I'm loathe to post this sort of stuff on here, vindicating any credentials I have. Unfortunately, some of the old cynical stalkers seem to have resurfaced.

Sorry if this offends any regular 442 members who post on this site.



Try this for 'experience', Chips.

*I've coached an under 12 rep team to a state championship. I've only done this once. Hence, I have 100% success record against coaches who've coached for 20 years plus. Also, half the team was one year underage. Moreover, they were easily the smallest team. Only half the team were really good enough for the competition.

* Taken sessions as one of a panel of four coaches with two state underage teams.

* Coached a female premier league team on occasions last year. Premier league is the highest level of competition in this state.

* Coached one player who made the Australian youth team and is currently in the Australian train- on squad. That player was the top scorer for the national under 15s on a Chinese tour.

* Coached one player who made the Australian Vikings futsal team, the year after I finished coaching that player.

* Coached a number of players who have been/are currently in the state National Training Centre programme, the year after I coached them. Only the best 20 players are selected in each state for all age groups.

* Coached suburban junior teams for 6 years.

* Coached another player who plays semi-professional football in the US college system in the second top team in that state.

* Coached five players from two junior club teams who made state underage teams for youth.

* Managed a women's seven a side team to a championship for the southern half of the state.

* I'm currently taking a portable soccer school to premier league clubs to assist and demonstrate effective methodology for coaching youth . Of the other three coaches, in the football school, one has represented Egypt and played for AEK Athens and a current C Licence holder, and another has 40 years experience in the game with a current FFA Senior Licence.. If I was useless, they wouldn't be coaching with me. They're also very keen to learn KNVB methodology.

* I've been in underage state squads as a player.

* I'm also a trained teacher of 27 years experience. This enhances the coaching of football. Every day as a teacher one is looking at improving teaching methodology. This has benefits when a professional teacher coaches football.

I have also learnt a considerable amount from about 10 other peer coaches who coach at senior/youth /junior level. I will probably continue to learn from them.


Also Chips, note how one of my KNVB course participants, Arthur Papas, has had considerable recent success as a professional coach. He thought the match analysis part was excellent. Arthur found the KNVB course to be very useful.






Edited by Decentric: 9/4/2011 11:30:19 PM

Edited by Decentric: 14/4/2011 09:23:16 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukyb3Z28JDI


Here is another Barca Academy exercise for those who've PMed me asking for more.


For kids starting, move the square closer to the goal. Also, have the player face the goal before turning and shooting.

When they are confident at shooting front on, introduce the turn and shoot.

http://www.wonderhowto.com/how-to-do-nike-solo-control-soccer-drill-319622/


This is a Barca Academy, Sole Control, precursor to the previous drill.

This is just solo control without the shot. Note trapping with the inside and outside of the foot.

For struggling players just get them to put the ball up a little way into the air for the high juggle before trapping.

Krones, this is an easier version of the first Barca Solo Control and Shoot.


Edited by Decentric: 10/4/2011 08:35:56 PM

And this is the ONLY experience you can rightly put on your CV without appearing to be a total w@nker. The rest, at best, is just fancifull guff in a lame effort to beat up an otherwise vacuous CV. And, at worst, highly disrespectful to those players you claim to have 'made' after a few kickabouts. I don't know any half-decent, semi-serious coach who would ever go to those lengths to trump themselves up as you have.

So, we all know about your success in the U12 girls 6 game gala day festivities, otherwise known as Tasmanian state champs (arf). The chest-beating went on for months. I recall you even started to seriously compare yourself to Arsene Wenger, on the basis that you were once school teachers and had a liking for stats. You even emailed the FFA (Berger etc) to advise them of this brilliant new dawn of soccer emerging in Tasmania. Anyhow, I digress. Your success in this U12's gala day pickup series is worthy of inclusion on your CV. Tick.

Now, as to your claimed other 6 years of experience. This was, of course, in the school playground (where you took kindergarten classes). I know this simply because you told us yourself (no point you now re-writing history). Your 6 years was at infants and primary school level. That is, not suburban club teams played under Football Tasmania. Why you are now distancing yourelf from this fact is a bit of a mystery.

