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Decentric wrote:For anybody who has not tried to do this, it is often so difficult to get a lot of recently arrived migrants playing club football.
Most Aussies, with English as a first language, would have assistance from parents to play at junior or youth level.
In migrant families, the adults often have very limited English, cannot read maps and have no transport. Clubs often expect players to simply turn up, but just getting to training and games is a massive event. But managed to find Australia on the world map no problems !!
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For anybody who has not tried to do this, it is often so difficult to get a lot of recently arrived migrants playing club football.
Most Aussies, with English as a first language, would have assistance from parents to play at junior or youth level.
In migrant families, the adults often have very limited English, cannot read maps and have no transport. Clubs often expect players to simply turn up, but just getting to training and games is a massive event.
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It looks like now, from some excellent ground work by a former CFP coach, and now V League youth coach, a big V League club, with strong ethnic origins, is willing to embrace the migrant players.
Our club is too far out in the sticks. This one is based right in the heartland. The committee is willing to drastically reduce fees. They will reap the benefits with the best recruiting ground in the state.
It looks like the Community Football Program will no longer need to exist.:)
Another C Licence course participant, has set up a strong technical structure in this club for the youth program. This is very pleasing. Even early last year, there was an omnipresent strong British, physical style of coaching in this particular club. It looks to be taking shape as a contemporary football club .=d> Other clubs need to follow their lead.
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Decentric wrote:As an adjunct to the previous post, I've been offered the job of Southern Tasmanian head coach of under 14 boys, only one tier below the Tasmanian under 14 rep team! The other two regions are North and North- West. South is the biggest region.
This team is one of three rep teams that provides players for the state under 14 team.
Bizarre really, I was looking at a rep coaching position to ensure the viability of the CFP and competition for some of our club teams. I applied for any position from under 12 reps up to under 15s, but as an assistant coach, co-coach or head coach, for either gender. I wasn't particularly concerned.
I have been observed a lot lately by the FFA state powers that be, in coaching courses and conferences. I didn't expect this though!
There is also a chance to work with the Australian under 20 men's assistant coach too quite a lot this coming season.
This is a much bigger job than I was aiming for. :oops: I was aiming for another tier lower, the under 12 SAP rep teams, which comprise about 7 regions.
Edited by Decentric: 13/12/2012 11:04:43 PM Cograts mate, best of luck.
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As an adjunct to the previous post, I've been offered the job of Southern Tasmanian head coach of under 14 boys, only one tier below the Tasmanian under 14 rep team! The other two regions are North and North- West. South is the biggest region.
This team is one of three rep teams that provides players for the state under 14 team.
Bizarre really, I was looking at a rep coaching position to ensure the viability of the CFP and competition for some of our club teams. I applied for any position from under 12 reps up to under 15s, but as an assistant coach, co-coach or head coach, for either gender. I wasn't particularly concerned.
I have been observed a lot lately by the FFA state powers that be, in coaching courses and conferences. I didn't expect this though!
There is also a chance to work with the Australian under 20 men's assistant coach too quite a lot this coming season.
This is a much bigger job than I was aiming for. :oops: I was aiming for another tier lower, the under 12 SAP rep teams, which comprise about 7 regions.
Edited by Decentric: 13/12/2012 11:04:43 PM
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For weird reasons, I could be coaching a rep team this year, but, as a base to ensure the success of the CFP.
In the FFA Grass Roots course, when we trained up 13 migrant coaches. I noted the ability of a young SAP/NTC player who was also doing it, to follow instructions and quickly adapt to drills.
Sometimes when we have large groups of migrants together, particularly if they are familiar with each other beforehand, training intensity and listening skills are poor.
The idea then occurred to me the amalgamation of a rep team and the migrants as training ground opposition. Some of our club players just don't want to do the work to improve individually and collectively as footballers. Some are just social footballers. Nothing wrong with that, but they don't want training ground work on structure.
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spathi wrote:Im assuming they were Tassie NTC players? No. If a player is currently in the NTC program, they are not allowed to play any other football at all.
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Im assuming they were Tassie NTC players?
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I've covered a bit of this in the Technical Director's thread.
We had an interesting mismatch of players we haven't met before coming to CFP from local primary schools and junior clubs, and, the adolescent refugees from one migrant community. Five other migrant community leaders have not turned up to MRC meetings. Hence, they are unaware of the existence of CFP. This unreliability is pretty common apparently.
