This is such a massive problem in itself.

United fans would be quick to point out that we're "not" anymore.

I don't think Dalglish's job is safe. But the wrath incurred from fans for 'sacking' him, as opposed to replacing him with a big name and returning him to his previous role as a director would not be worth the trouble it would cause with fans for NESV.

The point is Liverpool are doing poorly at the moment and having a tough time but around the internet many of their fans will resort to stating how good things were in seasons past. Rather annoying to be honest.

I'd be buying a striker if i were Liverpool and also another central midfielder.

To be fair, I think there were several names that could have replaced Hodgson at the club. The board went with Dalglish to restore faith with the fans in what has been one of the most turbulent times in the clubs illustrious history. It's more a move of business sense and a showing of good faith than it is about any tactical genius.

Moreover, Dalglish is one of the most successful names ever to be involved with the game. His resume is almost incomperable and the board were perhaps a little naive in disregarding him at the start of the season in preference to the 'bargain' approach of hiring Hodgson.

i hope everyone has texted and rung their liverpool mates today!

it is sad... I grew up with rush hansen souness and wow what a club, and the best atmosphere is at anfield!

they will come right! but in the mean time hahahhahahha

Dalgleish -liverpool legend - 3 times sacked!

Every club has their off periods. Sometimes it takes nostalgia to get through it. If you don't remember the good times the bad times are even more depressive.

I'd definitely be looking at a striker. But I think a consistent full-back is more pressing than another midfielder. Meireles, Gerrard and Lucas are doing an ok job. And if we really wanted to we could play Agger in Masch's old role (sounds crazy, but think about it for a bit and it might work...). Throw whatever it takes at Bayern to get Lahm off them and pick up a decend striker (looking at Benzema or Suarez) and things are looking half decent. A new midfielder can wait until the new season.

:-S Wut? 0 times sacked.

How far have 'pool fallen.

There linked with Charlie Adams.

He was sacked at Newcastle and Celtic but thats still only 2.....

They're linked with any footballer with a pulse. Adams has been very good for Blackpool this season. Take him over Poulsen any day of the week tbh.

He was sacked by Newcastle, but Shepherd was a crazy SOB.

What happened at Celtic was complicated, but I wouldn't say he was 'sacked'. He was only really a caretaker there anyway and went back to his role as 'director of football' after O'Neill was hired.

Really, the only place that outright sacked him was Newcastle.

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Ok maybe I didn't make it clear enough. A few years ago you signed Torres you are now looking at Charlie Adams.... :lol:

A few years ago we also signed Josemi, Kromkamp and Nunez. Six months ago we signed Poulsen. At least now we're looking at proven EPL performers. In fairness, would you really say no to Adams at your club?

Every club has their off periods. Sometimes it takes nostalgia to get through it. If you don't remember the good times the bad times are even more depressive.

I'd definitely be looking at a striker. But I think a consistent full-back is more pressing than another midfielder. Meireles, Gerrard and Lucas are doing an ok job. And if we really wanted to we could play Agger in Masch's old role (sounds crazy, but think about it for a bit and it might work...). Throw whatever it takes at Bayern to get Lahm off them and pick up a decend striker (looking at Benzema or Suarez) and things are looking half decent. A new midfielder can wait until the new season.[/quote]

I suggested a new midfielder because in my opinion theres no point having 2 world class strikers when you struggle to get them the ball. Gerrard i think makes the other two you have look better than they are. When Gerrard is out you seem to struggle a little more.

Gerrard and Meireles in midfield are class together IMO. I don't think that area needs as much work as finding a full-back or second striker. That can wait until the end of the season.

6 months is not proven and I wouldn't take Adam's he isn't better than Barton. He doesn't have anything of Joey in fact.

He's been at Blackpool since '09 and has been central to everything they've done. He's stepped up to the EPL level very well.

Superior police record?

There was no bubble. Kenny himself said that he's glad everyone was excited, he's glad he had the opportunity to help out, but expecting miracles from day one and topping the table wasn't realistic.

