The Glorious Derby Returns
Staff
Tuesday, 4 January 2011
One of the if the biggest derbies in Australian football returns in a friendly pre-season match on Saturday the 5th Febraury at Knights Stadium.

Sydney United have started pre-season training in there hunt for success in the 2011 NSWPL with new coach Jean Paul De Marigny excited about being the First Grade coach in 2011 for Sydney United, in one of there first real test for the 2011 season Jean Paul is taking a full strength squad in Melbourne as not to give the bragging rights to United's, Melbourne arch-rivals the Knights.

The Knigths are hoping for a very large home crowd with club officials expecting somewhere close to 5-7 thousand in attendance for the big clash, this one will bring back some memories for the Knight fans, in the stands special guests will be Knights favourites Mark Viduka and Danny Tiatto who recently retired.

Kick off is at 6.30pm, entry is $10 and all 2011 Knights members get in for free.

http://www.therealgame.com.au/news/state-league/102/the-glorious-derby-returns

What a massive stretch to call this a derby. Rivalry yes. Derby no.

Two geographically diverse Croat teams /= derby.

Also, there /= their.

Kthxbai!!!

what crowd do we reckon theyll be?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Derby


You fail again.

guest, who did you support before the HAL?

Parramatta Power from the age of 9 till 14 when they were disbanded.

Always watched family friend playing Premier League for Melita as well so I guess I support them

Not that it matters. New fans to the game are just as good as NSL fans.

Edited by guest: 5/1/2011 10:52:42 AM

So your anger is because in old football you never got your way and now with new football you still not getting your way, fair enough.

Well enjoy parramatta eagles at the bottom of the NSWPL ladder in 2011

:-s :-s :-s

How did I not get my way? What was my way.

I got to enjoy quality football, watching a family friend captain my team to the last NSL grand final. It was wonderful.

Parra Eagles will do the club proud no matter where they finish this season and I can't wait to get along to Melita Stadium to watch some games as well as King Tom Stadium again this season.

The funny thing is all your hatred and spite of me for enjoying and supporting football in this country I am a paid member for a Victorian club (most succesful in Australia) who I like to support through membership because there fans aren't idiots and they are making steps forward and working with the FFA and A-League.

How so? Unless you're talking to Alex/Paoktzi/alter ego #7 ??

This. Though by appearances this might not actually be a Paoktzi multi :shock:

This "glorious" derby pulled a magnificent crowd of 1,876 the last time they clashed in Sydney in a NSL game...:)

i reckon theyll hit around 4k without publicity

times were different, the end was near for the NSL, the Crawford knives were out for all.. now in 2011 everyone gave the HAL a chance, and another, and Lowy a fistful of government dollars for a disgrace of a World Cup bid.. people are tired of the FFA's rubbish.

Instead of fixing the problem they replaced dumb administrators with malicious administrators.

People still love football and these traditional clubs and rivalries will be their voice, this is how the common man will stand up to the yoke of modern football and its soulselling epic-loss-making franchises

times were different, the end was near for the NSL, the Crawford knives were out for all.. now in 2011 everyone gave the HAL a chance, and another, and Lowy a fistful of government dollars for a disgrace of a World Cup bid.. people are tired of the FFA's rubbish.

Instead of fixing the problem they replaced dumb administrators with malicious administrators.

People still love football and these traditional clubs and rivalries will be their voice, this is how the common man will stand up to the yoke of modern football and its soulselling epic-loss-making franchises

The thing is, even at the height of the NSL, during its so-called golden years of the early nineties, the "glorious" derby between Melbourne Knights and Sydney United never attracted particularly large crowds. You can check the attendance figures on the ozfootball website to confirm this.

I'm sure two or three thousand people would be interested in attending a friendly between two state league clubs, and paying homage to their ethnic traditions at the same time... particularly if it were linked to a Croatian food and drink festival (I know I would be interested in that!)

But this no longer has anything to do with the elite level of club football in Australia, or the way the game is administrated at the top. Administrators may be still dumb, but... malicious(!?) Current day administrators are certainly no worse than the incompetents who ran the game in the past.

Of course people are still interested in keeping an interest in grassroots football alive... that is why there are hundreds and hundreds of amateur and semi-professional teams playing in the amateur and state leagues of the major Australian cities. Many of these teams exist purely because people want to play the game, and their only supporters are friends and relatives of the players.

Sydney and Melbourne Croatia, and Sydney Olympic for that matter, are of no more importance than hundreds of other clubs around Australia, which also have long traditions.