It was a tough session trying to balance the training to cater for all. We had enough coaches to supervise two SSGs of 5v 5, 4v4 with keepers.
Surprisingly it was a resounding success, apart from a lack of intensity form the adolescent migrants.
We did a lot of specific dribbling work, incorporated into more of a SkiIls Acquisition/Skillaroo style. That is, less isolated technique instruction.
After this session, rather than rondos or player in the soups (Arsenal drills from Dirk's sticky), we went staright into 4v4 SSGs, with keepers.
1. With the adolescent refugees it started off as a shooting game.
2. Possession game - the instruction was for all players, including keepers, had to touch the ball before a team could shoot.
3. Then as well as all players having to touch the ball before a tean could shoot, it became two touch maximum. At the state conference, SAP and NTC coaches sometimes mandate two touches every time - no more no less, to focus on first touch.
4. Then it became a one touch game. Players had to have good body shape before they touched the ball. The players had never done it before and it was very challenging. Players struggled to open passing lanes before a team-mate received the ball.
The younger kids had similar instructions, apart from one and two touch games . I used Krones suggestion if any player hadn't scored a goal. Everybody had to play through them until they scored. Thanks Krones. It always works a treat.:) All kids scored more than one goal.
Hopefully, we will have a few senior club split state league, or even V League, players next week to increase the intensity of the refugees. The migrants all know each other pretty well.
I should have three assistant coaches too. One is a split state league senior women's coach.
The coaches are all young enough to play , which helps for numbers.
Edited by Decentric: 7/11/2012 08:25:05 PM
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Decentric wrote: I'm meeting the state FFA TD and the state FFA Development Officer (also head state SAP coach and co-writer of the FFA SAP with Han Berger) on Friday. This will be a precursory meeting, before a big MRC meeting next week. I'll take the state FFA TD and state FFA Development officer to the MRC meeting.
Gee, how things have changed since the original concept was conceived a few years ago for CFP! CFP continues to evolve. Again this meeting was very productive. FFA state Development Officer will train refugee football leaders in their communities in Grass Roots and Junior Licence for reduced fees. The state FFA TD and I , with a few other coaches and officials from other clubs, will run three open sessions for refugees from all over the south of the state. The idea is that officials, who embrace inclusion in their clubs, will be able to meet refugee players. The idea is not to have officials trying to hand pick talented players for their clubs, but to take clusters of players. The state FFA TD also suggested we operate these sessions in a a park where players may informally continue to turn up and play at the same time and place on an informal and ongoing basis after the three sessions. CFP will also continue on an ongoing basis to pick up refugee players interested in formal coaching on a weekly basis after the event.
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Decentric wrote:Just completed a coaching session in a very remote region in the state. It was for local coaches to observe coaching sessions and to give local players a different opportunity. Ages ranged from 8-35.
In this area there are isolated rural towns with a number of adult and junior players. They just simply play mixed social games. They were particularly responsive to any coaching from a metropolitan centre trained coach. They compete in a second tier rep state championship for rural areas. Sadly, they don't play any weekly competitive football.
I think I'll run it past the state FFA TD about the possibility of starting a 5 a side competition in this region. I think one town could almost provide two teams in some age groups/adults and two other towns may be able to operate one team each.
State FFA would also gain more registration fees too. They would also have a much more receptive audience about contemporary coach education, than some of the recalcitrant urban coaches.
Had a very productive meeting with state TD about this concept. It looks like it is a real goer. A five a side competition for 3 remote towns under the auspices of FFA.:) . The state FFA Development Officer will train local coaches in this remote area for Grass Roots, followed by FFA Junior Licence. The three of us will meet with reps from the three towns to get it up and running and form clubs.
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Been pretty busy with CFP in the last few weeks, with logistics and organisation.
We have a bus driver who is on holiday. He drives the Migrant Resource Centre bus. He has been excellent. The bloke has assumed a father figure to some of the refugees, many who have lost fathers. We need a replacement for about a month.
I'm meeting the state FFA TD and the state FFA Development Officer (also head state SAP coach and co-writer of the FFA SAP with Han Berger) on Friday. This will be a precursory meeting, before a big MRC meeting next week. I'll take the state FFA TD and state FFA Development officer to the MRC meeting.