That's it, no more, zilch, nothing, nought. Whilst I understand we all have to start somewhere, you seem to believe that you skipped 5 or 6 levels on the basis of the 'above' experience. As I said, might be easy to convince a few new dawn dullards, but for the majority, no chance. :lol:

And please please don't get me started on your bwazillian soccer schools rubbish, as there's a pretty good chance I could further extend the embarrassment.

Tip; by all means get out there and coach but suggest you quickly lose the superiority complex - you are a long way from elite company and many years experience short of attempting to preach from the pulpit.



Edited by judy free: 10/4/2011 08:17:48 AM

:lol:

I will try this within the hour
cheers

So this is where the bitterness comes from, Chips?

The only comments I made about rep team success at state championships were in response to the likes of you, and a few deluded acolytes, refuting KNVB methodology. I also suggest anyone else learning it, will probably derive considerable benefit.

I hate to be pedantic, Chips, but I think that rep team played about 18-20 matches over the course of a season.


I've never emailed Han Berger lauding any achievement.

I quoted that Arsene Wenger and Valery Lobanovski were adherents of football stats. Moreover, I posited that other top Euro coaches were following Wenger's lead. Read Simon Kuper's Soccernomics. I never suggested I was a peer of luminaries like those. That assertion is preposterous!!!

I also don't see coaching as a competitive pursuit. The more of us, like Aussierus, Andy J., Krones, FMVS, Arthur, et al, share information and coaching methodology, the more young footballers around the country benefit. Pooling knowledge is productive.

It also gives prospective coaches of the future, like General A, the chance to assimilate and implement methodology disseminated in this
Performance Section.

In our KNVB coaching course most of the participants came from SE Queensland, northern NSW, Sydney and Melbourne. From this forum I've discovered more about what may be happening in suburban clubs in Victoria and far north Queensland. I have little knowledge of the South Australian and Western Australian football coaching milieus. Hopefully, a few coaches from those states will join us on here.

Chips, instead of trying to pour a bucket of the proverbial on the rest of us, why don't you engage in constructive dialogue with other coaches on this forum? As one of Australia's top NTC coaches suggested to me, one can learn from any coaching workshop.






Edited by Decentric: 10/4/2011 05:14:30 PM

Edited by Decentric: 12/4/2011 06:57:18 PM

This 6 years of experience came from coaching two club teams in one of Hobart's suburban regions. They were teams from under 7, under 8, under, 9, under 10, under 11 and under 12 age groups in successive years. Junior schools and clubs are essentially synonymous in the Tasmanian football milieu. Clubs are school -based.

I was a parent roped in to coach, like many others. I was always seeking advice from more experienced and knowledgeable coaches. I found two sound junior coaching books and used them as primary sources of reference.

I was a plodding suburban coach in those 6 years. I never promoted myself as a paragon of coaching excellence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XN61V4MC0k&feature=player_embedded

http://www.videojug.com/film/the-ronaldo-step-over


What other sources of systematic, sequential instruction are available to learn Brazilian deception and turning techniques other than BSS?

Very clearly set out what is wrong with the Ronaldo and elastic techniques as demonstrated in the BSS techniques I have linked to videos on this thread? They are the two videos I have linked in this post.

As a development coach what would you do instead of teaching players the same techniques?

If you wouldn't use them, why? What would you use instead?

If you agree with the value of the techniques, how would you demonstrate them differently to the way they have been presented in these videos to your players?

I've seen the elastics used successfully time and again in top level football. I haven't seen the Ronaldo used as often.

Coerver may have them in their techniques.





Edited by Decentric: 10/4/2011 02:52:27 PM

Never have I claimed any superiority complex.

I may be the least innately talented coach in Australia. All I've attempted to do is my best to help young footballers.

If a plodder like me can use KNVB methodology with success, imagine what a paragon of innate football coaching talents, like you, could do with access to the same methodology?

What has amazed me is that given your exalted status in the Australian football milieu, you have been unable to answer any theoretical or methodological question I've put to you since I've done KNVB training in the last few years.

Chips, feel free to contact me via PM on 442 if you visit Tasmania to have a look at our soccer school and suggest improvements. I look forward to it.



Edited by Decentric: 10/4/2011 03:54:59 PM

Coerver may have them in their techniques.

Cor Van Dijk does some age specific ala KNVB technique exercises .

http://vodpod.com/watch/3213130-andres-iniesta-la-croqueta



This was the last video I saw from the Barcelona Academy series I saw some time ago.

