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Funky Munky wrote:The Doctor wrote:who would you play instead of Ponting then since he's been ruled out as of today... Khawaja has shadowed for the team in Brisbane and Melbourne so he's the natrual next in line even if he maybe thrown in the deep end... and i don't think picking somebody 30+ would send the best of messages selection wise That's exactly what's gotten Australia into these problems in the first place though. Fuck age, Fuck random player recomendations for players who have played 5 games (Cheers Warnie), You pick your best XI, full stop. It doesn't matter if you're only going to get a year or two out of them, if it's a year or two of quality runs, you're better off. You don't pick the batsman who you hope will develop into a quality batsman, you pick the batsman who already is quality. I am curious as to who you think should come in Funky? A Victorian perhaps? David Hussey?
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Funky Munky wrote:The Doctor wrote:who would you play instead of Ponting then since he's been ruled out as of today... Khawaja has shadowed for the team in Brisbane and Melbourne so he's the natrual next in line even if he maybe thrown in the deep end... and i don't think picking somebody 30+ would send the best of messages selection wise That's exactly what's gotten Australia into these problems in the first place though. Fuck age, Fuck random player recomendations for players who have played 5 games (Cheers Warnie), You pick your best XI, full stop. It doesn't matter if you're only going to get a year or two out of them, if it's a year or two of quality runs, you're better off. You don't pick the batsman who you hope will develop into a quality batsman, you pick the batsman who already is quality. Isn't that then sort of contradictory, you say that it'd be throwing Khawaja in the deep end although he's arguably the best going around in Shield cricket at the moment
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buddha69 wrote:Funky Munky wrote:The Doctor wrote:who would you play instead of Ponting then since he's been ruled out as of today... Khawaja has shadowed for the team in Brisbane and Melbourne so he's the natrual next in line even if he maybe thrown in the deep end... and i don't think picking somebody 30+ would send the best of messages selection wise That's exactly what's gotten Australia into these problems in the first place though. Fuck age, Fuck random player recomendations for players who have played 5 games (Cheers Warnie), You pick your best XI, full stop. It doesn't matter if you're only going to get a year or two out of them, if it's a year or two of quality runs, you're better off. You don't pick the batsman who you hope will develop into a quality batsman, you pick the batsman who already is quality. I am curious as to who you think should come in Funky? A Victorian perhaps? David Hussey? 8-[ All bias aside, yes. The blokes scored a shit ton of runs, at an average over 55. He scored 60 odd not out, against essentially the same attack that just tore the Aus batting to shreds. He deserves a shot. I mean yes he's 33, but FMD, Tendulkar is 37. And he's still got another 2/3 years in him. Mid 30's is no longer the barrier it once was. We could feasibly get a good 3/4 years out of Dussey.
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who are you Bill Lawry in disguise ;)
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The Doctor wrote:Funky Munky wrote:The Doctor wrote:who would you play instead of Ponting then since he's been ruled out as of today... Khawaja has shadowed for the team in Brisbane and Melbourne so he's the natrual next in line even if he maybe thrown in the deep end... and i don't think picking somebody 30+ would send the best of messages selection wise That's exactly what's gotten Australia into these problems in the first place though. Fuck age, Fuck random player recomendations for players who have played 5 games (Cheers Warnie), You pick your best XI, full stop. It doesn't matter if you're only going to get a year or two out of them, if it's a year or two of quality runs, you're better off. You don't pick the batsman who you hope will develop into a quality batsman, you pick the batsman who already is quality. Isn't that then sort of contradictory, you say that it'd be throwing Khawaja in the deep end although he's arguably the best going around in Shield cricket at the moment I think the word I was missing up there was 'proven'. Yes Khwaja is prob the best batsman in the Shield ATM, and yes, that's probably enough to get him picked. But in the end, He's still only got a season and a half experience. I just think it'd be better to give him more time, to prove he's not just a flash in the pan, give him some ODI's to test his Technique at the highest level, and then give him a Test spot.
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The Doctor wrote:who are you Bill Lawry in disguise ;) Pfft. Bill wishes he was as Pro-Victorian as I am:p
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Funky Munky wrote:The Doctor wrote:who are you Bill Lawry in disguise ;) Pfft. Bill wishes he was as Pro-Victorian as I am:p :lol: :lol:
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Benjo wrote:I'd take Hauritz over Beer, only change I'd make there. Agree that the selectors need a big shake-up. I thought Hauritz looked innocuous in India. Having said that he is still probably the best spinner we have. He may have performed better in Australia against England. I don't think there are many, if any, Shield players breaking the door down to play Test cricket. The selectors may have selected the best team available, apart from Hauritz.
