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Another quality performance from Liverpool against West Ham
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random_hero wrote:Another quality performance from Liverpool against West Ham Another quality post from you.
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Good chance to turn it around against the Mancs... hope Carroll makes his debut :)
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So how do Liverpool fans feel about Birmingham's win yesterday. Leaves Pool in a potentially sticky situation. With Arsenal and United set for an FA Cup Quarter Final clas it'd mean it would have to be an FA Cup final only involving Arsenal, United, City, Birmingham. If a team other than those makes the final it means 6th place isn't good enough for Europa League.
If that happens mean you'd have to win the Europa League to qualify.
Edited by sydneycroatia58: 28/2/2011 10:34:16 PM
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Guess we have to win it then. ;)
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:So how do Liverpool fans feel about Birmingham's win yesterday. Leaves Pool in a potentially sticky situation. With Arsenal and United set for an FA Cup Quarter Final clas it'd mean it would have to be an FA Cup final only involving Arsenal, United, City, Birmingham. If a team other than those makes the final it means 6th place isn't good enough for Europa League.
If that happens mean you'd have to win the Europa League to qualify.
Edited by sydneycroatia58: 28/2/2011 10:34:16 PM Well, it's not a massive stretch. It was always going to be tight this year, with Spurs' resurgence and the money pumped into other clubs, as well as the Statler and Waldorf fiasco and getting shot of their legacy. 5th place isn't just a theoretical possibility, though. It's still on. We all have a series of difficult and unpredictable games, so don't go writing us off yet, especially with Chelski having such an intense period coming up and probably concentrating on CL footy.
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You're 6 points behind Chelsea and they have 2 games in hand on you. You'd have to rely on them completely collapsing and you actually putting in some good form for the rest of the season. I'd focus on securing 6th place if I was Pool, especially since one bad weekend could set you back to 9th position.
Edited by sydneycroatia58: 2/3/2011 02:22:29 AM
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Martin Kelly out for a month with a torn hamstring.
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Heard that yesterday. A real shame because he has been a superb player for us, a shining light this season. Gives Kenny an easy way to slot Carra back into the team though.
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:You're 6 points behind Chelsea and they have 2 games in hand on you. You'd have to rely on them completely collapsing and you actually putting in some good form for the rest of the season. I'd focus on securing 6th place if I was Pool, especially since one bad weekend could set you back to 9th position.
Edited by sydneycroatia58: 2/3/2011 02:22:29 AM Well, if you're part of those that enjoy mediocrity, then aiming lower than you can achieve is obviously the thing to do. On the other hand, if you're a Liverpool fan, you'll look at what's realistic. For example, now it's 9 points with one game in hand, but seeing as Chelski lost three in a row and enjoyed a series of draws earlier in the season, whereas Liverpool have managed to win four in a row in recent times. Seeing as Chelsea haven't excelled in most circumstances, and Torres still has to show that he's worth 50m, with Carroll, Raul, Agger and Aurelio looking to be available, the squad is looking less threadbare than it did. I think you can expect a big push. I think you'd be foolish to rule us out, just like the foolish bunch of people throwing relegation jibes at us a couple of months ago. My issues are: The performance of Skrtel, Jovanovic, Spearing, Cole and Poulsen; injuries to Carroll, Meireles, Agger. I think we were beaten by a better side at the weekend, but I also think that shouldn't have been the case and I'm not sure it's going to set a pattern. We looked weak in midfield, depleted in defence after Kelly went off, and Skrtel was underperforming in a key role. I strongly suspect the move to three centre halves was a move that allowed slack to be picked up. It's clear that Skrtel is either underperforming or isn't good enough in the first place.
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Injuries to Carroll...... you bought him injured ffs.
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I look forward to seeing how Carroll goes in a red shirt.