This is a follow up to a precursory meeting with MRC and a few migrant community leaders last week. It was quite illuminating.
The MRC will have a number of migrant community leaders, with their nominated football coaches from their communities. The state FFA TD and I am organising the state FFA Development Officer to train migrant coaches.
MRC and CFP, are keen to train coaches so that it becomes sustainable. Migrants also meed role models within their local communities. We will train many migrants in Grass Roots coaching courses through FFA. Ensuing this, will be a number who will go through FFA Junior LIcences.
The big MRC meeting will be trying to induce FFA to lower their fees, to try and facilitate more migrants playing in clubs. State FFA wants more players. Migrants want to play with clubs. All the pieces are there. The puzzle just needs to be put together.:)
Edited by Decentric: 22/10/2012 11:48:24 PM
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General Ashnak wrote:Judy Free wrote:General Ashnak wrote:You are aware that he is now a club TD? :lol: Wasn't he also once the TD of his kindergarten class little lunch kickabouts? Can't beat a lofty title in a one man show. Pretty similar to your history, coached a bunch of kids over a period of time and a couple of them made eventually. =d> Can't say I can match D's big career highlight.... Quote:There was one big success story though. One player has improved immeasurably since starting CFP. Initially we couldn't get him to receive the ball with furthest foot. Edited by judy free: 21/9/2012 11:41:08 PM
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Decentric wrote:Judy Free wrote:Bump
Don't let this epic thread die, jogo.
How's trix? I'll see you on Anarchy in the imminent future, Chips. As decentric or jogo bonito? Always loved your vast stable of multis, particularly back in TWG days, when I was a moderator and you had no clue about IP addresses. :lol: Edited by judy free: 21/9/2012 11:17:17 PM
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chicko1983 wrote:Judy Free wrote:General Ashnak wrote:You are aware that he is now a club TD? :lol: Wasn't he also once the TD of his kindergarten class little lunch kickabouts? Can't beat a lofty title in a one man show. out of curiosity JF, what was/is your position when you were/are coaching football? One of the points made sensibly, and persuasively, by the current FFA coaching TD and his assistant in this state, is that one should update one's knowledge all the time. Earlier in this year, and during last year, I was pretty annoyed they wouldn't accept that I'd done KNVB training. Since, one of the participants of the KNVB, a FFA staff coach in another state, is a mate of these guys and it seems like communication has occurred. Now at clinics, workshops, the local coaching hierarchy can see that I'm familiar with the KNVB terminology used in the FFA NC. In addition, I use it on the training ground. Moreover, I've taken on board the need to constantly update one's coaching practices. Trends/methodology change, sometimes in a short time. Analogies have been sagely made with my professional teaching career, from FFA staff coaches/instructors. The better FFA instructors promulgate the view that one can learn something from any course/session. Every session is a learning opportunity. I must admit I've willingly embraced this notion. That is why I'm surprised that Judy Free, who has not successfully completed any football coaching course since the early nineties, is so willing to pontificate on coaching issues. Other than failing a FFA Youth Licence, a very, very basic FFA Community Coaching qualification, he has done nothing to update his coaching knowledge in decades, actively discouraging others from doing so too. Most coaches who participate on this forum have a minimum of a Youth Licence, or the badge above - FFA Senior Licence. Some have studied FFA Advanced Coaching courses too. Judy Free has also perplexingly excoriated the Australasian Soccer Academy, where one of his mates coaches. The two ASA coaches have FFA/Asian Confed B and C Licence respectively - pro and semi-pro qualifications, recognised anywhere in the world. FFA should at least endorse academies if they have accredited FFA coaches. Edited by Decentric: 21/9/2012 04:18:26 PM
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At the moment we are moving the Community Football Program to an outer suburban/rural school for the spring season.
There are a lot of potential players for our club in this area. ATM they are in the catchment zone of one of Tasmania's new state league clubs - the V League. We intend to bus the refugees down to this school, about 25 minutes out of the CBD.
We also had a bit of a catastrophe with a futsal game. The combined refugee/club futsal mens' team played in the Vikings futsal roster. A number of parents from a state underage female team threatened the players on the pitch. I wasn't there. I've already experienced these parents before, as I coached their daughters in a rep team.
Most of the refugees have been too frightened to play in the futsal roster since.
