the Broncos D.
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Disappointing effort by the Bengals, thought they were a definite show. Ravens should tear apart the Texans next week though. Saints Niners will be a cracker
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TEBOW TIME STRIKES AGAIN!
What a pass for the win in OT. Very glad we will be playing them next week.
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Ben Roethlisberger was fucking shocking once again. Why the Steelers continued to play him in that shape with so many injuries I'll never know.
Easy wins for the Ravens and Patriots next week IMO. I thought the Bengals would put up more of a fight but Dalton really choked.
In the NFC the Niners and Saints game should be a pearler. Prolific O v Brutally organised D always makes for good games. I'm hoping that the Niners can get up, because I'd rather the Packers take on Alex Smith than Drew Brees if they win.
Packers v Giants is an interesting one. We've already beaten them once, but I marked them down early in the season as one of a handful of teams that could knock us off. Jason Pierre-Paul is going to need double-coverage from the O-line for sure.
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The Giants are a very unpredictable team. The way Eli has played this year has been nothing short of brilliant. I think he could keep up with Rodgers in a shootout. But I'd still take Green Bay over them. Even so, that unpredictability makes the game an interesting one.
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Cruz and Nicks are almost as much of a threat as Jennings and Driver. Rodgers is a better QB...but the Giants DE's are more of a threat than the Packers'.
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Nice...apart from the whole 'brady' thing :P
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When did Alex Smith come good?
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Shaker wrote:When did Alex Smith come good? He didn't, the Saints D is just that bad. They've given up 15 40+ yd plays this season. More than any other team. If the Giants beat the Packers, the Niners are going to the superbowl. So it's up to us to stop them.
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The Ravens cruise through courtesy of TJ Yates' inexperience.
Haven't been this nervous ahead of a game all season as I am for Giants v Packers.
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Packers with a nasty case of the drops again. It's going to be a long afternoon.
Not putting enough pressure on Manning either.
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Three fumbles and the Packers season is over.
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Going for the Giants. Do not want Harbaugh v Harbaugh 'bowl. And Alex Smith is too shit a QB to deserve a ring.
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Had $50 on the Ravens from the start of the season! Cmon Baltimore!
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Flacco winning a 'bowl doesn't bare thinking.
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Fuckity fuck fuck fuck. Taken me a day to try and come to terms. What a terrible game. Drops, fumbles, blown coverage, missed tackles. Had it all. 15-1 goes up in smoke. Did I say fuck?
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f1worldchamp wrote:Fuckity fuck fuck fuck. Taken me a day to try and come to terms. What a terrible game. Drops, fumbles, blown coverage, missed tackles. Had it all. 15-1 goes up in smoke. Did I say fuck? We forgot the basics. I think the 15-1 season went to our head. Rodgers was over-pegging too many passes. Too many lads were taking their eye off the ball at the wrong time (starks, Finley and Cobb especially). They'll be drilled in the off-season hard for it and we'll be back more lethal than ever next season. Donald Driver insists that he's staying on. But it looks increasingly like Ryan Grant is leaving. That doesn't bother me though, the RB's coming through this year's draft look amazing.
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I think you can hand it to the patriots now. Although id personally like to see the 49ers or Ravens win it
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bomberboy wrote:I think you can hand it to the patriots now. Although id personally like to see the 49ers or Ravens win it The Ravens D are capable of stopping the Patriots. But their offence is too Ray Rice oriented. I think the Giants are the team to beat with the way Manning is playing.
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Billy Cundiff's a fucking mong.
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Shaker wrote:Billy Cundiff's a fucking mong. +1. If it were the Superbowl, Scott Norwood would have some company.
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Fucking rubbish kick. How do you miss from there? And let Brady into the bowl AGAIN?!
Fucking how good is Jason Pierre-Paul?
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Early in the 4th and the niners lead 14-10 having converted on 0 of 8 3rd downs.
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For the second time in four years, Lawrence Tynes kicks the New York Giants into the Super Bowl in OT and we're heading for a replay of Super Bowl XLII.
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Giants must beat those insufferable Patriots. [-o<
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I hate both, hope the Giants win though.
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YEOW! Superbowl here we come!
Having said that, very worried about Pierre-Paul. Guy is a machine. He gets to Brady early and it's gonna be a long game. Especially with Eli having the season he has.
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f1worldchamp wrote:Giants must beat those insufferable Patriots. [-o< This. Nothing worse than the drivel we're going to hear if they win again. Quote:Especially with Eli having the season he has. Eli struggled against the pass rush of the niners. Good thing the Pats don't really have one. But I'd love nothing more than to see the 'inferior' Manning grab his second ring and one-up Peyton at SOMETHING.
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The beginning of the end. Quote:INDIANAPOLIS -- Colts owner Jim Irsay is upset Peyton Manning took his complaints public this week. Shortly after introducing new coach Chuck Pagano on Thursday, Irsay said Manning should have kept his thoughts "in the family." When asked whether a decision on Manning was next, Irsay went into a long answer, calling Manning a "politician" and suggested he was "campaigning" publicly.
In an interview this week with The Indianapolis Star, Manning said morale at the team complex was "not the best."
Irsay did not say whether the next move in Indy's overhaul will be about Manning's $28 million bonus, due March 8. Instead, Irsay says the decision will be made solely on whether Manning is healthy enough to play. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7507255/indianapolis-colts-jim-irsay-upset-peyton-manning-manning-went-public-commentsI read an article recently that the 49ers would be a likely destination. Team is 90% there and a top QB might put them over the top. Makes sense, though I still reckon the Redskins or the Jets are more chance.
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The Redskins and Jets will both be in for Flynn (who'll probably end up at Miami with Philbin anyway).
The Niners would throw a lot at Manning, they're not going to win a 'bowl with Smith as their QB that's for sure.
Where Manning ends up will depend on whether the Colts decide it's worth paying him that 28m clause to stop him going into UFA so they can trade him.
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Quote:INDIANAPOLIS -- Green Bay quarterback Aaron Rodgers has won the 2011 Associated Press NFL Most Valuable Player award in a landslide.
Rodgers earned 48 votes to two for New Orleans quarterback Drew Brees in balloting by a nationwide panel of 50 media members who regularly cover the NFL. The Packers star is the first Green Bay player honored since Brett Favre concluded a run of three straight seasons as MVP in 1997.
"It means a lot to be recognized as a consistent player and contributing on my team," Rodgers said. "I think it's an award that relies on a player having the support of his teammates, obviously, guys blocking, guys running, guys catching, guys making plays. But I'm very honored to receive the award."
Rodgers received a standing ovation after his name was announced by Indianapolis Colts quarterback Peyton Manning, the league's only four-time MVP. The award was presented on the "NFL Honors" primetime special Saturday night on NBC.
"We're all really excited to see you back on the field next year," Rodgers told Manning.
Rodgers led the NFL in passing with a 122.5 rating built on 45 touchdown passes, six interceptions and a 68.3 completion percentage as the Packers went 15-1 and won the NFC North. The Packers were beaten by the New York Giants at Lambeau Field in the divisional round.
"People really count on me to be consistent each week, to play well. Knowing that my performance, the fact that I touch the ball every play, I have a direct impact on the game, the way I play," Rodgers said. "And if I'm playing consistent and doing things I know I'm supposed to do, we've been able to have some success because of it."
He joins former Packers Bart Starr, Jim Taylor and Paul Hornung as MVPs.
Rodgers is the third consecutive quarterback voted MVP, joining New England's Tom Brady (2007, 2010) and Indianapolis' Peyton Manning (2008, 2009).
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7540891/nfl-awards-green-bay-packers-aaron-rodgers-wins-mvp-landslide-vote
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Superbowl tomorrow, yeow! Personally, I think the Giants will win, but that doesn't mean I'm not gonna cheer for New England. And it is worth noting Brady was awful last week and he knew it...I wouldn't want to be lining up against a motivated Tom Brady.
Predictions for tomorrow? Giants by 4 for me. I hope I'm proven wrong.
Awards have been handed out as well by the NFL. MVP: Aaron Rodgers Offensive Player: Drew Brees Defensive Player: Terell Suggs Offensive Rookie: Cam Newton Defensive Rookie: Von Miller Coach: Jim Haurghbaur or how ever you spell it. Comeback Player: Matthew Stafford.
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Pissed off, i work from 9-7 on mondays so miss all the superbowl. Gay.
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10-9 halftime.
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Giants win 21-17. Thank heavens for that.
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Arggggghhhhh 'World Champion'
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Well done to the Giants. They played better, they took their chances.
Like any championship game, there are a lot of what ifs. What if Gronk had been fit? Didn't look like himself out there. A fit Gronkowski would have pulled in that catch which went for an intercept. What if Welker had pulled in that catch? Normally he would have made that catch. What if Branch and Hernandez had held on on the final drive and given us more time? What if we hadn't had 12 men on the field in the first quarter when we forced the fumble? What if the two Giants fumbles had bounced differently?
Having said that, I still think the Giants were the best team on the day. It's not like they were lucky to score, they deserved it more than us.
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Hard luck to the Pats, but what a finish that was. Sensational performance from many of the Giants and they should have had the game stitched up at the half aside from a few questionable calls and plays.
Also feels good because I fucking hate Brady, Belichick and Kraft. Immense tools.
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afromanGT wrote:Also feels good because I fucking hate Brady, Belichick and Kraft. Immense tools. Kraft I can handle. He seems like a genuine fan turned owner. Hey, he built Gillette Stadium with his own $$. Belichick is a cheating bastard and should have been thrown out of the game if Goodell had any balls. So I'm glad they lost.:d
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Quote:Hey, he built Gillette Stadium with his own $$. He's still the man who hired Belicheck...and didn't fire him after the whole incident in 07. Now that I'm a little more sober...that catch by Manningham was superb. Great work to pull that one in. That play changed the game. I was a little disappointed that Pierre-Paul didn't have a bigger game, but he still played very well. That man is going to be a Hall of Famer.
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Various sites wrote:Tom Brady's team are said to be furious after Gisele Bundchen poured salt on their wounds following the New England Patriots' defeat at the Super Bowl yesterday.
Just moments after Brady's team lost to the New York Giants 21-17, the supermodel was overheard slamming her husband's side in response to taunts from a fans.
While waiting for the elevator to leave the VIP suites at Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis, Giselle let rip in a F-word rant which saw her slam his teammates efforts on the field.
In video footage capture by theinsider.com, she was heard saying: 'My husband can not f****ing throw the ball and catch the ball at the same time. I can't believe they dropped the ball so many times.'
Her swipe at the Patriot receivers are said to have left Brady's fellow players feeling 'disappointed', with claims she violated 'the 'code of brotherhood.'
A source told TMZ: 'It's like knocking someone when they are down.'
Later the Brazilian model met with her husband behind the scenes at the event where she consoled him with hugs.
Wearing a leather jacket, with a black dress over her black trousers and a black and white scarf, Gisele headed behind the scenes at the stadium to try and brighten her husband's evening.
According to reports, he was so dejected after the match had finished that he spent almost 20 minutes sat down in the Patriots locker room staring at the floor.
She kept a big smile on her face and a tight grip on Brady's hand as the quarterback appeared sullen-faced.
The couple made their way out of the stadium and boarded the team's bus at the end of the game.
Brady had started the game hoping to equal Joe Montana's record of four Super Bowl wins, but early mistakes put the New York Giants in a strong position.
Though the Patriots regained their composure and managed to claw their way back - victory was eventually taken by the Giants in the closing minutes.
Speaking to Boston.com media members, Tom somberly said: 'You know, we fought to the end. You know, we're very proud of that. Just came up a little bit short.'
Asked if he thought he could lead his team to a winning touchdown after getting the ball back with one minute left, the 34-year-old replied: 'Yeah, we tried, you know.
'We just, we got to the fifty and kind of ran out of time and threw a hail mary at the end. I don't know how close we were to getting it.'
The quarterback also added: 'As a competitor, we all hate to lose. We fight as hard as we can and sometimes you get beat. I'm proud of our team for the way that we hung in there all season.
'We just kept fighting until the end and it came down to one play at the end of the game. I give (the Giants) a lot of credit for the plays they made. They deserved to win and hopefully we'll be back at some point.'
After making their way onto the team bus Tom sat down and was seen resting his head against the back of the seat in front of him, staring at the floor like he did in the dressing room earlier that evening. Giselle Bundchen: glory hunting whore.
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Poor form by her.
At least you can tell Brady is disappointed and dejected. Hopefully good inspiration for next season.
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Any player/team would be dejected after losing the super bowl. And if you weren't it's time to retire.
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Never got any of the Brady hate. Sure, he doesn't have a personality as likable of Rodgers or Brees, but he's not an unpleasant guy. He's confident of his abilities, but not in an arrogant way. He knows he has to work hard to be the best.
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Benjo wrote:Never got any of the Brady hate. Sure, he doesn't have a personality as likable of Rodgers or Brees, but he's not an unpleasant guy. He's confident of his abilities, but not in an arrogant way. He knows he has to work hard to be the best. Much of his 'success' came in an era where the Patriots were repeatedly accused of cheating (and caught at least once). He's an athlete of the standard you'd expect at this level. But there's just something detestable about him.
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I think Brady may have had too much success too quickly, and gave the impression he didn't pay his dues. Also suffers from the stink that comes off Belichick.
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f1worldchamp wrote:I think Brady may have had too much success too quickly, and gave the impression he didn't pay his dues. Also suffers from the stink that comes off Belichick. The thing you have to remember with Brady is that he was a sixth round pick. His early 'success' was largely off the back of Bledisloe.
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afromanGT wrote:f1worldchamp wrote:I think Brady may have had too much success too quickly, and gave the impression he didn't pay his dues. Also suffers from the stink that comes off Belichick. The thing you have to remember with Brady is that he was a sixth round pick. His early 'success' was largely off the back of Bledisloe. Hence the didn't pay his dues bit.
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Well...we'll probably only have to endure another five or so seasons of him.
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afromanGT wrote:Well...we'll probably only have to endure another five or so seasons of him. We'll have to wait and see what Gisele decides.:lol:
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Well...she can't continue to be married to a man who only has THREE super bowl rings. :lol:
His shoulder will pack it in from recurring injuries over the next few seasons.
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It's Combine week :)
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Snoooooze. Wake me on draft day...
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Football is football. And I want to see how RG3 and Luck perform under genuine pressure.
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ESPN wrote:Dave Duerson's family sues NFL
CHICAGO -- The family of former Chicago Bears player Dave Duerson filed a wrongful death suit against the NFL on Thursday, claiming the league didn't do enough to prevent or treat the concussions that severely damaged his brain before he killed himself last year.
The suit was filed in Chicago on behalf of Duerson's son, Tregg, and three other children. Duerson died on Feb. 17, 2011, of a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the chest at his home in Sunny Isles Beach, Fla.
Duerson's family wants to know more about the NFL's handling of concussions during his career, according to his son.
"If they knowingly failed to inform and implement proper safety concussion procedures, then their indifference was the epitome of injustice," Tregg Duerson said at a news conference announcing the lawsuit. "The inactions of the past inevitably led to the demise and death of my father.
The lawsuit accuses the NFL of negligently causing the brain damage that led Duerson to take his own life at the age of 50 by not warning him of the negative effects of concussions. Attorney Thomas Demetrio, who is representing Duerson's family, said the NFL should have been a leader in educating current and former players about head injuries.
"They not only dropped the ball, they maintained until current times that there was no connection between playing football, receiving concussions and brain damage," Demetrio said. "That's wrong."
The NFL said in a statement that it had not yet seen the lawsuit.
"Dave Duerson was an outstanding football player and citizen who made so many positive contributions but unfortunately encountered serious personal challenges later in his life," the NFL said. "We sympathize with the Duerson family and continue to be saddened by this tragedy."
The suit also names helmet maker Riddell Inc., alleging that the helmets didn't adequately protect players from concussions. The company declined comment.
A native of Muncie, Ind., Duerson was a third-round draft pick by the Bears in 1983 out of Notre Dame and played 11 seasons in the NFL before retiring in 1993. He won Super Bowls with the 1985 Bears and 1990 Giants, and played in four Pro Bowls.
The lawsuit was filed less than a week after nearly a dozen former NFL players living in Louisiana sued the NFL over their own concussions.
Several former New Orleans Saints players are among the 11 ex-players named as plaintiffs in the class-action lawsuit filed Friday in federal court in New Orleans. The lawsuit says each of them has developed mental or physical problems from concussions or concussion-like symptoms. Several suits blaming the NFL for concussion-related dementia and brain disease already have been consolidated in Philadelphia.
Duerson had at least 10 concussions in his NFL career, according to his family, and lost consciousness during some. He left notes for his family asking that his brain be donated to science, and researchers at the Center for the Study of Traumatic Encephalopathy at Boston University's School of Medicine concluded he had "moderately advanced" brain damage and CTE related to blows to the head. The damage started to manifest itself about 10 years before his death, his son said, though the changes were gradual.
"It was slow deterioration, day after day," Tregg Duerson said. "You can see his mannerisms change toward the end of his life."
The lawsuit says brain damage affected his judgment, inhibition and impulse control.
"My dad donating his brain as his last plea, we feel as though we're taking that to the next level," Tregg Duerson said. "We believe that he would've wanted us to pursue this, and because of that belief, we feel obligated to do so."
Copyright 2012 by The Associated Press So this is how NFL dies...
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afromanGT wrote:So this is how NFL dies... It could be Afro Quote:The NFL is done for the year, but it is not pure fantasy to suggest that it may be done for good in the not-too-distant future. How might such a doomsday scenario play out and what would be the economic and social consequences? By now we're all familiar with the growing phenomenon of head injuries and cognitive problems among football players, even at the high school level. In 2009, Malcolm Gladwell asked whether football might someday come to an end, a concern seconded recently by Jonah Lehrer. Before you say that football is far too big to ever disappear, consider the history: If you look at the stocks in the Fortune 500 from 1983, for example, 40 percent of those companies no longer exist. The original version of Napster no longer exists, largely because of lawsuits. No matter how well a business matches economic conditions at one point in time, it's not a lock to be a leader in the future, and that is true for the NFL too. Sports are not immune to these pressures. In the first half of the 20th century, the three big sports were baseball, boxing, and horse racing, and today only one of those is still a marquee attraction. The most plausible route to the death of football starts with liability suits.1 Precollegiate football is already sustaining 90,000 or more concussions each year. If ex-players start winning judgments, insurance companies might cease to insure colleges and high schools against football-related lawsuits. Coaches, team physicians, and referees would become increasingly nervous about their financial exposure in our litigious society. If you are coaching a high school football team, or refereeing a game as a volunteer, it is sobering to think that you could be hit with a $2 million lawsuit at any point in time. A lot of people will see it as easier to just stay away. More and more modern parents will keep their kids out of playing football, and there tends to be a "contagion effect" with such decisions; once some parents have second thoughts, many others follow suit. We have seen such domino effects with the risks of smoking or driving without seatbelts, two unsafe practices that were common in the 1960s but are much rarer today. The end result is that the NFL's feeder system would dry up and advertisers and networks would shy away from associating with the league, owing to adverse publicity and some chance of being named as co-defendants in future lawsuits. It may not matter that the losses from these lawsuits are much smaller than the total revenue from the sport as a whole. As our broader health care sector indicates (try buying private insurance when you have a history of cancer treatment), insurers don't like to go where they know they will take a beating. That means just about everyone could be exposed to fear of legal action. This slow death march could easily take 10 to 15 years. Imagine the timeline. A couple more college players — or worse, high schoolers — commit suicide with autopsies showing CTE. A jury makes a huge award of $20 million to a family. A class-action suit shapes up with real legs, the NFL keeps changing its rules, but it turns out that less than concussion levels of constant head contact still produce CTE. Technological solutions (new helmets, pads) are tried and they fail to solve the problem. Soon high schools decide it isn't worth it. The Ivy League quits football, then California shuts down its participation, busting up the Pac-12. Then the Big Ten calls it quits, followed by the East Coast schools. Now it's mainly a regional sport in the southeast and Texas/Oklahoma. The socioeconomic picture of a football player becomes more homogeneous: poor, weak home life, poorly educated. Ford and Chevy pull their advertising, as does IBM and eventually the beer companies. There's a lot less money in the sport, and at first it's "the next hockey" and then it's "the next rugby," and finally the franchises start to shutter. Along the way, you would have an NFL with much lower talent levels, less training, and probably greater player representation from poorer countries, where the demand for money is higher and the demand for safety is lower. Finally, the NFL is marginalized as less-dangerous sports gobble up its market share. People — American people — might actually start calling "soccer" by the moniker of "football." Despite its undeniable popularity — and the sense that the game is everywhere — the aggregate economic effect of losing the NFL would not actually be that large. League revenues are around $10 billion per year while U.S. GDP is around $15,300 billion. But that doesn't mean everyone would be fine. Big stadiums will lose a lot of their value and that will drag down neighboring bars and restaurants, causing a lot of them to shut their doors. Cable TV will be less profitable, and this will hasten the movement of TV-watching, if we can still call it that, to the web. Super Bowl Sunday will no longer be the best time to go shopping for a new car at the dealership. Take Green Bay as a case study: A 2009 study of the economic impact of the Packers' stadium estimated "$282 million in output, 2,560 jobs and $124.3 million in earnings, and $15.2 million in tax revenues." That's small potatoes for the national economy as a whole, but for a small and somewhat remote city of 104,000, it is a big deal indeed.2 Any location where football is the only game in town will suffer. If the Jets and Giants go, New York still has numerous other pro sports teams, Broadway, high-end shopping, skyscrapers, fine dining, and many other cultural activities. If college football dies, Norman, Oklahoma (current home to one of us), has … noodling? And what about Clemson, in South Carolina, which relies on the periodic weekend football surge into town for its restaurant and retail sales? Imagine a small place of 12,000 people that periodically receives a sudden influx of 100,000 visitors or more, most of them eager to spend money on what is one of their major leisure outings. It's like a port in the Caribbean losing its cruise ship traffic. (Overall, the loss of football could actually increase migration from rural to urban areas over time. Football-dependent areas are especially prominent in rural America, and some of them will lose a lot of money and jobs.) Outside of sports, American human capital and productivity probably rise. No football Saturdays on college campuses means less binge drinking, more studying, better grades, smarter future adults. Losing thousands of college players and hundreds of pro players might produce a few more doctors or engineers. Plus, talented coaches and general managers would gravitate toward management positions in American industry. Heck, just getting rid of fantasy football probably saves American companies hundreds of millions of dollars annually. Other losers include anything that depends heavily on football to be financially viable, including the highly subsidized non-revenue collegiate sports. No more air travel for the field hockey teams or golf squads. Furthermore, many prominent universities would lose their main claim to fame. Alabama and LSU produce a large amount of revenue and notoriety from football without much in the way of first-rate academics to back it up. Schools would have to compete more on academics to be nationally prominent, which would again boost American education. One of the biggest winners would be basketball. To the extent that fans replace football with another sport (instead of meth or oxy), high-octane basketball is the natural substitute. On the pro level, the season can stretch out leisurely, ticket prices rise, ratings rise, maybe the league expands (more great athletes in the pool now), and some of the centers and power forwards will have more bulk. At the college level, March Madness becomes the only game in town. Another winner would be track and field. Future Rob Gronkowskis in the decathlon? Future Jerome Simpsons in the high jump? World records would fall at a rapid pace. This outcome may sound ridiculous, but the collapse of football is more likely than you might think. If recent history has shown anything, it is that observers cannot easily imagine the big changes in advance. Very few people were predicting the collapse of the Soviet Union, the reunification of Germany, or the rise of China as an economic power. Once you start thinking through how the status quo might unravel, a sports universe without the NFL at its center no longer seems absurd. So … Tennis, anyone?
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7559458/cte-concussion-crisis-economic-look-end-football
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I saw this article when it was posted on ESPN a few weeks back. I labeled it complete horse shit. The NFL continues to grow at fantastic speeds to be one of the largest and most financially powerful organisations on earth. Quote:In the first half of the 20th century, the three big sports were baseball, boxing, and horse racing, and today only one of those is still a marquee attraction. And this point is absurd because Basketball and American Football didn't exist for much of the first half of the 20th century. I'm just concerned about the precedent that this will set for the NFL if the judge finds in favour of the Duerson family.
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afromanGT wrote:I saw this article when it was posted on ESPN a few weeks back. I labeled it complete horse shit. The NFL continues to grow at fantastic speeds to be one of the largest and most financially powerful organisations on earth. Quote:In the first half of the 20th century, the three big sports were baseball, boxing, and horse racing, and today only one of those is still a marquee attraction. And this point is absurd because Basketball and American Football didn't exist for much of the first half of the 20th century. I'm just concerned about the precedent that this will set for the NFL if the judge finds in favour of the Duerson family. Don't forget 2 things that are uniquely American, NFL and litigation. Everything in the article is concievable IMO. If the judge does find in favour of the Duerson family, that could set off a chain reaction leading to exactly what the article is talking about. Personally, I reckon it could all be headed off by a few rule changes. Like, a player isn't 'down' unless he's held down, like rugby league. To me, this would stop players launching themselves at eachother because currently a player only needs to be knocked off his feet. The need for proper tackling technique would be returned. So what was the demise of boxing Afro? You could make a case that too many champions taking too many hits to the head didn;t help.
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Yeah, that was my main concern is the precedent that the judge could set in finding against the NFL. I'd be really concerned if a judge did find against the NFL when it's clearly a high contact sport where injuries are considered 'part of the game'.
It shits me to tears that you've got guys like Duerson whose family are blaming head injuries on him killing himself (which would be fucking hard to prove, period) and on the other side of the coin you've got beasts like Urlacher and Matthews who have publicly admitted that they've attempted to hide concussions to keep playing.
As for making it that a player must be tackled to the ground, you'd see a sharp increase in career ending knee-injuries and pro-bowl type scoreboards.
I would blame the demise of boxing on a combination of social stigma and the attitude of competitors. People like David Haye would have been laughed out of town 50 years ago.
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afromanGT wrote:As for making it that a player must be tackled to the ground, you'd see a sharp increase in career ending knee-injuries and pro-bowl type scoreboards. It's the same rule as league and union and I don't believe they have higher incidence of knee injuries than the NFL currently does. The current rule encourages the collision over technique. Having said that, I've read that while the skill position players are at risk of heavy collision that leads to concussion, it's the contstant hitting endured by lineman over time leads to more significant problems.
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The current tackling ethos is all about stopping forward progress at all costs. Hit em as hard as you have to. There is still a very clear technique to this for back-fielders, not so much for LB's and linesmen filling gaps to stop the run.
But yeah, it's the linesmen who have the constant head hits. Safeties are the ones getting the REALLY big ones. MLB's and Safeties are the two positions who experience the most concussions according to the NFL's report last season.
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NFL Downunder wrote:NFL Reveals Saints’ “Bounty” System In Play Under Gregg Williams After a lengthy investigation that began in 2010 the NFL has revealed that previous New Orleans Defensive Coordinator Gregg Williams and numerous players during the 2009, 2010 and 2011 seasons maintained what is now being called a “bounty” system where defensive players were rewarded in cash for deliberately attempting to hurt an opposition player during the game. Violating the NFL’s “Bounty Rule”.
The rewards were scaled up in relation to how severe the hit was and whether or not the opposition player had to be taken off the field.
A memo with the findings have since been distributed to the NFL teams and the NFL itself has not yet determined how the New Orleans Saints or Gregg Williams (now the Defensive Coordinator for the Saint Louis Rams) will be punished.
Roger Goodell in the memo made the nature of the allegations clear, saying “The payments here are particularly troubling because they involved not just payments for ‘performance,’ but also for injuring opposing players.”
Gregg Williams has since released a statement, via his new team, apologizing for his role in the system.
It has also been revealed by former Washington Redskins Defensive End Phillip Daniels that during Williams’ time in Washington (2004-7) he ran a similar scheme.
Whether or not the Redskins shall share punishment with the Saints remains to be seen.
The NFLPA is reviewing the findings and is yet to issue a statement, regardless of how exactly the union treats the findings this revelation flies in the face of their previous insistence on player safety as a primary motivator during last year’s collective bargaining agreements.
How seriously should the NFL and owners take their views on player safety when their own members attempt to injure one another for a cash reward outside the rules of the game? Edited by afromanGT: 3/3/2012 04:43:13 PM
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Colts release Manning http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7656028/indianapolis-colts-peyton-manning-part-ways-14-seasonsCue the 'where will he go?' hoopla to dominate the off season. FWIW, I reckon it'll be one of SF, Washington or Tennessee.
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Washington for me. Harbaugh has indicated he'll be sticking with Alex Smith. Improved last year, and he was immense vs the Saints in the playoffs. Wll be interesting to see if he can improve further.
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Benjo wrote:Washington for me. Harbaugh has indicated he'll be sticking with Alex Smith. Improved last year, and he was immense vs the Saints in the playoffs. Wll be interesting to see if he can improve further. I think that just how close SF is to being a contender is what makes them a likely destination for Manning. He could be their missing piece.
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He wont come to Tennessee. Locker is our future and he is learning off Hasselbeck.
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Miami. Ex Colts OC is there
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Niners already signed Alex Smith to a two year contract extension. Miami will have a preference for Matt Flynn since their HC was his old OC. Jets are sticking it out with the Holmes/Sanchez combination.
Smart money is on the Seahawks or the Redskins.
The Seahawks have just signed Marshawn Lynch to a new 4 year contract and having someone who can actually hit Doug Baldwin and the explosive Golden Tate more efficiently would be an ideal investment. Those combinations alone would push them into the play-offs in what is a borderline mediocre NFC West.
The Redskins have little to lose by offering Manning a big contract. Rex Grossman just god awful and won't be back net year, leaving them with John Beck and Jonathan Crompton. Not the ideal option there. The problem is there's no point in them throwing big money at Manning when most of his potential support crew (Stallworth and Hightower off the top of my head) are UFA this season.
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Shaker wrote:He wont come to Tennessee. Locker is our future and he is learning off Hasselbeck. Learning off Hasselbeck? :lol: How to use Regain? Remember Manning was a star at University of Tennessee. It'd be a homecoming of sorts. And Locker, seriously? afromanGT wrote:Niners already signed Alex Smith to a two year contract extension. Miami will have a preference for Matt Flynn since their HC was his old OC. Jets are sticking it out with the Holmes/Sanchez combination.
Smart money is on the Seahawks or the Redskins. Redskins are still my top pick. But I still reckon Smith just isn't convincing enough that the Niners wouldn't have a serious look at Manning. As for Miami, logic says Philbin would go after Flynn, but his bosses have made enough rash decisions over the last few years that making a splash with Manning could be on the cards. Of course, being Miami, it's bound to backfire.
