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The Herald Sun wrote:
Report: Batsmen possibly used silicon tape to fool Hot Spot during Ashes series
PLAYERS in the current Ashes series may have been cheating the Hot Spot technology which is a crucial part of the Decision Review System (DRS) by using a silicone-based tape on their bats.

According to a report on Channel Nine, batsmen may be the using tape to negate the effect of the Hot Spot technology.

The Hot Spot technology used under the DRS is an infra-red imaging system which is used to tell whether a batsman has hit a ball.

The ICC general manager of cricket Operations, Geoff Allardice, is in Durham for the fourth Test to investigate the matter.

Channel Nine reports that concern centres around the Kevin Pietersen dismissal in the second innings in Manchester, when the umpire gave the English batsman out after a noise was clearly heard.

Pietersen appealed the decision on review, and was given out, even though nothing showed up on Hot Spot.

Australian batsmen may also be using this method, Nine says.

Using grainy black and white footage, Hot Spot clearly shows a bright white patch where friction has occurred. The system has been notoriously unreliable throughout this Ashes series and now we may know why.

It is not yet known whether English or Australian players are allegedly involved.

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KP raises a good point on twitter. If you use this tape to hide edges, you're risking being given on a tight LBW call where you've edged it.
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Funky Munky wrote:
KP raises a good point on twitter. If you use this tape to hide edges, you're risking being given on a tight LBW call where you've edged it.

Fair point, but how many times do you edge a tight LBW call compared to how many times you edge a ball to the slips/keeper? I'd guess the ratio is probably ~1:2? So if you did that you'd just be playing to the law of averages wouldn't you?
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afromanGT wrote:
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KP raises a good point on twitter. If you use this tape to hide edges, you're risking being given on a tight LBW call where you've edged it.

Fair point, but how many times do you edge a tight LBW call compared to how many times you edge a ball to the slips/keeper? I'd guess the ratio is probably ~1:2? So if you did that you'd just be playing to the law of averages wouldn't you?


But you're only going to be hiding thin edges behind. If you edge to slips, no tape in the world will hide it. Same with most edges to Keeper. Inside edges on to pads on the other hand, can be hard to see, no matter how blatant sometimes. So I think in the end you'd screw yourself just as much, if not more than you would save yourself.
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Funky Munky wrote:
KP raises a good point on twitter. If you use this tape to hide edges, you're risking being given on a tight LBW call where you've edged it.


Wouldn't they just tape outside edge then?
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433 wrote:
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KP raises a good point on twitter. If you use this tape to hide edges, you're risking being given on a tight LBW call where you've edged it.


Wouldn't they just tape outside edge then?


That makes sense.
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Funky Munky wrote:
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KP raises a good point on twitter. If you use this tape to hide edges, you're risking being given on a tight LBW call where you've edged it.

Fair point, but how many times do you edge a tight LBW call compared to how many times you edge a ball to the slips/keeper? I'd guess the ratio is probably ~1:2? So if you did that you'd just be playing to the law of averages wouldn't you?


But you're only going to be hiding thin edges behind. If you edge to slips, no tape in the world will hide it. Same with most edges to Keeper. Inside edges on to pads on the other hand, can be hard to see, no matter how blatant sometimes. So I think in the end you'd screw yourself just as much, if not more than you would save yourself.

Obviously you're only going to tape the outside edge of your bat though. How often do players outside edge the ball onto their own pads?
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cricinfo wrote:
The ECB will demand an "explanation and apology" from Australian TV station Channel Nine following claims that players have been using silicone tape on the edges of their bats to fool Hot Spot during the current Ashes series.

The ICC has dismissed the reports that the ICC's general manager of cricket operations, Geoff Allardice, would discuss the issue ahead of the fourth Test at Chester-le-Street as "totally incorrect." During the series, several edges have failed to show up on Hot Spot, and the Channel Nine report made particular reference to Kevin Pietersen's second innings dismissal at Old Trafford, which appears to have been the main driving force behind the ECB's complaint.

"These media reports are totally incorrect," David Richardson, the ICC chief executive, said. "Geoff Allardice is meeting with both teams and umpires to see how we can best use the DRS and the available technology going forward in the next two Test matches. It has nothing to do with any players."

Pietersen himself reacted angrily on Twitter after his name was linked to using tape. "My name brought up in Hot Spot crisis suggesting I use silicon to prevent nicks showing! Such hurtful lies. I am never afraid of getting out! If I nick it, I'll walk. To suggest I cheat by covering my bat with silicon infuriates me. How stupid would I be to try and hide a nick when it could save me on an lbw appeal, like in the first innings where Hot Spot showed I nicked it."