There was one big success story though. One player has improved immeasurably since starting CFP. Initially we couldn't get him to receive the ball with furthest foot. He also played with his head down too much.
He worked on improving those facets of his game. In a semi-final he scored a hat trick on a losing team, not helped by only having four players on the pitch. He now receives the ball with his furthest foot on both sides of his body, and, is more adept at keeping his head up when on the ball, hence improving vision and decision making.
Another club is running a twilight 11v11 competition in spring. We have asked for fees to be waived. It seems the club can't avoid FFA Public Liability costs if the players are not already registered.
We also have mixed teams in this roster, comprising English as first language speaking Aussies and refugees.
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Judy Free wrote:Bump
Don't let this epic thread die, jogo.
How's trix? I'll see you on Anarchy in the imminent future, Chips. Since you've posted a thread maligning stats, a few aspersions may need to be clarified. You'll also find that by me becoming a member of Anarchy, someone you think is me, isn't.:roll:
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Judy Free wrote:General Ashnak wrote:You are aware that he is now a club TD? :lol: Wasn't he also once the TD of his kindergarten class little lunch kickabouts? Can't beat a lofty title in a one man show. Pretty similar to your history, coached a bunch of kids over a period of time and a couple of them made eventually. =d>
The thing about football - the important thing about football - is its not just about football. - Sir Terry Pratchett in Unseen Academicals For pro/rel in Australia across the entire pyramid, the removal of artificial impediments to the development of the game and its players. On sabbatical Youth Coach and formerly part of The Cove FC
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Judy Free wrote:General Ashnak wrote:You are aware that he is now a club TD? :lol: Wasn't he also once the TD of his kindergarten class little lunch kickabouts? Can't beat a lofty title in a one man show. out of curiosity JF, what was/is your position when you were/are coaching football?
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General Ashnak wrote:You are aware that he is now a club TD? :lol: Wasn't he also once the TD of his kindergarten class little lunch kickabouts? Can't beat a lofty title in a one man show.
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You are aware that he is now a club TD?
The thing about football - the important thing about football - is its not just about football. - Sir Terry Pratchett in Unseen Academicals For pro/rel in Australia across the entire pyramid, the removal of artificial impediments to the development of the game and its players. On sabbatical Youth Coach and formerly part of The Cove FC
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Bump
Don't let this epic thread die, jogo.
How's trix?
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Just completed a coaching session in a very remote region in the state. It was for local coaches to observe coaching sessions and to give local players a different opportunity. Ages ranged from 8-35.
In this area there are isolated rural towns with a number of adult and junior players. They just simply play mixed social games. They were particularly responsive to any coaching from a metropolitan centre trained coach. They compete in a second tier rep state championship for rural areas. Sadly, they don't play any weekly competitive football.
One female player of 12 improved about 50% technically, just by suggesting she stay on her toes in preparation for receiving the ball. Her footwork improved dramatically over the course of the afternoon.
One local coach wanted to take the players for a lap warm up jog. I countermanded this practice explaining that it was anathema to FFA NC and KNVB.
I think I'll run it past the state FFA TD about the possibility of starting a 5 a side competition in this region. I think one town could almost provide two teams in some age groups/adults and two other towns may be able to operate one team each.
State FFA would also gain more registration fees too. They would also have a much more receptive audience about contemporary coach education, than some of the recalcitrant urban coaches.
I think our club, plus the Community Football Program, might take three coaches and about ten players of mixed gender on an end of season trip to this area.
Edited by Decentric: 31/7/2012 11:39:00 PM
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Judy Free wrote:Bugger me. :lol:
Keep an eye out for the men in white coats, decentric.
Edited by judy free: 21/7/2012 11:04:32 PM You need to be careful that ECP doesn't read that or you never know what may happen...
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Judy Free wrote:Bugger me. :lol:
Keep an eye out for the men in white coats, decentric.
Edited by judy free: 21/7/2012 11:04:32 PM :lol:
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Bugger me. :lol:
Keep an eye out for the men in white coats, decentric.
Edited by judy free: 21/7/2012 11:04:32 PM
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Good to hear D, keep it up - will have to send a thank you to FFA for continuing to take an interest in what you are trying to achieve and don't feel guilty for continuing the good work that started with anothers idea, keep acknowledging him and you will continue to bear fruit :)
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I was contacted by FFA today, mooting the link up of CFP with a national organisation involved with refugees and football. This national organisation operates in partnership with FFA. It has secured quite a lot of commonwealth government funding and has existed for 3-4 years.