This is simple dribbling with the inside to inside of the foot. It is one of the simplest moves. Little can go wrong, but there is little body deception to wrong foot opponents.

It exemplifies the point made by Sydney Croatia et al about not having to do complex step overs like Christiano and innumerable Brazilian players do, to deceive opponents.

Are there any links, Dirk?

A lot of links to Coerver I've seen are accessible only by paying money.

Edited by Decentric: 10/4/2011 04:47:06 PM

You must excuse chips
Some of his mates got caught with their hand in the money jar.

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It sounds good, Krones.

Can you construct a diagram?

I have poor spatial awareness.

Many of those exercises in the Dutch Soccer Drills books I recommended are probably good, but they are complicated to work out.

http://www.bettersoccermorefun.com/dwtext/knvbgmes.htm


These are the basic 4x4 SSGs that KNVB use to impart different aspects of technique and insight to developing players.

Agreed.

I quite regularly find myself during a game juggling the ball back and forth with a team mate. We can usually get to around 30 before letting it bounce.

Had I have had a quality coaching program like the one you are offering in my junior years, I'm confident that number could be well over 50.

On a side note, I think the lack of two person juggling at elite professional level is a real blight on the modern game.

Edited by minsterman: 10/4/2011 05:28:48 PM

Ah now we're truly getting somewhere - forum title should be re-named "lifting the lid on decentric".

So, after six years of plodding (coaching your daughter's school team), fast forward 12 months and you're now launching a "portable soccer school of excellence" ?

Never would have happened in past epochs.

How did you manage to rocket yourself into such a lofty role (apart from a tidal wave of interweb self-promotion) on so little coaching experience?



:lol:

Troll.

I thought you had more class than to be an acolyte of Chips, MM.

Receiving the ball at a horizontal/ diagonal angle simulates match conditions when receiving the ball in training sessions than juggling individually.

One also establishes training ground exercises where players control the ball in as few touches as possible.

Edited by Decentric: 10/4/2011 06:11:39 PM

Forum title would have been renamed something different if fellow soccer school coaches had been members of this forum.

As it is, Andy, has launched a thread about his rep team coaching foray. I've started a thread on a different coaching venture.

Decentric's Soccer School would have had a different title if the other coaches had been 442 participants.

Note, yet again, Chips, you've responded to no methodological questions I've asked you. Your mode of response is to attack the person.

Feel free to appraise the starting post in the thread. It is far from perfect, as it was designed for coaches to appraise a range of advanced techniques- not the perfect training ground paradigm by any means.

There are also two points of difference from being a plodding suburban coach some years ago.

I've viewed almost every training session taken by two state coaches over two years, one now a NTC coach. I also recorded notes on every training session in that epoch.

I've also completed a KNVB course specialising in youth to fast track knowledge.

The following might be a useful pursuit for you. Rather than sitting over a computer getting a bad back and feeling resentful and obsolete, expand your horizons.


http://www.academie.knvb.nl/uploaded/kenniscentrum/Email%20version%20-%20International%20Coaching%20Course%2020081.pdf


The money would be well spent. I'm sure a number would contribute to the plane fare and cost of the course for you.

If you really can't handle the country, check out English language courses in Clarefontaine and Coverciano - that is, unless you speak fluent Italian or French.

Edited by Decentric: 10/4/2011 08:21:21 PM

Sage comment.

As a corollary to this I would profer that the non-existance of the rigatonii elastic is, for example, costing SFC 5,000 at the gate.

Decentric

The ffa suggests that the 433 be played with 2 defensive midfielders in the younger years.(up till U14’s)

Is this not a defensive structure and a negative when teaching children attacking football?


Edited by krones3: 10/4/2011 07:01:10 PM

Worked a treat

There you go again, perpetuating falsehoods. I think you mean 12 months ago.

Rubbing shoulders (for a fee) with the dutch FFA mercenaries for a few days does not buy real world experience. But I do hope you enjoyed the edam sandwiches. And what's this bollox about fast-tracking knowledge? :lol:

You've gone from a self-confessed schoolyard coaching plodder to lauching a half-arsed academy on the basis of buying, owning and treasuring one coaching certificate of attendance.