And it's true. We have to be realistic.

You see, I don't think you have us sussed right. I don't think you fully understand what every Liverpool fan has understood for all these years when we've been in the effective wilderness - with wins in all major competitions, always participating, but without our elusive league trophy.

You see, we have history, but we have more than history. We've been at the centre of some really catastrophic events. Our club, our fans, our brothers and sisters, have been the perpetrator and the victim of tragedies that have torn people apart. Fans from Liverpool and fans from Juve know a bittersweet feeling that can only come with the kind of association where people have died simply because they loved their club and they loved their game.

When we talk about having Kenny back, it's because it's symbolic of what he's given us. It's what he gave us after Hillsborough, and it's what we all gave back to him. It's not about winning. It's not about trophies. It's something else that you can't really understand until you've accepted what Shanks knew all those years ago when he set us on this road - it's about that family, and it's about making people happy. This is why Shanks was so appalled at the way Helenio Herrera's Inter played - not because he lost a game, but because while winning is good, playing outside the spirit of the game was, and still is to us, anathema.

This is the difference. This is why the Prawns at Man U and the other clubs - and they're not all Prawns - don't understand what it means to still be there for each other when you're not winning. This is why Roy didn't last - he was never part of the family because he was appointed by Statler and Waldorf. Simple as.

And that's not just reserved for Liverpool fans. When the Sun lied about the fans at Hillsborough, they didn't just insult Scousers, and they didn't just insult Liverpool - they insulted everyone who's part of the family of the game. The only people who didn't understand that were the people who don't understand the love and the people who live for the hatred.

When you care more about winning, you don't care for what Maori call te aroha - the indescribable, all-encompassing love that goes beyond anything real and bonds not just genuine fans of Liverpool, but the genuine passion we all feel for the game. And that's really sad, because if you don't understand that then you're missing something. United fans, Bluenoses, everyone has a section of support that understands why it's the beautiful game and knows the feeling when you think it's spinning out of control. It took me a good few years to fully understand this, but you know what - when that epiphany came, then aside from in the heat of the moment, I don't forget it.

Having Kenny back doesn't mean we're going to win - and I can really pity the Liverpool fans who've been mouthing off because we lost to what was a better side while he shuffled players around to give them all the chance they deserved under him. You can probably guarantee that Poulson isn't going to get much of a chance after that performance. But if he does, it won't be because Kenny doesn't care about the club, and it won't be because he's not a good manager.

It'll be because there's a reason. It'll be because someone in charge finally gives a fuck about us again. Someone who's been there before and someone who'll be there for the rest.

Who gives a fuck if we're relegated. It's our boss, and he's our boss like few others could be. And after nearly four years at the mercy of Hicks and Gillett, I'm finally fucking happy.

We applauded Blackpool off at Anfield, and they deserved to win again. When you can understand what it's like to be beaten, and be graceful about a fair win, then I think you can join us.

Edited by dizzy_red: 13/1/2011 03:40:18 PM

Exactly what you said dizzy is why so many other fans enjoy watching what is happening to you.

You honestly think you are better than everyone else because you support Liverpool and it annoys the fuck out of everybody else who follows football.

I have a newsflash for you:

Hillsbrough
Heysel

THEY DONT MAKE YOU FUCKING SPECIAL.

I like how you try to seperate yourself from other fans then call Man U fans prawns. They lost a whole generation of players in Munich yet your better than them and understand the meaning of togetherness more? Man Utd fans got killed a few years ago in Rome but does that make a blip on your insular radar. NO. Because your a Liverpool fan and your better than every other fan in the league right? No other fan understands pain and suffering for their team except a Scouser.

This.

Liverpool will always be better then Man U. Liverpool have great history. Not ignoring what United have achieved but they have achieved most of their titles in the PL era. Now theres huge amounts of money in the game and thats what will decide titles. (Besides Man City).

Though who would want to support Man U?? Theirs more so called 'supporters' of that club in other countries than what there is in Manchester.