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f1worldchamp wrote:afromanGT wrote:Niners already signed Alex Smith to a two year contract extension. Miami will have a preference for Matt Flynn since their HC was his old OC. Jets are sticking it out with the Holmes/Sanchez combination.
Smart money is on the Seahawks or the Redskins. Redskins are still my top pick. But I still reckon Smith just isn't convincing enough that the Niners wouldn't have a serious look at Manning. As for Miami, logic says Philbin would go after Flynn, but his bosses have made enough rash decisions over the last few years that making a splash with Manning could be on the cards. Of course, being Miami, it's bound to backfire. Smith isn't convincing. One season isn't enough to build a franchise off after three dud seasons. But that said, they wouldn't offer him a 2-year 12m contract + performance incentives if they're going to use him as a back-up, are they? The thing with Flynn is that Philbin is the only coach out there who really knows him. There aren't a lot of other possible teams for him to land at. Perhaps at Denver as a 'throwing' option, but Tebow is working on his action so that seems superfluous. Redskins would jump at anyone who isn't John Beck. It depends on who's able to trade-up with the Rams in the draft to get RG3. The Seahawks are too far down the draft to get a top QB, they can't settle for their current stocks. Which is why I think they'll throw the kitchen sink at Manning.
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Fuck Peyton. I want Mario Williams. We are more lacking at DE than QB.
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Shaker wrote:Fuck Peyton. I want Mario Williams. We are more lacking at DE than QB. Titans need to bulk up their whole D...but this really isn't the year for it unless you're willing to spend big in the free agent market. But then you could have Freeney and Williams if you ARE willing to spend big. I'm still stunned that Redskins traded 2011, 2012 and 2013 first round picks to get pick 2 this year. That's mind-boggling that they can look at their team and go "we'd be in the play-offs and don't need to improve further as long as we've got a QB"... And part of me is expecting the Colts to really fuck things up and pick RG3 with Pick 1.
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afromanGT wrote:I'm still stunned that Redskins traded 2011, 2012 and 2013 first round picks to get pick 2 this year. That's mind-boggling that they can look at their team and go "we'd be in the play-offs and don't need to improve further as long as we've got a QB"...
And part of me is expecting the Colts to really fuck things up and pick RG3 with Pick 1. They are paying a massive price. Even if they get RG3 (or Luck), they can't provide him with first round quality help for 3 years? Yikes. Having said that, if either have the career they are supposed to, the Redskins have the franchise QB they need for years to come. Edited by f1worldchamp: 11/3/2012 11:40:14 AM
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Well, they gave them the 2012 first and second round picks, the 2013 first round pick and the 2014 first round pick. So they'll be crippled for three years for rookies, it's a big price to pay. It's like the ultimate kick in the balls for Redskins fans. "YES! The team is showing ambition! And putting all their eggs in the one basket."
It's all well and good for Redskins to have the 'franchise QB' that they're looking for. But if Dante Stallwell and Tim Hightower leave on FA he's going to have no support from the offence around him.
The defence faces losing Landry, which will leave them with nobody but Orakpo to make the big plays. So either Redskins are going to have to get very busy in the free-agent market (they've got the dosh to throw at Williams, Wells, V-Jack, etc) or they're fucked.
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If Washington have another shit season, and Shanahan gets the boot, how fucked is the next Head Coach with no 1st rounders for the next 3 years.
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Shaker wrote:If Washington have another shit season, and Shanahan gets the boot, how fucked is the next Head Coach with no 1st rounders for the next 3 years. I would think that the powers that be ok-ing this trade would be a long-term commitment to Shanahan (at least until 2013). But really, he's still trading off his 'bowl XXXII and XXXIII wins, even there he came along into a team with a lot of young talented players and players hitting their prime and then dismantled the team over the course of a decade.
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People that support the Packers should be shot. Biggest fanboys
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All Night Dwight wrote:People that support the Packers should be shot. Biggest fanboys :lol: :lol: :lol: ](*,) Packers have some of the most passionate and hardcore fans in the league. And I wouldn't call them an upper-market team tbh. If I wasn't a Patriots fan, I'd probably be a Packers fan. And before you hit me with all the "Oh, you're just a Patriots bandwagoner", it's true that I did decide to follow them following Family Guy, but the difference between me and a lot of glory-hunter's is that i know all the players, I know who the stars are, where we need improvement, why we lost the superbowl and I actually watch games of other teams. As mucch as I hate to admit it, the Patriots have more fanboys than any other team in the league.
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All Night Dwight wrote:People that support the Packers should be shot. Biggest fanboys #-o
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How did everyone else end up supporting their teams?
For me, the first ever NFL game i saw was the Superbowl in 00. Suppose i could have ended up a Rams fan but Titans had a good ring to it.
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See above post. But when i went to america a couple of years back, I did buy a Patriots shirt with Vrabel on the back, that kinda consolidated my support of the team.
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Shaker wrote:How did everyone else end up supporting their teams? When I was a kid there was no NFL on TV or in the news, I only saw references to it in movies or US sitcoms etc. When I found books about American football in the library they were usually old, written when the Packers were the best team, so I followed the Packers. Plus Vince Lomabrdi was Italian. When the ABC started showing NFL late night with Don Lane, I still followed the Packers, even though they were crap. :d Funnily enough, when they had their 1996 Superbowl season, I didn't see any games cause fckin Channel 9 had taken the rights from the ABC, and buried the highlights show at 3am.:x
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This is for Shaker :d ESPN wrote:Among the coaches Peyton Manning plans to personally meet with during the next three days are Joe Philbin of the Miami Dolphins and Mike Munchak of the Tennessee Titans, according to sources. His meeting with Munchak is expected to take place no later than Wednesday. Munchak also will be joined by a select few Titans offensive staff assistants. Munchak, a Hall of Fame guard, was a teammate of Manning's father, Archie, during the 1982 and 1983 seasons with the Houston Oilers. Manning also starred at the University of Tennessee, leading to his first name becoming a popular choice for newborns in the state. His wife is from Memphis, and Manning already knows the Titans' facility a bit, having practiced against Tennessee a few years ago when the Colts came to town for some joint practices. "I want Manning," Titans owner Bub Adams told The Tennessean on Sunday. "I'd love to see him in Titan blue after watching him so many years with the Colts. ... I want him. I am ready to do what it takes to get him aboard, and I think he'd be the guy to get us into the playoffs." http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7677247/miami-dolphins-tennessee-titans-talk-peyton-manning-sources-say
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It would be interesting, but if i had the choice of one big player on Free Agency, it would be Mario Williams.
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Shaker wrote:It would be interesting, but if i had the choice of one big player on Free Agency, it would be Mario Williams. Tbh, I think Mario Williams will be more sought after than Peyton. Manning might be the star player with the big name, but Williams can benefit a lot more teams. I started supporting the Packers after watching the NFL for a couple of years and researching the way the club was run and the community environment promoted by the team, not to mention their style of play from the 09 season onwards has been impressive and great to watch.
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Cortland Finnigan to the Rams, 5yr 50M contract.
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Brandon Marshall to the Bears for 2 3rd round draft picks. Why would Miami offload their best receiver when trying to lure Manning?
Vincent Jackson to the Buccaneers for 5years 55 mill. :shock:
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Also Reggie Wayne signs 3yr deal with Colts.
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Shaker wrote:Cortland Finnigan to the Rams, 5yr 50M contract. I support the rams happy with this. Hope we stay injury free at CB this season
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f1worldchamp wrote:Brandon Marshall to the Bears for 2 3rd round draft picks. Why would Miami offload their best receiver when trying to lure Manning?
Vincent Jackson to the Buccaneers for 5years 55 mill. :shock: Good pickup by Chicago. Giving Cutler another target to hit, and a talented one at that. I was hoping we'd make a big money play for Jackson. Best WR free agent for me. Good signing for Tampa Bay.
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Garcon joins the redskins on a 3 year contract.
The Bears are absolutely fucking laughing at the deal for Marshall. That's comic gold from the Dolphins, what the fuck is wrong with them?
Bit surprised to see V-Jax going to the Bucs, but maybe we'll see Freeman step it up again next season.
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Jackson's arrival will free up some of the pressure on Arrelious Benn as well. Good young prospect for the Bucs.
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The bucs need to make sure they hang on to Blount. Get a couple of decent OT's in and he'll mean business.
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Kyle Orton has joined Dallas on a 3 year deal.
Robert Meachem has joined the Chargers for 4 years.
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I LOL'd at this Facebook post by NFL Downunder" Quote:(In Transformers voice) My name is Megatron. I just signed 8 yr, $132 mil contract extension w/ 60 mil guaranteed. I am now the highest paid receiver in the NFL. Bow down & worship my god-like physical gifts & bank account.
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Lot of money...but he's worth it. Top 5 WR for me.
Peyton Hillis is now a Chief, and Chad Henne has moved to Jacksonville.
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That deal is ALL KINDS of fucked up. The Lions salary cap is going to be fucked if they have to spend big to hang on to guys like Stafford and Suh.
John Carlson has been signed by the Vikings to a 4 year 20m contract. Looks like Shiancoe is leaving then.
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Manning to be a Titan in next 24hours. You heard it here!
Mario Williams > Bills = 6yr/100M Steve Hutchinson > Titans = 3yr/16M
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We lost Scott Wells to the Rams. Shattered as. One of the best Centers in the league. And I know McCarthy is just going to draft a replacement. Big blow.
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I know that the Packers just don't go nuts in free agency and their method seems to work, but it sure is frustrating as a fan to watch all these good players moving and not hearing a peep from Green Bay. Sure was some defensive free agents we could have used.
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afromanGT wrote:We lost Scott Wells to the Rams. Shattered as. One of the best Centers in the league. And I know McCarthy is just going to draft a replacement. Big blow. We were talking to him. Would have made our front line as strong as its ever been.
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Alex Smith is a Free Agent now. wow. Peyton to niners?
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Shocked to hear that. Harbaugh kept saying he had faith in Alex...looks like he's gone back on his word. Could backfire if Peyton opts to go elsewhere though.
Manningham has gone to the 49ers, and we've signed Brandon Lloyd.
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Quote:TrueTitansNews @TrueTitansNews Reply Retweeted Favorite · Open Per my team source "Peyton will hold a press conference on Tues to announce #Titans as his choice" @ClayTravisBGID confirmed the same news
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Matt Flynn to Seattle for 26mill over 3yrs. Did not see that coming. I thought he was a lock for Miami. Turns out one of the former Packers front office guys who drafted Flynn is now at Seattle.
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I expect Seattle to be much improved this year. Should compete for a wildcard spot IMO. Flynn should take some pressure of Marshawn Lynch, who is one of my favorite players to watch. The guy just keeps on running, despite getting hit by the defense.
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Benjo wrote:Lot of money...but he's worth it. Top 5 WR for me.
Peyton Hillis is now a Chief, and Chad Henne has moved to Jacksonville.
Edited by benjo: 15/3/2012 02:27:33 PM Hillis and Charles in the backfield. Potential to be very potent on the run as well with Bowe and the like. All they need is someone better than Cassel
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All over ESPN today that Manning has chosen the Broncos. F*uck knows why, except maybe the 95mill over 5 years.
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f1worldchamp wrote:All over ESPN today that Manning has chosen the Broncos. F*uck knows why, except maybe the 95mill over 5 years. bingo
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Shaker wrote:f1worldchamp wrote:All over ESPN today that Manning has chosen the Broncos. F*uck knows why, except maybe the 95mill over 5 years. bingo Still, I don't get it. He's hardly the QB of the future for Denver, he'll be over 40 at the end of this contract. Tennesee had the feel good factor, homecoming of the conquering hero and all that and he's ditched it play golf with Elway on his days off? It's very confusing to me. But at least he stays in the AFC.
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f1worldchamp wrote:Shaker wrote:f1worldchamp wrote:All over ESPN today that Manning has chosen the Broncos. F*uck knows why, except maybe the 95mill over 5 years. bingo Still, I don't get it. He's hardly the QB of the future for Denver, he'll be over 40 at the end of this contract. Tennesee had the feel good factor, homecoming of the conquering hero and all that and he's ditched it play golf with Elway on his days off? It's very confusing to me. But at least he stays in the AFC. Only things that counted against the Niners for me was the fact that they are in the NFC. No other reason, they were his best chance of another ring. Since missing out on Manning we've arranged meets with Kameron Wimbley, Jeff Saturday, Jamaal Anderson, Joel Dreessen as well as Tracy Porter this week.
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f1worldchamp wrote:I know that the Packers just don't go nuts in free agency and their method seems to work, but it sure is frustrating as a fan to watch all these good players moving and not hearing a peep from Green Bay. Sure was some defensive free agents we could have used. We really needed a DE and a SS and there was some real talent on the market in those positions this season. I know that drafting and developing your own players from the ground up has worked for us over the years, but sometimes you need to bring in some experience, especially at Strong Safety and Center. first round, second round and two third round picks will get us a top DE, a solid RB, and a DB, but a lot of teams are looking for o-liners and I think it will be a bad year to be looking for a Center. f1wc wrote:Matt Flynn to Seattle for 26mill over 3yrs. Did not see that coming. I did. I was a little surprised they didn't try harder for Manning, Flynn was the next best option and he'll make them play-off contenders, no doubt. f1wc wrote:Still, I don't get it. He's hardly the QB of the future for Denver, he'll be over 40 at the end of this contract. Tennesee had the feel good factor, homecoming of the conquering hero and all that and he's ditched it play golf with Elway on his days off? It's very confusing to me. But at least he stays in the AFC. a five year deal represents a massive risk for the Broncos and is up there with a Redskins-esque level of mismanagement. I have no idea why they offered him that kind of money, but a fit Manning would no doubt make them championship contenders, especially with the Denver D. But he's definitely got targets there in Thomas and Decker. It's a bit of a shame that Royal left, and they'll take a TE early in the draft to play underneath.
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In other news Hines Ward retired overnight, saying he couldn't bare to pull on the jersey of another team. His loyalty to the Steelers is fantastic.
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afromanGT wrote:f1wc wrote:Matt Flynn to Seattle for 26mill over 3yrs. Did not see that coming. I did. I was a little surprised they didn't try harder for Manning, Flynn was the next best option and he'll make them play-off contenders, no doubt. Not the fact that he moved, but that Seattle beat some other teams to him, especially with Philbin in Miami. I thought that was a done deal till I heard that former Packer front office dude is now in Seattle. You just can't predict Miami. I bet they trade for Tebow next. afromanGT wrote:f1wc wrote:Still, I don't get it. He's hardly the QB of the future for Denver, he'll be over 40 at the end of this contract. Tennesee had the feel good factor, homecoming of the conquering hero and all that and he's ditched it play golf with Elway on his days off? It's very confusing to me. But at least he stays in the AFC. a five year deal represents a massive risk for the Broncos and is up there with a Redskins-esque level of mismanagement. I have no idea why they offered him that kind of money, but a fit Manning would no doubt make them championship contenders. That's the rub, ain't it? Whether he's actually 'fit' or not. Everyone in Denver is going to hold their breath the first time he's sacked. In other news, I heard the Packers mentioned as possible suitors for Tebow as well. He might actually be a better running back that Grant at this point.
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f1wc wrote:Not the fact that he moved, but that Seattle beat some other teams to him, especially with Philbin in Miami. I thought that was a done deal till I heard that former Packer front office dude is now in Seattle. You just can't predict Miami. I bet they trade for Tebow next. Seattle were always having a look at him. And the second he got a chance to play for a team that doesn't trade THEIR BEST WR for two third round picks, he's going to take it. I think the Seahawks were the only team to make him an offer that wasn't laughable. Mind you, a 23m deal for a guy with two career starts is pretty hectic. f1wc wrote:That's the rub, ain't it? Whether he's actually 'fit' or not. Everyone in Denver is going to hold their breath the first time he's sacked. It'd be pretty awesome to see them open the season against someone like the Ravens, where you know they'll at least knock him down on the first drive. f1wc wrote:In other news, I heard the Packers mentioned as possible suitors for Tebow as well. He might actually be a better running back that Grant at this point. We don't have anything to offer for him though. Anything they would want for him, we'd want to keep. And as for being better than Grant - Grant at least has some lateral movement, Tebow's rush is all straight lines out of the pocket. Put him in the RB position and he's going nowhere fast.
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NFL.com wrote:Saints' Coach Peyton banned for 2012 season. The NFL announced Wednesday that New Orleans Saints coach Sean Payton will be suspended for one season without pay for his involvement in the team's bounty program. Saints general manager Mickey Loomis has been suspended for eight games. Former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams has been suspended indefinitely.
The team has also been fined $500,000 and will have to give up its second-round picks in the 2012 and 2013 NFL Drafts.
The league said in a news release that the involvement of individual players in the program is still being reviewed, and that any discipline will be announced at a future time.
In addition, Saints assistant head coach Joe Vitt has been suspended without pay for the first six games of the 2012 season.
Payton's supension is without pay. It will begin April 1 and last for the entire 2012 season. Loomis' suspension will be for the first eight games of the 2012 season.
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Tim Tebow was on the verge of joining the Jets overnight before Denver demanded that the Jets reimburse them some $5m in advanced salary paid to Tebow. The deal agreed to in principle sees Jets trading a 4th and 6th round pick for Tebow and a 7th round pick but could hit the rocks because of Denver's demands.
Benjarvis Green-Ellis has joined the Bengals (great pick-up).
Alex Smith has signed a three year contract with the Niners worth around $24m.
Ex-Patriot DE Mark Anderson has joined the Bills on a 4 year, 27.5m deal. The Bills have now signed Williams (5 sacks) and Anderson (10 sacks) when they only had 29 sacks all last season.
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afromanGT wrote:f1wc wrote:In other news, I heard the Packers mentioned as possible suitors for Tebow as well. He might actually be a better running back that Grant at this point. We don't have anything to offer for him though. Anything they would want for him, we'd want to keep. And as for being better than Grant - Grant at least has some lateral movement, Tebow's rush is all straight lines out of the pocket. Put him in the RB position and he's going nowhere fast. You might have more faith in what Grant has left to offer than I do. He's not been the same since the injury. I can't understand why Jacksonville isn't all over Tebow. If nothing else, he'd pay his own salary in jersey sales and bums on seats. Someone there is seriously deluded if they think Gabbert is the answer.
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I can understand why we aren't keeping Grant. You're right, he hasn't been the same since the injury and RB's slow down after they turn 30, but I don't see what Tebow has to offer. I don't know why we didn't make a move for Green-Ellis.
Jacksonville aren't all over Tebow because they just signed Chad Henne.
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afromanGT wrote:I can understand why we aren't keeping Grant. You're right, he hasn't been the same since the injury and RB's slow down after they turn 30, but I don't see what Tebow has to offer. I don't know why we didn't make a move for Green-Ellis.
Jacksonville aren't all over Tebow because they just signed Chad Henne. Henne, Chad. See Gabbert, Blane. Tebow is still an option if you ask me.
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I was going to support any team that Tebow was playing at, but New York Jets. eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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f1worldchamp wrote:afromanGT wrote:I can understand why we aren't keeping Grant. You're right, he hasn't been the same since the injury and RB's slow down after they turn 30, but I don't see what Tebow has to offer. I don't know why we didn't make a move for Green-Ellis.
Jacksonville aren't all over Tebow because they just signed Chad Henne. Henne, Chad. See Gabbert, Blane. Tebow is still an option if you ask me. Henne is a class above Gabbert, not that Henne is any good, but Gabbert is just that bad. Tebow would just be a waste of time. Two dud QB's is enough, let alone three. I have no idea why the Jets have made a move for Tebow after signing Sanchez to a long-term big money deal.
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afromanGT wrote:f1worldchamp wrote:afromanGT wrote:I can understand why we aren't keeping Grant. You're right, he hasn't been the same since the injury and RB's slow down after they turn 30, but I don't see what Tebow has to offer. I don't know why we didn't make a move for Green-Ellis.
Jacksonville aren't all over Tebow because they just signed Chad Henne. Henne, Chad. See Gabbert, Blane. Tebow is still an option if you ask me. Henne is a class above Gabbert, not that Henne is any good, but Gabbert is just that bad. Tebow would just be a waste of time. Two dud QB's is enough, let alone three. I have no idea why the Jets have made a move for Tebow after signing Sanchez to a long-term big money deal. The thing is Tebow isn't just another dud QB to Jacksonville, he's from there. He played he's college football there. When Denver played in Miami last year there were 30000 people there in Denver Tebow jerseys. He's the man in Jacksonville. Playing ability aside, he would sell tickets and merchandise for a struggling franchise that needs just that kind of big boost. Playing wise, I reckon Maurice Jones-Drew would love running in the option where the middle linebacker has to keep and eye on Tebow all the time. Then play Henne or Gabbert as a change of pace. It's not like Jacksonville has anything to lose. They already lay a tarp over a bunch of seats to avoid the NFL's TV blackout policy, and Tebow would make them relevant for the first time since Tom Coughlin left. Put it this way, what have they got to lose?
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Quote:Tebow would make them relevant for the first time since Tom Coughlin left. They made the play-offs twice since he left. Jus' sayin'. There's more to it than that. Honestly, Jacksonville should never have existed in the first place with the Bucs and Fins already in Florida (not to mention the Gators, Bulldogs and MU). While Tebow might get bums on seats, it's a short-term solution unless they find a way to start winning games. But with the way Jacksonville are going, they're headed for a Detroit-esque run of mediocrity.
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afromanGT wrote:Quote:Tebow would make them relevant for the first time since Tom Coughlin left. They made the play-offs twice since he left. Jus' sayin'. There's more to it than that. Honestly, Jacksonville should never have existed in the first place with the Bucs and Fins already in Florida (not to mention the Gators, Bulldogs and MU). While Tebow might get bums on seats, it's a short-term solution unless they find a way to start winning games. But with the way Jacksonville are going, they're headed for a Detroit-esque run of mediocrity. Which is exaclty why he's work the risk BTW, Florida is a hotbed of football, second only to Texas. IIRC, the whole reason the Jags exist is because that area is massive for college football and the NFL was hoping to tap into that. All the more case for them getting Tebow.
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Lol, no idea who he is going to. Schefter has said both Jags and Jets have had trades accepted.
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The deal with the Jets is complete.
You really have to applaud the Jets' management decisions; re-sign two back-up QB's, offer last season's starter a new $40m deal, and then trade two draft picks for another teams dud TE-turned-QB who would make a better RB.
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Packers pick up former Indy centre Jeff Saturday. OMG, a free agent signing!
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Shall miss Green-Ellis. Not someone who will go for massive yardage, but he's a safe RB. He hasn't fumbled ever during his time in the league.
Not sure how I feel about Woodhead being number one RB. Good backup, but he's small and does occasionally fumble. Hopefully Ridley will come along in his second season.
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Dallas Cowboys are signing some good players atm. Hopefully we turn up this season.
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f1worldchamp wrote:Packers pick up former Indy centre Jeff Saturday. OMG, a free agent signing! He's a short-term solution to developing our own product. We need a ready-made center right now while Dietrich-Smith develops, I think. The big talking point that's been missed because of Tebowmania is Curtis Lofton joining the Saints...are they going to line up 3-4 next season, or are the Saints preparing themselves for possible sanctions faced by Jonathan Vilma?
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afromanGT wrote:f1worldchamp wrote:Packers pick up former Indy centre Jeff Saturday. OMG, a free agent signing! He's a short-term solution to developing our own product. We need a ready-made center right now while Dietrich-Smith develops, I think. It wasn't who they signed, it was the fact they signed a free agent at all! I was starting to look at centre's in the draft list.
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I don't think we were never not going to sign a Center. It was in the back of my mind that we might not, but really, everyone knows that you're not going to win a superbowl with a rookie center.
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Does anyone know the tender placed on LeGarrett Blount?
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f1worldchamp wrote:afromanGT wrote:f1worldchamp wrote:Packers pick up former Indy centre Jeff Saturday. OMG, a free agent signing! He's a short-term solution to developing our own product. We need a ready-made center right now while Dietrich-Smith develops, I think. It wasn't who they signed, it was the fact they signed a free agent at all! I was starting to look at centre's in the draft list. And another one in 'bowl winning DE Hargrove. I think that's an awesome pick-up, personally. Though I hope we pick up a DE in the draft as well. The new Packer uniform is largely unchanged. Good to see they didn't mess with it too much. Loving the Nike gloves, but the Seahawks kit with the fluro trim looks awful.
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The nike gloves are boss.
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The recordings of Williams pre-game speech from the Niners game made me sick to the stomach. He should be banned for life. And Payton's suspension should be extended.
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Is it legit about hoping people do ACL's? That's fucked
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Just read it. Fucking dog of a person. Hope he gets banned for life. The worst thing was saying he wanted people to kill Frank Gore's brain.
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afromanGT wrote:The recordings of Williams pre-game speech from the Niners game made me sick to the stomach. He should be banned for life. And Payton's suspension should be extended. Should be banned for life after hearing that. Despicable.
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There's talk that bounties are far more widespread and that this is a far from isolated incident. If that's true, I'm worried about the future of the sport.
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Apparently some of the targeted players, like Favre and Warner, have said bounty's are part of the game. But that doesn't change the fact it's wrong and extremly poor sportsmanship. Stuff like that shouldn't be considered part of the game and it's pretty weak of them to say so. It also raises a few eyebrows, if they think it's normal then perhaps they have played in teams where it has occured.
Payton should get a lengthy ban for sure.
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I'll be interested to see if the League's investigations lead to any player suspensions and whether or not that will include Vilma.
Every single game they've played in the last 4 seasons (at least) should be investigated for opponent injuries as well.
If bounties are a part of the game, that directly contravenes all the work that the NFL have set about doing to prevent concussions.
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Packers Schedule is a little bit fucked. Not so much the teams and how we're playing them, but the order of the games. The first four weeks are ridiculous...and then after the bye is just 'lolwut?'
Noners Bears @Seahawks Saints @Colts @Texans @Rams Jaguars Cardinals Bye @Detroit @Giants Vikings Lions @Chicago Titans @Vikings
So many NFC games after the bye...
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Was considering buying tickets for Titans@Packers, but literally only 60 tickets left.
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Shaker wrote:Was considering buying tickets for Titans@Packers, but literally only 60 tickets left.
I'd suggest checking out stubhub and/or the NFL exchange.
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afromanGT wrote:Shaker wrote:Was considering buying tickets for Titans@Packers, but literally only 60 tickets left.
I'd suggest checking out stubhub and/or the NFL exchange. There are also companies like Roadtrips that package tickets with accomodation, if you are going to need somewhere to stay anyway.
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afromanGT wrote:Shaker wrote:Was considering buying tickets for Titans@Packers, but literally only 60 tickets left.
I'd suggest checking out stubhub and/or the NFL exchange. I use Stubhub.
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f1worldchamp wrote:afromanGT wrote:Shaker wrote:Was considering buying tickets for Titans@Packers, but literally only 60 tickets left.
I'd suggest checking out stubhub and/or the NFL exchange. There are also companies like Roadtrips that package tickets with accomodation, if you are going to need somewhere to stay anyway. That's a more expensive way to go about it though. Still dumbfounded by our opening 4 weeks.
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afromanGT wrote:f1worldchamp wrote:afromanGT wrote:Shaker wrote:Was considering buying tickets for Titans@Packers, but literally only 60 tickets left.
I'd suggest checking out stubhub and/or the NFL exchange. There are also companies like Roadtrips that package tickets with accomodation, if you are going to need somewhere to stay anyway. That's a more expensive way to go about it though. When you factor in the accomodation you'd need anyway, I thnk its a good way to do it. I know Roadtrips cause I used them when I went to Lambeau. I wouldn't have got accomodation in Green Bay otherwise, cause the place is heavily booked on game weekends. Also, they buy tix from season ticket holders to put in their packages so you are likely to get better seats.
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But is it more expensive than going about doing it on your own?
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afromanGT wrote:But is it more expensive than going about doing it on your own? There is no doing it on your own if all the accomodation is booked out by tour companies.;) At the time, they were quite resonable. The only issue we had was the first accomodation they offered was in Appleton (but a half hour drive from GB), but I complained and they got me a motel in town.
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That's the only real downside to the Pack playing in such a small town, the complete lack of accommodation and infrastructure.
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Just read today that Chad Clifton has been released. We're going to be hard up for Offensive Line players.
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afromanGT wrote:Just read today that Chad Clifton has been released. We're going to be hard up for Offensive Line players. Here's hoping it's a roster move and they resign him on a new contract. Still, he's getting long in the tooth.
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f1worldchamp wrote:afromanGT wrote:Just read today that Chad Clifton has been released. We're going to be hard up for Offensive Line players. Here's hoping it's a roster move and they resign him on a new contract. Still, he's getting long in the tooth. Although having him and Saturday at 35 and 36 respectively is quite old, that's the ideal amount of experience to help develop the likes of Sherrod, Dietrich-Smith and TJ Lang. It's easy to forget that this is only Bulaga's third season and Josh Sitton's on his 4th. Another big blow today, Nick Collins won't be back for us this season and has been released. I'm thinking that he'll be kept around on the training roster and it's a cap move. But that definitely means we'll be taking a Safety in the second round of the draft.
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afromanGT wrote:f1worldchamp wrote:afromanGT wrote:Just read today that Chad Clifton has been released. We're going to be hard up for Offensive Line players. Here's hoping it's a roster move and they resign him on a new contract. Still, he's getting long in the tooth. Although having him and Saturday at 35 and 36 respectively is quite old, that's the ideal amount of experience to help develop the likes of Sherrod, Dietrich-Smith and TJ Lang. It's easy to forget that this is only Bulaga's third season and Josh Sitton's on his 4th. Another big blow today, Nick Collins won't be back for us this season and has been released. I'm thinking that he'll be kept around on the training roster and it's a cap move. But that definitely means we'll be taking a Safety in the second round of the draft. Did his neck not heal?
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Quote:Did his neck not heal? I'm not sure. From Packers.com: Ted Thompson wrote:“From the beginning of this process, we have taken our time and sought numerous medical opinions while maintaining consistent dialogue with Nick,” “In the end, we were not comfortable clearing him to play again. As with all of our players, Nick is a member of our family and we thought of him that way as we came to this conclusion. “Nick is a part of our core, and this is a very difficult day for all Packers. Making this kind of decision is never easy, especially when it involves someone like Nick Collins. He has meant so much to the community, his teammates and the organization. He is a good man and will always be part of the Packers family.” That to me sounds like it hasn't healed the way they expected and his career is over. One can only hope we keep him around as he, Woodson and Matthews are the heart and soul of the defence. But that more or less rules out any possible moves for a RB in the early rounds of the draft.
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My draft thoughts before tomorrow
Anti-climactic. We know who is going to be 1 and 2 and that's the big 2 QB's out of the draft.
