Maybe Wenger leaving wouldn't be a bad thing. Would make a lot of people realise just how good we have it and it wouldn't be long before people would be begging for Arsene back.

I dont know if it is insane. While I don't think Wenger needs to go.We seem to go through the same thing every year with little improvement.We have had our worse starts two years in a row, there has to be some changes. Whether its tactics, personnel, manager or whatever Im not sure. SAF completely outfoxed Arsene this morning, marking Arteta out of the game, taking cleverly off when it became clear that a Red card was coming; and thats before we get to the self inflicted wounds, such as playing Santos against Valencia.

As captain Van Persie was right to question Wenger and the club's direction in that now infamous meeting; (as a fan) he was wrong to gone to United, but he was right to question the club. Its clear that RVP left for footballing reasons, his reasons not ours.

Im not that disappointed by the scoreline, 2-1 at OT isn't unusual, but the manner of the performance was terrible, we were lucky it wasnt more.

Edited by Hinderz: 4/11/2012 01:23:43 PM

:lol: The amount of people suggesting it's time for Arsene to go is just insane.

Yeah I'm more relieved because I was always expecting we wouldn't get anything more than a draw at OT

Not sure if I feel relieved about that, or annoyed that we didn't capitalise on this opportunity. Probably relieved, I should never have been expecting to get much from United away.

Anyway, wasn't as horrible a night as it could've been with Chelsea, City, Sp*rs and Everton all dropping points.

Feel a little bit better about last night after waking up to see Wigan beat Sp*rs at home :lol:

Arteta's not a destroyer, but neither was Song, or at least he didn't play like one. Arteta is much more solid than Song because he's much more disciplined, he's willing to actually protect the back 4 and not maraud forward every 2nd possession like Song would. Arteta is much much better at the role than Song was and much better than Diaby would be.

Arteta is a better tackler, completing 3.8 tackles this season compared to Song's 2.9 last season. He also gives away less fouls, giving away 2.5 a game to Song's 2.9 last season. He's streets ahead as a passer with his 93.2% pass completion to Song's 84.3%. He makes more interceptions with 2.4 a game compared to Song's 1.9.

So yeah easy to sit there and say Arteta can't play that role like Song, when he actually plays it better than Song.

Edited by sydneycroatia58: 4/11/2012 09:42:25 AM

I wonder if Santos has ever heard the words "don't dive in"...

Disagree with Arteta, I've very respect for him but he's not a destroyer. Arteta has been caught out a few times for pace and has been forced into a foul, he doesn't have the required phyiscal presence to perform the Song role. With big Diaby out (usually), you have to say that we look physically weak there. Having said that, Arteta is doing well as a deep lying playmaker but I don't think he's solid enough as a holding midfielder.

I dont agree about Arteta but i agree 100% about Santos. This is not the first time he has been rubbish. Even with Gibbs injured Santos shouldnt be in the team i believe Miguel would be a batter choice as a back up left back to Gibbs.
Did anyone notice at half-time RVP took off his shit jersey and gave it to Santos, what was with that first time i seen it happen at half time.

It seems so but with his talent do you feel he is perhaps wasted there a little? I'd want him further up the pitch dictating play. I guess you have Carzola for that, I just noticed Arteta wasn't what I remember.

On the result, shouldn't be any surprise, we've been a shower of shit against United at OT every game for the last 3-4 years. Fucking huge game against Schalke coming up.

Completely agree on Santos. The sooner Gibbs is back the better.

As for Arteta, apart from the the last 2 games he has been an immense upgrade on Song. He actually gives us some sort of solidity in the middle that we never had with Song in there.

I don't watch too many Arsenal games but:-

- Surely someone is better than Santos? Valencia and Rafael had far too many runs along the line unchecked.

- Arteta in Song's position? Surely he is better off somewhere else because since Song's departure it seems that Arteta has't been as influential?

I can't imagine a top four finish this season, lacklustre all over.

Worrying that League cup aside, we haven't really created much in the past 3 games. Not much against Schalke, 1/2 against QPR, and none today.

Still, wasn't expecting anything out of today's game, would have been please with a point. Fulham is a must win next week though, as is Schalke midweek.

Ramsey was decent against Man City out wide, was poor last week but so was our whole team.

I dont think its too bad... Ramsey played quite well in the that last 1-0 win against them aswell... Hes just inconsistent, like theo, like arsharvin

Starting XI v United: Mannone, Sagna, Santos, Mertesacker, Vermaelen, Arteta, Wilshere, Ramsey, Cazorla, Podolski, Giroud.

Just one question, WHY THE FUCK IS RAMSEY STARTING!!

EDIT: Scratch that, considering our injuries and the fact Theo played 120+ minutes midweek it's probably not a bad idea to have him coming off the bench.

Edited by sydneycroatia58: 3/11/2012 10:57:45 PM

He is a known Liverpool fan and Liverpool could offer him a spot in the centre so he might go there without the offer of extra money

I'm sure it is...

It's about the money.

He is... it'll flush out whether it's about the money...

Wenger on Theo



Interesting to see that it seems like he is really coming around to the idea of Theo through the middle.

So that's 13 goals for and 6 against in 2 games. Can't say the League Cup isn't entertaining :lol:

I didn't even know this game was on!

Surely he must think of reverting back to a 442.

So fucking happy for Jenks, even if it should be Theo's.

Was reading arse blog I was like wtf when I read the final score!!! Entertaining much

Dont know if you saw the interview, but it was pretty funny. Carl wanted that goal.



Edited by Hinderz: 31/10/2012 11:55:55 AM