Though Liverpool supporters need to realise they arent the best club anymore. They havent won the league in like 20 years and they wont win it for another 20.

Preston were once a great team,but they arent anymore. Leeds were once a great team, they arent anymore. Portsmouth, Sunderland, Newcastle and others were all once great teams but they arent anymore. But thats football, you need to move on.

Liverpool supporters need to accept what most clubs supporters have had to.

I'm so glad you all just proved my point. You didn't read what I said - comprehension isn't your strong point, clearly.

Some of my best friends are Mancs... and Gooners... and Toffees... and the rest. And you couldn't hope to reach the level of understanding we have until you drop the idea that we're on different sides. Which is tragic.

Bark on, bark on, with hope in your heart, cos you'll never get a clue.

This essentially proves exactly what Dizzy just said. You've got no idea. You're constalty promoting an 'us v them' mentality from the club that just isn't there.

Moreover, over 100 Liverpool fans have died at two Liverpool games simply going to watch the game and club that they love. But the important thing to remember here, is that these 103 lives lost (along with the lives of 32 Juventus fans) is not just about Liverpool. These lives CHANGED THE FACE OF FOOTBALL. FOREVER. And until you get over yourself, you'll never understand where the club is right now.

It took Manchester United some 45 years to completely recover from the Munich Disaster, and that's a measure of the character at the club that they could recover from that. 25 years after Heysel, Liverpool are still recovering from Heysel. In an interview two years ago Kenny Dalglish said that he still cries about that night sometimes.

No other club has been financially crippled by two greedy american morons either. This set back Liverpool's recovery by ten years.

Also, what you said about a Manchester United fan dying in Rome is pure, unadulterated fabrication. A Manchester United fan was stabbed 11 times in 2007. Why? Because the idiot attacked Roma fans with a bin. He was taken to hospital and survived.

Have you ever heard of Leeds or Portsmouth or Crystal Palace. All have been financially crippled by greedy owners for fucks sake and your telling me to get over myself what a fucking joke.

Dizzy said the prawns at Man U don't understand what it's like to be together when they are losing because they don't have your history. Guess what Munich happened decades before Hillsbrough or Heysel.

It seems to be only Liverpool fans who don't think they have a "were better than you" attitude. There's a lot of decent scousers but a lot of you think because you have on so much, because of Heysel and Hillsbrough that you are different to the rest of us. What gives you the right to say nobody else would understand. Last season a team that had been relegated the year before with an owner who has dine everything he can to alienate fans averaged more to home games than you did and yet you still say other fans dint understand how hard times feel.

Who ever said we were better??

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CARRY ON.

Leeds, Portsmouth and Crystal Palace were crippled by spending beyond their means. It had nothing to do with their owners and all to do with the men on the board mismanaging the clubs funds. Liverpool's problem was because an unservicable loan was taken out by G&H against the club in order to purchase it, not because of club spending. It's a completely different circumstance.

Last season Liverpool averaged 99% capacity, while Newcastle averaged 78%. Nuf said.

1. You averaged 94%

2. Newcastle average 82% in the Championship. Mostly dragged down by 1 game our lowest attendance ever after Mike Ashley renamed our stadium in a cunt move. Take that game out we have (basically - a few .02%) the same percentage as you.

3. A club going broke feels the exact same way for any fan yet again Liverpool fans trying to feel special.

4. It is funny because the last 2 years you have been completely disagreeing with the fact that your club is broke and saying that your club could pay off the debts.

Edited by Guest: 14/1/2011 04:02:01 PM

For this to be mathematically sound, for your AVERAGE to drop by 12% in a 46 game season, you would have had to have NEGATIVE people turn up. I call bullshit. Stop making things up on the spot.

You spend more time posting about Liverpool than you do posting about your own miserable club. Why don't you just come out of the closet already, cut the crap and become a LFC supporter?

Find a quote or more bullshit is called.

Seriously, take your idiot geordie opinion elsewhere.

I call trolling. Just shut up.

Fairly sure marty owes me $5 right now :D