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buddha69 wrote:My draft thoughts before tomorrow
Anti-climactic. We know who is going to be 1 and 2 and that's the big 2 QB's out of the draft. Honestly, I'd love to see the Colts jump on RG3. I think that he's the better athlete and has greater potential...I think the Colts are in a better position to take advantage of that too. But it seems they're pretty set on Luck. Sadly, I think the first 6 picks are pretty much set in stone...after that I'm guessing... 1. Colts - Luck 2. Redskins - RG3 3. Vikings - Kalil 4. Browns - Richardson 5. Bucs - Claiborne 6. Rams - Blackmon 7. Jags - Martin 8. Fins - Tannehill 9. Panthers - Kuechly 10. Bills - Kirkpatrick 11. Chiefs - Damaris Johnson 12. Seahawks - Poe After that the waters get kinda muddied. and I'm not sure what a few teams (like the Bengals and Texans) are looking to address first. I'm just hoping that one of Cox, Ingram or Upshaw falls to pick 28...but I think they're all going to be snapped up by the likes of Philly, Jets and Arizona.
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There's talk of the Vikings trying to trade out of the 3 spot or taking Claiborne at 3. Richardson is a lock at 4. If Claiborne does go 3 I can see the Bucs taking Kuechly and Kalil falling to the Rams at 6. Which means Blackmon would fall to 7 at the Jags. I reckon the Bills might take Michael Floyd (WR) with the 10th pick
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I think giving Ponder more protection is more integral than bringing in a defensive back and hoping to plug a defence that's going to take years to fix. Ponder needs protection so he can develop, there's no point in having a young QB that's giving up 49 sacks a season and whose body is exhausted by week 10.
Claiborne, I don't know why people rate, and it'll take a brave man to draft him, which is why I see him falling to the Bucs.
The Rams know they need an elite WR to replace Brandon Lloyd. Protection for Bradford will wait until the second round. If Blackmon is gone by pick 6 then they'll jump on another WR like Floyd or Johnson.
I don't think the Bills will take a WR. They'll be looking at Guards to cover their running play and Defensive Backs to shut things down, they gave away the third most TD's in the air last season (Behind Vikings and Raiders).
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Been spending the night watching tape and I have to say, Shea McClellin looks like a really good option at DE for us. His main job is going to be to block the path across so Matthews can chase 'em down, and he's perfect at 6'6", a 4.60 in the 40 and good footwork mean he'll fit in right away.
Wondering whether Harrison Smith will drop down the board to our second round pick or not... :-k
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Packers take Nick Perry from USC with first pick.
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We traded up twice. Chandler Jones from Syracuse will join the pass rush and then we moved up for Dont'a Hightower from Alabama, solid pickup at OLB. Hope fully we can nab a DB in the scond round, lord knows we need one.
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I'm not sure what to make of that pick. He's strong and aggressive but he has a tendency to go missing and doesn't have the footwork to beat a strong blocking TE or FB. That's definitely something we'll have to work on, but he's definitely got potential to be our Pierre-Paul.
I'm not entirely sure why we took him with Upshaw still on the board, but when there's a guy who can do a 4.62 40 and 4.66 shuttle, he obviously has impressive direction changes. And 35 reps on the bench is more like a Nose Tackle kind of number. He out-scored the two best DE's in the comp (Allen and P-P) in the combine results, so we'll see what McCarthy can do with him. I definitely feel better about this pick than last season's selection of Sherrod.
The big talking point from the draft is 10 defeinsive line (7 DE's) and 2 LB's going in the first round. So 12 of 32 picks were on the pass rush. Not a single TE was taken in the first round.
1. Colts - Andrew Luck 2. Redskins - Robert Griffin III (from Rams) 3. Browns - Trent Richardson (from Vikings) 4. Vikings - Matt Kalil (from Browns) 5. Jaguars - Justin Blackmon (from Bucs) 6. Cowboys - Morris Claiborne (from Redskins via Rams) 7. Bucs - Mark Barron (from Jaguars) 8. Fins - Ryan Tannehill 9. Panthers - Kuechly 10. Bills - Stephon Gilmore 11. Chiefs - Dontari Poe 12. Eagles - Fletcher Cox (from Seahawks) 13. Cardinals - Michael Floyd 14. Rams - Michael Brockers (from Cowboys) 15. Seahawks - Bruce Irvin (from Eagles) 16. Jets - Quinton Coples 17. Bengals - Dre Kirkpatrick (from Raiders) 18. Chargers - Melvin Ingram 19. Bears - Shea McClellin 20. Titans - Kendall Wright 21. Patriots - Chandler Jones (from Bengals) 22. Browns - Brandon Weeden (from Falcons) 23. Lions - Riley Reiff 24. Steelers - David Castro 25. Patriots - Dont'a Hightower (from Broncos) 26. Texans - Whitney Mercilus 27. Bengals - Kevin Zieler (from saints via Patriots) 28. Packers - Nick Perry 29. Vikings - Harrison Smith (from Ravens) 30. Niners - AJ Jenkins 31. Bucs - Doug Martin (from Patriots via Broncos) 32. Giants - David Wilson
Is anyone else wondering what the FUCK the browns are doing?
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They traded later round picks to go up 1 spot to ensure they get a player they probably would have got.
Needless to say it's not a surprise the Browns do so poorly ALL THE TIME
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The only reason I can think of is if there were other teams (The Bucs and Giants) attempting to trade up with the Vikings to steal Richardson. Then it makes sense for them, but I can't imagine that the Giants would have had anything to offer. There's no way that the Browns would take a second round and pick 32 for pick 4 and the Bucs were always going to take Doug Martin, otherwise they wouldn't have traded down.
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That. Is. Brilliant.
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Shaker wrote:http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52641 Yeah, nice. Not sure what to make of the Packers trading up to get 2 second round picks. I guess it don't matter too much that we don't have another pick until late in the 4th round now that we've taken care of the D-line and picked up a CB-cum-safety, but there's 70 players off the board between our picks. Jerel Worthy is a beast and will be a great addition next to BJ Raji in a 4-3 defence and Casey Hayward is sensational at reading the ball and will come up with a LOT of picks a'la Tramon Williams. I'm stunned and confused as to why Lamar Miller and Chris Polk are still on the board. I'd take either in a heartbeat. Are they complete jerks or something?
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So the NFL have handed down their bounty penalties to the players. NFL.com wrote:New Orleans Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma has been suspended for the 2012 season, as the NFL handed down its player discipline Wednesday for the Saints' pay-for-performance "bounty" scandal.
Three other players -- Scott Fujita, Anthony Hargrove, Will Smith -- in addition to Vilma were notified that they have been suspended without pay for conduct detrimental to the NFL as a result of their leadership roles in the "bounty" program that endangered player safety over three seasons from 2009-2011.
“It is the obligation of everyone, including the players on the field, to ensure that rules designed to promote player safety, fair play, and the integrity of the game are adhered to and effectively and consistently enforced,” Commissioner Roger Goodell said in a statement. “Respect for the men that play the game starts with the way players conduct themselves with each other on the field.”
The discipline breaks down, per a league release, as follows:
• Linebacker Jonathan Vilma of the Saints is suspended without pay for the 2012 NFL season, effective immediately per league policy for season-long suspensions.
• Linebacker Scott Fujita (now with the Cleveland Browns) is suspended without pay for the first three games.
• Defensive lineman Anthony Hargrove (now with the Green Bay Packers) is suspended without pay for the first eight games.
• Will Smith of the Saints is suspended without pay for the first four games. The players have been given three days to appeal and are expected to do so. I'm just curious as to whether Ted Thompson knew that Hargrove was implicated when he signed him.
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RIP. Such sad news.
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Such a shame. That's the third former player committing suicide in 12 months. What are the chances it gets blamed on concussions?
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afromanGT wrote:Such a shame. That's the third former player committing suicide in 12 months. What are the chances it gets blamed on concussions? Even money.
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f1worldchamp wrote:afromanGT wrote:Such a shame. That's the third former player committing suicide in 12 months. What are the chances it gets blamed on concussions? Even money. Didn't even take as long as I thought: http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7886162/report-boston-university-seeking-study-junior-seau-brain
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What's to say that the depression had anything to do with sustained head injuries? Honestly, when you devote your entire life to something for 10 hours a day, 6 days a week...and then give that up and your life just kind of stalls post-football, it's easy to understand why a player would be depressed.
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"If half a sack is when two players reach the quarterback at the same time, what happens when three players get to him at the same time?"
"The offensive line coach gets fired."
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NFL's list of top 100 players has been fully revealed. Not surprised to see Rodgers at number 1. Would have had Brady ahead of Calvin Johnson at #3 personally. And Gronkowski should surely be higher than Jimmy Graham? Also wondering how Eli is lower than Roethlisberger.
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Eli is twice the QB that Roethlisberger is.
The thing with Gronkowski is that he's a physical mis-match for just about any defensive player, Graham has to work harder for his receptions and it makes him a better player as a whole.
Rodgers is rightly number 1. Peterson was too high up as was Smith, Ngata and Newton. Matthews, Rice, Wallace and Nelson were all underrated.
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Right lads, who's in for fantasy NFL this year?
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afromanGT wrote:Right lads, who's in for fantasy NFL this year? awwwwww yeah
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Is F1WC overseas again or what?
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I'll be up for it.
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I'm here! And I'm in too. If I can make one suggestion, I reckon it'd be good if everyone named their team with their 442 username in it (in some way) so we can come on here and talk smack and know who we're talking too!
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Alright...if we've got 4 guys on here, I know a couple of people who'd be in...8 team league?
Edited by afromanGT: 4/7/2012 01:31:07 PM
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Buddha will probably be keen again.
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Yeah, I spoke to Buddha last night and he's in. That leaves 3 spots...I've got one mate who wants in
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OK guys, last question....do you want an Auction or a draft? I've customised the points a little more this year... Your QB now gets .5 points per completion (this is to stop ineffective QB's from topping the rankings) and your QB will also get a 4 point bonus for throwing a 400+ yard game. D-Team sacks are worth 2 points, while a specific player's sack will be worth 4. QB hits and passes defended are worth .5 and a tackle for loss is also worth a point. League URL: http://fantasy.nfl.com/league/882690passowrd is: "poormiami" Edited by afromanGT: 4/7/2012 02:08:56 PM
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Still need another 4 guys I see. When is the draft?
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Oops, forgot about this. Will join today.
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Was scheduled as an offline draft for July 25th, but I'd like to see if we can get everyone online for an online draft. What say y'all?
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33 year old Aussie Punter Mat McBriar has joined the Eagles competing with Sophomore Chas Henry.
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Shit, will do the Fantasy comp tomorrow. Completely forgot until just then.
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Fuck...the draft was meant to be tonight if the league was full. Goddamn.
I'll have to delay things.
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Sorry guys. My bad.
That link is just coming up with an error report.
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Tried sending you the invite on facebook.
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Ok, so the fantasy league is now full. If we can get everyone online at the same time it'd be great to do an online draft instead of making the computer do it.
When are people available?
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I probably won't be available all weekend. Friday night would probably be best for me.
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Friday night sounds good.
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I'd kinda prefer an autodraft, and I can't do Friday night unless it's late.
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I've got work from 6-fuck knows, so tomorrow night is no good for me.
How does everyone feel about Monday?
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Its done.
Happy with my lineup! But i have 8 Running Backs for some reason!
QB: P.Manning, J.Cutler RB: CJ2K, T.Richardson, S.Jackson, M.Bush, M.Ingram, D.Martin, W.McGahee, I.Redman WR: D.Bryant, J.Jones, G.Little TE: J.Cook K: D.Bailey DEF: Baltimore Ravens DP: S.Witherspoon, D.Bishop
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Quote:Happy with my lineup! But i have 8 Running Backs for some reason! Probably to do with how you did the pre-draft weightings. I have the same thing. My team is fucking off-tap. This is awkward :lol: QB: A. Rodgers RB: Mendenhall/Sproles starters. Hillis, Steward and Tate subs. WR: Calvin Johnson/AJ Green/V. Jackson/Nicks starters. Decker, Britt and Wayne subs. TE: Davis K: Hartley Def: Steelers LB: Ware/Suggs. Obviously going to have to do something about Hartley but other than that, BEAST.
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Bit of a bump, great to have the pre-season up and running. My Fantasy team is: QB: Tom Brady, Robert Griffin III RB: Marshwan Lynch, Fred Jackson, CJ Spiller, Mike Tolbert, Ben-Jarvus Green-Ellis WR: Wes Welker, Victor Cruz, Steve Johnson, Antonio Brown, Malcolm Floyd, Robert Meachem TE: Gronkowski K: Gostkowski DEF: NY Jets LB: Daryl Washington, Stephen Tulloch Will probably change a few things around.
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Packers have been really disappointing in the pre-season so far. Backfield has been really stunted.
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afromanGT wrote:Packers have been really disappointing in the pre-season so far. Backfield has been really stunted. Meh... The Packers finish 1-3 or 0-4 every preseason. Edited by f1worldchamp: 21/8/2012 09:10:57 AM
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Its Locker time in Tennessee. Named starter over Hasselbeck.
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f1worldchamp wrote:afromanGT wrote:Packers have been really disappointing in the pre-season so far. Backfield has been really stunted. Meh... The Packers finish 1-3 or 0-4 every preseason. Edited by f1worldchamp: 21/8/2012 09:10:57 AM I'm not just talking about the results, but the performances as well. I'll be surprised if any of our rookies play in week 1. We're going to miss Nick Collins quite badly. Quote:Its Locker time in Tennessee. Named starter over Hasselbeck. Big call. Massive call.
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Jags have confirmed that they're playing 1 'home' game a season in London for the '13-16 seasons.
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afromanGT wrote:Jags have confirmed that they're playing 1 'home' game a season in London for the '13-16 seasons. As if that's going to save them from moving to LA.
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f1worldchamp wrote:afromanGT wrote:Jags have confirmed that they're playing 1 'home' game a season in London for the '13-16 seasons. As if that's going to save them from moving to LA. Tbh, it probably is. The whole sport in Florida is struggling. The Jags are only getting 60-70% attendance and are having ot tarp over seats to avoid media black-outs. Their owner is about to be forced to trade away their marquee RB and the fans are getting restless. While the Rams, Bucs and Browns are all weighing up the pros and cons of moving to LA, it makes good business sense for the Jags to be the team putting their hand up for London, where if a more 'permanent' move eventuates they receive rebates and salary cap concessions.
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Titans v Cardinals on ESPN in the morning.
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afromanGT wrote:f1worldchamp wrote:afromanGT wrote:Jags have confirmed that they're playing 1 'home' game a season in London for the '13-16 seasons. As if that's going to save them from moving to LA. Tbh, it probably is. The whole sport in Florida is struggling. The Jags are only getting 60-70% attendance and are having ot tarp over seats to avoid media black-outs. Their owner is about to be forced to trade away their marquee RB and the fans are getting restless. While the Rams, Bucs and Browns are all weighing up the pros and cons of moving to LA, it makes good business sense for the Jags to be the team putting their hand up for London, where if a more 'permanent' move eventuates they receive rebates and salary cap concessions. I honestly don't see the NFL having a permanent team in London ever. Jacksonville has been a shambles from the beggining. They shouldn't have been awarded a franchise (you can google the controversy over them getting it over better bids) and they just didn't manage to convert the local college fans to pro fans. Then they had the great chance to do so by signing Tebow and they didn't even try. LA Jaguars for mine.
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Hence 'permanent' being in commas. The best they'll get is a 50-50 split with games between Jacksonville and London. But that's just 4 london games a season and 4 games in Jacksonville. With less games to go to, fans will be more likely to attend and sell out games.
College football in Florida is huge, but there's just no demand for pro football there unfortunately. But I can't see the owner moving them to LA.
The Packers this morning were decent. Lots of rotation through the passing game but it was decidedly average. We do miss Finley.
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HEy guys, there's a $200 cash prize to whoever wins the tipping comp on Fiasco Apparell's facebook page. No entry fee. Get on it. Edited by afromanGT: 30/8/2012 07:20:24 PM
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Everyone excited for Thursday? Cowboys v Giants to open the season!
Can't wait for fantasy to finally get started.
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afromanGT wrote:Everyone excited for Thursday? Cowboys v Giants to open the season!
Can't wait for fantasy to finally get started. Id be more pumped if we werent playing the Patriots in Week 1.
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Someone has to play the pats week 1. Good chance to kick off the season with an upset I guess.
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afromanGT wrote:Someone has to play the pats week 1. Good chance to kick off the season with an upset I guess. Its at the LP so im holding out hope. Hope its live on One this week, Pats always get live games on FTA out here.
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This is the strongest the titans have been for a couple of years. If you're ever going to do it, it'll be now...
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afromanGT wrote:This is the strongest the titans have been for a couple of years. If you're ever going to do it, it'll be now... It's a shame we've also strengthened in the off-season as well. Pumped for Cowboys/Giants on Thursday, should be awesome My predicted standings for this year, bolded teams will be in playoffs. AFC EastPatriotsBills Jets Dolphins AFC NorthRavensBengalsSteelersBrowns AFC WestBroncosChiefs Chargers Raiders AFC SouthTexansTitans Colts Jaguars NFC EastGiantsEagles Cowboys Redskins NFC NorthPackersLionsBearsVikings NFC West49ersSeahawks Cardinals Rams NFC SouthSaintsFalcons Panthers Bucaneers AFC Championship Texans @ Patriots NFC Championship Packers @ 49ers Super Bowl 49ers to beat Texans Edited by benjo: 4/9/2012 03:57:57 PM
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49ers are going to go backwards this year, just a feeling I get. Their defence dominated last year and probably will again, but I can't see the offence mathcing last years effort. They'll have a much harder schedule to deal with.
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I can see the Seahawks topping the Niners this year.
Ravens' D will struggle without Suggs.
Falcons will make the play-offs in WC pos ahead of the Bears. Otherwise pretty much spot on.
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That shit moment when you realise Romo is a starter in one of your fantasy teams. :/
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Shaker wrote:That shit moment when you realise Romo is a starter in one of your fantasy teams. :/ Tbh, he actually had a pretty good game Thursday night. Ogletree to have a break-out year. Called it pre-season. Cowboys actually look pretty deep in the receiving corps this year and could be a chance of the Conference title with all the DB injuries the Giants are having.
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Todays Games: Chicago def. Colts 41-21 Eagles def. Browns 17-16 Lions def. Rams 27-23 Texans def. Dolphins 30-10 Falcons def. Chiefs 40-24 Vikings def. Jaguars 26-23 Redskins def. Saints 40-32 Jets def. Bills 48-28 Patriots def. Titans 34-13
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So, RG3 looks good.
Good win to start the season by the patriots. Looks like Ridley will be a more than adequate replacement for Green-Ellis.
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Peyton Manning still has it.
Chris Johnson, on the other hand...I don't even know how you can be an NFL player and come up with stas like that.
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Benjo wrote:Peyton Manning still has it.
Chris Johnson, on the other hand...I don't even know how you can be an NFL player and come up with stas like that. Nothing more frustrating than handing someone alot of money only for him to turn to shit. He is almost uncatchable if he beats the defence but he just cant seem to get past the line of scrimmage right now!
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Shaker wrote:Benjo wrote:Peyton Manning still has it.
Chris Johnson, on the other hand...I don't even know how you can be an NFL player and come up with stas like that. Nothing more frustrating than handing someone alot of money only for him to turn to shit. He is almost uncatchable if he beats the defence but he just cant seem to get past the line of scrimmage right now! 11 carries for just 4 yards is a disgusting return for someone on his wages.
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Shaker wrote:Benjo wrote:Peyton Manning still has it.
Chris Johnson, on the other hand...I don't even know how you can be an NFL player and come up with stas like that. Nothing more frustrating than handing someone alot of money only for him to turn to shit. He is almost uncatchable if he beats the defence but he just cant seem to get past the line of scrimmage right now! How much of that is down to him and how much is down to his blockers missing their assignments though? Expect Titans to use their first two picks in next years draft on O-liners. Nothing more frustrating than watching the Packers Offence turn to shit though. They really should have done better against the Niners. They haven't been the same since Jennings got injured. Hopefully they get their sharpness back against the Bears. Lots of teams are covering deep against us and challenging us to throw underneath. I'd like to see Benson dropped in preference to Alex Green too.
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Packers beat the Bears 23-10. Packers had 7 sacks, 4 interceptions. Motherfucking Malicious.
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afromanGT wrote:Packers beat the Bears 23-10. Packers had 7 sacks, 4 interceptions. Motherfucking Malicious. Especially when you have their defence on your fantasy team. :p One this I hate about fantasy, I got Brandon Marshall and I was actually upset when he dropped that ball in the endzone. #-o
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Fuck, forgot to change my lineup in time. Ah well.
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f1worldchamp wrote:afromanGT wrote:Packers beat the Bears 23-10. Packers had 7 sacks, 4 interceptions. Motherfucking Malicious. Especially when you have their defence on your fantasy team. :p One this I hate about fantasy, I got Brandon Marshall and I was actually upset when he dropped that ball in the endzone. #-o Packers D is the only reason you're still in our tie :lol: Hopefully Sanchez reverts to his usual self so I get big points from the Steelers D. Mostly, I think our tie probably hinges on how Megatron plays. I've got Marshall in my other league...so I was a bit torn on that one :lol: I settled on being stoked that he had a shocker after all the trash he was talking with Jay Cutler this week. I loved the way after the game a reporter asked Cutler "Did you ever envision tonight would go this badly?" and he responded "Yeah, I dream of throwing 4 picks and being sacked 7 times." :lol: ask a silly question... Quote:Fuck, forgot to change my lineup in time. Ah well. You can move players from the subs to starters right up until the start of their match, you jsut can't Add/drop players after the start of the match day.
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Some HUGE games this morning.
Gostkowski misses what would have been the game-winning field goal as the Pats go down to the Cards.
The Panthers steamroll the Saints in another comedy-of-errors performance from New Orleans.
Ben Tate helps the Texans steamroll the Jags with 2 TD's in a stellar running performance.
Buffalo and the Bengals blitz the chiefs and browns respectively, 3 sacks and a pick for Dqwell Jackson a shining light for the Browns.
And Josh Freeman's interception with 18 seconds left on the clock has allowed the Giants to pile 25 points on in the 4th quarter to steamroll home over the Bucs wiht Manning throwing for 510 yards (199 to Hakeem Nicks).
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Poor Gost. He was the reason we were in the game in the first place. Our offense was poor...and Hernandez went down early and looks like he could be gone for a while :( Chandler Jones however, was brilliant in the pass rush. One for the future.
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Didn't help us at all a couple of big referee calls went against us. We got called for a false start on 4th and short when lining up for a field goal, yet the replays showed no-one on our side moved, and the defense should have been called offside. Then, late in the game, Woodhead had a a touchdown run ruled out after a debateable holding call on Gronkowski.
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Nah, that holding call was legit. And that 4th and short was on or around the 10 yard line, so with the 10 yard penalty Gostkowski's kick got a whole lot easier.
Texans @ Broncos and Pats @ Ravens...some big games this week. Packers have to get their passing game back to its best this week against the Seahawks secondary. And we get to see whether the Lions' gamble on Mike Leshoure was worth it.
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FUCK.
Lost the game in the 4th quarter. Very disappointing.
In other news, my tipping went to shit this week.
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Total chaos with the Seattle - Packers game. Last play of the game, total fuck up by the referees to award that TD. Not sure what they're seeing.
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It was bad enough that Heyward-Bey was hospitalised by the refs' inability to protect the player. But now it's cost the Packers the win. Absolutely fucking disgusting. The NFL have turned this season into a complete joke. Goodell has GOT TO GO!
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The NFL have surely got to get a deal done this week. We can't have another week like that. The Patriots/Ravens game last night was ruined by the officials, missed some obvious calls on both teams.
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Not to mention the 2 cock-ups in the Lions game. I mean, first of all...how the fuck do you make the same call but enforce different penalties? It was bad enough ruling "half the distance to the goal" for roughing the passer in the second half...but to then rule "15 yard penalty" and walk out 27 yards in OT...are you kidding?
And then there's the ref IN THE END ZONE not throwing a flag and ejecting Mundy for that hit on Heyward-Bey. Dumbfounded.
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Just turned on ESPN. It's like someone has died. All they're talking about is that awful call.
The worst thing about it is the fact the video refs aren't replacement refs at all.
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It wasn't the video ref upstairs. They went over to the booth to review it. So the call WAS made by the on-field officials.
I wonder if the Packers have any recourse to challenge the result...because that was atrocious and if it costs us a play-off spot that's just destroyed the integrity of this season entirely.
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NFL.com wrote:The NFL and NFLRA are pleased to announce that they have reached an agreement tonight on an eight-year collective bargaining agreement, subject to ratification by the NFLRA. “Our officials will be back on the field starting tomorrow night,” Commissioner Roger Goodell said. “We appreciate the commitment of the NFLRA in working through the issues to reach this important agreement.” “Our Board of Directors has unanimously approved taking this proposed CBA to the membership for a ratification vote,” said Scott Green, president of the NFLRA. “We are glad to be getting back on the field for this week’s games.”
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I feel a bit sorry for the replacement refs, they were doing the best they could...but jesus, some of the calls they made were ridiculous.
I'll never complain about another ref this season :lol:
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If you're not up to the job, you don't do it. That's why I'm not a nascar driver.
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Indianapolis Colts head coach Chuck Pagano has been diagnosed with Leukemia.
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Brady vs Peyton tomorrow. Keen.
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Some big matches this week.
The Houstons looking to replicate the niners obliteration of the Jets. The Packers looking to back up from last week and get the monkey off their back. The Steelers and Eagles, two teams with assorted problems looking to keep themselves in the play-off hunt.
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afromanGT wrote:Some big matches this week.
The Houstons looking to replicate the niners obliteration of the Jets. The Packers looking to back up from last week and get the monkey off their back. The Steelers and Eagles, two teams with assorted problems looking to keep themselves in the play-off hunt. Houston will slaughter the Jets. The Jets are going to be horrible this season. Packers should win and hit some form. And the Steelers should win. The Eagles turn the ball over too much.
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Jets are going to tank it and go for the #1 pick.
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Packers have the Colts at 3rd and 13, Nick Perry sacks Luck and his helmet bounces off Lucks' chest plate and into Luck's helmet. Refs call roughness, 15 yards first down. Are you kidding?
How the fuck is a defender meant to sack a QB these days?
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On top of that a non-existant holding pen on Shields and reviewing a first down call after the Colts have called time out with 48 seconds on the clock, 3rd down on the 4 yard line. Fuck me, the refs did everything they could to make sure Colts won.
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Chiefs fans cheering after Matt Cassel was knocked out during the game with Baltimore. Piss poor, don't expect it from Chiefs fans either. Eric Winston was pretty vocal with what he thought of them.
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Matt Cassel has had a really poor season. Chiefs fans don't want him as their QB. They've got some talented young players both sides of the ball but finding out your QB is rubbish can be pretty tough - the fans aren't right to boo but I understand their frustration. I reckon they'll trade up to take a QB in the draft.
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How are the Jets putting up a fight against the Texans? What is this?
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FUCKS SAKE. FUCK YOU RUSSEL WILSON.
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Our running game is so inconsistent. Seattle have a good secondary, we really needed them to come through tonight to open up that avenue, but Brady had to try do it all himself.
Thank fuck Belichik has decided not to limit Welker's snaps now Hernandez is back. But he really needs to do something about these 4th quarter fadeouts. 3rd time this season we've let the other team back in when we should have slammed the door shut.
In other news, Rodgers has destroyed the Texans on SNF. 6 TD with 5 and a half minutes to go in the game.
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Benjo wrote:In other news, Rodgers has destroyed the Texans on SNF. 6 TD with 5 and a half minutes to go in the game. As a Packers fan, it's a little annoying that my joy at this performance is tempered by the fact that Afro has him in our fantasy league.
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f1worldchamp wrote:Benjo wrote:In other news, Rodgers has destroyed the Texans on SNF. 6 TD with 5 and a half minutes to go in the game. As a Packers fan, it's a little annoying that my joy at this performance is tempered by the fact that Afro has him in our fantasy league. The funniest thing is that I wasn't even number 1 pick :lol: 51.66 points coming my way and a 133 rating for Rodgers. That's the offence we know and love. Absolutely stonking performance by the Packers. I want to know where that's been all season! Randall Cobb has stepped up superbly in the slot the last couple of weeks. Brilliant to get 102 yards today, deserved a TD. And all without Benson and Raji. Delicious signs from Worthy. Meanwhile, this round has FUCKED my tips.
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So much for Peyton Manning being past it this year :lol: That was an incredible comeback by Denver.
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Worth noting that there were a few special teams cock-ups in there from the Chargers. But giving away a 24 point lead is disgusting.
What's going on in fantasy, guys? All the forumites are bottom half!
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Interesting times in Pittsburgh with Roethlisburger calling out O-co Haley, labelling his play calling "Dink and dunk".
Vilma and Suggs both up and activated off PUP this morning.
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For fucks sake. We HAVE to stop these fucking 4th quarter fadeouts. We were extremely lucky to win that one in OT.
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Benjo wrote:For fucks sake. We HAVE to stop these fucking 4th quarter fadeouts. We were extremely lucky to win that one in OT. I for one welcome the dismantling of the Patriots dynasty.:twisted: :lol:
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f1worldchamp wrote:Benjo wrote:For fucks sake. We HAVE to stop these fucking 4th quarter fadeouts. We were extremely lucky to win that one in OT. I for one welcome the dismantling of the Patriots dynasty.:twisted: :lol: We're still top in offensive points (or we were last night, not sure if we still are). But we need to start stepping on the throat of teams when we are up. we did it against the Bills, we should've done it against the Jets, Seahawks, Ravens and Cardinals. I don't think it's the end, Brady is still playing well, we still have lots of good offensive weapons. But our defense needs improvement. Big time.
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11.mvfc.11 wrote:First time watching a full live game in a while, really enjoying it, even if it's a bit sloppy. Steelers Bengals on One There were a few stars missing from that game, so it wasn't up to the level it should have been. Re: the patriots. Of COURSE you're going to struggle killing games off when you have a secondary that makes the Panthers look good, and a pass rush with two rookies leading the sack tally. Their offence might be star-studded and quality, but that defence is garbage and any half-decent QB is going to pick it apart. The funniest thing is that if Sanchez hadn't given away that safety, or better yet if there had been ANY kind of blocking on that kick return, Jets would have won :lol: This is not the Pats of old.
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Aussie Hayden Smith promoted to the Jets roster.
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Benjo wrote:Aussie Hayden Smith promoted to the Jets roster. This confused me a lot. It's basically advertising that they're going to run two-TE sets with Tim Tebow in wildcat. I don't get why you'd do it prior to the Fins game, why not wait until the Rams? Especially when your season is pretty much done and dusted anyway.