And, yeah, it's nice to make the odd quixotic gesture against "soul-selling franchises":lol:
But I don't think the formation of FC United in Manchester has had much effect in reducing Manchester United's crowds....!

localstar its this arrogance that will see sydney city lose $6million at season end and more people walk out and melbourne heart lose more than that and face extinction, good luck to your plasticity that your preaching b.s about

I'm talking about grassroots amateur football, and you are calling me plastic and arrogant!:lol: :lol: :lol:

You will notice that I didn't once mention the A League in my post above...

Feel free to bandy figures around, like some sort of amateur accountant, if it will help promote your paranoia...

You really need to take a long hard look at yourself and maybe seek medical help....



Edited by localstar: 6/1/2011 04:18:13 PM

what do you mean returns? It never left it, happens every year at Australian cro tournament

Shhhhhh! ultragirl is just learning about research and the internet. Next lesson is doctoring wiki crowd figures to back arguments.

cool story bro.

enjoy it when they smash olympic and your revolution fails again

relax son, u supported the rovers they died before they started now you want to support a club with 300 fans, come over to the blue and white and experience a match day experience that is called "real football"

hahahah you are a laugh. i grew up playing for melita. i grew up supporting them in the nsl days. so i dont 'now want to' support melita. i have my whole life. my favourite player growing up was jeff gunning who played for melita. RIP. and i have watched olympic every time they have played against blacktown city away and there was no experience from your away support. i would love to see you lot put on an experience, but no way in my life will i ever go for olympic

cheering. and LOL sydney rovers sydney what?

top blokes at Melita atm it was bs the way they got relegated. I wish the club well plenty of good memories at melita stadium

CMON OLYMPICCC

Olympic will be travelling in much bigger numbers, for the record i hear the club has booked two 72 seater buses for the first game Wollongong away

Also Bosnian tourneys! I was at one two weeks ago!

Oh my lord this should be a great match! I am looking forward to this one.
Atmosphere should be amazing.

who are the knights main players? i can tell you for Sydney United they are:

Luka Glavas
Jacob Timpano
Tomi Cirjak
Roger Galayani
Peter Markovic
Steven Hayes
Michael Cindric
Elsid Baksouird
Vedran Janjetovic
Damon Collina
Shane Lyons

Around 30+ United fans will be travelling for this match...

Should be good cannot wait...

You hear to much bullshit me thinks...:lol: :lol: :lol:

where is the fixture list for the new season? its not even out yet.

Prelimanry draw was released at www.kosmos.com.au a few weeks back and it had wollongong for us round 1

Round 1

http://60.241.173.43/kosmos/2010/12/16/page_20.pdf

Round 2

http://60.241.173.43/kosmos/2010/12/16/page_21.pdf

This is interesting...the draw you posted from the Kosmos newspaper link shows Sydney Olympic playing the Wolves at home at Belmore.

Who makes Olympic's travel arrangements? What will the 144 supporters booked on the two buses (A-League here we come!) do when they get to an empty Crehan Park?

Or are the buses booked to take the supporters from Belmore to Belmore? A quick trip along Canterbury Road perhaps and then back again?

Things don't really look too good for the start of the revolution.

I hope for Olympic's sake that things pick up. The A-League eagerly awaits such organisation.

um, what?

olympic play wolves in round 12 by the looks of things.

Us, Sydney United Supporters travelled by bus to wollongong last season, we organised our own bus, with no club help, was roughly around 40+ of us...that was a proper away day.

Another page in that article shows Wollongong and olympic will be revised as the clubs have both requested it as they both have big festivals on the day that they want to work in with.

Olympic will have a big festival in the city and Wollongong has one in Wollongong they want the people to come from the festa start to the park.

Do you have the link for the'other' page ultragirl as I am sure we are all interested?

its in greek

That wouldnt be hard... you'd only need to get 2 people to travel to an away match to "travel in much bigger numbers"

we still had large numbers of fans at edensor last year just not organised man

You had 10/15 at most scattered throughout the ground. Wouldnt call that "large numbers"

more 100/150 scattered

what BS:lol:

saying 15 of you were there is being kind. I saw Andrea and a few of his older friends, and maybe one or two Olympic fans...

Tell me, if Olympic played South Melbourne down in Melbourne, how many Olympic fans would travel besides Andrea? 0?

around 250

:lol: :lol:

The crowd for that game wouldnt have even been 1000... If there were that many of you there you would have stood out

I saw Andrea and two blokes in their 20s with blue and white scarves... that's it.

maybe they were incognito, you know like mystery shoppers....or ninja.

First get 250 solid supporters at home.

First get at least 30 supporters away from home.

First get at least 10 supporters to Edensor Park.