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Decentric wrote:Benjo wrote:I'd take Hauritz over Beer, only change I'd make there. Agree that the selectors need a big shake-up. I thought Hauritz looked innocuous in India.Having said that he is still probably the best spinner we have. He may have performed better in Australia against England. I don't think there are many, if any, Shield players breaking the door down to play Test cricket. The selectors may have selected the best team available, apart from Hauritz. Find me a (Non-Indian) spinner who hasn't. I don't rate Hauritz that highly, but he did the job he was asked, had 2 poor tests because he got hit around by the best players of spin in the world, and was then dumped for it.
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I think the selectors have to realise that, yeah sure Hauritz isn't a top class spinner, but he's the best we have and he deserves to be given a fair go and an extended run in the team.
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I'd have to say we should leave Watto at the top of the order. I don't know, he's developped there, and he looks stable as first man in. Hughes could be dropped to 3, which would mean either Hussey or Punter into 4. As was mentioned, I'd be dropping Clarke quick smart, not just on form, but on being a selfrighteous prick.
My XI: Watson Hughes Katich Ponting Khawaja Hussey Haddin Smith Johnson Siddle Bollinger (when fit, if not, then Hilfenhaus)
The biggest problem isn't our ability to make runs - 250 can be enough in a first innings - we just have to be able to take 20 wickets cheaply, which is what we're failing at these days.
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We just need to clone and naturalise Murali. :D
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I'm convinced by Funky's argument about Smith not being our primary spinner...
but with the Hauritz argument i'd like to see how Beer or Doherty would go on the sub-continent compared to Hauritz, a player having a bad series in India is not an indication of there ability with either the bat or the ball, mind you when Hauritz in his debut in 04' away to India he took 5/103 for the match so although 6 years ago he has shown capability
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Not to mention Hauritz is a more then handy batsmen, which is very valuable in a bowler. Especially with the way our top order is.
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Quote:Fans say they don't want Michael Clarke as Australian cricket captain Andrew Webster From: The Daily Telegraph December 30, 2010 MICHAEL Clarke is the player favoured by Cricket Australia and bookmakers to replace Ricky Ponting in the highest office in Australian sport. But he looms as the most unpopular Test captain in recent memory after a poll of Daily Telegraph readers revealed only 15 per cent want him in the job. Instead, they overwhelmingly prefer NSW opening batsman Simon Katich - a bloke who has not played in the past two Tests with injury, is a remote chance of playing in the fifth Test in Sydney next week and, at 35, is in the twilight of his career. Clarke, 29, has been vice-captain for four years and was earmarked for the job before he played a Test. He remains firm favourite with Cricket Australia suits to assume the role, although full-time selector Greg Chappell showed a lack of faith in him during the Perth Test. Fans would prefer Katich, Ponting or Watson for the captaincy role. Anyone but Clarke. SEE THE RESULTS OF THE FANS' TEST SURVEY HERE Test legend Chappell said pointedly during the Perth Test: "If we're going to replace Ricky, we've got to make sure we've got someone that we're confident has the right frame of mind who can take over and do a good job. SACK THE LOT OF THEM SAY ANGRY FANS "And I don't know that we've got somebody that we feel we want to rush Ricky Ponting out the door at this moment. "There is nobody absolutely ready for it. I don't think there are too many other players I'd want to put that pressure on." DO THE FANS' TEST SURVEY HERE Cricket Australia boss James Sutherland, though, has publicly declared Clarke still has support in the corridors of power. Clarke's woeful average of 21 runs for the Ashes series could explain the lack of love from the public, but it is also the fact he has become tabloid fodder following his relationship then break-up with model fiancee Lara Bingle. He has also been conspicuous in his absence when dealing with the media throughout this Ashes series. After his controversial dismissal in the second innings in Adelaide, when he walked but stopped to refer the decision to the video umpire, he refused to speak but tweeted an apology as soon as his gloves were off. Australian fans want something harder from the next in line to captain the Test team. http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/cricket/fans-say-they-dont-want-michael-clarke-as-australian-cricket-captain/story-e6frey50-1225978291761
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I wouldn't have a problem with Katich leading the team. Watto is even softer than Clarke.