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A Packers offence missing Nelson, Jennings and Benson is almost completely toothless, struggled to a 24-15 win over Jacksonville. No Sam Shields or Charles Woodson didn't help either.
Detroid and Chicago both had come-from-behind victories in their games after trailing for much of the day. The Fins smashed the Jets, The Pats annihilated the Rams and the other games were pretty well stock standard.
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I fucking hate the Indianapolis Colts.
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Shaker wrote:I fucking hate that cockhead Andrew Luck. Fixed for austerity.
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Well, for the second year in a row, everyone's fantasy team seems to get it's shit together for one week, and it's the week they play me!
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FMD, the Cowboys are such a cringe-worthy team. So many errors. Especially on D.
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Benjo wrote:FMD, the Cowboys are such a cringe-worthy team. So many errors. Especially on D. Not surprising with Tony Romo being the heart of the team though. Shattered that I benched Marshall in one fantasy team in preference to Cobb. Glad it didn't cost me the win. Pretty happy with the Packers performance too. We need Jordy back to fitness though.
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afromanGT wrote:Packers performance too. We need Jordy back to fitness though. Packers need to bite the bullet and trade for a quality RB. Even when we won the Superbowl, it was Starks coming good at the right time that made opposition defences respect the run. Benson was never that guy and Starks and Green are unreliable. I've heard that with Carolina's season in the toilet, DeAngelo Williams might be available.
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No dice there. The trade window closed on November 1st. There was talk we were going to go for Williams or Stevan Jackson, but nothing eventuated. It would have cost us 2 draft picks anyway.
We're going to end up having to draft a WR, Safety and a RB in next year's draft. I can't see Jennings getting the big deal he wants given he missed half the season.
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One of the old users off here, azurro89 is over in america at the moment and ran into Chad Ochocinco in a bar in Miami :lol:
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These Thursday night games are a pain fantasy wise.
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f1worldchamp wrote:These Thursday night games are a pain fantasy wise. No kidding, especially when teams don't submit their injury reports until Friday normally. So if you've got a player out injured the 6-8 WR's and 3-4 RB's involved in Thursday night's game are all unavailable on the waiver.
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A morning of upsets...Fins go down to the Titans, Vikings get up over the Lions, Bengals mince the Giants and Saints edge the Falcons for their first loss of the season.
Ravens and Broncos did it in style, and Josh Freeman kept up his good form for the Bucs over the Chargers.
New England get home by the skin of their teeth against the Bills, intercepting in the end zone of the Bills with 28 seconds remaining.
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The Packers get home in a heart-stopper against the Lions. Heck of a game for the Neutral.
The Jets smashed the Rams, Redskins school the Eagles.
Matt Ryan threw three first quarter picks against the Cardinals and 5 for the game with no TD's, but the Falcons still got up. Ryan's pass rating was 40. Who'd have thought that Jacksonville would take the Texans to OT as well?!
You have to feel sorry for the Cowboys, they've got killer receivers but Romo is such a dud.
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Unbelievable, three games going to OT - Browns v Cowboys. Bucs v Panthers and Jags v Texans.
Jeeze...what a game for Andre Johnson...273 yards and a TD...and I left him on my bench.
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afromanGT wrote:You have to feel sorry for the Cowboys, they've got killer receivers but Romo is such a dud. Still had 33 fantasy points. :d Might just extend my win streak to 2!
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He only had 33 points because it went to OT. He had a 1st and goal with 1:05 remaining and got pinged for delay of game twice before they took the FG.
Did you watch the Packers game, mate? What do you make of Crosby's form?
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I haven't seen it, so I can't comment on today. It's obviously a concern, especially when he misses indoors. It's the first time in his career he's form has slipped like this, so I guess we'll se the real Mason Crosby if he can bounce back from it for not.
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He was 1 from 3 this week, after missing and getting a re-take because of Lions taking a time-out at the snap, 1 from 2 last week and 1 from 2 the week before. It's going to be costly if he doesn't get it together soon, with the weather turning.
We've got a tough trip to the Giants next week too. Hopefully Matthews, Raji and Jennings are fit.
Holy shit, look at that Pats score! 59 points!
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Chad Heen threw 4 TD's. The same Chad Henne who was staring QB for the Dolphins.
Nice to see we slaughtered the Colts. Was worried coming into that game.
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What makes that even more astounding is that he did it against the Texans.
That was a great warm-up for the Pats coming in to taking on the Jets next week.
Also while I'm thinking of it...has anyone been watching the defensive rookies this year? The quality has been immense for a draft that didn't promise much.
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Out of the Patriots, Chandler Jones has been very good and Dont'a Hightower has been promising. Trying to think of a few more from other teams.
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Chandler Jones has been pretty epic.
Casey Hayward has been huge for the packers and has 5 interceptions to his name. Trumaine Johnson has been huge for the Rams.
Claiborne has been disappointingm actually pretty much all the first round DB's have been. What I've seen of McClellin and Mercilus they've had solid years but not much else.
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Patriots learning that running up scores and playing starters late on in a blowout can cost them. Gronkowski broke his forearm on the final extra point of the game.
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TBF, it was a routine kick. Gronkowski's part of the field goal unit so he came on and did his job. Unfortunately, something went wrong and he's sidelined for 4-6 weeks. Knowing Gronk, he probably volunteered to go out there on that play.
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Why would you use Gronk instead of Hernandez in a game you've got well and truly wrapped up? Stupid call by Bill. That said, I'm thankful because I've got Benjo next week in fantasy :lol:
Better still...my other league opponent also has Gronk :lol: That's the very definition of a win.
Did anyone see Jesus in the crowd of the Ravens v Steelers game? :lol:
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afromanGT wrote:Why would you use Gronk instead of Hernandez in a game you've got well and truly wrapped up? Stupid call by Bill. That said, I'm thankful because I've got Benjo next week in fantasy :lol: Hernandez is still injured, not due back till Thanksgiving at earliest.
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Benjo wrote:afromanGT wrote:Why would you use Gronk instead of Hernandez in a game you've got well and truly wrapped up? Stupid call by Bill. That said, I'm thankful because I've got Benjo next week in fantasy :lol: Hernandez is still injured, not due back till Thanksgiving at earliest. Well fuck...they activated Shiancoe this week, why wouldn't you use him? #-o Pats deserve it.
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Nice week to have a bye, crazy week, Chad Henne playing amazing worries me and im hoping it was a 1 off because we have the Jags next week. Matt Ryan throwing 5INT yet the Falcons still win, Sanchez leading the Jets to a win, RGIII having an almost perfect game, Schaub going for 525 yards and 5TDs with 200+ going to Andre Johnson and to top it off, 3 OT games. Crazy.
And to top it off, i benched Blackmon in my ESPN league. :(
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Quote:RGIII having an almost perfect game It was a 'perfect' game. First rookie to throw a 158.3 rating. The look on Andy Reid's face after his second TD was brilliant. Jags v Texans was the first time 2 receivers went for 200+ yards too. Edited by afromanGT: 20/11/2012 12:57:27 AM
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RG3 and Luck are both good QBs already. I can see Luck winning an MVP or two down the line. Perhaps RG3 as well.
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RG3's a better QB. The only reason Luck looks as good is because he's throwing to Reggie Wayne.
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Totally disagree. Luck has no one apart from Wayne. One receiver doesn't get you to a 6-4 record. The guys surprisingly athletic as well.
Bears vs 49ers on ESPN now. Keen.
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Benjo wrote:RG3 and Luck are both good QBs already. I can see Luck winning an MVP or two down the line. Perhaps RG3 as well. Luck definitely.
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Benjo wrote:Totally disagree. Luck has no one apart from Wayne. One receiver doesn't get you to a 6-4 record. The guys surprisingly athletic as well. T.Y Hilton and Donnie Avery are solid wideouts.
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People are talking about Colin Kaepernick taking over for Alex Smith at the niners. Fuck, people need to calm down. He had one decent (but entirely un-remarkable) game. #-o
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FMD. The Jes are so crap :lol: Two plays in a row turned over and returned for touchdowns :lol:
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Benjo wrote:FMD. The Jes are so crap :lol: Two plays in a row turned over and returned for touchdowns :lol: You have to feel sorry for Jets fans, their team is always talking the talk but never walks the walk. Meanwhile, their O-line don't know their assignments (that's on the coach), the D-line don't work together well and their linebackers don't close off the edge fast enough. Their RB makes James Starks look reliable, their best WR is out injured and Kerley is useless. All they have going for them is their DB's. The team is in complete disarray, and everyone's blaming Sanchez. Are you kidding?
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afromanGT wrote:Benjo wrote:FMD. The Jes are so crap :lol: Two plays in a row turned over and returned for touchdowns :lol: You have to feel sorry for Jets fans, their team is always talking the talk but never walks the walk. Meanwhile, their O-line don't know their assignments (that's on the coach), the D-line don't work together well and their linebackers don't close off the edge fast enough. Their RB makes James Starks look reliable, their best WR is out injured and Kerley is useless. All they have going for them is their DB's. The team is in complete disarray, and everyone's blaming Sanchez. Are you kidding? I don't think Sanchez is all the problem. He's not a great QB, but he was the starter when they made two AFC championship games. He has no help on offense. Crap receiving unit and a poor O-line. The D was always going to struggle with or without Revis. Interesting Kaepernick is a starter now. Feel sorry for Alex Smith. He's not elite, but he gets the job done, takes them to an AFC title game, plays well this season...but Kaepernick has something about him. Not saying he's going to be great, but I think he has the ability to be better than Smith. Meanwhile, in sadder news, Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher has committed at the team's practice facility after killing his girlfriend. Shocking news, very sad. EDIT: Jesus. Just read he killed himself in front of Chiefs coach romeo Cronell and GM Scott Pioli. Edited by benjo: 2/12/2012 02:02:26 PM
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waggzzz2 wrote:AN NFL player with Kansas City Chiefs fatally shot his girlfriend then drove to the team's stadium and took his own life as his coaches pleaded with him not to pull the trigger. Police Captain David Lindaman told the Kansas City Star newspaper that Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher, 25 shot himself at Arrowhead Stadium on Saturday after killing his 22-year-old girlfriend following an altercation. Police spokesman Darin Snapp told reporters at the stadium that authorities had responded to a call from the residence where the woman was shot. Shortly after they received a second emergency call from the stadium, and as police were responding the second shooting took place. "When officers arrived they observed a black male who had a gun to his head and he was talking to a couple of coaches out in the parking lot," Snapp said. "As officers pulled up and began to park, that's when they heard the gunshot and it appears the individual took his own life." Police said Chiefs staff attempted to calm Belcher, who spoke with head coach Romeo Crennel and general manager Scott Pioli before shooting himself. "He had a conversation with Scott Pioli," Lindaman said. "There was no threat and it was quite friendly, from what I understand. The Chiefs' organisation had been very supportive of him and he was expressing that." Lindaman said Belcher's mother who was visiting her son, the girlfriend and their infant daughter, witnessed the shooting that led to the death of the young woman, Kasandra Perkins, who was pronounced dead at a local hospital. The Chiefs management expressed sorrow over Belcher's suicide. "The entire Chiefs family is deeply saddened by today's events, and our collective hearts are heavy with sympathy, thoughts and prayers for the families and friends affected by this unthinkable tragedy," chairman Clark Hunt said in a statement. "We sincerely appreciate the expressions of sympathy and support we have received from so many in the Kansas City and NFL communities, and ask for continued prayers for the loved ones of those impacted." Belcher, who was originally from Long Island, New York, had been with the Chiefs for four years. He joined them as an undrafted free agent out of university and worked his way into a starting position. The Chiefs said on Saturday that they would host the Carolina Panthers as scheduled on Sunday. "After discussions between the league office, Head Coach Romeo Crennel and Chiefs team captains, the Chiefs advised the NFL that it will play tomorrow's game vs the Carolina Panthers at its originally scheduled time," a statement on the team's official website said. The Panthers, who had already been advised by the league to stick to their scheduled travel plans, offered condolences to their Sunday opponents. "The Carolina Panthers are very saddened by the tragic events that have transpired today and send their thoughts and prayers to the entire Kansas City Chiefs organisation and to the family of the victim at this most difficult time," a statement issued by the Panthers said. http://www.foxsports.com.au/other-sports/nfl-player-kills-girlfriend-then-himself/story-e6frf56c-1226528215206
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Tragic story. You have to feel for his teammates that witnessed it and for his daughter. And wonder what on earth was going through his head :?
#1 pick is almost guaranteed to land in Kansas now. It'll be interesting to see how this impacts on Crennel and whether he stays in the job.
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A few talking points from this morning...
The Vikings become just the third team in 15 years to have a 200+ yard rusher and still lose a game. The Packers did well to overcome their injuries, but Ponder was woeful for much of the game.
Somehow the Lions blew it hard against the Colts got home on the final play of the game.
The Rams rolled the Niners in OT, as did the Seahawks against the Bears making the NFC North exceptionally interesting with Packers and Bears tied on 8-4.
Kansas City stood up after Jovan Belcher's suicide to score a 6 point win over the Panthers.
But the biggest talking point is Rex Ryan finally benching Sanchez for Greg McElroy to march the Jets down the field for the winning score in a 7-6 win over the Cardinals.
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Romo has hit 10-10 in this 2nd half for 3 touchdowns.
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As I typed that, the Eagles returned a punt for 98 yards to reduce the deficit to 5 points with 31 seconds to go.
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After foolishly benching Brandon Marshall in preference to thinking Andre Johnson would keep his fine form going, I'm 11 points behind in my other league after Brown's brace against the Cowboys. So now I need Lawrence Tynes to kick 11 points...and if I'd started Gostkowski I'd have those 11 points. Talk about your epic fuck-ups.
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afromanGT wrote:After foolishly benching Brandon Marshall in preference to thinking Andre Johnson would keep his fine form going, I'm 11 points behind in my other league after Brown's brace against the Cowboys. So now I need Lawrence Tynes to kick 11 points...and if I'd started Gostkowski I'd have those 11 points. Talk about your epic fuck-ups. I left my run too late it seems. Another big win this week. Last week i got 190 points and this week 154. Where was all this at the start of the season. :evil:
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Shaker wrote:afromanGT wrote:After foolishly benching Brandon Marshall in preference to thinking Andre Johnson would keep his fine form going, I'm 11 points behind in my other league after Brown's brace against the Cowboys. So now I need Lawrence Tynes to kick 11 points...and if I'd started Gostkowski I'd have those 11 points. Talk about your epic fuck-ups. I left my run too late it seems. Another big win this week. Last week i got 190 points and this week 154. Where was all this at the start of the season. :evil: That's just Manning and Richardson finally starting to click with their respective teams. If you were scoring 20 odd points less like they were earlier in the season you'd have lost today.
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Not sure how the fuck...but the Cowboys, Rams, Vikings, Chargers, Panthers and Jets all got up. And the Eagles score a TD with 0:02 left on the clock to take down the Bucs. WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?!
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Just turned on Seattle vs Arizona...Seahawks up by 55 to zip.
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NYG also knocking up 50, current 52-27 over the Saints.
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Benjo wrote:Just turned on Seattle vs Arizona...Seahawks up by 55 to zip. Cardinals were absolutely awful. Big hattrick by Marshawn Lynch there. Likewise, Wilson with 327 all-purpose yards and a hattrick for the Giants in their massive win over the Saints.
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Great performance from the Packers secondary to get up 27-20 in snowy conditions at Lambeau. Detroit got off to a two TD head start as well.
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New England get the softest PI calls I've ever seen.
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afromanGT wrote:New England get the softest PI calls I've ever seen. That last one was a poor decision. Absolutely killing the Texans atm, bracing myself for a comeback though.
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Benjo wrote:afromanGT wrote:New England get the softest PI calls I've ever seen. That last one was a poor decision. Absolutely killing the Texans atm, bracing myself for a comeback though. 26 yard penalty on a third down. It was disgusting and cost the texans 7 points. Texans secondary has been pretty average. They've gotta get JJ Watt back into the game too. Fuck I love Greg Jennings' Old Spice commercials.
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Quote:26 yard penalty on a third down. It was disgusting and cost the texans 7 points. I'd say the Texans D should shoulder some of the blame. Not so much on the wrong call, but leaving Hernandez with no one on him at the line? What the fuck were they doing?
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Benjo wrote:Quote:26 yard penalty on a third down. It was disgusting and cost the texans 7 points. I'd say the Texans D should shoulder some of the blame. Not so much on the wrong call, but leaving Hernandez with no one on him at the line? What the fuck were they doing? Brady snapped the ball just 4 seconds after the spot there. Not surprising that nobody covered him. The real mistakes you should be pointing at is the Texans TWICE going for it on 4th down, they could have 6 points on the board instead of zilch. Not to mention Schaub's decision to air it and get picked off instead of checking down to an open Foster.
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Pretty much every call is going Pats way here. There's been 2 illegal shifts and 2 blocks in the back off punts that haven't been called against Pats. Not to mention pathetic PI calls.
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Even our fumbles are going for touchdowns :lol:
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Benjo wrote:Even our fumbles are going for touchdowns :lol: Texans gave up at half time. With Brady complaining to the refs and getting the call he wanted a play later, there's no way you're going to win.
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The Eagles started with two horrible turnovers on their opening possessions and now the Bengals have blown their two possession lead purely on stupid mistakes :lol: This Bengals team looks good on their day, but they're 0-9 in their last 9 primetime games - they're not ready for play-offs.
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The Packers pile on 21 unanswered points in the second quarter to beat the bears and take the NFC North title. A strange play call in the third quarter though, a punt return fielded by cobb and they decide to throw it across the field. Made no sense and would have cost us the game if Cutler wasn't shit. Crosby again missed 2 FG's, time for him to go the way of ol' yeller.
Meanwhile, the Falcons shut out the Giants 34-0. The saints shut out the Bucs as Freeman throws four picks. Miami, Washington and Denver cruise. Another big day out for Peterson against the Rams and Houston bounce back against the Colts.
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Seattle break 50 two weeks in a row. They're definitely hitting form at the right time.
Somehow the Cardinals snap their 9-game losing streak to get up over a woeful Detroit team that threw three interceptions, Carolina do it easy over the Chargers, Oakland held Kansas scoreless.
Dallas' OT win against the Steelers makes two play-off races very interesting. The AFC North currently shapes up Ravens (9-5), Bengals (8-6), Steelers (7-7). And the NFC East is crazy as with Redskins, Giants and Cowboys ALL on 8-6.
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Awful 1st half from us gifted the 49ers the win. They were all over us in that half.
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How do you go from embarrassing the Texans last week to losing to Kaepernick this week?
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afromanGT wrote:Seattle break 50 two weeks in a row. They're definitely hitting form at the right time. They're heading for a fall. Call it football karma. You don't fake punt while up by 30 and get away with it.
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afromanGT wrote:How do you go from embarrassing the Texans last week to losing to Kaepernick this week? Kaepernick was excellent. Made a lot of good throws and only made one big mistake, when he threw a long ball over the top into double coverage that was picked off in the endzone. Their D was immense in the first half. Would've helped if Ridley and Vereen actually knew how to HOLD ONTO THE DAMN BALL ](*,) Two mistakes from Hernandez and Welker lead to interceptions as well. Some positives though. Woodhead was his usual hard working self and had a great game. Lloyd made several amazing ctches and had 190 receiving yards. Brady was excellent again, the first interception he did overthrow it slightly but it still could've been avoided and the second one wasn't his fault. He carried the team in that second half, i think he drove 4 consecutive touchdown drives unanswered. Talib had another good game. Wilfork was a beast once again. Confident we can still get to the Superbowl again. Just need to avoid a 1st half like that again.
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If you want to beat the Pats all you have to do is take full advantage of your slot receivers, take Talib out of the game and make it a shoot-out. Pats don't have the secondary to stop you.
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Big weekend coming up, Calvin Johnson goes into the Lions clash with Atlanta on 1667 yards - 181 yards shy of Jerry Rice's single-season record, and Adrian Peterson is on 1812 yards, 293 yards shy of Eric Dickerson's record ahead of the Vikings' clash with Houston. This week will be a determining factor if the records are going to fall. Aldon Smith and JJ Watt are both 3 sacks away from Michael Strahan's record.
Our fantasy league is wrapping up too. Mean Machine (Benjo) takes on Afroman FC (me) for the title while Supple Dumpers (Buddha) takes on Sack Exchange (Azzurro89) for third place honours. Shakers and F1FC are taking on a couple of my mates for 5th and 7th in the consolation games.
Good luck everyone. Except Benjo :lol:
Huge week for the actual play-offs too...With the Seahawks sitting 9-5 and holding the first wildcard spot, the Redskins, Cowboys, Giants, Bears and Vikings are all level on 8-6 and vying for the final wildcard place (though the Seahawks should be 8-6 as well...[-x [-( )
Hoepfully the Seahawks can get up this week so the Packers can move into the #2 seed in the NFC with a win.
Last week was all about battle-for-the-playoffs, this week it's battle-for-the-draft-picks :lol: Oakland v Carolina, Buffalo v Miami, San Diego v Jets, Rams v Bucs :lol:
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The Packers definitely highlighted their superbowl credentials this morning with a 48 point shellacking of the Titans.
The Pats did it hard against the Jags, The Vikings got up on the road against the Texans (they look like they're in trouble), Bengals broke their 9-game losing streak to division rivals with a late FG. Other than that it was business as usual for games today.
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Seahawks absolutely killing the 49ers at the moment. 21-3 midway through the 2nd quarter.
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Massive hit on Vernon Davis early on from Kim Chancellor pretty much ended any hopes of a Niners fightback. That blocked FG was a mean effort too.
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Quote: Why Rising Ticket Prices and Technology Lead NFL Fans to Stay Home Dec 23, 2012 4:45 AM EST High ticket prices, bigger televisions, and expanded free coverage spur NFL fans to watch at home instead of brave the elements at the stadium. When the cameras pan the domes, parks, fields, and other arenas during NFL games this weekend, viewers are likely to notice a common feature: empty seats. In some ways, professional football is more popular than ever. The average football television rating is up 15 percent from five seasons ago. But in contrast, live game attendance has steadily dropped since 2007. Despite a 1 percent increase this year, 4.5 percent fewer fans are attending games in the current season than they did five years ago. With each passing year, it seems, more die-hard fans are choosing to forgo the intimacy and atmosphere of stadium seats for the ease, comfort, and low cost of their living room TVs. “We’re in essence competing with ourselves,” says NFL spokesperson Brian McCarthy. “Our fans are still going to stadiums, but the majority of our games are still free on TV, which is different than the other sports leagues. So there’s an incredible value for being an NFL fan and it doesn’t cost the fan to watch the game over the TV.” Economists and sports buffs are at odds as to what has caused the shift from the thrill of the stadium to the comfort of a couch or bar. Some say it’s the technology that has naturally made television a better story teller for America’s new greatest pastime. “The at-home experience continues to get better. It’s really the golden age for fans,” says McCarthy. “They are watching games on their 50-inch HD monitors, they have access to NFL.com … there is NFL Redzone, where you can watch every single score in real time and you have access to food and other comforts at home.” Others speculate the reason for increased television viewing is that stadiums are failing to captivate audiences and instead focusing their efforts on TV deals. After all, that’s where the majority of the money is. Consider for a moment that each team made $102.5 million from the national TV deal last year and that the NFL’s revenue from broadcasting is more than double what it made from ticket sales. In other words, smaller numbers of fans and declining sales of beer and popcorn may not put too hurt the bottom line of owners too much. Nicholas Colas, chief market strategist at technology firm ConvergeEx, says it’s the economy that has rendered tickets too expensive for the average Joe. He says a significant factor of lowered NFL attendance is that fans simply can’t afford to go to games. “If you take a family of four to a football game and you get the average seat—between the parking and making the day for the kids a good experience [with concession items] you are spending about $600, which is the price to pay for a good TV back home,” he said. According to Statista, the average NFL ticket price this season is $78.38 a 2.5 percent increase from last year. Tickets averaged only $67.11 in 2007, the year that the NFL saw record-breaking game attendance and the year the recession began. That’s a 17 percent increase in a period where incomes have generally fallen. But despite recent, declining turnout, numbers show that stadiums have done little to make games more affordable. The average price of a seat has continued to increase every year. Colas says teams try to price tickets “right to the marginal level so they don’t leave any money on the table,” but stadiums are continuing to have empty seats at games. Other sports have faced a similar dilemma with filling their arenas. In three straight baseball-playoff home games this past season, the New York Yankees drew fewer than 47,200 fans to the big stadium in the Bronx, 3,000 short of capacity. The Anaheim Angels saw an attendance drop of 14 percent, the largest in the major leagues. Consider for a moment that each team made $102.5 million from the national TV deal last year and that the NFL’s revenue from broadcasting is more than double what it made from ticket sales. Revenue from NASCAR ticket sales is also in sharp decline. According to securities fillings, earnings fell 38 percent over the past five years in the three companies that host 35 of the 38 race weekends. NASCAR’s largest track operator has also lost more than 40 percent of its ticket revenue. NASCAR racetrack companies say the economy is largely to blame and that it has began offering deals to increase attendees. “We’ve done discounts for folks, the four-packs and the six-packs—maybe food and beverage is included in the ticket,” SMI president Marcus Smith told Charlotte’s Sports Business Journal. “It’s not the model that you would look to in the short term because it has resulted in some lower admission revenue. But it’s the right thing long term for our fan base because more and more fans are able to attend and continue their tradition.” Some analysts like Colas worry that if the NFL doesn’t do similar price reductions or deals it will get to a point where the cost of attendance is too high to fill capacity. As a result, it will be difficult to raise funds to keep up stadiums. “A lot of consumers are telling me that it’s becoming a luxury good rather than a consumer treat,” said Colas of NFL tickets. “The question is: has the NFL bumped up against a price ceiling?” John Greenberg, executive editor of Team Marketing Report, argues there will always be profit to be made from NFL games, regardless of seat prices. “Every year I always wonder, ‘Where does this end? Where do ticket prices go?’ You would think there is a kind of ceiling,” he said. “But it’s the fact that there are only eight regular-season home games. So the scarcity drives up the prices. That’s why you are going to see prices stay high.” He adds that real football aficionados will never stop attending live games, despite the rising prices of seats. “Everyone likes to use the economy. I’m sure there are people who have given up season tickets because they have lost their jobs and are worried about money, but I don’t think it’s going to go dramatically in one way or another,” he said. “There’s always going to be value in seeing things live.” http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/12/23/why-rising-ticket-prices-and-technology-are-leading-nfl-fans-to-stay-home.html
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afromanGT wrote: Our fantasy league is wrapping up too. Mean Machine (Benjo) takes on Afroman FC (me) for the title while Supple Dumpers (Buddha) takes on Sack Exchange (Azzurro89) for third place honours. Shakers and F1FC are taking on a couple of my mates for 5th and 7th in the consolation games.
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Did not even check my team once. Decent
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buddha69 wrote:afromanGT wrote: Our fantasy league is wrapping up too. Mean Machine (Benjo) takes on Afroman FC (me) for the title while Supple Dumpers (Buddha) takes on Sack Exchange (Azzurro89) for third place honours. Shakers and F1FC are taking on a couple of my mates for 5th and 7th in the consolation games.
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Did not even check my team once. Decent When the fuck did you get back on the forums?:lol:
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Congrats to Afro for taking out the title, although he was lucky he wasn't facing Buddha, who clocked up almost 200 points this week. I wasn't helped by the fact Davis had to leave the game early, Cruz being very quiet, Brady throwing a couple of picks and Green-Ellis having his worst game of the year.
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Benjo wrote:Congrats to Afro for taking out the title, although he was lucky he wasn't facing Buddha, who clocked up almost 200 points this week. I wasn't helped by the fact Davis had to leave the game early, Cruz being very quiet, Brady throwing a couple of picks and Green-Ellis having his worst game of the year. Yeah...and I could have started Woodyard and Jones :lol: Quote:High ticket prices, bigger televisions, and expanded free coverage spur NFL fans to watch at home instead of brave the elements at the stadium. Some places like Denver and Green Bay continue to sell out regardless. Places like San Diego and Jacksonville on the other hand...things don't look good for them. Quote:Did not even check my team once. Decent I can see you weren't on since Aug 10th. :lol: But you've still made 7 changes to your team. You drafted pretty well.
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Ok, so at the age of 37 Jeff Saturday has been named starting centre for the NFC pro-bowl team. A week after being benched by the Packers in preference to Dietrich Smith. Go figure.
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Miami Dolphins' new logo has allegedly leaked.  I think I speak for everyone when I say "If there was a way to make a logo MORE ridiculous than a Dolphin wearing a football helmet, they've definitely found it".
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Big match this week is Washington vs Dallas for a division title, with the loser not making the playoffs. Very, very interesting game. Tipping the 'skins. Romo will keep Dallas in the game for long enough, but they'll fall short on the final drive.
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Romo's actually been playing some of the best football of his career. The fact that this has gone entirely unnoticed says a lot about his quality as a player though :lol: Redskins will have Griffin back - the Redskins staff couldn't have wished for a better end to the season, really.
I'm a bit perplexed that the Bears/Lions game is on before the Packers/Vikings game. If the Bears lose then the Vikings are going play a lot harder than they would have.
The really big game this week though is the Ravens @ Bengals. The Bengals have a superb chance to end the Ravens/Steelers long-term dominance over the division. Shaping up as one hell of a game there.
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And with Tony Romo's usual capitulation the Regular Season wraps up.
The only real surprise this week was the Falcons losing to the Bucs and a solid showing from the Panthers.
So the play-offs shape up thus:
Wildcard Games: Bengals @ Texans Colts @ Ravens Vikings @ Packers Seahawks @ Redskins
Divisional games: Lowest Seed (predicting Colts) @ Broncos Highest Seed (Predicting Texans) @ Patriots Lowest Seed (Predicting Seahawks) @ Falcons Highest Seed (Predicting Packers) @ Niners
Divisional Round: Patriots @ Broncos Seahawks @ Packers
Super Bowl: Broncos V Packers
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Ray Lewis to retire at end of season. Huge hole for the Ravens next year. One of the most passionate players I've ever seen.
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I reckon this is the Ravens' last chance to do anything for quite a while. They'll probably lose Rice at the end of the season as well and they won't be keeping Flacco after the season he's had (QB merri-go-round, what up?!) so they're going to have to turn it on here tonight.
Packers won with ease over the Vikings. They pretty much played the 4th quarter at walk-through speed yesterday.
The Bengals blew a game they really should have won, Andy Dalton needs to work on his deep ball and stop relying on AJ Green to put on yards after the catch.
EDIT: No sooner do I say that about Ray Rice and he puts down a 42 yard run.
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So the Ravens easily account for the Colts to set up a trip to Denver next week while Seattle take their first road win in the play-offs since 1984, holding out the Redskins for three quarters to take on the Falcons next week.