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Guest wrote:Injuries to Carroll...... you bought him injured ffs. Really? =d> Cos yeah, I thought we bought him when he had a big fuck-off set of wings. I'm at a loss to why you think it's not a concern about when he's available, even if we bought him injured or at the point where he evolved into pure energy. :roll:
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Guest wrote:Injuries to Carroll...... you bought him injured ffs. Naturally this makes it less of an issue? I'm concerned that Martin Skrtel is currently behind Danny Wilson in the pecking order. His form shouldn't be this bad! We're in a tight spot with injuries in the midfield at the moment too. Poulsen is performing above his average but still somewhat lodged in mediocrity. No Meireles is costly.
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Quote:Dalglish claims referees listen to 'who shouts loudest'
Kenny Dalglish has prepared for the visit of Sir Alex Ferguson and Wayne Rooney to Anfield by accusing "the ones who shout loudest" of receiving preferential treatment from referees and undermining the Football Association's Respect campaign.
Ferguson is to defend himself against a charge of improper conduct brought against the Manchester United manager following comments about the referee Martin Atkinson at Chelsea on Tuesday and has Rooney available for Sunday's game with Liverpool despite elbowing James McCarthy at Wigan. Rooney is free to assist United's pursuit of a record 19th league title, one more than Liverpool, after the referee Mark Clattenburg prevented the FA taking retrospective action against the striker by insisting he handled the incident correctly at the time. Dalglish did not mention United or Ferguson by name in his allegation of double standards but, while indicating Liverpool could withdraw their co-operation from the Respect campaign, he conceded recent events had fuelled his frustration.
The Liverpool manager said: "There has been a theme about referees for most of this week. When I came back in we were made aware of the Respect campaign that is there to help referees and which, obviously, we have adhered to. We have never come out and criticised the referees after games. It is difficult for them not to make mistakes but if we are going to respect the campaign and we are the ones adhering to it, then I just hope that we are not the ones who are suffering.
"Sometimes you think that the ones who shout loudest are the ones who get the more beneficial decisions and that would be totally unfair. We will respect the campaign as long as we think that we won't be suffering in any way, shape or form. Right at this particular moment in time I cannot say that it is particularly true that we haven't suffered. We will try our best to maintain our dignity and respect for referees but we would also like to think they would show us respect for going along with the guidelines of the campaign."
Dalglish's first game back in charge of Liverpool, in the FA Cup at Old Trafford in January, produced a first-minute penalty for United and an early red card for Steven Gerrard from the referee Howard Webb. The Liverpool manager also believes the authorities have been unfair and inconsistent in punishing match officials.
He added: "We had an incident at Wolves where the lady official [Sian Massey] gave a decision that proved to be correct and she was left out of games thereafter. Why? She did nothing wrong. Now somebody was publicised during the week there, without mentioning any particular incident, and what happens to them? They just continue." http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/mar/06/kenny-dalglish-referees-liverpool
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Quote:Liverpool v Manchester United: Raul Meireles looks to slay bitter rivals as he enters dragon's den
On Sunday lunchtime, Raul Meireles will need his dragon. It covers his back. “You know what it means?” asks the Portuguese midfielder, when required to explain the vast tattoo which runs down his spine. “It is protection. In Japanese mythology, it is the perfect creature.”
On Sunday, Manchester United are at Anfield. Against the Red Devils, face to face with Liverpool’s demons, Raul Meireles will need his dragon.
He knows it, too. His eyes are wide, his tone disbelieving, when he discusses the intensity, the sheer, relentless physicality which pervades the Premier League. “The kicks here,” he exclaims. “Ooph. The game never stops. Everything is a battle.”
Never more so than against United; never more so than when United must be defeated if Liverpool are to have any hope at all of remaining even the joint most titled club in England. Reason to be afraid? Reason to think he has no taste for a third encounter with Sir Alex Ferguson’s side this season? No. A laugh. “It is very good. I like it. This is England. It is unbelievable.”
It is a word that crops up often in 45 minutes in Meireles’s company on a sunny spring afternoon at Melwood, Liverpool’s tranquil training complex. He is relaxed, engaging, his English fluent enough to showcase his rapid-fire wit. His sentences are short, staccato. He receives an idea, releases a retort. He is as economical with words as he is with possession. And he is positive. Always, breathlessly positive.