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Daily Telegraph Fans Survey... yeah because that's the height of intelligence... ROEBUCK FTW Quote:Clarke's woeful average of 21 runs for the Ashes series could explain the lack of love from the public, but it is also the fact he has become tabloid fodder following his relationship then break-up with model fiancee Lara Bingle. The Telegraph saying somebody has become tabloid fodder... *Jerry Seinfeld* Really?
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Funky Munky wrote:I wouldn't have a problem with Katich leading the team. Watto is even softer than Clarke. Captain Simon... have been saying that ever since he came into the team, he's built like Steve Waugh
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The Doctor wrote:Funky Munky wrote:I wouldn't have a problem with Katich leading the team. Watto is even softer than Clarke. Captain Simon... have been saying that ever since he came into the team, he's built like Steve Waugh Or give Peter Siddle the captaincy. He's a bit of a nut, but you'll notice he's always part of discussions about fields, and is usually at the bowlers mark encouraging the bowler and etc. Crazy, but i'd have him up their on the list above most of the side:p
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Funky Munky wrote:The Doctor wrote:Funky Munky wrote:I wouldn't have a problem with Katich leading the team. Watto is even softer than Clarke. Captain Simon... have been saying that ever since he came into the team, he's built like Steve Waugh Or give Peter Siddle the captaincy. He's a bit of a nut, but you'll notice he's always part of discussions about fields, and is usually at the bowlers mark encouraging the bowler and etc. Crazy, but i'd have him up their on the list above most of the side:p or maybe he's just Victorian ;)
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Funky Munky wrote:The Doctor wrote:Funky Munky wrote:I wouldn't have a problem with Katich leading the team. Watto is even softer than Clarke. Captain Simon... have been saying that ever since he came into the team, he's built like Steve Waugh Or give Peter Siddle the captaincy. He's a bit of a nut, but you'll notice he's always part of discussions about fields, and is usually at the bowlers mark encouraging the bowler and etc. Crazy, but i'd have him up their on the list above most of the side:p Since when was being Victorian part of the captaincy criteria:lol: :p
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:Funky Munky wrote:The Doctor wrote:Funky Munky wrote:I wouldn't have a problem with Katich leading the team. Watto is even softer than Clarke. Captain Simon... have been saying that ever since he came into the team, he's built like Steve Waugh Or give Peter Siddle the captaincy. He's a bit of a nut, but you'll notice he's always part of discussions about fields, and is usually at the bowlers mark encouraging the bowler and etc. Crazy, but i'd have him up their on the list above most of the side:p Since when was being Victorian part of the captaincy criteria:lol: :p It's the only criteria with Funky :lol:
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8-[
It's entirely left field, and probably would fail, but there are worse people to give it to:p
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Funky Munky wrote:8-[
It's entirely left field, and probably would fail, but there are worse people to give it to:p Mitchell Johnson
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The Doctor wrote:Funky Munky wrote:8-[
It's entirely left field, and probably would fail, but there are worse people to give it to:p Mitchell Johnson Steve Smith
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Funky Munky wrote:The Doctor wrote:Funky Munky wrote:8-[
It's entirely left field, and probably would fail, but there are worse people to give it to:p Mitchell Johnson Steve Smith Michael Beer
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:Funky Munky wrote:The Doctor wrote:Funky Munky wrote:8-[
It's entirely left field, and probably would fail, but there are worse people to give it to:p Mitchell Johnson Steve Smith Michael Beer Scott Muller
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The Doctor wrote:sydneycroatia58 wrote:Funky Munky wrote:The Doctor wrote:Funky Munky wrote:8-[
It's entirely left field, and probably would fail, but there are worse people to give it to:p Mitchell Johnson Steve Smith Michael Beer Scott Muller Ricky Ponting 8-[
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Funky Munky wrote:The Doctor wrote:sydneycroatia58 wrote:Funky Munky wrote:The Doctor wrote:Funky Munky wrote:8-[
It's entirely left field, and probably would fail, but there are worse people to give it to:p Mitchell Johnson Steve Smith Michael Beer Scott Muller Ricky Ponting 8-[ Nasser Hussain
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The Doctor wrote:Funky Munky wrote:The Doctor wrote:sydneycroatia58 wrote:Funky Munky wrote:The Doctor wrote:Funky Munky wrote:8-[
It's entirely left field, and probably would fail, but there are worse people to give it to:p Mitchell Johnson Steve Smith Michael Beer Scott Muller Ricky Ponting 8-[ Nasser Hussain Nass was a decent captain, just had shit support behind him:p
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