So next week's Divisional games are: Baltimore @ Denver Houston @ New England Packers @ Niners Seattle @ Atlanta
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Historically, the Divisional round see a very high percentage of home wins. Packers have a pretty good record against SF in the playoffs, 4-1 all time. They look like the only road team with a shot to be honest, although it depends on which Atlanta team shows up against Seattle.
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f1worldchamp wrote:Historically, the Divisional round see a very high percentage of home wins. Packers have a pretty good record against SF in the playoffs, 4-1 all time. They look like the only road team with a shot to be honest, although it depends on which Atlanta team shows up against Seattle. In the last 3 seasons, 4/12 Divisional games have been won by the road team. Atlanta didn't take the week off and have been training and preparing for a fortnight for this game. I think they'll be too much for Wilson and co defensively. The offence on the other hand... The Packers are looking good with Woodson back, and their run D this week was the best it's been in a long time. The Niners D will have J. Smith returning to their pass rush and we all know how shaky that Packers O-line can be. That said, DuJuan Harris was superb on the screen this week.
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:roll: So what exactly does 'historically' mean to you? The last 3 seasons? From 1978 through 2003, home teams in the divisional round were 76-24, or .760. Since then however, they are 18-14 (.563).
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Yeah, but the game was entirely different. The record over the last few years is more indicative. And are you really arguing with me over something that agrees with what you said? :lol:
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Not NFL but tomorrow is the BCS National Championship game between Alabama and Notre Dame. Going for Bama purely to see Jesse Williams play it big on the biggest stage, he has a big one, lock him in for the 1st round of the draft.
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The Nose Tackle depth chart in the draft is pretty strong, and demand won't be as high as it was last year for pass rushers. I'd say he'll be an early second round pick.
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Like to see him do well, but as a long time Notre Dame fan, i really hope they win it. Mmmm, just thinking, a National Championship for Notre Dame and a Superbowl for the Packers. Might end up being a great season for me!
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Notre Dame have made a huge step up this season. Why do you follow Notre Dame?
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afromanGT wrote:Notre Dame have made a huge step up this season. Why do you follow Notre Dame? Same reason I follow the Packers. When I was growing up there was little NFL on TV and no internet and stuff, so all I knew about American football came from books in the library. Some of them dated back to the 60's. And the best teams in the those books were Green Bay and Notre Dame. It was reinforced later on by seeing movies like 'Rudy' and 'Knute Rockne: All American' and reading more about the intertwined histories (Curly Lambeau was an Notre Dame alumni) I've been to Notre Dame too, we dropped into the campus on our way back to Toronto from seeing the Packers play in Green Bay. Didn't see a game, but had a walk around the campus and the stadium. Got my picture taken with Touchdown Jesus :d and holding an Aussie flag outside the football stadium. I wasn't really expecting them to beat Alabama today, but I didn't expect them to be blown out either. :cry: Here's hoping it doesn't affect their recruiting and they can build on this years success.
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IF anyone's interested in the other NCAA titles...
Poor Wisconsin lost their third Rose Bowl in three years (:lol:) 20-14 against Stanford. Florida State crushed Northern Illanois in the Orange Bowl 31-15 Louisville beat the Florida Gators in the Sugar Bowl 33-23 Oregon Ducks won their second straight bowl, beating Kansas State 35-17 in the Fiesta Bowl.
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Congrats to Afro for finishing equal top in our tipping comp. I finished 3 points behind in 4th. In hinsight, I probablshouldn'thave tried to go for a couple of upsets in the final round.
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Benjo wrote:Congrats to Afro for finishing equal top in our tipping comp. I finished 3 points behind in 4th. In hinsight, I probablshouldn'thave tried to go for a couple of upsets in the final round. Cheers bro. I was pretty stoked with my efforts this season. Disappointed I didn't get one more point though :lol: Equal first in tipping, won both my fantasy leagues. :cool:
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Shaker wrote:http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1482995-2013-nfl-mock-draft-latest-projections-after-divisional-playoffs/page/15 I wouldn't count on that. I reckon the Panthers will look to beef up their secondary with their first round pick. But they've got a lot of needs to cover with Smith getting old they're going to need a WR, an OT to better protect the read option, their entire secondary and most of the D-line need changes but they have very little cap room. With Jags looking likely to take Lotulelei with the second pick, Jesse's the next best ranked DT in the draft on many boards. He could go as high as pick 6 at Cleveland who look to beef up their defence. The Titans at pick 10 have a number of issues on their D-line and he could land there. For my money though, he's going to end up at pick 18 with Dallas - there's a good chance that they're going to end up switching to 4-3 next season so they're going to need reinforcements on the D-line.
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Sigh. Thought it would be a few weeks longer before we had to start thinking about the draft. So disappointing. Mock drafts are just that. Mel Kiper is supposed to be the godfather of the NFL draft and he still gets it wrong most of the time. Williams could easily fall to the second round, and the Packers have a bucnh of young players in the secondary, I can;t see them taking a FS with their first pick. It's their run defence that'll be a priority.
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Quote:Mock drafts are just that. Mel Kiper is supposed to be the godfather of the NFL draft and he still gets it wrong most of the time. Williams could easily fall to the second round, and the Packers have a bucnh of young players in the secondary, I can;t see them taking a FS with their first pick. It's their run defence that'll be a priority. The main reason we got taken apart by Kaepernick was because the safety couldn't get up fast enough to cover the open field when a blitz was called. KAepernick would just take off into open field. A new safety would fix this and help sure up our run defence (worth noting that we DID shut down Gore and Peterson the last two weeks). What we REALLY need is to find some more consistency an offensive line which gave up 51 sacks last season. We're going to end up with compensatory picks, I'd like to see us try and trade up for Chance Warmack which would allow us to keep Dietrich Smith at Centre. Josh Sitton let us down a lot this season.
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afromanGT wrote:The main reason we got taken apart by Kaepernick was because the safety couldn't get up fast enough to cover the open field when a blitz was called. KAepernick would just take off into open field. A new safety would fix this and help sure up our run defence (worth noting that we DID shut down Gore and Peterson the last two weeks).
What we REALLY need is to find some more consistency an offensive line which gave up 51 sacks last season. We're going to end up with compensatory picks, I'd like to see us try and trade up for Chance Warmack which would allow us to keep Dietrich Smith at Centre. Josh Sitton let us down a lot this season. True about the OL, but I don't think we'll draft a DB cause we have young guys in Burnett, Hayward, Jennings and Shields, plus James Nixon. All these guys are 25 or less and will be expected to step up. Not saying the secondary isn't a concern, but there's enough potential there that they won't use a high draft pick on a DB.
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f1worldchamp wrote:Sigh. Thought it would be a few weeks longer before we had to start thinking about the draft. So disappointing. Mock drafts are just that. Mel Kiper is supposed to be the godfather of the NFL draft and he still gets it wrong most of the time. Williams could easily fall to the second round, and the Packers have a bucnh of young players in the secondary, I can;t see them taking a FS with their first pick. It's their run defence that'll be a priority. For 28 teams, thats the focus right now. I know thats all im thinking about in terms of the Titans. I posted that because its nice to see him being rated so highly. In terms of the titans, unless all the high ranked players are gone, we will be going O-Line. Our biggest need. Be interesting to see what happens at the top, the Chiefs and Jags desperately need a Franchise QB, but of the draft stocks, i dont see any of the QBs being legit Number 1s. At the moment i have Geno going first purely on KCs need. Lotulelei going second and the Jags drafting Matt Barkley in the 2nd.
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f1worldchamp wrote:afromanGT wrote:The main reason we got taken apart by Kaepernick was because the safety couldn't get up fast enough to cover the open field when a blitz was called. KAepernick would just take off into open field. A new safety would fix this and help sure up our run defence (worth noting that we DID shut down Gore and Peterson the last two weeks).
What we REALLY need is to find some more consistency an offensive line which gave up 51 sacks last season. We're going to end up with compensatory picks, I'd like to see us try and trade up for Chance Warmack which would allow us to keep Dietrich Smith at Centre. Josh Sitton let us down a lot this season. True about the OL, but I don't think we'll draft a DB cause we have young guys in Burnett, Hayward, Jennings and Shields, plus James Nixon. All these guys are 25 or less and will be expected to step up. Not saying the secondary isn't a concern, but there's enough potential there that they won't use a high draft pick on a DB. I don't rate MD Jennings, and Macmillan is better as nickel corner than as a safety. We do need to find an intimidaing safety - Woodson doens't have long left in him - but I think we'll be looking to free agency and someone like Landry or Moore. Essentially, I agree completely, our first round pick won't be used on the secondary, we'll look for a Guard like Warmack or Cooper. That said, if we're fortunate enough to have one of the big OLB/DE's like Mingo or Ansah fall to us, we'll take them in a heartbeat. I wouldn't be surprised to see us trade up twice to get Warmack and then try to get Lacy.
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Shaker wrote:In terms of the titans, unless all the high ranked players are gone, we will be going O-Line. Our biggest need. Be interesting to see what happens at the top, the Chiefs and Jags desperately need a Franchise QB, but of the draft stocks, i dont see any of the QBs being legit Number 1s. At the moment i have Geno going first purely on KCs need. Lotulelei going second and the Jags drafting Matt Barkley in the 2nd. The Jags are the key to the draft. They've got needs all over the park. They've got two very talented WR's in Shorts and Blackmon and Gabbert hasn't stood up, but that's partly due to his O-line being the pits. They also need a pass rush, D-line and DB's. They could draft a QB but so soon after drafting Gabbert is a big gamble in a week QB class. I'd say they'll take Lotulelei or Joeckel. Obviously a lot can happen between now and April but I'm thinking it'll go something thus: 1. Kansas City - Geno Smith (QB). The Chiefs need a QB, there's no questioning that and little will change on that front in the next couple of months. Smith is the best QB in the draft. 2. Jacksonville - Star Lotulelei (DT). Jags have needs everywhere, got to start somewhere and Lotulelei is a star they can count on. 3. Oakland - Damontre Moore (DE). They're losing a lot of their edge on D and need a big man to make plays. 4. Philadelphia - Luke Joeckel (OT) The O-line was a huge thorn in their side this season, exposed for a complete lack of depth. 5. Detroit Lions - Dee Milliner (CB). The Lions defence has been struggling for years and they've finally got the chance to address that. At 6'2", Milliner is the kind of DB teams are looking for to take on the new breed of WR's. 6. Cleveland Browns - Jarvis Jones (OLB). Cleveland have some budding talents on the offensive side of the ball, now it's time to get some pressure from the other side. Someone to support D'Qwell Jackson. 7. Arizona Cardinals - Matt Barkley (QB). With Smith already landing in Kansas you've got to expect the Cardinals to take the next best QB. Even the second best QB in this draft is better than Kolb and Skelton. 8. Buffalo Bills - Alec Ogletree (ILB). They need to sure up their defence to close out games. Mario Williams can't do it all himself. 9. New York Jets - Barkevious Mingo (DE). They've got needs galore on offence, but Rex Ryan always goes for a defensive player with his first pick. 10. Tennessee Titans - Eric Fisher (OT). They (like a lot of teams this year) need to fix their offensive line to give a mediocre QB a better chance. I'd have them taking Wamack, but having stronger tackles will also get more production out of Johnson. 11. San Diego Chargers - Chance Wamack (OG). Another team with O-line issues. Just pick him, give him an under-sized jersey and forget about the position for the next decade. 12. Miami Dolphins - Keenan Allen (WR). The first WR to go up. Dolphins need support for Tannehill bad and they'll trade up to get him if they have to. He's Miami bound regardless. 13. Tampa Bay - Xavier Rhodes (CB). After losing Talib on deadline day they'll snap at the chance to get a big physical corner like Rhodes. 14. Carolina Panthers - Cordarelle Patterson (WR). Newton looked ordinary this year and that was largely down to a rift with his #1 Wide-out and a sense of having to carry the team himself. They'll bring in reinforcements this year. 15. New Orleans Saints - Ezekiel Ansah (DE). They need to bring back some venom to their pocket pressure and a DE/OLB who's mobile and athletic like Ansah is ideal. 16. St Louis Rams - Lane Johnson (OT). Another team with O-line needs. Best available player. 17. Pittsburgh Steelers - Matt Elam (SS). An ageing defence needs some serious changes if they're going to the 'bowl again in Big Ben's time. 18. Dallas Cowboys - Jesse Williams (DT). This is where Jesse gets off. The Cowboys have some strong DB's but the opposition often have all day to throw. Someone like Jesse who can push the pocket is ideal. 19. New York Giants - Eric Ried (S). A lack of depth and proficiency was demonstrated this season on a number of occasions. Time to rebuild that secondary around a new Safety. 20. Chicago Bears - DJ Fluker (OT). Their ageing offensive line needs to be fixed ASAP. their ground production fell off this year because of an inability to set the edge resulting in a penchant for the Marshall-Cutler combination. 21. Cincinnati Bengals - Manti Te'o (ILB). They need leadership on defence and Manti brings that to the table in bucketloads, not to mention added flexibility. 22. St Louis (From Washington) - Sam Montgomery (DE). Two first round picks lets them address their line issues on both sides of the ball. 23. Minnesota Vikings - Justin Hunter (WR). With no really tall strong prospect down the sideline and facing potentially losing Harvin in the off-season they're going to have to bring in reinforcements. 24. Indianapolis Colts - Sheldon Richardson (DT). Their playoff blow-out showed just how much work needs to be done around the snap on the defence for the Colts. 25. Seattle Seahawks - Johnathan Haskins (DT). Another team who needs more pressure around the ball. Their defence plays at a high intensity but consistency has been a big issue, especially on the road. 26. Green Bay Packers - Jonathan Cooper (OG). Offensive line issues plagued the team, giving up 51 sacks. They've got strong tackles but the Guard position is an issue. 27. Houston Texans - Kevin Minter (ILB) They face losing a number of their key pass rushers including Cushing. Minter would provide some much-needed relief. 28. Denver Broncos - Jonathan Banks (CB). With Champ Bailey turning 35 in the off-season a new #1 back is going to be needed. 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My mock first 10 picks: 1. Geno Smith (KC) 2. Star Lotulelei (Jags) 3. Jarvis Jones (Raiders) 4. Luke Joeckel (Eagles) 5. Damontre Moore (Lions) 6. Bjorne Werner (Browns) 7. Tyler Wilson (Cards) 8. Manti Te'o (Bills) 9. Berkevious Mingo (Jets) 10. Chance Warmack (Titans)
Bit iffy on that Bills pick, but with the Bills new Head Coach being from Syracuse, i expect them to take Nassib in the 2nd round, and despite his last game, i think Te'o doesnt slip past them.
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Also, who is Matt Moore?
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Matt Moore's a Dolphins QB, I meant Matt Barkley :lol:
I think Te'o is overrated personally. He's had a decent season but his previous years have been average.
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afromanGT wrote:Matt Moore's a Dolphins QB, I meant Matt Barkley :lol:
I think Te'o is overrated personally. He's had a decent season but his previous years have been average. Matt Barkley will struggle to stay in the first round, had a poor season this year.
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Shaker wrote:afromanGT wrote:Matt Moore's a Dolphins QB, I meant Matt Barkley :lol:
I think Te'o is overrated personally. He's had a decent season but his previous years have been average. Matt Barkley will struggle to stay in the first round, had a poor season this year. He might have had a poor season this year, but he's the second best prospect out there. You've got to remember he was injured last year. Tyler Bray was made to look good by some top-level WR's and he's still only 21. He's not ready to be a starter. Tyler Wilson is a pocket passer, he's a good option (was ranked as #1 pick pre-season) but his footwork is bad and he drops his back shoulder too much. Edited by afromanGT: 16/1/2013 11:16:52 PM
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Being a USC fan, I knew all to well of his struggles and injuries. I think teams take into account the injuries and all that, hence why I dropped him to the 2nd round.
Anyone else reading all this Te'o stuff? Insane.
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It would be nice if Gronkowski could stay fit for the playoffs for once.
That Te'o stuff is fucking crazy.
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Quote:It would be nice if Gronkowski could stay fit for the playoffs for once. That's the price you pay for playing him on just about every down on specials and offence for majority of the season. Oregon's Kelly has signed on as the Eagles new coach. Bears have signed up CFL's Trestman. And there's talk Arians could be Cardinals bound. Manti te'o wrote:This is incredibly embarrassing to talk about, but over an extended period of time, I developed an emotional relationship with a woman I met online. We maintained what I thought to be an authentic relationship by communicating frequently online and on the phone, and I grew to care deeply about her. To realize that I was the victim of what was apparently someone's sick joke and constant lies was, and is, painful and humiliating. It further pains me that the grief I felt and the sympathies expressed to me at the time of my grandmother's death in September were in any way deepened by what I believed to be another significant loss in my life. I am enormously grateful for the support of my family, friends and Notre Dame fans throughout this year. To think that I shared with them my happiness about my relationship and details that I thought to be true about her just makes me sick. I hope that people can understand how trying and confusing this whole experience has been. In retrospect, I obviously should have been much more cautious. If anything good comes of this, I hope it is that others will be far more guarded when they engage with people online than I was. Fortunately, I have many wonderful things in my life, and I'm looking forward to putting this painful experience behind me as I focus on preparing for the NFL Draft.
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Just wondering if anyone has see the show Blue Mountain State also known as BMS. It's an American show based around a college football team that includes football, partying and sex. One of the funniest shows I have ever seen. :lol:
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:lol: got a good chuckle out of that one.
I think the lad's in freefall down the draft boards now.
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The Falcons did well to tie Kaepernick down in the first half, but failed to hold up the edge on Gore in the second half.
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Ravens do it for Ray. They're going to New Orleans.
And Brady suffers his first ever loss after leading at half time at home.
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That second half was as bad as the first half vs the 49ers. Dire and horrible to watch. Credit to the Ravens, definitely didn't think they'd play at that high a level and I wasn't that impressed with them in the 2nd half of the season. But they were streets ahead of us tonight. Talib's loss was massive for us, most decisive moment of the game. Coverage fell apart in the 2nd half. Everyone needs to look at themselves after that loss.
Harbaugh vs Harbaugh in the Superbowl then. I wanted the Falcons to win, but should be awesome to see two brothers go up against each other for the title.
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Flacco and Boldin were awesome in the second half. Ravens had something like 5 20+ yard gains in the third quarter.
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I couldn't make out any of that. Is it really that hard for people to edit the video they're trying to upload to youtube instead of recording it on their phone?
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So in a couple of weeks time, either Colin Kaepernick or Joe Flacco are going to be able to call themselves Superbowl champions. The Mayans were right, just 6 weeks early.
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f1worldchamp wrote:So in a couple of weeks time, either Colin Kaepernick or Joe Flacco are going to be able to call themselves Superbowl champions. The Mayans were right, just 6 weeks early. I said last year that the Niners had a good team but they wouldn't make it with Alex Smith at QB. Kaepernick is only a small step up, but their O-line is that good and he's been given that long to study up that he's made a huge difference to the cohesiveness of their offence. Joe Flacco is in the form of his career, and the idea of him winning a ring is still repulsive.
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Im so disappointed by the Falcons, watched the first half before falling asleep on the couch, and the offence looked huge, Julio Jones was massive. Cant believe they just stopped.
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Shaker wrote:Im so disappointed by the Falcons, watched the first half before falling asleep on the couch, and the offence looked huge, Julio Jones was massive. Cant believe they just stopped. The Falcons running game let them down. They had the lead and couldn't run the clock. They only had 81 rushing yards all game and went 3.5 YPA. For a team to have TWO 100 yard receivers and still not get a win is tragic. Ryan threw for 271 yards from 5 drives in the first half and just 125 from 5 drives in the second. Likewise, they only ran for 46 yards in the first half and 35 in the second half. As we've seen with the Packers, you can't win big games without a running game to manage the clock and that second half production killed them. They had just 9 of their 27 first downs in the second half.
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Did someone already post this? I went back a few pages and couldn't find it.
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Manti Te'o has admitted that he continued on with the lie once he knew the truth.
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Nice to see Ray Lewis retire a champion. The most passionate player I've ever seen.
That power outage very nearly fucked over the Ravens. Flacco was immense.
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An appropriate way for Ray Lewis to go out. The man was a champion, regardless of what some people think of his off-field aberrations.
That power-outage was killer. It was almost like the Niners were at home at Candlestick :lol: It was a quality comeback by the niners and it looked like they were just going to run over the top. Putting up the bulk of those points while Ngata was off the field just showed how key he is to the Ravens D-line. It'll be interesting to see how the Ravens back it up next year, but it's hard to argue Flacco hasn't earned a new deal in Baltimore.
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afromanGT wrote:An appropriate way for Ray Lewis to go out. The man was a champion, regardless of what some people think of his off-field aberrations.
That power-outage was killer. It was almost like the Niners were at home at Candlestick :lol: It was a quality comeback by the niners and it looked like they were just going to run over the top. Putting up the bulk of those points while Ngata was off the field just showed how key he is to the Ravens D-line. It'll be interesting to see how the Ravens back it up next year, but it's hard to argue Flacco hasn't earned a new deal in Baltimore.
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afromanGT wrote:regardless of what some people think of his off-field aberrations.
That power-outage was alleged killer Fixed? 8-[
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http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8951703/charles-woodson-released-green-bay-packersQuote:The Green Bay Packers released veteran defensive back Charles Woodson, the team announced Friday. Carl Poston, the agent for Woodson, first told NFL.com that the club would be releasing his client.
"They're getting ready to release him. It's part of the business," Poston said. "I just talked to him. He sounds like he has a lot of football left. He'd like to play for a contender, win another Super Bowl."
Woodson was set to make $9 million in 2013 and would've counted for $10 million against the Packers' salary cap.
Charles Woodson, the 2009 NFL Defensive Player of the Year, was released by the Green Bay Packers on Friday. Woodson, who signed a five-year deal before the 2010 season that was worth as much as $55 million, missed nine games last season because of a broken right collarbone but played in two playoff games. He moved from cornerback to safety last season because of diminishing cover skills.
"We had a good run," Woodson told ESPN 540 in Wisconsin via text message.
Woodson was the NFL Defensive Player of the Year in 2009 and the Defensive Rookie of the Year in 1998. He spent the first eight years of his career with the Oakland Raiders, who drafted him out of Michigan with the No. 4 overall pick.
He's the only player in NFL history with touchdowns off interceptions in six straight seasons, a feat he pulled off from 2006-11, and leads the league with nine touchdowns off interceptions since '06.
Woodson was productive for the Packers, but they have some tough decisions to make this offseason to manage the salary cap. Woodson had a year left on his lucrative deal and linebacker A.J. Hawk is under contract next year for a team that probably wants to give long-term deals to receiver James Jones, linebacker Clay Matthews and defensive tackle B.J. Raji because each of the relatively young standouts potentially could be free agents following next season.
Despite his age and recent injury, Woodson likely will be an in-demand free agent. He was injured last October but bounced back in time to defend two passes in the playoffs.
"Charles has been a stud in this league for 15 years, so whenever he's on the field with us, he's always a huge threat," Hawk said in January. "Not only is he a threat to make huge plays throughout the game, but quarterbacks, I think they know where he's at every single play. He seems to know what receivers are running before they do. And I think he has an intimidation factor as well."
Woodson had a career-high nine interceptions in 2009, picked off seven passes in 2011 and made one interception in seven games during last year's injury-shortened season.
The 1997 Heisman Trophy winner led Michigan to the 1997 national championship and has donated more than $2 million to the University of Michigan Mott Children's Hospital and Women's Hospital, where he supports pediatric clinical research. With the Packers, he was a leader as one of the best players on the team and as a mentor to younger players.
"He's like a big brother to all of us," former Green Bay safety Nick Collins once said. I hope this is a release and resign on lesser dealer type thing. He's been a great mentor for our young DB's.
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It'll be sad to see him go if we don't re-sign him. He's a legend of the team and HoF bound for sure. You couldn't ask for more from a professional these days.
I dunno whether they'll re-negotiate the deal or not. But freeing up 9m in cap room could allow us to keep both Finley and Jennings. So even if we lose him we're keeping two key offensive players. And I'm sure a team like TB or Tennessee will make him a better offer than we're willing to make.
It could also mean that we trade up our first two picks (sweetening them with third round picks) to take a safety and Guard and get our most pressing shopping done early and then spend our 4th round pick on a WR or ILB.
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Kansas City have come to an agreement with San Francisco to trade their second round pick (33 overall) in 2013 and a conditional pick in 2014 in return for Quarterback Alex Smith.
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Quote:Terrell Suggs: Teams hate Patriots Terrell Suggs says he isn't the only one who despises the New England Patriots.
Joining "The Big Show" on WEEI, Suggs said he "guarantees the other 31 teams hate the New England Patriots." The Baltimore Ravens star also said he doesn't feel the Patriots "respect anybody."
Suggs added that he feels that players who have played for the Patriots divulge stories of what's wrong with the organization, though he wouldn't offer details.
"The NFL is not very big," Suggs said on WEEI. "You think we don't talk to guys that have played for the New England Patriots, that have been on the New England Patriots that have been like, 'Oh, it's been like this.'
"It ain't just me. Why did Bart Scott say the same thing? You think it's just us? You think it's just got something to do with us? No. This is because we have inside information. We know."
Suggs also stood by comments and explained why he called the Patriots "the most arrogant p------ in the world" after the Ravens defeated New England in the AFC Championship Game this past January en route to winning the Super Bowl. Suggs took another jab at the Pats after the title game, telling them to "have fun in the Pro Bowl."
"Do I apologize for what I said? No. Do I mean what I said? Yeah," Suggs said. "Could I have worded it a little better? Probably, but the fact of the matter is you can't really consider it a rivalry because you have a few more championships than we do, but this has been steaming for a while."
Suggs brought up how the Patriots acted in 2007 when the teams met as why he doesn't like them. He also said the NFL took extra measures to accomodate Tom Brady after his season-ending knee injury in 2008.
"There was the whole invention of the Brady rule," he said. "Years before, I hit Drew Brees and I accidentally tore his knee up. No rule was made. Of all the quarterbacks in the NFL who got their knees blown out when they got hit -- Carson Palmer got his knee blown out -- but then one guy got hit and changed the whole rule for the NFL?"
Bad blood between Suggs and Brady isn't anything new.
In 2010, a season in which Brady was named NFL MVP, Suggs said he voted for Buffalo Bills quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick over Brady for the Pro Bowl. He also called Brady's three Super Bowl titles "questionable" because of the "tuck rule" game in 2001 and the Spygate scandal that surfaced in 2007.
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Terrell "captain obvious" Suggs.
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Couldn't care a rats ass what Suggs thinks. I don't care if everyone hates us.
I love it how he says players have problems with the organisation, but won't name them (fair enough) or their problems.
The Chiefs could do worse than Smith. Solid QB, very efficient as well.
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Benjo wrote:I love it how he says players have problems with the organisation, but won't name them (fair enough) or their problems. If he started naming names he'd find himself on the outer with a lot of players. They'd just stop talking to him. At least keeping anonymity it just looks like he's running his mouth.
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Joe Flacco will, on monday, sign a new 6 year contract worth around 120m.
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:lol: fucking good luck trading him after he has 2 dud seasons.
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This year just 8 teams have used their franchise tags on players. yahoo sports wrote:Buffalo Bills safety Jairus Byrd - $6.916 million Chicago Bears defensive tackle Henry Melton - $8.45 million Cincinnati Bengals defensive end Michael Johnson - $11.175 million Dallas Cowboys linebacker/defensive end Anthony Spencer - $10.627 million (120 percent his 2012 tender) Denver Broncos offensive tackle Ryan Clady - $9.828 million Indianapolis Colts punter Pat McAfee - $2.977 million Kansas City Chiefs offensive tackle Branden Albert - $9.828 million Miami Dolphins defensive tackle Randy Starks - $8.45 million I guess that's goodbye to one of Jennings/Finley for the packers.
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Can someone please explain how Joe Flacco is the highest paid player in the NFL?
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f1worldchamp wrote:Can someone please explain how Joe Flacco is the highest paid player in the NFL? Ozzie Newsome got his contract advice from Mike Tannenbaum.
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In all seriousness though, the Ravens have worked it pretty well. Only a small cap hit the =first 2 seasons.
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Shaker wrote:In all seriousness though, the Ravens have worked it pretty well. Only a small cap hit the =first 2 seasons. Tbh, that makes it even worse. If he gets inured or reverts to his usual form then they're basically paying him big bucks to be even more of a shit cunt.
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Today is a tale of teams getting ripped off.
Seattle Seahawks have traded Their first round (25th overall), 7th round and a mid-round 2014 pick to Minnesota for Percy Harvin.
But the biggest lol of the day came from Baltimore who were so desperate to save 2m on Anquan Boldin that they accepted a SIXTH ROUND PICK in exchange for him from San Francisco. Lolwut?
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afromanGT wrote:Today is a tale of teams getting ripped off.
Seattle Seahawks have traded Their first round (25th overall), 7th round and a mid-round 2014 pick to Minnesota for Percy Harvin.
But the biggest lol of the day came from Baltimore who were so desperate to save 2m on Anquan Boldin that they accepted a SIXTH ROUND PICK in exchange for him from San Francisco. Lolwut? Article on ESPN made out the Seahawks getting Harvin was a huge deal, saying "By adding Percy Harvin, the Seahawks became the most dangerous team in the NFC" They must have some awesome drugs up there in Bristol. As for the Ravens, why would you give your QB the richest contract in football, then trade his favourite receiver?
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Percy Harvin does bring a LOT to the team, they've now got a legitimate inside threat instead of relying on some creative routes from some 50-50 wideouts. But there's no way that he's worth 3 picks to a team that needs to reinforce the consistency of their Centre.
As for Baltimore...I'm dumbfounded for the exact reason you said. Like...granted they've now cleared 8m/year off their salary cap. But for a 6th round pick when he's your top receiver? I mean granted, Smith is a bigger deep threat...but damn.
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I usually dont like Free Agency but it seems my Titans are gonna be doing something this year. Our biggest target is obviously Andy Levitre from the Bills, and it seems we are the favourites to sign him, also on our radar are Usi Umeniyora DE (Giants), John Abraham DE (Falcons), Dwight Freeney DE (Colts), Michael Bennett DE (Bucs), Dustin Keller TE (Jets), Martellus Bennett TE (Giants) and Ricky Jean Francois DT (Niners).
Obviously our biggest need is the OL, and my preferences are Levitre, Umeniyora and Keller. We need some depth at DE with Wimbley and Morgan starting, Usi would be a top pickup and would help our pass rush. Levitre is a no brainer now that Hutchinson has retired. As for Francois, he is there only if we dont re-sign SenDerrick Marks.