Both teams have been frustrated by decision reviews during the series, especially regarding edges behind. Batsmen sometimes use fibreglass tape to help with the longevity of their bats, but the Australia captain Michael Clarke said he did not know of any Australian batsman using silicone-tape or any other method of attempting to reduce the effect of Hot Spot.

"It's hard for me to talk for other players, but I've never heard any type of conversation like that in the Australian change room," Clarke said. "I didn't know there was such a thing you could do to hide nicking the ball on Hot Spot. I wouldn't have thought that a bit of tape would have made any difference anyway.

"I think I would know. I'm a bat nuffy, I pick up everyone's bats. I go through everyone's cricket bats. I find the accusation quite funny, to be honest. I can't talk for everyone but if that's the case and we're talking about cheating, I can guarantee you there's not one person in the Australian change room who will cheat. It's not the way we play cricket."

During this series, several edges have failed to appear on Hot Spot, but have shown up on the Snickometer, which is not part of the technology used by the third umpire.

Graham Onions, the England seamer, was equalling damning about the claims. "It's a huge accusation, and it's outrageous really,'' he said. "It seems completely blown out of proportion really; it doesn't seem right.

"I know the England players would never put anything on their bats. Tape has been used to mend cracks or to get our favourite bats to last as long as possible, but it sounds completely silly to even think that people are putting things on their bat to try and help them to cover up decisions.

"I can say that we don't put anything on our bats. We play the game as fair as you can, as I'm sure the Australians do as well.''

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:lol: Not a bad day for Glenn Maxwell so far. In Australia A's one day game against India A they were 8/152 before Maxwell and Josh Hazlewood put on a 146 run stand to finish at 8/298. Maxwell finished with 145 off 79 balls, 18 fours and 6 sixes.
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:
:lol: Not a bad day for Glenn Maxwell so far. In Australia A's one day game against India A they were 8/152 before Maxwell and Josh Hazlewood put on a 146 run stand to finish at 8/298. Maxwell finished with 145 off 79 balls, 18 fours and 6 sixes.

It's even better when you realize he was on 38 from 40 :lol:
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Are the ICC going to release a report into their 'investigation'?
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afromanGT wrote:
Are the ICC going to release a report into their 'investigation'?


For the silicon stuff?

Didn't think they were investigating.

-PB

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paulbagzFC wrote:
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Are the ICC going to release a report into their 'investigation'?


For the silicon stuff?

Didn't think they were investigating.

-PB

Well they can't really dismiss the accusations without some manner of 'investigation', can they?

EDIT: Nevermind, just remembered that it's the ICC.

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Pretty annoyed. Warner now moved to opener yet they did not give Hughes a chance to open. Hope Warner and Watson both get ducks.
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It does seem kind of odd that they'd give Warner a better opportunity than Hughes.

How come Starc's been dropped?
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afromanGT wrote:
It does seem kind of odd that they'd give Warner a better opportunity than Hughes.

How come Starc's been dropped?


Warner is first choice, I think it was his discipline that made him miss the first couple of tests.

I assume they're giving Bird a chance in the squad and couldn't really drop Harris.
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17 runs from 10 overs. Who was it who was saying test cricket was exciting?
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afromanGT wrote:
17 runs from 10 overs. Who was it who was saying test cricket was exciting?


That's like watching the opening 5 minutes of a soccer match, seeing that it's 0-0, and complaining that no one ever scores. #-o
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Funky Munky wrote:
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17 runs from 10 overs. Who was it who was saying test cricket was exciting?


That's like watching the opening 5 minutes of a soccer match, seeing that it's 0-0, and complaining that no one ever scores. #-o


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England scored very slowly in the last test as well. Seemed to be able to contain them, but will they lose wickets.

When is Peter Siddle going to get a bowl?
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afromanGT wrote:
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17 runs from 10 overs. Who was it who was saying test cricket was exciting?


That's like watching the opening 5 minutes of a soccer match, seeing that it's 0-0, and complaining that no one ever scores. #-o



Considering some of the other stuff you've said in this thread, I think it's perfectly acceptable to jump to the conclusion that you know nothing about the game :lol:.
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Root gone, Watson gets the break through via a review.
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Davis_Patik wrote:
Root gone, Watson gets the break through via a review.

What? Australia got a review correct?
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Lyon gets Trott, fairly even so far. Cook batting slowly but he is still there unlike his first two partners.
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Pietersen???
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Lyon and Bird get wickets and Australia looking to be better.
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Prior gone after a review. It seems Aleem Dar gave it not out because he thought there was an edge but no edge shown on Hot Spot so given out. Two review wickets for Australia, great reviewing.
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If Australia can keep England to below 260 odd then they'll have a decent shot at this match too.
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The Birdman. :d
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Great opening (& closing) over. Well in son.
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