As previously stated, decentric. Good luck to you for dabbling in coaching soccer. Go forth and put in the hard work and get back to me in ten or so years. You never know, I could then perhaps set you up for an U9/3's gig at my local suburban club.

Yes, I know FFA advocate the two screener system employing the midfield triangle. Empirically, one of our state youth coaches and I concluded together, that it was easier to play with one midfield screener in the midfield triangle with two attacking mids, than having one attacking mid and two screeners.

A great idea that Andy J suggested is that as a precursor to the 4-3-3 with two defensive mids, try playing the 4-2-3-1 in four lines.

This is Andy's and other coaches' idea, not a KNVB one. It makes sense.

Last year i was trying to formulate a 4-3-3 for one of the top state senior teams, by corresponcdednce with the coach. They struggled to play the midfield triangle with two screeners. One of them was a former Matilda too. Then again they weren't employing the defensive seven as an intermediary step either.

When I was speaking from an organisational point of view, from an under 12s rep team perspective, I was rarely able to assemble the whole team before the state championships.

In KNVB progression, one moves from the 4v4 to the 7 v 7. The 4v4 is the second phase, and the 7 v 7 is the third phase of the KNVB four phase module. If one is coaching from the defensive perspective, Schans, Derkson and Baan recommended setting up a seven like this:


X--------X---------X---------X


-------X------------- X

--------------X


Of course we could also use the one screeener and two attacking mids, using the same incremental concept. In the KNVB course when we expressed surprise in the KNVB advocating the two screener midfield triangle as the preferred option, to the one screener midfield triangle, Schans considered using the attacking version against weaker teams. This is/was also contemporary European methodology, because the two screeners system safeguarded against the competence of most modern European teams to acounter attack.

To coach the defensive shape for the seven, initially use as little offensive pressure as possible on the defensive seven.

Use two attackers to play against them, using 2 v 7.


KNVB optimum distancing between the lines, and within the lines, is 10-15 metres. Of course on smaller pitches and with younger players the 10 metres is probably optimum.

When the defensive seven becomes more competent and cohesive as a unit, increase the two attackers to 3 v 7, then 4 v 7, then 5 v7, until one gets to 7 v 7.

Of course one needs an assistant coach to utilise the other players in the squad, in another SSG or shooting exercise, etc, whilst all players are not involved in the 2 v 7.

If one has a shortage of players, one can use the extra players as a fickle players on the boundary, having to pass to the team in possession of the ball.

As a corollary to the previous post for coaching the defensive seven, there are some useful kinaesthetic measures the KNVB employ.

Many Australian coaches, through no fault of their own, use little clipboards to show junior/youth players their formations and the personnel in the formations. Conversely, the KNVB lay down something tangible, like cones. I've seen Ricky Herbert do this.

In a small area, say in 3 metres by 3 metres, set out cones in the 4-3-3 formation of your choice for your team.

Then make the players stand on the cones.

The target forward stands on the target forward cone, the left back stands on the left back cone, etc. Use this at games rather than the clipboard.

This should also be done on the full size training pitch at practice. That is after making the players stand on the cones originally in the 3 metre by 3 metre grid.

It is easier for players to assimilate.

Great stuff, Krones.

There is a precursory Barca drill before this one. Did you see where I posted it?

Edited by Decentric: 10/4/2011 08:22:19 PM

http://www.bettersoccermorefun.com/dwtext/knvbgmes.htm


This is the second phase of a four phase KNVB training module. There are 6 basic 4v4 SSGs used to emphasise different coaching points.

At the Football For Everyone school (another coach conceived the name), we are focusing on the first two KNVB phases. That is, because we believe that many suburban players are not getting sufficient access to sound coaching, again through no fault of their coaches, often parents doing the best they can.


In the first two phases of KNVB methodology, there will be a maximum focus on technique, with insight and communication coming from appropriate 4v4 SSGs.

Edited by Decentric: 10/4/2011 09:25:16 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSas8t5I7n4&feature=related

This is a Coerver dribbling exercise which simply reinforces quick feet in confined space.

Inside to inside foot dribbling is probably the mode that most developing players can primarily use in this drill.

It is not an explicit instruction technique.

Edited by Decentric: 10/4/2011 09:26:12 PM