The Porto team where he made his name? “Lucho Gonzalez, Lisandro Lopez. Unbelievable.” Andre Villas-Boas, the coach at the club he departed last summer for Anfield for £11.7 million? “I only worked one month with him. Unbelievable. He is like Steve Clarke, since he came here. Wow.”
His delight is not restricted to his former club. Rui Bento, his hero, was unbelievable. Steven Gerrard, his captain, likewise. Kenny Dalglish’s return, too, to replace Roy Hodgson. “The fans had stopped believing in the team. Now, with Kenny, they sing his song 10 times every game.” Believable? No. “Unbelievable.”
So too the goal that first catapulted him into the country’s consciousness, that volley at Molineux. “After the game, I went home, straight on to the internet and watched it 20 times. But it was a lucky goal.”
Another recurring theme. “I am a lucky guy,” he says, when discussing team-mates past and present. “I played with Vitor Baia at Porto. He won more titles than any player in history.” He will not, though, be drawn on who is the best he has played alongside. “Too difficult. Sorry. Lucho. Cristiano Ronaldo. Lisandro. But I like Stevie [Gerrard].”
Conscious of his own good fortune, capable of drawing pleasure from all he has achieved. Meireles is a reservoir of positivity. His first few months in England, though, must nearly have drained it.
His transfer, he freely admits, was “a dream”. “I always dreamed of playing in the Premier League,” he says. “But [I never thought] for a top club. Maybe a middle club. To play in Liverpool, it is fantastic.
The supporters. Wow. I want to win every game because they deserve it.”
Especially after what they, and he, went through earlier this season. By October, Meireles, pursued for the last three years by Internazionale, Sevilla and Marseille, found himself in a side sitting 18th in the league.
He is adamant Liverpool’s ostracism from the Champions League did not negatively impact his view of the club. “When Liverpool make you an offer, there is only one answer,” he insists. “When my agent told me it was a possibility, I said I go now. Now.”
Nor, more surprisingly, did the relegation battle he found himself embroiled in. There are no regrets.
“Did I expect it? No. Never in my life. Never,” he says. “But I enjoy things more now. In Portugal, at my first club Boavista, I had to fight and fight to be in a good position. Then at Porto, we played so well, we had the best players in the best team. I won 10 titles. Then I came here, and we had this season.”
Meireles, playing out of his homeland for the first time, might have found his expectations confounded, his ambitions realigned to fit Liverpool’s new reality, but while his surrounds were unfamiliar, his club’s plight was less strange.
His ability to connect with a dropping ball would not suggest it, but perhaps Meireles does not have the greatest sense of timing. A boyhood fan of their great rivals Boavista – “I hated Porto” – he crossed the Douro in 2004. The summer after Jose Mourinho won the Champions League, left for Chelsea and took a raft of players with him.
“It is hard to lose a figure like him,” he says. “That year, my first at Porto, we won nothing. We had three coaches. But that is normal when you have had two fantastic years, winning everything. It is difficult to build a new team. But the second year was perfect.
“It is like Liverpool. This is a difficult year. New coach, new players. But I think next year we will have more chance to fight for better places. It takes time to be perfect.”
Hodgson, summarily dismissed by Fenway Sports Group, the club’s owners, in January was never afforded that time. Meireles will not speak ill of him – “He brought me here. I like him. I need to thank him” – but will acknowledge that Dalglish’s more aesthetic style suits him better.
That is hardly a surprise. Meireles, muscular but slight, is not built for combat, but for grace. “In Portugal, we say it is better to be small and good, than big and bad,” he says. United should not expect him to shrink away from challenges today. “Sometimes you need to tackle. “But it is more how you read the game.”
And it helps when you have a dragon on your shoulder. Offering protection.
ClickyGreat interview.
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Brilliant. Everyone, but particularly Suarez, Kuyt and Lucas. Meireles in the first half too.
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My favourite game this season. :)
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imnofreak wrote:Brilliant. Everyone, but particularly Suarez, Kuyt and Lucas. Meireles in the first half too. Excellent performance from all involved. Can't really fault anyone in that. People are saying United were poor, but they were only as good as we let them be. Kuyt, Suarez and Lucas had a great day. Meireles' contribution was superb. Gerrard deserved a goal late on there.