Before you make up 250 going away to Melb, FFS not even HAL supporters do that. :lol: :oops:

dont be silly of course there was 150 grci at edensor.
they were all casual cause they were afraid of the epu!

there was more croats at belmore then there was grci ffs...

Edited by S.U.S.: 14/1/2011 12:34:42 PM

the official figure from the club was 1950 for the game olympic v united

Official figure from the club - 1950
Real figure = 950

1950?????

fnsw site says 1822 and that was pumped up massively....
might have been the figure for the whole day incl. staff, junior and senior players etc but def wasnt the actual number watching the game!!!

a-league clubs put figures from hits on there websites lol

PAOKTZI???????:shock:

LOL hits in google too?

so that makes it ok for you lot to inflate numbers????

Too the Sydney United fan so there was 950
at BELMORE WHEN we played you guy

I wonder how many where at you game when we played
you guys Not more than 400


We have several games where we drew over 1000 plus people
Ive been to Edensor last five yeats and most cases a crowd
of 500 is the most you get with 20 per cent greeks


If you think im lying to the cros on here come to a few Olympic
games and you will see that we are easily the best supported
team in the Premier league

You guys didnt even have a thousand people in the semi
against Apia Man you guys are bagging Olympic crowd but
we easily get double the crowd you guys draw

Looks nice lol
but what about a picture behind the goals not from the club side

A LITTLE bit of concrete on the hill would be good

Can i see picture of the hill please What a dumb of a place

Bosna gets 10,000 to each home game=d> =d> =d>

yer there were around 950 at the game, with a few hundred of those supporters being Croatian. :lol:

We know what numbers we get 700-1000 if we are lucky... i dont multiply my figures by 10 like your lot.

Actually it was only a few seasons ago, where we beat olympic at home in injury time, the crowd that day was close too 2000. & you would of been lucky to see 20 olympic fans.

To say your the best supported club in the NSWPL, is laughable, you havent proved nothing yet.

Maybe we didnt get 1000 to our semi, but we where there, as for your lot? where were you? mmmmm....

ONE WEEK TO GO. :cool:

cant.fucking.wait!

Can I please see a picture of a ground that Olympic own?

over 5,000 are expect at this point for the match

should be good

imagine if this was televised on SBS fark me

:lol:

Crowd will be about 2k

not according to knights people

we own a lease that has us there for 50 years we dont need to do working bees to do repairs we have others doing it for us

Do you or do you not OWN a ground?

we have such a good deal its better than owning a ground

OLYMPIC IS TERRIFIC

oh, ive heard it all now. :lol: :lol: :lol:

:lol:

This would definitely get some good ratings if it was on SBS, but they but they do not have the private marketing concepts to pull this stuff off.

But would love to be home next Sunday watching this one live on SBS would be interesting to say the least

i want what ever drugs this kid is on!!!

UltraGIRL, how many Olympic Supporters do you think would travel to Melbourne, if you were to face South Melbourne?

wasnt it about 1000???? thats what s/he said last time!!!!

around 300-500 not as group as a club people of all ages and all financial situations.

As a supporters group around 50

you cant get 50 to Edensor and you think you'll get 50 to melbourne...

who are you trying to kid?

were not poor cunts bro every olympic person i know owns more than 1 house

whats that got to do with travelling away to Edensor?

as you guys dont pull crowds anymore its not as exiting but you people dont listen your trying to sell us this your content bs buts its not ture you guys miserable but wont admit it at leats were changing things

I DONT READ GIBBERISH!
please try and construct a sentece so i know what you are trying to say....

if Sydney United was getting decent crowds and not 800 people then the Olympic people would respect them as a club and come in big numbers.

But if only 800 united fans are going to be there whats there to see?

Fuck you can talk some shit. :oops:

I don't like farms, thats why I don't like King Tom.... But now it's full of housing, and is no longer a chicken coop :(

Sick Ultras, pick and choose 2 away trips all season...

Anyways back on topic in hand... We (Sydney United Supporters) will show you that we are still the superior fans in NSWPL after our Melbourne Trip.!

SAMO CROACIJA!

lol relax man this is a big game for your club stop making it out like its massive that you guys are going lol

i dont need to prove anything, the way we see it is, its just another game for us. :cool:

Knights won on the day 1-0.

It was United's first pre season friendly while the knights had about 8 or 9... fitness got the better of us at the end of the day...

Was raining throughout the day, was hoping the weather would of been better...

Around 20+ United supporters travelled to the match.

http://www.melbourneknights.com.au/TheClub/Galleries/tabid/96/AlbumID/416-93/Default.aspx

ethnics! oh noes..

stupid FFA scabs.. well done edensor park boys