At this point in time, the only money CFP wants is for someone to pay refugees' registration fees for club football.
I have been pleasantry surprised that FFA have been proactive in pushing CFP forward. I think there is a drive to increase participants in football. Too many refugees who play football are outside the system. There are a couple of stakeholders in FFA who are pretty interested and empathetic to migrant football. In turn this will generate more participants playing under the jurisdiction of FFA.
I also think national FFA were contacted by 442's General Ashnak informing them of CFP. This may have helped our cause coming from a different source. I am now also perceived as being within the FFA system as I may have completed eight FFA coaching courses by next January. Also, I've organised a dozen coaches to undertake FFA courses in our club. I must admit I'm shocked at how reluctant many local coaches are to attend FFA courses and workshops, many which are free.
This is an exciting development.:)
Ironically the coach who conceived the whole CFP project has no involvement anymore. His only involvement is with a club team. I'm simply putting all his good ideas into practice.
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https://sites.google.com/site/youthsoccerlessonplans/executive-docsLast night we worked on a lot of ball carrying with the head up, shooting and specific evasion techniques as well as endurance. There was a also a focus on quicker decision making and teams moving the ball more quickly. One exercise I highly recommend is the number 16 drill in the Dutch /Ajax Academy sessions. I've seen Phil Moss, assistant Mariners coach, do this with the NTC, Tassie branch. Hiddink and Verbeek did it a lot with the Socceroos. Arnold uses it a lot with CCM. Last night I set it up in a diamond formation, four little goals shaped in a diamond shape, with one other little goal in the middle of the diamond. The aim was to have 4v4 , but numbers dictated we had 6v6 with a fickle player. It was just okay, but some players weren't involved enough. It is great for switching play quickly. Too few of the players last night have the vision to switch play quickly. Many of the refugees are good on the ball, but take too many touches in scenarios when they need to move it more quickly. They have had little structured coaching. We had 13 players, so I tried making three teams of four with two balls.The trouble was that one team nearly always had some uncontested ball. I think it could have been better if we had a few more experienced split state league female players with good vision. It is certainly good for fitness. As soon as players score in one goal they need to switch it to another. Another useful scenario from the KNVB is to have a SSG shooting game. Players often try to score fairly quickly. Then keep exactly the same game, but set a rule of every player in a team, including the keeper, needing to touch the ball before they shoot. This also encourages ball hogs to take one and two touches and players to create passing lanes more proactively. I encourage players to take players on, but at the right time. It is interesting to see the improvement in teamwork over about 20 minutes with the 'every player in a team must touch the ball before shooting' rule. Edited by Decentric: 3/7/2012 11:27:11 AM
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CFP continues to evolve.
We've had some outstanding training sessions lately (after a couple of shockers) with a good combination of Skips, and, English as a Foreign Language speakers.
The Migrant Resource Centre bus has an excellent volunteer who is very interested in the welfare of new arrivals in Australia. One can also see the development in football terms of some of the more regular CFP attendants, the EFL speakers. They seem to spend a lot more time than locals honing their skills in between CFP training sessions. A number of players are improving in both footedness and receiving the ball with the furthest foot. Two of them have improved so much they are too good for the Division 2 under 15 and under 17 leagues respectively.
A couple of split state league players are so disillusioned with their club training (running without the ball, push ups, etc) they've dropped down a few divisions in outdoor so they can avoid the dross they do on the training track.](*,) Instead they play CFP and in more casual futsal teams for training. What is more they are improving skills by avoiding split state league training.](*,) How stupid is this? Many old guard coaches do their FFA courses in the New Curriculum, then it all goes out the window when they leave the course.](*,)
We have a meeting with MRC where a few thousand dollars may be accessed of Commonwealth money. This is for the express purpose of paying sports club registration fees for refugees. Our club is rural. The club is willing to take players of any ability. The refugees perceive 40 minutes travelling is a very long time.
If the migrant communities would take more of a lead in assisting in transportation I think we could provide teams at the club for any player who wants a game. The different phenomenon from Skips, is that nearly all the refugee players work on their game anyway, because they play so much football in a social setting.
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