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afromanGT wrote:imnofreak wrote:Brilliant. Everyone, but particularly Suarez, Kuyt and Lucas. Meireles in the first half too. Excellent performance from all involved. Can't really fault anyone in that. People are saying United were poor, but they were only as good as we let them be. Kuyt, Suarez and Lucas had a great day. Meireles' contribution was superb. Gerrard deserved a goal late on there. Couldnt agree more What a player Suarez is going to be for us, phenominal!!! YNWA
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I will man up and congratulate you and Liverpool. Too good on the day. Enjoy.
=d>
Edited by busbybabe: 7/3/2011 09:29:14 AM
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Suarez was simply magnificent. His movement and interplay with kuyt was first class!
With Carroll coming in and Kuyt, Raul and Gerrard hitting some form, things are definitely looking up for us :)
Loved it when the kop started singing happy Birthday to Kenny.
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Our only real concern is Agger and Kelly's fitness and they can be compensated for.
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=d> thats all I did once the final :-" blew :cool: Suarez is just the tonic we needed up front ala KK days, win of the season as far as I'm concerned =d>
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Deserved result, will be interesting to see whether they can back it up for their next game
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manufan4life wrote:Deserved result, will be interesting to see whether they can back it up for their next game Probably Not :lol: Be interesting where United go from here
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Awesome game. Who said the point of the game is to make space when you've got the ball and prevent the opposition getting space when you haven't... well, we fucking did that.
Amazed at how few Man U attacks managed to get down the centre. Amazed at how disciplined the back four was.
Still though, we're sitting very precariously on a depleted midfield and back four, hence Gerrard and Lucas sat back where they did. More often than not it felt like we had four up front, not one. It's no wonder that they had trouble marking us when Kuyt, Raul, Suarez and to a lesser extent Maxi had free reign to run in on those killer diagonal runs.
Were Vidic and Ferdinand key to that? Well, perhaps. I think there was a distinct lack of organisation around the United defence, but unfortunately we've seen that kind of thing happen even when Vidic or Rio have been there. I think they were fucked from the moment they stepped on the pitch, because there was a plan to put those four fast runners in the box a lot, keep the line high and stifle their game in midfield. Aside from a 10-15 minute period in the second half - worrying for me, because I saw them sitting back and looking for the 2-0 - United looked fucked. No imagination going forward, spilling passes.
You wouldn't believe just how little work Kyrgiakos and Skrtel had to do until you've seen the heatmaps - in total, they probably took no more than 25 touches between them for the whole game because Lucas, Gerrard and Maxi took all the sting out of Rooney and Berbatov.
It's frightening how effective they were at doing the job. I said a few months ago, and something maintained through the Rafa years, that Lucas wasn't effective enough in defence. I'm glad I was wrong - he's highly effective sitting in front of the centre halfs, and provided with some defensive midfield cover, like Gerrard, perfect for the job at the moment, he's got license to get forward. The issues with Lucas were clearly tactical ones - in the first half of the season Maxi would be coming inside to cover for him (we were wondering what he was for) and he'd be redundant, but now, well... words gladly eaten.
Best players for us? All of them, but Suarez was king. Sotos did his job well - I don't rate him as a defender, I think he's too overtly physical and plays a dangerous game - but the hidden star was Lucas.
For United? Wes Brown, shockingly, although his defensive discipline was at times pretty crap. Supposed to be the organiser back there. Poor show in that respect, especially for Kuyt's third. The only running back he did to cover for spillages was with his fucking hand up shouting for offside. Carrick was a bit of a midfield stalwart though. Quietly impressive.
COME ON ARSENAL.
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If Liverpool are so good why arent they in the top 4 and challenging for the title
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random_hero wrote:If Liverpool are so good why arent they in the top 4 and challenging for the title You chose a pretty stupid time to come in here picking a fight.
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random_hero wrote:If Liverpool are so good why arent they in the top 4 and challenging for the title If Liverpool are so shit how come United got absolutely slaughtered by them?
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