The need at Tight End is crucial, as Jake Locker needs a person who can catch at that position. When he played, Jared Cook was probably Jakes favourite reciever. Jared is heading to FA (And probably going to get 8-10m a season O_O ) which is disappointing, he was severely underused in our system and i think if he's given plenty of snaps, he'll be one of the best TEs in the NFL. Keller could come in and be a solid starter in Nashville.
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I wouldn't get excited about guys like Umeniyora and Freeney. You'll get 2-3 seasons tops out of them and pay through the nose. I'd also be worried if Cook got that kind of money. He's a catching TE but he's not fast enough. He's worth 6m tops.
I'll be interested to see what the packers do. Whether they actively chase a replacement for Jennings, cut Finley, chase Steven Jackson at RB and strengthen the D-line...or pick up a strong WR. There's so much potentially going on with our squad if we want to be aggressive. Especially in light of the Niners moves this offseason.
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afromanGT wrote:I wouldn't get excited about guys like Umeniyora and Freeney. You'll get 2-3 seasons tops out of them and pay through the nose. I'd also be worried if Cook got that kind of money. He's a catching TE but he's not fast enough. He's worth 6m tops.
I'll be interested to see what the packers do. Whether they actively chase a replacement for Jennings, cut Finley, chase Steven Jackson at RB and strengthen the D-line...or pick up a strong WR. There's so much potentially going on with our squad if we want to be aggressive. Especially in light of the Niners moves this offseason.
Cant block to save himself either, but a load of teams are chasing him apparently. Im thinking my preferences to wake up to in the morning are Levitre and the Bennett brothers.
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Very happy with our first day, secured Levitre and filled a need with Delanie Walker.
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Shaker wrote:Cant block to save himself either, but a load of teams are chasing him apparently. Im thinking my preferences to wake up to in the morning are Levitre and the Bennett brothers. Yeah, Cook isn't an elite TE. That's why they didn't franchise him. He's not even on a level with Jermichael Finley - who thinks he's markedly better than he actually is. Mike Wallace has joined Miami on a 5 year $60m deal. He's good, but he's not THAT good. Cleveland have coughed up $40m for Paul Kruger from Baltimore. The Buffalo Bills have cut starting QB Ryan Fitzpatrick and Oakland have cut former first round pick Heyward-Bey.
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afromanGT wrote:Shaker wrote:Cant block to save himself either, but a load of teams are chasing him apparently. Im thinking my preferences to wake up to in the morning are Levitre and the Bennett brothers. Yeah, Cook isn't an elite TE. That's why they didn't franchise him. He's not even on a level with Jermichael Finley - who thinks he's markedly better than he actually is. Mike Wallace has joined Miami on a 5 year $60m deal. He's good, but he's not THAT good. Cleveland have coughed up $40m for Paul Kruger from Baltimore. The Buffalo Bills have cut starting QB Ryan Fitzpatrick and Oakland have cut former first round pick Heyward-Bey. The thing with franchising him is that he lines up in the slot for more than 60% of his snaps, so if we had Tagged him as a TE, he was going to contest it and try and get tagged as a WR, which means he'd have got around 4m more next season. Not worth it.
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Fun fact: the average duration of a free agent's stay at a team is 2.8 years. The average contract signed is 4.2. Thanks to ESPN's John Clayton for that one.
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Amendola is now a Patriot. (I never liked him anyway) Welker has joined the Broncos Avril has joined the Seahawks Bush has joined the Lions Mendenhall has joined the Cardinals. Rodgers Cromartie has joined the Broncos.
Rumours are gong around that the Bucs have offered a second round pick this year, and a first round pick next year in exchange for New York's Revis.
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Titans second day was ok, dont know much about DT Sammy Lee Hill from Detroit or RB Shonn Green so need to do my homework before really commenting.
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Shaker wrote:Titans second day was ok, dont know much about DT Sammy Lee Hill from Detroit or RB Shonn Green so need to do my homework before really commenting. Shonne Green is NY's top rusher for the last two seasons. He has a shit YPA though.
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Looks like he'll be the guy to get the hard yards in our rushing offence, sort of the same way Lendale White was with CJ a few years ago. Hopefully he can make a difference and add something.
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Farewell Wes :cry: Would've loved to have kept him. Brady's most favourite target too.
We seem to be rading the Rams for R's now. Lloyd last year, Amendola this year. He's now Welker, but he's a good signing none the less.
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Yeah, you'll have picked him up as a Third Down back. CJ had a LOT of 0 and negative gains on third down.
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All my knowledge of shonn greene comes from Madden.
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Benjo wrote:All my knowledge of shonn greene comes from Madden. One of my good mates is a Jets fan. Poor bloke :lol: Green isn't a 'bad' RB. But he's got one of the worst YPA's in the league for a #1 back. Quote:Would've loved to have kept him. Brady's most favourite target too. Cost cutting so they can make a move for Woodson I think. In the last 3 years we've seen Brady hook up with Welker 326 times, the next closest is Gronk with 187 and Hernandez on 175 receptions. That's a huge gap.
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afromanGT wrote:Quote:Would've loved to have kept him. Brady's most favourite target too. Cost cutting so they can make a move for Woodson I think. In the last 3 years we've seen Brady hook up with Welker 326 times, the next closest is Gronk with 187 and Hernandez on 175 receptions. That's a huge gap. I don't think we'll make a move for Woodson. I think it's more the organisation weighing up the long terms benefits and deciding not to keep him. He turned down a deal last year and I think that's what convinced them to let him go. It's a massive gap. They were best friends off the field as well. I know Brady has a very high opinion of Welker, he's called him the bes tplayer on the team more than a few times. He'll be gutted to see him go.
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They reportedly offered him a 10m deal and the Broncos offered him 11.5m, the Pats declined to match the Broncs offer.
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Cook as joined the Rams. Steven Jackson has joined the Falcons Landry has joined the Colts. Goldson has joined Tampa Bay Michael Bennett has joined the Seahawks Conor Barwin has joined Philly.
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Disappointed that we missed out on Bennett but i think we'll sure up the pass rush in the draft.
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I'm perplexed by the Packers. They've let Bush, Mendenhall and Jackson go. They'd better pick up Ahmad Bradshaw. We need a RB who can actually rush for a hundred yards in a game FFS.
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Packers woeful off-season continues with Greg Jennings joining the Vikings on a five year 47.5m deal. Danny Woodhead has joined the Chargers Adrian Wilson has joined the Patriots Keller and Gibson have joined the Dolphins
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Wow. Never thought Jennings would leave.
Sad to see Woodhead go. One of my favourite players. Not a 100YPG player, but an awesome running back to have in the rotation. Often had big games when we needed it as well. On the flip side, we did get Leon Washington.
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I really have no idea what the hell the Packers are doing letting Jennings go. Losing Jennings and Driver in one season is a huge blow for Rodgers. Cobb is good, but we're going to need to bring in another WR or Nelson will be rendered useless.
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Hasselbeck Out, Ryan Fitzpatrick in. Ive never really noted Fitz before, but what im getting off twitter is one of 2 things, 1) He's shit and 2) He has upside. I tend to believe a 1 though.
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Shaker wrote:Hasselbeck Out, Ryan Fitzpatrick in. Ive never really noted Fitz before, but what im getting off twitter is one of 2 things, 1) He's shit and 2) He has upside. I tend to believe a 1 though. He's your standard "gun-slinger" type QB and he could do well with good vertical threats like Washington and Wright. But he's not the sharpest QB out there. He won't win you any titles but he could get you through the season if you're looking to tank your way to Manziel - good luck beatin gout the Chiefs, Jets, Jags and Cardinals with that one though.
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So in today's news the NFL teams have voted 31-1 (the only dissenting team being Cincinnati) to ban the ball carrier from lowering his head. I understand it's all well and good to force the offensive sides to change their game as much as the defensive sides, but they've basically destroyed all efficiency of the running back. They're THAT scared of the lawsuits. May as well just make the league two-hand-touch. #-o
In other news, Ed Reed has joined the Houston Texans.
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afromanGT wrote:So in today's news the NFL teams have voted 31-1 (the only dissenting team being Cincinnati) to ban the ball carrier from lowering his head. I understand it's all well and good to force the offensive sides to change their game as much as the defensive sides, but they've basically destroyed all efficiency of the running back. They're THAT scared of the lawsuits. May as well just make the league two-hand-touch. #-o
In other news, Ed Reed has joined the Houston Texans. And Bernard Pollard has joined the Titans.
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The Ravens are going to have the worst Super Bowl defence of all time. The Giants are sitting there thinking "Welp, fuck...I'm glad someone's coming along to make our defence look better."
Sidebar: what the fuck are Chicago doing to Urlacher? Even though he's a Bear, I fucking love the guy. How do you do that to one of the best players to ever pull on a Bears jersey?
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It's been quiet over Easter but there's been a flurry of deals today:
Heyward-Bey has joined the Colts.
Flynn has been traded from the Seahawks to the Raiders for a fifth round 2014 and conditional 2015 pick (bargain there).
In the "take him, just fucking take him" move of the off-season, Carson Palmer has been traded from Oakland to Arizona for a conditional 7th round pick.
Nnamdi Asomugha has joined San Fran on a 1 year 1.35m deal.
WR Steve Smith and Kicker Nate Kaeding have both joined Tampa Bay.
And after a heart scare at the combine, Star Lotulelei has been declared "safe to play" by physios.
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Also missed Romo getting a 6 year deal :lol:
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Draft this month. So keen, almost finished my mock first with all the free agency nearly done. Titans have signed 10 players in Free agency, only piece we didnt sign is a pass rusher, so look to us to either take OL Cooper or a DE.
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On a side note, this years New Era Draft hats have just dropped, just bought this one:
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Benjo wrote:Also missed Romo getting a 6 year deal :lol: Fun fact: That contract is front-loaded for the first 4 years of the deal. Pretty much the final 2 years are entirely incentives. And he has some 75m guaranteed, making him the second highest paid NFL player this season. So I'm pretty much just going to pretend like it didn't happen. Quote:Draft this month. So keen, almost finished my mock first with all the free agency nearly done. Titans have signed 10 players in Free agency, only piece we didnt sign is a pass rusher, so look to us to either take OL Cooper or a DE. Thinking I might re-do my mock as well. Can't see both Alex Smith and Geno Smith at Kansas. I was going to get one of the Draft Erap caps...but the shipping is a bit steep. Gonna wait until payday and get one of the Impact jerseys. Edited by afromanGT: 3/4/2013 05:04:12 PM
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afromanGT wrote:Benjo wrote:Also missed Romo getting a 6 year deal :lol: Fun fact: That contract is front-loaded for the first 4 years of the deal. Pretty much the final 2 years are entirely incentives. And he has some 75m guaranteed, making him the second highest paid NFL player this season. So I'm pretty much just going to pretend like it didn't happen. Quote:Draft this month. So keen, almost finished my mock first with all the free agency nearly done. Titans have signed 10 players in Free agency, only piece we didnt sign is a pass rusher, so look to us to either take OL Cooper or a DE. Thinking I might re-do my mock as well. Can't see both Alex Smith and Geno Smith at Kansas. I was going to get one of the Draft Erap caps...but the shipping is a bit steep. Gonna wait until payday and get one of the Impact jerseys. Edited by afromanGT: 3/4/2013 05:04:12 PM 24 for shipping from fanatics.com isnt so bad, but i bought a few hats so it doesnt seem as bad.
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Having a poke around on Fanatics. I wish they had a red JJ Watt jersey. Would definitely buy that.
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in other hilarious trade news, The Browns have swapped Colt McCoy and a sixth round pick to the Niners for a Fifth and Seventh round pick.
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My final mock draft. 1. KC - Luke Joeckel OT (Texas A+M) 2. Jax - Dion Jordan DE (Oregon) 3. Oak - Geno Smith QB (WVU) 4. Phi - Star Lotulelei DT (Utah) 5. Det - Eric Fisher OT (UCM) 6. Cle - Dee Milliner CB (Alabama) 7. Ari - Lane Johnson OT (Oklahoma) 8. Buf - Ezekiel Ansah DE (BYU) 9. Nyj - Bjoern Werner DE (FSU) 10. Ten - Chance Warmack OG (Alabama) 11. SD - Jonathan Cooper OG (UNC) 12. Mia - Xavier Rhodes CB (FSU) 13. TB - Barkevious Mingo DE (LSU) 14. Car - Shariff Floyd DT (Florida) 15. NO - Kenny Vaccaro FS (Texas) 16. StL - Tavon Austin WR (WVU) 17. Pitt - Jarvis Jones OLB (Georgia) 18. Dall - DJ Fluker OT (Alabama) 19. Nyg - Damontre Moore DE (Texas A+M) 20. Chi - Alec Ogletree OLB (Georgia) 21. Cin - Jonathan Hankins DT (Ohio State) 22. StL - Keenan Allen WR (California) 23. Minn - Sheldon Richardson DT (Mizzou) 24. Ind - Datone Jones DE (UCLA) 25. Minn - Cordarrelle Patterson WR (Tennessee) 26. GB - Eddie Lacy RB (Alabama) 27. Hou - Kevin Minter ILB (LSU) 28. Den - Jesse Williams DT (Alabama) 29. NE - Matt Elam SS (Florida) 30. Atl - Tyler Eifert TE (Notre Dame) 31. SF - Desmond Trufant CB (Washington) 32. Bal - Manti Te'o ILB (Notre Dame)
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My Personal theory on the Titans is we either go for the OL, or we nab a CB, either if Milliner drops or we take a stab at Rhodes, and draft a guard in the second. Personally id like to see us take Rhodes and draft Warford from Kentucky in the 2nd.
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We won't take a RB in the first round. There's no way Teo will fall to Baltimore either.
Draw is out. Packers have some tough away games @Atlanta, @Baltimore and opening the season @Niners. Not happy with that. Not to mention the 4th round bye - they usually give the early bye to teams they don't expect to make the play-offs. The .525 draw is the third consecutive draw over 500.
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afromanGT wrote:We won't take a RB in the first round. There's no way Teo will fall to Baltimore either.
Draw is out. Packers have some tough away games @Atlanta, @Baltimore and opening the season @Niners. Not happy with that. Not to mention the 4th round bye - they usually give the early bye to teams they don't expect to make the play-offs. The .525 draw is the third consecutive draw over 500. They also usually have the Packers bye much later so they can play home games at Lambeau before it gets too cold!
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f1worldchamp wrote:afromanGT wrote:We won't take a RB in the first round. There's no way Teo will fall to Baltimore either.
Draw is out. Packers have some tough away games @Atlanta, @Baltimore and opening the season @Niners. Not happy with that. Not to mention the 4th round bye - they usually give the early bye to teams they don't expect to make the play-offs. The .525 draw is the third consecutive draw over 500. They also usually have the Packers bye much later so they can play home games at Lambeau before it gets too cold! Steelers at Lambau on December 22nd could be an all-time great game.
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Darelle Revis to the Bucs (6yr 96m) Pick 13 and conditional 2014 pick (3rd or 4th rounder) to the Jets
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The Jets really weren't in much of a position to negotiate. But that's an insane contract for Revis. That's QB/WR kind of money, not DB money.
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afromanGT wrote:The Jets really weren't in much of a position to negotiate. But that's an insane contract for Revis. That's QB/WR kind of money, not DB money. TBf, he is the best CB in the league. even so, it is a lot of money.
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Benjo wrote:afromanGT wrote:The Jets really weren't in much of a position to negotiate. But that's an insane contract for Revis. That's QB/WR kind of money, not DB money. TBf, he is the best CB in the league. even so, it is a lot of money. The top earning corners are on around 8-10m a season. That's insane to think that they think he's worth roughly double that.
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So ESPN are having a live mock-draft where the divisional bloggers pick for their respective teams. This was their first round: 1. Kansas City: Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M, 2. Jacksonville: Dion Jordan, DE, Oregon, 3. Miami: Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan; [from Oakland] 4. Philadelphia, Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah; 5. Detroit: Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma; 6. Cleveland: Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama; 7. Arizona: Chance Warmack, G, Alabama; 8. Buffalo: Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee; 9. NYJ: Barkevious Mingo, DE, LSU; 10. Tennessee: Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida; 11. San Diego: Jonathan Cooper, G, UNC; 12. Oakland: Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU; [from Miami] 13. NYJ: Tavon Austin, WR, WVU; [from Tampa Bay] 14. Carolina: Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri.; 15. New Orleans: Jarvis Jones, LB/DE, Georgia; 16. St. Louis: Kenny Vaccaro, S, Texas; 17. Pittsburgh: Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame; 18. Dallas: D.J. Fluker, OT, Alabama; 19. NYG: Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington; 20. Chicago: Alec Ogletree, ILB, Georgia; 21. Cincinnati: John Cyprien, FS, FIU; 22. St. Louis: Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee; [From Washington] 23. Minnesota: Sylvester Williams, DT, UNC; 24. Indianapolis: Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida State; 25. Minnesota: D.J. Hayden, CB, Houston; [From Seattle] 26. Green Bay: John Jenkins, DT, Georgia. 27. Houston: Keenan Allen, WR, Cal. 28. Denver Broncos: Bjoern Werner, DE, FSU. 29. New England: Robert Woods, WR, USC. 30. Atlanta: Jamar Taylor, CB, Boise State. 31. San Francisco 49ers: Eric Reid, S, LSU. 32. Baltimore Ravens: Manti Te'o, LB, Notre Dame.
Not sure about Steelers taking Eifert. Also surprised nobody took a QB or RB in the first round.
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Sharriff Floyd? No. We have bigger needs than DT.
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Shaker wrote:Sharriff Floyd? No. We have bigger needs than DT. Pretty much your whole O-line needs to be addressed before that. That was another head-scratcher...but the Titans didn't get to where they are by making good draft picks y'know... I'm entirely unconvinced that with Ed Reid still on the board, the Pack wouldn't snap him up in an instant. The guy can play FS or SS and is probably the best DB on the board, if he fell to 26 we'd fall over ourselves to have him in next to Burnett.
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If Ansah or Cooper are on the board at 10, we take them before even looking at Floyd. In terms of the way we draft, i think we havent done too badly in the first round. Since we've been in Nashville, we've taken 1st rounders like Kearse, Bulluck, Haynesworth (Who was good when he ran our line), CJ2k and Kenny Britt. Griffin has done ok, VY did well for a season and its hard to gauge Locker yet.
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Also in terms of the Jets 13th pick, i fully expect them to waste it on reaching for a QB, probably Matt Barkley.
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Shaker wrote:Also in terms of the Jets 13th pick, i fully expect them to waste it on reaching for a QB, probably Matt Barkley. Honestly, I reckon they'll still have one of Manuel, Barkley or Smith on the board for their second round pick. They'll use their first on Tavon Austin and their second on a DE That said, they know that Austin is on Bills board, so they may have to give up a third rounder and trade up.
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Merry Christmas fellow Draft fans
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Jesse Williams misses out on the first round.
1. Kansas City Chiefs Eric Fisher OT Central Michigan 2. Jacksonville Jaguars Luke Joeckel OT Texas A&M 3. Miami Dolphins Dion Jordan OLB Oregon 4. Philadelphia Eagles Lane Johnson OT Oklahoma 5. Detroit Lions Ezekiel Ansah DE BYU 6. Cleveland Browns Barkevious Mingo OLB LSU 7. Arizona Cardinals Jonathan Cooper G North Carolina 8. St. Louis Rams Tavon Austin WR West Virginia 9. New York Jets Dee Milliner CB Alabama 10. Tennessee Titans Chance Warmack G Alabama 11. San Diego Chargers D.J. Fluker OT Alabama 12. Oakland Raiders D.J. Hayden CB Houston 13. New York Jets Sheldon Richardson DT Missouri 14. Carolina Panthers Star Lotulelei DT Utah 15. New Orleans Saints Kenny Vaccaro S Texas 16. Buffalo Bills E.J. Manuel QB Florida St. 17. Pittsburgh Steelers Jarvis Jones OLB Georgia 18. San Francisco 49ers Eric Reid S LSU 19. New York Giants Justin Pugh OT Syracuse 20. Chicago Bears Kyle Long G Oregon 21. Cincinnati Bengals Tyler Eifert TE Notre Dame 22. Atlanta Falcons Desmond Trufant CB Washington 23. Minnesota Vikings Sharrif Floyd DT Florida 24. Indianapolis Colts Bjoern Werner DE Florida St. 25. Minnesota Vikings Xavier Rhodes CB Florida St. 26. Green Bay Packers Datone Jones DE UCLA 27. Houston Texans DeAndre Hopkins WR Clemson 28. Denver Broncos Sylvester Williams DT North Carolina 29. Minnesota Vikings Cordarrelle Patterson WR Tennessee 30. St. Louis Rams Alec Ogletree MLB Georgia 31. Dallas Cowboys Travis Frederick C Wisconsin 32. Baltimore Ravens Matt Elam S Florida
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First time since the merger that no RB has been taken in the first round. Huge draft by the Vikings. They're going to be strong this year. Ditto Chargers.
Fairly happy with the Packers picking up Jones and Lacy...not sure what they're doing trading down and buck-shotting it though. Really frustrating to see today we've drafted OT JC Tretter and RB Jonathan Franklin. WTF to we need another RB for? Draft a WR FFS!
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Jesse Williams finally gets drafted as the 4th pick of the 5th round (137 overall) by Seattle Seahawks.
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afromanGT wrote:Jesse Williams finally gets drafted as the 4th pick of the 5th round (137 overall) by Seattle Seahawks. Can't decide if this was a big fall for a really talented player or we just heard a lot about him cause he's Australian. I'm thinking the latter.
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f1worldchamp wrote:afromanGT wrote:Jesse Williams finally gets drafted as the 4th pick of the 5th round (137 overall) by Seattle Seahawks. Can't decide if this was a big fall for a really talented player or we just heard a lot about him cause he's Australian. I'm thinking the latter. Nah, NFL.com rated him as a potential starter. He fell down the boards because of a hamstring injury (much like what happened with Lacy). Most people ranked him a late first/early second round talent and the Seahawks have picked themselves up a gem IMO. I hope Ted Thompson knows what he's doing, trading back like that when we could have had some quality in the third round. Edited by afromanGT: 29/4/2013 04:27:23 AM
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afromanGT wrote:f1worldchamp wrote:afromanGT wrote:Jesse Williams finally gets drafted as the 4th pick of the 5th round (137 overall) by Seattle Seahawks. Can't decide if this was a big fall for a really talented player or we just heard a lot about him cause he's Australian. I'm thinking the latter. Nah, NFL.com rated him as a potential starter. He fell down the boards because of a hamstring injury (much like what happened with Lacy). Most people ranked him a late first/early second round talent and the Seahawks have picked themselves up a gem IMO. I hope Ted Thompson knows what he's doing, trading back like that when we could have had some quality in the third round. Edited by afromanGT: 29/4/2013 04:27:23 AM I read this morning he actaully had (minor) knee surgery recently, which is what may have scared a few teams off.
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Yeah, that could have scared a few teams off. But why somewhere like Carolina (who need depth on their D-line) wouldn't make a move for him in the third or fourth round is lost on me.
I'm really perplexed by the packers not attempting to move up in the third for a WR with guys like Wheeton, Allen and T. Williams still on the board.
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Tim Tebow has been released after one rocky season on the New York Jets bench.
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afromanGT wrote:Tim Tebow has been released after one rocky season on the New York Jets bench. Bring on the CFL!
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f1worldchamp wrote:afromanGT wrote:Tim Tebow has been released after one rocky season on the New York Jets bench. Bring on the CFL! It's a pity they disbanded NFL Europe. Otherwise they really could send him to Siberia.
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afromanGT wrote:f1worldchamp wrote:afromanGT wrote:Tim Tebow has been released after one rocky season on the New York Jets bench. Bring on the CFL! It's a pity they disbanded NFL Europe. Otherwise they really could send him to Siberia. I went to an NFL Europe game once. Scottish Claymores vs Frankfurt Galaxy at Murrayfield. In the end it may as well have been the German Football League, I think the last season all 6 teams were German based. He could always come and play here: http://gridironnsw.org.au/
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I've trained with a couple of Gridiron Vic teams - spend a fair bit of time with the Miners training with mates and learned OLB is my ideal position - Dunno if 'god' would pay his salary to come out here, as much as it has potential for awesomeness :lol:
Sidebar, How awesome would it be to campaign for the Packers (with their green and gold) to play a pre-season game out here? 73k watched Denver v San Diego in 1999, surely we're due another game out here?
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I played O-Line for 3 years before I went OS and the team disbanded. Much prefer playing on offense. I was at that game in '99, my first sporting event at the Olympic Stadium. At the time Denver were reigning champs and both teams had Aussie punters. Packers playing here would be one event I'd be pulling out all the stops to get the full package for. They've kinda given up in the 'American Bowl' overseas games since they started playing regular season games outside the US.
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Im playing this season for the West Coast Wolverines over here in Perth. Thinking im gonna be a lineman, but would love to be a MLB.
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Shaker wrote:Im playing this season for the West Coast Wolverines over here in Perth. Thinking im gonna be a lineman, but would love to be a MLB. MLB's are generally fucking huge. Quote:I played O-Line for 3 years before I went OS and the team disbanded. Much prefer playing on offense. I hated playing O-line. Not knowing what was going on behind me did my head in. Playing OLB and trying to get around the TE or push him back into the QB and just being generally aggressive was brilliant fun. Quote:I was at that game in '99, my first sporting event at the Olympic Stadium. At the time Denver were reigning champs and both teams had Aussie punters. They came out here only a couple of weeks after John Elway retired wasn't it?
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afromanGT wrote:Quote:I was at that game in '99, my first sporting event at the Olympic Stadium. At the time Denver were reigning champs and both teams had Aussie punters. They came out here only a couple of weeks after John Elway retired wasn't it? Yep, it was a bit of a let down, IIRC some of the marketing was based around seeing him play, then he bailed.
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DE John Abraham visiting the Titans this week.
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Shaker wrote:DE John Abraham visiting the Titans this week. He'll be 35 when the season starts. Don't get too excited. You'll get maybe 1 good season out of him.
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Not excited, adds depth i guess.
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It'd make sense if you'd taken a DE or two in the first few rounds of the draft...but when you've got a 5th rounder and seven DE's in a 4-3 set-up I think you're wasting time and money.
If you're going to invest in the D, bring in a linebacker to compliment Ayers and some corners who actually know how to cover. Getting into a shoot-out with Detroit last season didn't bode well for your secondary.
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afromanGT wrote:It'd make sense if you'd taken a DE or two in the first few rounds of the draft...but when you've got a 5th rounder and seven DE's in a 4-3 set-up I think you're wasting time and money.
If you're going to invest in the D, bring in a linebacker to compliment Ayers and some corners who actually know how to cover. Getting into a shoot-out with Detroit last season didn't bode well for your secondary. Took 2 CBs and a safety in the draft while adding Pollard and Wilson in FA. I think we've upgraded, but we still miss Finnegan.
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Honestly, I don't think they miss Finnegan as badly as you think. His anger management and discipline was poor and the 15+ yards he cost you per game (not to meniton loss of downs) made up for any big plays he made.
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I've always had a soft spot for the Bengals...and now they've drafted a player with the same surname as me. I'm tempted to buy one of their jerseys.
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afromanGT wrote:I've always had a soft spot for the Bengals...and now they've drafted a player with the same surname as me. I'm tempted to buy one of their jerseys. So you can look like a candy cane? :lol:
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f1worldchamp wrote:afromanGT wrote:I've always had a soft spot for the Bengals...and now they've drafted a player with the same surname as me. I'm tempted to buy one of their jerseys. So you can look like a candy cane? :lol: I was kinda hoping he'd get picked up by the Falcons or Texans so I could have a red one. The Old Rebok jersey wasn't bad. No idea why they've added those white panels. It makes it look like a training jersey. The Niners have picked Adam Snyder back up from the Cardinals. Has anyone else been watching the Geno Smith circus?
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After a sensational 13 year career one of the greats, Brian Urlacher, has called it a day.
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afromanGT wrote:After a sensational 13 year career one of the greats, Brian Urlacher, has called it a day. Thanks goodness for that! Kinda player you love to hate as a Packer fan, would have loved on my team though.
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f1worldchamp wrote:afromanGT wrote:After a sensational 13 year career one of the greats, Brian Urlacher, has called it a day. Thanks goodness for that! Kinda player you love to hate as a Packer fan, would have loved on my team though. I hated watching us come up against him, but he was a joy to watch the way he orchestrated the pass rush. It's going to he a gaping hole for the Bears next season regardless. Next season it's going to be Lions/Bears >> Daylight >>> Vikings and Packers.
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LA Rams legend Deacon Jones, the man who coined the term "sack" for tackling the QB behind the line of scrimmage, has died at the age of 74.
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afromanGT wrote:LA Rams legend Deacon Jones, the man who coined the term "sack" for tackling the QB behind the line of scrimmage, has died at the age of 74. Icon among Icons. RIP
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nfl.com wrote:Brett Favre on breakup with Packers: 'I was at fault' A formal reunion between the Green Bay Packers and No. 4 is creeping closer and closer.
Brett Favre, speaking to Joe Buscaglia of WGR-AM in Buffalo on Thursday to promote Jim Kelly's "Hunter's Hope" charity auction, took part of the blame for how his end with the Packers transpired.
"It's over and done with. I was at fault," Favre said, per the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. "I feel that both sides had a part in it. If you could go back, would I or them have done things differently? I'm sure both sides would. But you can't."
Favre has discussed burying the hatchet in the past, but he hasn't been as forthright in taking ownership of how he put the Packers in a tough spot after his initial retirement.
When asked about having his number retired by the Packers, Favre was optimistic it would happen soon and credited team president Mark Murphy for patching the discord.
"I'm honored just by the thought," Favre said. "Obviously there was, if you want to call it, 'bad blood' or whatever, I just think that people started picking sides. And really I'm over that and have been over it. Mark Murphy and I have talked on numerous occasions. I never expected them to do anything. I'm not one to sit here and say I think they need to do this and do that."
Current Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers put emphasis on a Favre-Packers reunion late last month, saying it was about time for the "healing process" to begin. The frigid relationship between Favre and Rodgers has been questioned in the past, but Favre reiterated that their appearance together at the 2013 NFL Honors wasn't an act.
"Aaron has said some very nice things," Favre said. "He and I have a good relationship. I had a chance to present an award with him at the Super Bowl, and that was for real. It wasn't for show. And so I think everything will be fine."
Favre said he had no idea when a reunion would happen.
"As time goes, it heals a lot of things," he said. "So the things that transpired that led to us 'breaking up' if you will, to me, are over and done with. When will (the jersey retirement) happen? I don't think either side is trying to push the issue. ... I think both sides are genuine. I know they are. And that's the way it has to come across because that's the way it should be. We don't want to go out there waving to the crowd with our backs to each other. And I don't think that's going to happen."
Of course, in true Favrian fashion, he did take some credit for setting an example for how not to handle the exit of a future Hall of Fame quarterback.
"I don't know for certain, but I think the situation with Peyton (Manning) and the (Indianapolis) Colts almost looked like our situation, but then maybe they thought twice about it and maybe they learned from our situation and they handled it correctly," Favre said. I've been waiting years for this moment.
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I don't think it will ever be fixed entirely. Not for me anyway.
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f1worldchamp wrote:I don't think it will ever be fixed entirely. Not for me anyway. Of course not. The way he behaved was unforgivable. But that said, his name deserves to be in the Pack HoF as much as any other QB with his kind of career achievements. It should be mandatory therapy for Packers fans to watch the sack Clay Matthews laid out on Favre when he was at the Vikes. Rams CB Cortland Finnigan has backed the Detroit Lions to win the Super Bowl if his own St Louis Rams don't do it :lol:
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We've just signed Tim Tebow as back up to Brady. Oh god, if something happens to Tom...
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Benjo wrote:We've just signed Tim Tebow as back up to Brady. Oh god, if something happens to Tom... From a fan's perspective, it's horrible. But for Tebow it's the best move possible. Brady's got maybe 3-4 years left in him, he's already starting to lose arm strength. If Brady has one bad game you're not going to have people going "START TEBOW!" like he had in New York which gives him a chance to ride the pine and learn behind one of the all-time great QB's and better develop his throwing action. Which will in turn give the Pats a ready made replacement for Brady.
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Not sure I understand the Tebow hate, didn't he take Denver to the playoffs? Why does everyone act like they pulled some guy off the street and put pads on him? He was a winner in college and won in the NFL. Not saying I want him to backup Rodgers, but I bet my left one the Patriots know exactly what they are going to do with him.
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Isnt Tebow 3rd choice anyway? Thought the Pats had Mallett as backup? As for Cortlands prediction:
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f1worldchamp wrote:Not sure I understand the Tebow hate, didn't he take Denver to the playoffs? Why does everyone act like they pulled some guy off the street and put pads on him? He was a winner in college and won in the NFL. Not saying I want him to backup Rodgers, but I bet my left one the Patriots know exactly what they are going to do with him. I think part of the problem is the amount of attention he garners from his controversial personality. His record as a starter is 9-7 and yeah, he got Denver to the play-offs in 2011 but he had a great receiving corps. His pass completion percentage in that time was 45.5% which is terrible. In the 6 consecutive wins that got them into the '11 playoffs he only threw 7 TD's FFS.
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afromanGT wrote:f1worldchamp wrote:Not sure I understand the Tebow hate, didn't he take Denver to the playoffs? Why does everyone act like they pulled some guy off the street and put pads on him? He was a winner in college and won in the NFL. Not saying I want him to backup Rodgers, but I bet my left one the Patriots know exactly what they are going to do with him. I think part of the problem is the amount of attention he garners from his controversial personality. His record as a starter is 9-7 and yeah, he got Denver to the play-offs in 2011 but he had a great receiving corps. His pass completion percentage in that time was 45.5% which is terrible. In the 6 consecutive wins that got them into the '11 playoffs he only threw 7 TD's FFS. See, here's where I think he's more than the sum of his stats. He was still a big part of their wins, TD passes or not. They were a run first team anyway and he played the option very well. Either way, to me there are worse QB's than him with NFL contracts.
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Of course there are worse QB's than him with NFL contracts, but few if any of them are starting. He's not a starter.
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Aaron Hernandez charged with murder. Has been released by the Patriots. Massive loss for us, especially with Gronkowski not fit. Having said that, looks like he's guilty sadly.
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It looks like a pretty cut and dry case. He's a talented player but I never really liked the guy.
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NFL.com have finished unveiling the players' top 100. The top 10 went thus: 10. Patrick Willis (O) 9. Von Miller (-) 8. Arian Foster (-) 7. Aldon Smith (O) 6. Aaron Rodgers (U) 5. JJ Watt (-) 4. Tom Brady (-) 3. Calvin Johnson (-) 2. Peyton Manning (O) 1. Adrian Peterson (-)
I can't believe Matthews only came in at 31.
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Quote:The New England Patriots are offering anyone with an Aaron Hernandez jersey the opportunity to exchange it for a free jersey of comparable value, the team announced.
Earlier this week, Hernandez was charged in the murder of an acquaintance and released by the Patriots.
"We know that children love wearing their Patriots jerseys but may not understand why parents don't want them wearing their Hernandez jerseys anymore," Patriots spokesman Stacey James said in a statement. "We hope this opportunity to exchange those jerseys at the Patriots Pro Shop for another player's jersey will be well received by parents."
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I hate the Pats...but that's a quality gesture. Props, Pats marketing department.
This whole Hernandez thing has let Mark Sanchez comparatively slip under the radar :lol:
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So are we fantasy league-ing again?
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I knew there was someone I forgot to add :lol:
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Mad props to lienbacker Brian Banks. He's won himself a provisional contract at Atlanta and made his debut for the Falcons tonight. Such a great story.
Granted it's only pre-season but there have been some strong performances early. Baltimore absolutely raped the Bucaneers. Cincinnati strolled against the Falcons. Bengals are going to be strong this year. Cleveland rolled the Rams. Washington were terrible against the Titans. And Niners and Broncos scored 16 points between them in the most boring pre-season game of all time.
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afromanGT wrote:Mad props to lienbacker Brian Banks. He's won himself a provisional contract at Atlanta and made his debut for the Falcons tonight. Such a great story.
Granted it's only pre-season but there have been some strong performances early. Baltimore absolutely raped the Bucaneers. Cincinnati strolled against the Falcons. Bengals are going to be strong this year. Cleveland rolled the Rams. Washington were terrible against the Titans. And Niners and Broncos scored 16 points between them in the most boring pre-season game of all time.
Edited by afromanGT: 9/8/2013 02:19:44 PM Our defence was worrying but dont be surprised to see CJ go close to 2k again, run game will be strong.
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CJ could have a big year now that the Titans actually have some bulk to the O-line. Pity they're relying on Locker to make plays.
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So glad the packers picked up Vince Young, Graham Harrell is absolutely awful. The packers got into the red zone just once this morning and were shut out. What was he thinking throwing underneath to Jeremy Ross with Patrick Peterson marking him? #-o
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So nice of Mark Sanchez to make Ziggy Ansah so welcome to the NFL. Throws it straight to him and then doesnt tackle him when he has the chance. Nice guy.
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Rugland hit two from over 50 in that game too. Well in.
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Pats go down to a Megatron-less Detroit by 31 points. That's embarrassing.
In other good news for the Pats, Aaron Hernandez has been indicted on one count of first degree murder.
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Cuts coming up this weekend. Should be some interesting moves.
Aussies Brad Wing and Hayden Smith have been cut. Jesse Williams has been put on IR by the Seahawks (Which is incredibly rare for a 4th round draft pick).
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Calling it now, Ryan Fitzpatrick will be the Titans starter after the bye. Played alot better than Locker in preseason.
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Shame to hear about Williams, but it is obvious the Seahawks view him as a good player in the future.
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Shaker wrote:Calling it now, Ryan Fitzpatrick will be the Titans starter after the bye. Played alot better than Locker in preseason. Still not sure why the Bills cut him. Speaking of which, final cuts are tomorrow. Looking forward to seeing which 'big' names don't make it. And especially how the Packers backfield pans out.
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Peyton Manning 7 TDs. Freak of nature.
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Just take a moment to remember how much money the ravens paid Flacco. Commence laughter.
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Fuck I hate the Niners. Dirty as fuck. Not to mention the refs fucked us with no lube. As if you let a Niners player run off with the ball with the clock ticking!
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afromanGT wrote:Fuck I hate the Niners. Dirty as fuck. Not to mention the refs fucked us with no lube. As if you let a Niners player run off with the ball with the clock ticking! Jesus... You're awake early
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Eastern Glory wrote:afromanGT wrote:Fuck I hate the Niners. Dirty as fuck. Not to mention the refs fucked us with no lube. As if you let a Niners player run off with the ball with the clock ticking! Jesus... You're awake early Still awake after work.
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afromanGT wrote:Eastern Glory wrote:afromanGT wrote:Fuck I hate the Niners. Dirty as fuck. Not to mention the refs fucked us with no lube. As if you let a Niners player run off with the ball with the clock ticking! Jesus... You're awake early Still awake after work. Go to bed. My contribution to the thread is that my brother isn't coaching colts football anymore, and I'm not sure if he's playing.
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Just saw a picture on FB of a guy holding a sign in a NFL crowd saying "Tom Brady sits when he pees" :lol:
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Eastern Glory wrote:afromanGT wrote:Eastern Glory wrote:afromanGT wrote:Fuck I hate the Niners. Dirty as fuck. Not to mention the refs fucked us with no lube. As if you let a Niners player run off with the ball with the clock ticking! Jesus... You're awake early Still awake after work. Go to bed. I am in bed. Laptop, fuck yes. Quote:Just saw a picture on FB of a guy holding a sign in a NFL crowd saying "Tom Brady sits when he pees" It's funny coz it's true. Pats were pretty embarrassing. Big weekend for TE's: Davis bagged 2 TD's and 98 yards, Cook hauled in another 2 and 141 yards, Cameron had 108 and a TD for Browns, Thomas had 141 and 2 for Denver. The real talking point of the week is Jets beating the Bucs though. (Well that and the refs costing the Pack again).
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Shaker wrote:1-0 Steelers are shit. Giving up 5 sacks to the Titans...that O-line is going to get molested this season.
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This season is going to be a massive struggle. The only reason we will make the playoffs is due to a lack of competition from the rest of the AFC East. Ridley, jesus christ, how hard is it not to fumble the ball? Thank god Amendola played well, and Edelman stepped up big time, because the rest of the receiving core made mistakes. Hope Gronk gets better soon.
Speaking purely from an on-field perspective, the worst thing about Hernandez's murder charge is the fact we refused to pay Welker more money because the team had invested in Hernandez.
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Quote:Speaking purely from an on-field perspective, the worst thing about Hernandez's murder charge is the fact we refused to pay Welker more money because the team had invested in Hernandez. No, the reason they refused to pay Welker more is because he's 32 and wanted a multi-year deal worth double what the Pats thought he was worth and significantly more than his franchise tag value. They had 13m in cap room at the end of last season (Prior to Hernandez being cut) and they'd have had another 15m at the end of this season. Edited by afromanGT: 9/9/2013 01:04:30 PM
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So I've barely watched a game in years, but have sat down with the parents foxtel and am watching a replay of Phil Eagles vs Washington..
I am yet to see a QB line up NOT in shotgun. Is this normal? I don't remember the shotgun being such a go-to offensive play. Granted I'm only 10 mins in - not sure if they do that while the defense has fresh legs still or something.
All this talk about "The return of RG3" and his first two plays have ended up with the opposition getting the ball :lol:
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pv4 wrote:So I've barely watched a game in years, but have sat down with the parents foxtel and am watching a replay of Phil Eagles vs Washington..
I am yet to see a QB line up NOT in shotgun. Is this normal? I don't remember the shotgun being such a go-to offensive play. Granted I'm only 10 mins in - not sure if they do that while the defense has fresh legs still or something.
All this talk about "The return of RG3" and his first two plays have ended up with the opposition getting the ball :lol: You're looking at two offences with mobile QB's, they're going to line up in a 'pistol' offence (where the tailback blocks and the QB makes the rushing play) a lot more - so you'll see them show a shotgun formation to give the QB more time to fire a short pass or take-off under coverage. The Eagles offence played a great game. They spent something like 20 minutes on the field in the first half and got off 91 snaps (including FG's and punts) for the game which is insane. It just isn't NFL season until the Chargers choke like bitches.
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afromanGT wrote:pv4 wrote:So I've barely watched a game in years, but have sat down with the parents foxtel and am watching a replay of Phil Eagles vs Washington..
I am yet to see a QB line up NOT in shotgun. Is this normal? I don't remember the shotgun being such a go-to offensive play. Granted I'm only 10 mins in - not sure if they do that while the defense has fresh legs still or something.
All this talk about "The return of RG3" and his first two plays have ended up with the opposition getting the ball :lol: You're looking at two offences with mobile QB's, they're going to line up in a 'pistol' offence (where the tailback blocks and the QB makes the rushing play) a lot more - so you'll see them show a shotgun formation to give the QB more time to fire a short pass or take-off under coverage. The Eagles offence played a great game. They spent something like 20 minutes on the field in the first half and got off 91 snaps (including FG's and punts) for the game which is insane. It just isn't NFL season until the Chargers choke like bitches. Cool, cheers for clearing it up. The Eagles are really exciting to watch in offense - very fast flowing and Vick their QB has his shit together. The Redskins are struggling offensively - if I were the coach I'd be wanting to simplify and make high-percentage plays, they just seem to give the ball away too much and noticeably look like they have a rookie QB. What's the deal with calling a challenge/contest to a play (or whatever it is called - the three yellow bars underneath the team scores)? Do you get 3 a game or half, and if your call is right you get it back?
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That was RG3's first game back from major knee injury, they'll get stronger over the coming weeks. Glad we're playing them next week. Eagles will have a strong season now that their offensive line is back to full strength. Quote:What's the deal with calling a challenge/contest to a play (or whatever it is called - the three yellow bars underneath the team scores)? Do you get 3 a game or half, and if your call is right you get it back? The three bars under the scores are timeouts remaining. You get 3 per half. The challenges - you get 2 challenges per game. If you're correct with your previous two you win a third.
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Shattered redskins didn't get up. Why was RG3 playing ffs.
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TheSelectFew wrote:Shattered redskins didn't get up. Why was RG3 playing ffs. Because he's a #1 draft pick with huge positive influence on the team. Cousins is a decent QB but when you're playing a divisional game you're going to put your best players on the park.
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Fucks sake, forgot to record the Patriots game, and then just realized it was on. So mad, was really keen for it as well.
At least we're up atm 13-3.
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Our most experience receiver in this game is Edelman, who caught 21 passes last year. He has 8 so far in this match.
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Benjo wrote:Fucks sake, forgot to record the Patriots game, and then just realized it was on. So mad, was really keen for it as well.
At least we're up atm 13-3. If it makes you feel any better, the game was fucking shocking. I mean, granted Brady is missing his top 4-5 receivers from last season but losing it at these inexperienced guys doesn't help the cause and a great QB adjusts to the talent around him and lifts them.
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afromanGT wrote:Benjo wrote:Fucks sake, forgot to record the Patriots game, and then just realized it was on. So mad, was really keen for it as well.
At least we're up atm 13-3. If it makes you feel any better, the game was fucking shocking. I mean, granted Brady is missing his top 4-5 receivers from last season but losing it at these inexperienced guys doesn't help the cause and a great QB adjusts to the talent around him and lifts them. I wouldn't say he lost it, but his body language could definitely be better. Tbf, he admitted straight after the game he's got to improve that. Thank fuck for Julian Edelman. Outstanding game. I know the WR are young and I'm sure they will improve as the season went along, but there were so many dropped passes. It wasnt like they were hard catches, some of them Brady puts the all in the perfect spot and they werent looking, or had diverted from their route slightly, or just lost concentration. theres only so much Tom can do. If we weren't facing the Jets, we would have been punished.
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It wasn't just that, he was firing in some truly erratic passes too. And getting mad at them for dropping balls that you'd have been lucky if Gronk or Welker were able to land. There were a whole bunch of passes that the WR was pushed off his route and Brady didn't adjust. That's not on the WR, that's just bad football.
If Geno Smith wasn't so poor in the 4th quarter with those 3 picks - all three of which were underthrown to the inside shoulder - the Jets would have run away with it. Any team with a decent QB would have punished them. The next three weeks they've got Bucs, @Falcons and @Bengals, they could be in some real trouble.
Given that Brady's championship window has maybe 2-3 years left I'm surprised that they haven't re-signed Lloyd to give them a proper shot this year really.
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What a fucking dart by Brady. Excellent throw.
Big shot on Edelman earlier during the punt return. Atlanta were lucky not to be done for fair catch interference.
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Well, fuck. We went to sleep in the final five minutes and conceded 10 points, allowed an onside recover and fumbled at 4th and inches. Had been fantastic up to that point, but let them back in.
Talib and Thompkins were massive, and Edelman had a great second half. Blount was good too, that TD run was awesome. Tony Gonzalez, wow. The guy was unstoppable for the falcons tonight.
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Great start to the season, destroyed the Jets last night with Locker throwing 3 TDs before getting injured. I'd be more worried if we didn't have Fitz ready to take over. Toug 3 weeks coming up against West teams, Chiefs and Niners at LP Field and the Seahawks in Seattle before the bye. If we can go into the bye at about 4-3 ill be very happy.
On fantasy, as the first kickoffs started I decided to check my team, then put Nate Washington into my lineup, best decision ever, he's got me 10 points up with Brees still to play.
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I can't see you winning any of those games. They're all top calibre offences. These aren't QB's who you can expect to gift you 2 TD's from interceptions.
I'm worried about the Packers. Coming out of the Bye 1-2 with an in-form Detroit waiting for us and a Defence lacking confidence after the performance against Cincy, this could be a bad combination. I'm not sure we're even going to make play-offs this year.
I wish the Bengals would sort their shit out. Getting up over the Packers one week and then going down to the Browns a week later is pathetic.
I'm killing it this week in fantasy. Three valuable wins.
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Anyone know of some clips of 'big hits'.
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Shaker wrote:On fantasy, as the first kickoffs started I decided to check my team, then put Nate Washington into my lineup, best decision ever, he's got me 10 points up with Brees still to play. I can't believe you cut Sproles and then he bagged 22 points. Moreover, I can't believe I didn't jump on him when he was on Waivers. Quote:Anyone know of some clips of 'big hits'. Just search on youtube for "[year] NFL bigget hits".
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afromanGT wrote:Shaker wrote:On fantasy, as the first kickoffs started I decided to check my team, then put Nate Washington into my lineup, best decision ever, he's got me 10 points up with Brees still to play. I can't believe you cut Sproles and then he bagged 22 points. Moreover, I can't believe I didn't jump on him when he was on Waivers. Quote:Anyone know of some clips of 'big hits'. Just search on youtube for "[year] NFL bigget hits". Yeah I was pissed, looked up the Saints depth chart and saw he was 3rd choice and thought he was the best person to drop. Such a mistake.
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The thing you have to remember with Sproles is that even when he's third on the RB depthchart he also lines up in the slot receiver.
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Had 61 points on the bench and still scored 148 points. Big week.
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That was a quality showing by the Packers D. Lions look completely impotent without Megatron of course but a W is a W and that's now 23 years since Detroit have won in Wisconsin.
Terrell Pryor is in some fine form. Played another quality game against the chargers. No doube helped out by Phil Rivers throwing 3 picks. Almost as good as Eli Manning throwing 3 pick son 3 straight drives - doing thatagainst an Eagles D that's ranked one of the worst in the cop is just embarrassing.
Denver still playing like freaks. They could break a lot of records this season. Although having a draw strength of .430 is pretty pissant.
But the real talking point of the weekend is the Vikings coming back from the bye with a new QB. I really rate Josh Freeman and I think he can do huge things at Minnesota. He's a significant upgrade on Ponder at any rate, who throws like a poor man's Matt Ryan on a good day.
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2014 Pro Bowl uniforms have been announced. They look pretty good.
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nfl.com wrote:Adrian Peterson's son dies; alleged attacker in jail One of Adrian Peterson's sons passed away Friday. The 2-year-old died of injuries from an aggravated assault on Wednesday, Sioux Falls police confirmed to NFL Media.
The accused attacker, Joseph Robert Patterson, 27, was charged with aggravated assault and aggravated battery of an infant in Sioux Falls, S.D., police spokesman Sam Clemens said. Patterson was in a relationship with the child's mother at the time, Clemens said.
In light of the boy's death, the charges against Patterson will be reviewed and additional changes might be added. Patterson is being held in the Minnehaha County Jail on $750,000 cash bond.
Clemens told NFL Media earlier on Friday that the child was in critical condition after sustaining head injuries that appeared to be consistent with abuse. Police did not name the boy, but Peterson and his father, Nelson, both spoke Friday about the terrible situation.
"Thank you to my family, my fans and fans of other teams for their support," Peterson wrote on Twitter. "The NFL is a fraternity of brothers and I am thankful for the tweets, phone calls and text messages from my fellow players. God Bless everyone and thank u so much."
Peterson missed practice Thursday, but the running back returned to the Minnesota Vikings' facility on Friday. He indicated to the media that he planned to play in Sunday's game. Peterson's comments to the media came before news of his son's passing became public.
"I should start off by saying I really appreciate all the support that I've been receiving from fans (and) the Vikings organization," Peterson said Friday afternoon. "This is a private matter, and I would ask you all to please just respect my privacy and not ask at all about the situation at hand. Thanks."
The news is absolutely heartbreaking. We send our condolences to Peterson and his family at this unimaginable time. Absolute tragedy. My deepest sympathies go out to the guy's family.
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Saw that. RIP. Horrible stuff.
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The packers outlast the Ravens 19-17. Holy crap the ravens played dirty. Lots of low tackles and it looks like they've probably ended Randall Cobb's season. Elam should have been ejected for diving with the helmet. With Jones going down injured too we've only got Boykin and Nelson fit at receiver and Boykin is arse. Might have to make a trade. Fortunately AJ Hawk played like a man possessed - 3 sacks and 10 tackes. The team finished with 5 sacks and a blocked punt. Great effort if they hadn't muffed the recovery of the punt.
Other than that Bengals got up in OT over the Bills, big game from Green. Detroit came from behind against Cleveland, Megatron was average. St Louis compounded Schaub's woes, extending their losing streak to 4. Kansas remain unbeaten against Oakland. Peterson looked out of sorts and Carolina won emphatically. Steelers got over a lacklustre Jets team. And Philly rolled the Bucs despite V-Jax hauling in 2 TD's and 116 yards - there was a pretty questionable DBC ruling in that game too.
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Proud we took the Seahawks to 4 quarters in CenturyLink. Sounding like the reason we didnt win is the shocking offence, cant believe im saying this (but glad i am), we are really missing Jake Locker.
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Shaker wrote:Proud we took the Seahawks to 4 quarters in CenturyLink. Sounding like the reason we didnt win is the shocking offence, cant believe im saying this (but glad i am), we are really missing Jake Locker. That game was over so quickly because it was such a run-heavy game. It was boring as fuck. That fumbled fumble was horrible too. 32 Rushes and 31 passes by Seattle.
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Watching the Seahawks game now.
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They could have picked a better game to replay.
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Brady <3 Saints choked a bit though. I mean, Brady throws an interception with a few minutes left and the Saints up by 4. Tried to play conservative, but Chandler Jones came up with a massive play to bring down Brees. that final drive, Edelman dropped a couple he's been catching recently, but thank god we got there in the end.
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I'm not one to give props to the Pats often but to hold Graham to 0 yards is a hell of an effort. The last time he went an entire half without a catch was against the Packers in Week 1 of 2011 so holding him down the entire game deserves props.
That Pats D is looking pretty damn mean this year. That pass rush of Jones, Hightower, Mayo and Spikes is intimidating. They just have to find something to compliment Talib & Arrington - there's so much space over the middle even Tony Romo could find his man.
There appears to be a bit of ill-will going on for the offensive side of the ball though with Gronk training all week and then not playing. They're going to have to deal with that ASAP (not that I don't think Belichick won't) and get him back in the action if they expect to make a serious play-off run with Amendola and Edelman leading the wideouts.
The other main talking point of the weekend is whether the Falcons (as they continue to slide) should return the favour and trade Tony Gonzalez to Kansas in order to give him some shot at a 'bowl in his final season. Kansas could probably use the added depth to their receiving corps but even then by the time a trade is viable will Fasano be back from injury? And are the Falcons ready to admit defeat in their season?
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Saints have the bye which means Brees is on the bench and im starting Tony Romo. That could be both good and bad. Sitting Chris Johnson, been terrible recently and playing against the Niners isnt gonna help that, also hoping the Gronk is back this week, the Rams had 2 TE's score TDs on the weekend, and Cook wasnt one of them.
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Pretty annoyed that the Saints have a bye so I have to play Jordan Cameron when he's up against the Packers. That said, we're so riddled with injuries that he could well put up some big yards.
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Aaron Rodgers is so good he can make Jarrett Boykin look good :lol:
And now we've lost Jermichel Finley to injury as well :(
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Owner and Founder of the Tennessee Titans Bud Adams died this morning.
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Condolences to the Titans organisation.
Peterson looks so very out of sorts. Freeman had a shocker today too.
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That Packers run game. Another good victory to take us to 5-2 and some very winable games coming up too.
How about that performance from Megatron though?! 7 yards shy of breaking the single game receiving record.
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Right when I thought I couldn't hate Golden Tate any more...
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Went to watch the Newcastle Cobras take on the Bondi Raiders on Sat night in Newy. Was heaps of fun! Will definately be heading back to a game
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Nick Foles. 22-28. 408 Yards. 7 touchdowns. Take a bow son.
Also, Pats offence (finally) clicked tonight, Brady currently 22-33 for 400+ yards and 4 touchdowns. Over 600 yards of offence total.
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Huge final Quarter from the Pats. Big performance from the Eagles too. Not so sure about playing them in 2 weeks now.
Brees had a shocker against the Jets, Redskins look like they're clicking into gear, Bucs choked HARD.
In 5 fantasy leagues I've scored a total of 3 TD's this week (Still have Forte and Rodgers to come in most of them). Shocker.
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Fark, Rodgers out of the game with a shoulder injury and our backup is Seneca Wallace. Run game needs to step up big time.
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That was just horrible to watch. Seneca Wallace is terrible. We're going to get destroyed next week by the Eagles if Rodgers can't play.
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afromanGT wrote:That was just horrible to watch. Seneca Wallace is terrible. We're going to get destroyed next week by the Eagles if Rodgers can't play. I can't image how bad Vince Young must have been in the pre-season that Wallace was considered a better option.
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f1worldchamp wrote:afromanGT wrote:That was just horrible to watch. Seneca Wallace is terrible. We're going to get destroyed next week by the Eagles if Rodgers can't play. I can't image how bad Vince Young must have been in the pre-season that Wallace was considered a better option. I thought Vince Young was really good in the pre-season games we saw from him. Definitely better than Wallace was today. Although Wallace has never had a first team snap in training or otherwise.
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Shit. Quote:GREEN BAY, Wis. — Aaron Rodgers has a fractured left collarbone and the Packers’ franchise quarterback doesn’t know how long he will be out. More definitive scans today but initial tests showed small fracture in Aaron Rodgers' collarbone that could sideline him about three weeks.
Rodgers offered details of the injury Tuesday on his weekly radio show on 540-AM ESPN. The 2011 NFL MVP was hurt after getting sacked by Shea McClellin on a third-down play during the Packers’ first series while he was scrambling outside the pocket. He hurt his left, non-throwing shoulder. "I do have a fractured collarbone. That’s a significant injury," Rodgers said. "We’ll know more about the severity and the timetable later this week."
Packers QB Aaron Rodgers won't require surgery for fractured collarbone. Source says plan to is let heal, treatment, hope he plays again RS
Rodgers said he was holding out hope he would heal quickly. "In this case, it was considerably more pain than I’ve felt in a long time," he added. Rodgers got emotional at one point during the 15-minute appearance when he described the reception he got from fans as he walked back to sideline in green warmups in the third quarter. "We put our bodies on the line. We do it because we love this game. But when I walked back out on that field — I’m getting a little choked up here just thinking about it," Rodgers said, "that was one of the top five moments of my career there." Rodgers is the Packers’ Mr. Reliable. Since taking over for the equally dependable Brett Favre in 2008, Rodgers has only missed a game due to injury once — on Dec. 19, 2010, for a concussion. On a team that has been rocked all season by injuries, Rodgers had been a constant and the Packers had reeled off four straight wins despite being without top players like linebacker Clay Matthews (thumb), Randall Cobb (leg) and Jermichael Finley (neck). Losing Rodgers might be the most devastating blow of all. The 27-20 loss to the Bears left Green Bay in a three-way tie atop the NFC North with Chicago and the Detroit Lions, who were idle last week. The offence now falls into the hands of backup Seneca Wallace, who finished 11 for 19 for 114 yards and an interception. The Packers host the Philadelphia Eagles on Sunday.
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Given Wallace's performance on MNF, expect to see a frantic phone call to Matt Flynn (more likely) or Vince Young (less likely) - guys who know at least parts of the play book and can actually make plays with this offence.
We added Jermichel Finley to the season ending IR yesterday but took the opportunity to activate Sherrod, which doesn't look good either after what happened to Nick Collins. This season's gone ka-fluey :(
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Well, we can kiss this season goodbye. Unless we some sort of incredible run when Rodgers returns. Not sure why we are asking our 3rd string QB to throw 38 times.
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f1worldchamp wrote:Well, we can kiss this season goodbye. Unless we some sort of incredible run when Rodgers returns. Not sure why we are asking our 3rd string QB to throw 38 times. Because we were behind and needed to move the ball quickly. Frankly, we got dicked over hardcore. That was really, really unlucky we didn't pick off that first Eagles TD. Losing our second string QB and having to go with the third choice was woeful. And that Nelson TD with 6 minutes left should have stood. Packers season is done for. All these injuries is ridiculous. Hopefully Wallace being injured means we'll cut him and bring back Young.
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Both Jacksonville and Tampa Bay won this week so we've got no team that's winless now.
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Gronkowski gets interfered with on the final play in the end zone. Flag thrown, but officials decide to end the game anyway. Can someone explain why the flag was ignored?
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Gronk wasnt getting near the ball probably played a part.
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Shaker wrote:Gronk wasnt getting near the ball probably played a part. It was thrown in his direction. He may not have caught it, but had Kuechly not had his hands all over him and pushing him back, he probably would've been able to make a play at the ball. He would've been able to come back and at least challenge for the throw.
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Benjo wrote:Shaker wrote:Gronk wasnt getting near the ball probably played a part. It was thrown in his direction. He may not have caught it, but had Kuechly not had his hands all over him and pushing him back, he probably would've been able to make a play at the ball. He would've been able to come back and at least challenge for the throw. Its definitely pass interference but refs dont want to throw their flags in those situations at that time of the game unless it 100% gonna be a TD.
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Shaker wrote:Benjo wrote:Shaker wrote:Gronk wasnt getting near the ball probably played a part. It was thrown in his direction. He may not have caught it, but had Kuechly not had his hands all over him and pushing him back, he probably would've been able to make a play at the ball. He would've been able to come back and at least challenge for the throw. Its definitely pass interference but refs dont want to throw their flags in those situations at that time of the game unless it 100% gonna be a TD. This. It gives the Pats another snap regardless of how much time is on the clock, so unless he's hit and spills the ball you're almost NEVER going to see a PI call in that scenario, especially when you're talking about overturning an interception. It sucks sometimes but the refs made the right call. It's not like they missed three illegal shifts in one game or something.
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Drew Brees only getting 18 fantasy points against the Falcons? Ugh
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Watching Jimmy Graham I couldn't help but think of the football goal falling on Tommy Sherman in Daria.
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Shaker wrote:Drew Brees only getting 18 fantasy points against the Falcons? Ugh I'm playing in a PPC/PPR league and he scored 41.52 points. Fucked as. Edited by afromanGT: 22/11/2013 10:19:26 PM
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I have no fucking clue what's going on tonight. Errors galore on both sides of the ball. Denver are 24-0 up in Foxborough. Just saw the Manning throw a screen pass that took them from 3rd and 20 to a first down. Absolute garbage play from us so far, and it doesn't look like it will improve.
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Flynn must start next week. Dont get a W and we are cooked for the season. Proves what damage losing a frnachise QB can do.
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WHAT A FUCKING COMEBACK WIN!
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Welker still winning games for the Pats.
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scotty21 wrote:Flynn must start next week. Dont get a W and we are cooked for the season. Proves what damage losing a frnachise QB can do. Flynn played a great game for us. At least next season we'll have Flynn on back-up and won't have the same problems we've had this season. How bloody good is Jordy Nelson? To have 50+ yards every week with Wallace, Tolzien and Flynn throwing to him. He'd be going to the pro bowl if Rodgers wasn't injured.
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What the hell is going on? I'm surprised Gomez I still relevant.
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That packers game was horrible to watch. The O-line giving up 7 sacks was dreadful.
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Packers snap their losing streak 22-21 over the Falcons. Hopefully Rodgers is back next week. The Lions result went out way with them losing to the Eagles.
Kansas City absolutely destroyed Washington in every way, Cincy reminded people that they can actually play football sometimes. Not sure what the actual fuck happened in the Pats game.
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We were 21-10 over the Broncos just before halftime, its now 51-28. Our offence cant keep our defence off the field, Denver are close to 40 minutes in possession.
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Shaker wrote:We were 21-10 over the Broncos just before halftime, its now 51-28. Our offence cant keep our defence off the field, Denver are close to 40 minutes in possession. \T'all got blown off the park. The Niners v Seahawks game was quality. Great defensive display.
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5 touchdowns in the last 2 minutes of the fourth quarter game between Minnesota and Baltimore. What the actual fuck? Quote:Not sure what the actual fuck happened in the Pats game Neither do I. 14 points in the last 2 minutes and a great onside recovery to get us the win was brilliant...but we shouldn't be 13 points down to Cleveland at home in the first place. Pretty poor performance from us from what I've heard, missed the game. We're really missing Mayo and Wilfork on defense. Meanwhile...Gronk has torn his ACL, so that's him gone for the season. We're really gonna miss him, we've been a lot better on offence since he's returned. Wouldn't be surprised to see us go after a TE in the draft or free agency to provide cover for Gronk/play alongside him ala Hernandez.
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Benjo wrote:5 touchdowns in the last 2 minutes of the fourth quarter game between Minnesota and Baltimore. What the actual fuck? Quote:Not sure what the actual fuck happened in the Pats game Neither do I. 14 points in the last 2 minutes and a great onside recovery to get us the win was brilliant...but we shouldn't be 13 points down to Cleveland at home in the first place. Pretty poor performance from us from what I've heard, missed the game. We're really missing Mayo and Wilfork on defense. Meanwhile...Gronk has torn his ACL, so that's him gone for the season. We're really gonna miss him, we've been a lot better on offence since he's returned. Wouldn't be surprised to see us go after a TE in the draft or free agency to provide cover for Gronk/play alongside him ala Hernandez. It's certainly not beneath the Pats organisation to try and persuade Tony Gonzalez to walk out on Atlanta in pursuit of a ring.
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afromanGT wrote:Benjo wrote:5 touchdowns in the last 2 minutes of the fourth quarter game between Minnesota and Baltimore. What the actual fuck? Quote:Not sure what the actual fuck happened in the Pats game Neither do I. 14 points in the last 2 minutes and a great onside recovery to get us the win was brilliant...but we shouldn't be 13 points down to Cleveland at home in the first place. Pretty poor performance from us from what I've heard, missed the game. We're really missing Mayo and Wilfork on defense. Meanwhile...Gronk has torn his ACL, so that's him gone for the season. We're really gonna miss him, we've been a lot better on offence since he's returned. Wouldn't be surprised to see us go after a TE in the draft or free agency to provide cover for Gronk/play alongside him ala Hernandez. It's certainly not beneath the Pats organisation to try and persuade Tony Gonzalez to walk out on Atlanta in pursuit of a ring. He had his shot at a ring last year, he won't play on next tear. Edited by benjo: 10/12/2013 01:14:47 PM
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This year was meant to be his last year so he could have one last tilt at a ring. But injuries to the offence and a complete lack of running game put an end to that. I can see Pats trying to buy him out of the contract in order to have one last crack in New England.
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Defence optional this week as KC put up 56 points against Oakland (when will teams learn that Ed Ried is playing the same dink and dunk offence he was at Philly?) thanks to 5 TD's from Jamaal Charles, Minnesota put up 48 points over Philly and even Arizona score 37. In fact, only 2 games had below 27 point scored by the winning team. Huge week for offences.
Packers rally from 23 points down at HT to win by 1 over Dallas. It just wouldn't be December without Tony Romo choking and throwing a pick with 1.30 on the clock.
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Andy Dalton has to be the least consistent player in the league. Absolutely torched the Vikes this morning.
So glad Philly thrashed the Bears this afternoon and kept the Packers play-off hopes alive. We were shocking this morning. So many little mistakes, the O-line was poor and we're still struggling to make plays in the secondary. Not sure which is the bigger pressing issue in the draft but we might have to make a move in free agency to fix one or the other if we're to make a legitimate Super Bowl tilt next year.
I loved how the Ravens capitulated after being talked up as "the team nobody wants to play" all week.
The Colts showed how to beat the Chiefs, jamming the box and forcing Smith to throw deep. Even though Luck was average they won quite easily.
But the really stunning thing this morning was that Tony Romo didn't choke on the final drive and actually won a game.
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Dem Packers. Nothing better than making the Bears cry. That Boykin TD :lol: I'd feel bad if it was any other team. Way to welcome back Rodgers and Cobb too - 48 yard TD to win the game. Gorgeous.
Everything else this morning was routine - Cowboys choked, Redskins sucked, Bengals turned up, Saints lit up Bucs...
Browns have fired Chudzinski and Vikes have sacked Fraizer already.
Play-offs looks thus: Saints @ Eagles Niners @ Packers
Lower seed @ Seattle Higher seed @ Panthers
Chiefs @ Colts Chargers @ Bengals
Lower seed @ Denver Higher seed @ Patriots
I'm worried that we've got the Niners. All Falcons had to do was kick one more FG and we'd be hosting Carolina and I'd feel much better.
Should be a delightful choke-off in the Chargers @ Bengals game.
I'm picking week two to be Packers v Seattle and Eagles v Panthers in the NFC (Brees in weather is awful), Bengals v Patriots and Chiefs v Broncos (Rivers to out choke Dalton).
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That loss this morning still stings. It was always going to be an up-hill battle when we lost Sam Shields and Mike Neal but to push them all the way and then have Micah Hyde go OVER THE BALL when they kicked the winning Field Goal sucked. Just not our year with injuries and having no real talent at safety.
Andy Dalton must be one of the biggest chokers of all time, to lose at home to a Phil Rivers lead Chargers team. They're 1 from 16 in prime time since he became starter. I don't know if he'll be in a job next season. Michael Vick could lead them to a title.
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Quote:The Baltimore Sun Updated at 4:08 am The San Diego Chargers completed the biggest upset of the NFL's wild-card round, but one man in Pennsylvania is determined to challenge their viability in the playoffs. Daniel L. Spuck of Mercer, Pa., has filed a motion against the NFL to the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Pennsylvania for "a temporary emergency injunction" on the basis that the Chargers should not have been in the postseason because of a missed call in the Week 17 game between San Diego and Kansas City. The filing came before the first round of the playoffs. Officials in that game failed to call an illegal alignment formation on the Chargers that would have allowed Kansas City kicker Ryan Succop a re-kick of a 41-yard field goal he missed with eight seconds remaining. Had he made the kick, San Diego's loss would have sent the Pittsburgh Steelers to the postseason as the final wild-card team. Instead, San Diego won in overtime and then beat the favored Cincinnati Bengals on Sunday. The Chargers face the AFC's top-seeded Denver Broncos this Sunday. In the filing, Spuck suggested some possible remedies for the missed call. The NFL could suspend the playoffs for a week to 10 days, allow Succop to re-kick the field goal, or let the Steelers play the Chargers at a neutral site to determine who plays on. Online court records, which show that the suit was filed via inmate mail from the Pennsylvania corrections department, say the plaintiff has not submitted a filing fee or requested a waiver. http://touch.baltimoresun.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-78820662/ :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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:lol: where was this guy when we got that shitty call against Seattle 2 seasons back?
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That final play from Colston yesterday was disgusting. All he had to do is step out of bounds and he decides to attempt a lateral switch? #-o I really hope that wasn't a Sean Payton trick play.
Great performance by the Patriots though. They're looking very strong with LeGarrett Blount's run game and a defence that can still make plays even with those injuries.
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Broncos do it in style over the Pats. Brady was awful.
Seahawks get literally every call going their way against the Niners and win with a pick in the end zone with 30 seconds left. Richard Sherman decides to remind everyone how much of a massive cunt he is.
So it's a Denver v Seattle 'Bowl. Come on Broncos!
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afromanGT wrote:Broncos do it in style over the Pats. Brady was awful. No, Brady wasn't awful. Brady was ok, but he had no help from the rest of the team. Credit to Denver, they outclassed us in every area. Their pass protection was top notch, ours was average. As a result, Peyton was able to play his usual game and tore us apart. Brady had nowhere near as good protection, and the Denver pass rush really troubled us. Their WR had a field day against our secondary. With Talib out for most of the game, we really struggled. So many big plays given up by the DB. Our running game was pish, it was never going to be easy against the Broncos D though. They, on the other hand, killed us with the run, just like they did in the 1st half of the game in Foxboro. Disappointing to be outplayed like that in the AFC championship game...but if you'd told me 2 weeks into the season that we'd lose Mayo and Wilfork for the season early on, that Gronkowski would suffer another serious injury after coming back into the team, yet we'd still finish in 2nd spot in the AFC, be one game away from the Super Bowl only to be beaten by the best team in the league (who we beat earlier in they year in one of the best comebacks in team history), then i'd be extremely happy with that. Still, 2nd consecutive year Talib has gone down in the first quarter of the AFC championship and missed the rest of the game. We could have used him today.
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Brady missed a wide open Amendola in the end zone twice and overthrew simple pocket passes. He was awful.
The Pats O-line was average as well. Gave up an early hit on Brady and that threw him for the entire first half. There was no protection for the running game and no real protection for Brady. He got hit something like 9 or 10 times.
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[youtube]lsdc50thDl4[/youtube]
Richard Sherman showing what a classless douchebag he is.
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afromanGT wrote:Brady missed a wide open Amendola in the end zone twice and overthrew simple pocket passes. He was awful. 5 missed passes in a game doesn't mean you're having an awful game.
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Nothing worse than a sore winner.
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That was a pretty shit Super Bowl :lol:
The refs killed the game in the first half with their usual Seahawks bias. Epic missed Pass Interference and Intentional Grounding calls which would have given the ball back to Denver with good field position and instead they end in TD drives for Seattle. #-o I can't wait until Sherman, Wilson, Tate and Lynch all go off contract at seasons end and Seattle's salary cap is boned. I can't stand the pricks.
Peyton choking like a cheap whore didn't help Denver either.
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Such an anticlimax. Peyton very poor, but his O-Line was horrible while Seattle's pass rush was on!
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Shaker wrote:Such an anticlimax. Peyton very poor, but his O-Line was horrible while Seattle's pass rush was on! That was their third choice Center - and it showed. They had bugger all YAC all game. The fucked thing is that their defence kept Seattle to something like 45 yards in the first half.
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Holy shit Free Agency is hectic this year.
Talib to Broncos on a 6 year 57m deal. TJ Ward to Broncos, details not disclosed yet. (pretty sus on the Broncos salary cap situation right now and apparently they want Ware too!) Byrd to Saints, 6 years 56m. Verner to Bucs, 4 years 26m. Lamarr Houston to Bears 5 years 35m.
Bears release Peppers Steelers release Woodley Jets release Holmes Jonathan Martin traded to Niners for an undisclosed pick.
Packers left with their dicks hanging out in Free Agency once again. We really should be pushing for Woodley and Ware.
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Someone needs to check the Broncos books, especially with Ware most likely heading there. As for the rest, Saints did well to get Byrd. Also amazed that Verner got paid half as much as Talib and even more that we didnt match it.
I expect Woodley to be in Nashville.
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Not surprised Talib left, the Pats aren't a big fan of big contracts for players like Talib. Lovely to see him take a shot at us once he arrived in Denver :roll:
We have signed Revis as his replacement, which isn't a bad piece of business. On a one-year deal though?
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Wilfork asks for release, would be perfect for us in our new 3-4 scheme.
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Benjo wrote:We have signed Revis as his replacement, which isn't a bad piece of business. On a one-year deal though? It's ok, Revis is a cunt so you'll be sick of him by mid season. Shaker wrote:Someone needs to check the Broncos books, especially with Ware most likely heading there. As for the rest, Saints did well to get Byrd. Also amazed that Verner got paid half as much as Talib and even more that we didnt match it. It's clear to me that they're over the cap and using the roll-over space, and thus are throwing everything at winning a ring because this will force Manning to retire at the end of the season. Nicks has joined the colts on a one year deal. Steve Smith has landed in Baltimore. Packers have lost Dietrich Smith to the Bucs. Packers re-sign BJ Raji to a one year 4m deal (he turned down 8m last summer). Tillman has returned to Chicago. As if the Dolphins didn't have enough man management issues Cortland Finnigan has joined them on a 2 year deal. Patriots are stocking up at CB with Brandon Browner as well. This is one of the deepest FA markets in years and the Packers have done absolutely nothing. So disappointing.
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Charlie Whitehurst and Michael Oher signed for the Titans yesterday. One is a career backup QB who's only plus is that he knows Whiz's system and the other is the most penalised Tackle in football.
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Shaker wrote:Charlie Whitehurst and Michael Oher signed for the Titans yesterday. One is a career backup QB who's only plus is that he knows Whiz's system and the other is the most penalised Tackle in football.  Oher might be penalised a bit, but he's also a flexible tackle who's been making Joe Flacco look good.
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afromanGT wrote:Shaker wrote:Charlie Whitehurst and Michael Oher signed for the Titans yesterday. One is a career backup QB who's only plus is that he knows Whiz's system and the other is the most penalised Tackle in football.  Oher might be penalised a bit, but he's also a flexible tackle who's been making Joe Flacco look good. Fills a need for us as well after we cut Dave Stewart. He'll do for now. All we need is pass rush and to get a trade for CJ.
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Shaker wrote:afromanGT wrote:Shaker wrote:Charlie Whitehurst and Michael Oher signed for the Titans yesterday. One is a career backup QB who's only plus is that he knows Whiz's system and the other is the most penalised Tackle in football.  Oher might be penalised a bit, but he's also a flexible tackle who's been making Joe Flacco look good. Fills a need for us as well after we cut Dave Stewart. He'll do for now. All we need is pass rush and to get a trade for CJ. I figure you guys will move for Wilfork. Surprised you didn't make Mike Neal and Lamarr Woodley an offer.
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afromanGT wrote:Shaker wrote:afromanGT wrote:Shaker wrote:Charlie Whitehurst and Michael Oher signed for the Titans yesterday. One is a career backup QB who's only plus is that he knows Whiz's system and the other is the most penalised Tackle in football.  Oher might be penalised a bit, but he's also a flexible tackle who's been making Joe Flacco look good. Fills a need for us as well after we cut Dave Stewart. He'll do for now. All we need is pass rush and to get a trade for CJ. I figure you guys will move for Wilfork. Surprised you didn't make Mike Neal and Lamarr Woodley an offer. Woodley was coming to Nashville after Oakland, unfortunately he never left Oakland.
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Julius Peppers joins the Packers on a 3 year 30m deal. Pretty excited even if he is a bit old he's still elite. Tracy Porter has joined the Redskins (lol). Ben Tate is now a Cleveland Brown. Julian Edelman has returned to New England.
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Good to see Edelman return to us. Sad to see Wilfork will probably be moving on. He's been an incredible servant and we really missed him last year.
Emmanuel Sanders has also joined Denver, to offset the move of Decker to the Jets.
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Quote:Emmanuel Sanders has also joined Denver, to offset the move of Decker to the Jets. They must be so far over the cap it's not funny.
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Donald Trump, Jon Bon Jovi, Jim Kelly Among Prospective Buyers Of Bills by Sam Galanis on Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 8:56PM Donald TrumpWhat do Donald Trump, Jon Bon Jovi, and Jim Kelly have in common? All of their names have come up as prospective buyers of the Buffalo Bills, as reported by The Associated Press. The future of the Bills has been up in the air following the death of owner Ralph Wilson. His wishes to sell the team rather than pass it on to his family opened the doors for many potential buyers (Erie County deputy executive Richard Tobe told the AP there could be as many as 10) and also made relocating the team a possibility. Buffalo is the NFL’s second-smallest market. Trump, who has been very vocal about wanting to own the Bills, has said that he would keep the team in Buffalo. Jim Kelly, whose brother Dan Kelly said he would still actively pursue purchasing the team despite his battle with sinus cancer, spent his entire NFL career with the Bills. One could assume Kelly would also keep the team in Buffalo. Bon Jovi is the biggest question of the three. Bon Jovi is linked to Larry Tanenbaum, chairman of Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment, which controls the Toronto Raptors and Toronto Maple Leafs. If the two were to purchase the Bills, they would have to move the team to Toronto, as NFL ownership rules do not allow owners to control other major sports teams in separate markets. However, relocating the team under the terms of its current 10-year lease at Ralph Wilson Stadium would incur a $400 million penalty. Formal bidding for the Bills will begin once Wilson’s estate hires a firm to reassess the value of the franchise and oversee negotiation. http://nesn.com/2014/04/donald-trump-jon-bon-jovi-jim-kelly-among-prospective-buyers-of-bills/
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Bon Jovi is only being linked because he said years ago that he always wanted to own an NFL team. Donald Trump is the only one quoted as having declared interest in the franchise.
This year's off season has been crazy as all hell.
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Not long till the draft now, anyone done a mock?
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Shaker wrote:Not long till the draft now, anyone done a mock? I'll do mine this week but I've got it going Clowney, Watkins, Manziel. That's only if Rams don't deal away the second pick to Vikings who want manziel.
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Thinking: 1. Houston - Clowney. Need a QB but Clowney is special. 2. Rams - Mack 3. Jags - Bortles 4. Browns - Manziel 5. Raiders - Watkins 6. Falcons - Robinson 7. Bucs - M. Evans 8. Vikings - Bridgewater 9. Bills - Ebron 10. Lions - Clinton-Dix 11. Titans - Barr (Would be happy with either this or trading down)
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1. Houston - Clowney 2. Rams - Watkins 3. Jags - Manziel 4. Browns - Bortles 5. Raiders - Matthews 6. Falcons - Mack 7. Bucs - Evans 8. Vikings - Bridgewater 9. Bills - Robinson 10. Lions - Barr
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Shaker wrote:Michael Oher Is that The Blind Side guy?
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afromanGT wrote:Bon Jovi is only being linked because he said years ago that he always wanted to own an NFL team. Donald Trump is the only one quoted as having declared interest in the franchise.
This year's off season has been crazy as all hell. I’ve read a lot of articles in Toronto-based media about moving the Bills to Toronto permanently, mostly from the point of view of the affect on the Toronto Argonauts and the CFL. I doubt Bon jovi would be anything more than a minority partner but there is a lot of noise around the MLSE bid.
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pv4 wrote:Shaker wrote:Michael Oher Is that The Blind Side guy? Yeh
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f1worldchamp wrote:afromanGT wrote:Bon Jovi is only being linked because he said years ago that he always wanted to own an NFL team. Donald Trump is the only one quoted as having declared interest in the franchise.
This year's off season has been crazy as all hell. I’ve read a lot of articles in Toronto-based media about moving the Bills to Toronto permanently, mostly from the point of view of the affect on the Toronto Argonauts and the CFL. I doubt Bon jovi would be anything more than a minority partner but there is a lot of noise around the MLSE bid. Moving them to Toronto would cost over $400m just to break the lease on their stadium. Won't happen.
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afromanGT wrote:f1worldchamp wrote:afromanGT wrote:Bon Jovi is only being linked because he said years ago that he always wanted to own an NFL team. Donald Trump is the only one quoted as having declared interest in the franchise.
This year's off season has been crazy as all hell. I’ve read a lot of articles in Toronto-based media about moving the Bills to Toronto permanently, mostly from the point of view of the affect on the Toronto Argonauts and the CFL. I doubt Bon jovi would be anything more than a minority partner but there is a lot of noise around the MLSE bid. Moving them to Toronto would cost over $400m just to break the lease on their stadium. Won't happen. Doesn't mean they can't buy the team and wait out the lease while they build a suitable stadium in Toronto. MLSE have the dough to make it happen.
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f1worldchamp wrote:afromanGT wrote:f1worldchamp wrote:afromanGT wrote:Bon Jovi is only being linked because he said years ago that he always wanted to own an NFL team. Donald Trump is the only one quoted as having declared interest in the franchise.
This year's off season has been crazy as all hell. I’ve read a lot of articles in Toronto-based media about moving the Bills to Toronto permanently, mostly from the point of view of the affect on the Toronto Argonauts and the CFL. I doubt Bon jovi would be anything more than a minority partner but there is a lot of noise around the MLSE bid. Moving them to Toronto would cost over $400m just to break the lease on their stadium. Won't happen. Doesn't mean they can't buy the team and wait out the lease while they build a suitable stadium in Toronto. MLSE have the dough to make it happen. Upon further reading, a 10 year lease was agreed in 2012 with a $400m buy out progressively decreasing to $20m in 2019.
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1. Houston Texans: Jadeveon Clowney (DE): The best player in the draft, the Texans can wait until the second round to pick a QB like McCarron or Garoppolo to cover QB when they've got the prospect of Watt and Clowney opposite each other.
2. St Louis Rams (From Washington Redskins): Sammy Watkins (WR) - The top WR in the class, they need a true #1 wide-out for Bradford and unless a team offers something special for the #2 pick or Bradford they've got no reason to take Manziel.
3. Jacksonville Jaguars: Johnny Manziel (QB): Having a reliable guy under center who can take advantage of Blackmon, Shorts and Denard will make huge differences in Jacksonville.
4. Cleveland Browns: Blake Bortles (QB): A prototypical franchise QB, with the strength of the Browns O-line he's the perfect fit.
5. Oakland Raiders: Greg Robinson (OT): After losing Veldheer they need a blind-side OT and Robinson is the "pick him and forget the position for a decade" type player.
6. Atlanta Falcons: Khalil Mack (OLB): despite pressing concerns at TE they've also got issues in the pass rush and Mack is too good a talent to ignore.
7. Tampa Bay Bucaneers: Mike Evans (WR): V-Jax needs help. There's nobody drawing defenders and the departure of Mike Williams only makes that worse. Evans has the potential to be a long-term #1 WR with size and speed. Questions surrounding his route running will have to be answered.
8. Minnesota Vikings: Teddy Bridgewater (QB): The Vikes GM has come out saying the decision to take a QB in the first round is a tough one but they can't persist with Ponder. Bridgewater has the potential to become an elite QB and help them challenge for the NFC north.
9. Buffalo Bills: Jake Matthews (OT): The Bills gave up 48 sacks last season, 4th most in the league and that line needs to be consolidated.
10. Detroit Lions: Anthony Barr (OLB): There's a lot of needs on the defence for the Lions and they need to get more pressure on the QB - they only had 33 sacks last season - third worst in the league.
11. Tennessee Titans: James Gilbert (CB): There's a concern about the amount of depth at Corner for the Titans this season. McCourten aside they face being badly exposed down the sidelines.
12. New York Giants: Eric Ebron (TE): A glaring need in a side which used to have so many weapons on offence.
13. St Louis Rams: Ha-Ha Clinton-Dix (S): There's a big hole over the middle of the field and a big play-making Safety like C-D is exactly what they need. I'm hoping the packers can trade up to #12 and nab him because he's a huge talent.
14. Chicago Bears: Aaron Donald (DT): The Bears have bulked up their pass rush and now they need someone to partner Paea who can push around and bully the pocket. At 6'1" and 285lb questions remain about Donald's size however.
15. Pittsburgh Steelers: Dee Ford (DE): There's a real lack of strong pass rushers on the Steelers' roster, leaving way too long for the QB to throw and leaving their secondary well exposed.
16. Dallas Cowboys: Kony Ealy (DE): They desperately need to replace DeMarcus Ware and reaching for Ealy is just Jones' style.
17. Baltimore Ravens: Taylor Lewan (OT): Best available player and would give them options in the run game.
18. New York Jets: Jace Amaro (TE): Everyone knows that Rex Ryan likes to take a defensive player in the first round but they need more weapons for Vick and a pass catching TE fits the bill.
19. Miami Dolphins: Zack Martin (G): After the Incognito controversy they need to find reinforcements for the O-line. Albert is in to replace Jonathan Martin, Zack Martin is a big 'set and forget' type Guard who'll fill Incognito's shoes with aplomb.
20. Arizona Cardinals: Derek Carr (QB): This may be a bit of a reach taking Carr in the first round, but the lack of talent pushing Palmer is deafening and if it works out Carr could turn them into contenders.
21. Green Bay Packers: Calvin Pryor (S): The Pack had massive issues at safety, being the only team with no INT's from a safety last season. If Pryor falls to the Pack at 21 his selection is a cinch.
22. Philadelphia Eagles: Darqueez Dennard (CB): Very leaky secondaries characterised the NFC East least season and a shutdown corner would be coveted in Philly.
23. Kansas City Chiefs: Marquaise Lee (WR): Avery is a mediocre #2 for Bowe at best and Lee's route running is some of the best since AJ Green and Julio Jones.
24. Cincinnati Bengals: CJ Mosley (ILB): Rey Malauga needs help in the middle and with CJ Mosley still being on the board they'd be remiss to not take him.
25. San Diego Chargers: Kyle Fuller (CB): There's a dearth of talent in the Chargers' secondary and Fuller's strong showing at his pro day will have caught their attention.
26. Cleveland Browns (from Indianapolis): Brandin Cooks (WR): Questions about on the reliability of Little and Burleson. Cooks has elite hands and will give them the chance to throw a few different looks next season.
27. New Orleans Saints: Louis Nix (DT): Nix is the best available player and would add flexibility and skill to an inexperienced Defensive Line.
28. Carolina Panthers: Odell Beckham jr (WR): The Panthers are desperate at WR and they'll take any they can get. Beckham is the best available at #28 but I see them trading up.
29. New England Patriots: Rasheed Hageman (DT): The Pats have made it pretty obvious that they're looking for Wilfork's protege. A former TE, Hageman's size and speed is ideal and learning from Wilfork will make his 'boom or bust' type prospect more likely to boom in a big way.
30. San Fransisco 49ers: Ryan Shazier (OLB): With Smith facing a large portion of the season on the sidelines (and possibly in jail) they're going to need reinforcements at LB.
31. Denver Broncos: Xavier Su'a-Filo (OG): Injuries on the O-line were brutally exposed in the Super Bowl by the 'Hawks and more interior cover will be at the top of their 'to do' list.
32. Seattle Seahawks: Timmy Jernigan (DT): They don't really need a DT, but they don't have many needs full stop and as defending champions they've got the luxury of taking the best available player.
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Draft day is finally here!
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NFL CHRISTMAS!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hoping either Pryor or Clinton-Dix falls to the Packers. Failing that they take a WR or TE to help out Rodgers.
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Welcome to Title town, HaHa Clinton-Dix.
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afromanGT wrote:Welcome to Title town, HaHa Clinton-Dix. Best. Name. Ever.
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Taylor Lewan to us at #11 after our 2 main targets, Gilbert and Barr went #8 and #10 respectively. The more i think about it the happier i am. Was disappointed at first but reading into it, we have a guy that can play on both sides, has 2 solid veterans to learn from and can probably take over and hold a starting position for 8-10 years. Cant really complain.
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Clowney v Lewan twice a year for the next 5-6 years at least. This gives me hope.
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Quote:FORMER NFL star Aaron Hernandez, who was already accused of murder in a man’s shooting death last year, “ambushed and executed” two other men a year earlier after an encounter at a nightclub, prosecutors said as they announced new murder charges against him.
The arrest of Hernandez on a murder charge last year stunned the American sporting world.
Hernandez earned big money as a star for the Boston area’s New England Patriots, one of the most successful teams in recent years in the National Football League, by far the most popular pro sports league in the US.
In the new charges, Hernandez is accused of shooting the victims to death as they sat in a car in Boston’s trendy South End on July 16, 2012
Police said earlier they were shot by someone who drove up alongside in an SUV with Rhode Island licence plates and opened fire.
Suffolk District Attorney Daniel Conley said on Thursday the victims were “ambushed and executed as they drove home” and that Hernandez was the gunman.
Weeks later, Hernandez signed a five-year deal worth about $US40 million ($42.5 million) with the Patriots and went on to play 12 games as a tight end for the team that season.
Hernandez is being held in custody awaiting trial in the separate 2013 shooting death near his Massachusetts home of 27-year-old Odin Lloyd.
On the night of the 2012 attack, Hernandez and the victims encountered each other at a nightclub, Mr Conley said, though he did not detail what happened.
Hernandez was seen on surveillance footage in the nightclub that night and the SUV involved in the shooting was found at Hernandez’s uncle’s home in Bristol, Connecticut.
The SUV was covered in dust and cobwebs and had a dead battery, leading police to believe it had remained untouched in the garage for close to a year, according to the court documents.
Hernandez had long been famous as a football star in the New England region, dating back to his school years in Connecticut.
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Things just go from bad to worse with that bloke huh? Makes me a bit nervous about the Packers signing Colt Lyerla.
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Jarryd Hayne =d> Certainly proving me wrong
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As great as that 53 yard rush was, it'll be the return game that does the most for his chances.
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This cinci/Steelers game has been insane, implosion for the ages
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The Maco wrote:This cinci/Steelers game has been insane, implosion for the ages Felt like it took well over 30 minutes to play out the final two.
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