Looking forward to hearing an update now your back Decentic.

I did some coaching of individuals when I was in Europe. Surprisingly all coaching programmes I saw were pretty poor in England and Scotland. I visited Greece and Singapore too, but saw no coaching programmes.

FFE is in recess. Coach C, with coach D kept FFE operating for six weeks after I left. They discontinued it late in September because the FFA state branch and Vikings are both offering futsal. Moreover, three split state league clubs are offering SSG formal competitions. That means we don't want to operate, and duplicate, if players can play in up to five SSG competitions per week if they so desire. FFE is looking at starting again in late February, early March.

It might also seem amusing to most of you young blokes, but I'm not fit enough to be taking training either!!!:( Eleven weeks is a long time at my age to be away from the gym. I need some time to regain fitness.

FFE have been approached to take a state futsal state team for a few sessions. That originated from observations of the FFE programme. Thankfully it won't be till January.

Given our relationship with the Migrant Resource Centre, I think I may just volunteer for voluntary work, like driving the bus for MRC in the interim. I should be able to build more of a network. The refugees are the most difficult to transport to training.




Edited by Decentric: 31/10/2011 10:54:40 PM

decentric
have a look at this

www.gesa-elite.net/#!soccer-camps

Geezus, 19 pages, a few million words and nicking half of FFT's server space and now your sockah school has gawn down the shitter?

Massive anti climax there, decentric. :lol:

I looked at two icons and liked what I saw.

I'm disappointed Gareth Edds is not still playing in the A league.

What I liked was his emphasis on fun, and putting players into groups based on skill/ability level, not age. He also seemed well qualified with his UEFA B Licence. It was interesting to see they had psychological evaluation of players and nutrition in the UEFA B LIcence, as well as match analysis.

FFE is in abeyance, not defunct. ](*,)

We are stepping aside so kids can get every opportunity to play as much SSG football in comps as possible in the next few months. The principle concept of FFE is for kids to have fun. There is probably no greater fun than organised SSGs. I was involved in discussions to organise SSGs. It is fantastic that five other organisations are doing the work to organise the competitions. My co-coaches have assisted some of the FFE participants in organised SSG teams, not to mention most of the other FFE participants playing. Sounds like success to me.

I'm enjoying a break too, not to mention giving my creaking body a break.

Chips, you should move to England. There are many football coaches there with a similar outlook to you regarding coaching qualifications, football xenophobia and blatant hostility to the national body. Mind you even though ethnocentric, they are much friendlier and infinitely more affable than you. After finishing the renovation of the house, why don't you and Shazza sell the place, adopt ECP (Rabid) and migrate to the Old Dart?:lol:

Interesting that this is the first time you've posted in over a month. :roll:


Edited by Decentric: 31/10/2011 11:27:24 PM

What sort of a massively successful sockah akadumy closes 'until further notice'?

Perhaps you'll find your niche in life behind the wheel of the bus. And the big plus is that you'l get to carry another licence in your wallet. One cannot have enough licences to assist dev of self-esteem. :lol:

care to write a review of the programs ? should have gone to premier skills for decent coach education

decentric
Hope you Tasmanians didn't let me down.


http://www.ipswich.qld.gov.au/about_ipswich/events/index.php?eventid=2420&date=1319810400

Edited by krones3: 1/11/2011 08:30:57 PM

What happened in the matches, Krones?

The TIS coach is a good coach, but his demeanour deteriorates very quickly when his team starts losing.

Nothing worth commenting on, Dirk. Too much running at training without the ball. Too many training games devoid of the ball.

All coaches knew a lot about football from watching the game, but ran poor programmes on the training ground. The FA struggles to attract coaches to its coaching courses.

Many English coaches think they know a lot about the game and don't see the need for coach education. A degree of football anti-intellectualism is common. Consequently, FA coaching courses are seen as being for teachers.](*,)

The antithesis occurs on the European continent.

Edited by Decentric: 8/11/2011 12:48:03 AM

One that wants to see players enjoy formal SSG opportunities. KNVB doctrine dictates that players learn football by playing football.

Three months ago we didn't envisage three split state league clubs offering 7v7/5v5 competitions for players in spring, encouraging players outside their clubs to participate.

FFA state branch offers futsal ATM . So does the Vikings organisation.

During the regular season none of the above competitions are offered. That is when FFE can supplement regular club training for players who want more coaching.

For players who want full-time programmes the Morton Academy offers five days per week training. ATM they are touring England, visiting and playing against professional clubs.
FFE now use their ball mastery programme to augment our Brazilian/Dutch stuff. Their ball mastery is based on one English League One academy. We've swapped/discussed techniques with one of their coaches.

A local player, also part of Morton's Soccer School, has trialled for a number of English League One and Two teams. Some of the League 1 and 2 training ground programmes are mediocre. One has a decent ball mastery programme. Ken Morton has adopted it for his school. This is the basis for supplementing the ball skills that we do at FFE.

Edited by Decentric: 8/11/2011 12:46:10 AM

Welcome back Decentric.

Interesting that you say the coaching programs are pretty poor europe. Some of the ASA lads are over in England with Man city, Leeds united, Blackpool, Blackburn, Sheffield etc at the moment and the director of ASA rates their whole coaching and program setups rather highly and professional. In fact so much so he will be making changes when he gets back from his tour of the UK and Dubi.

Did you manage to visit any of the EPL teams and see their setup and coaching or did you do just a KNVB tour?

Cheers

Thanks.

I didn't visit any professional clubs. I also didn't visit the KNVB either. The trip was about catching up with relatives, friends, socialising and sight seeing.

Having said that Coach C from FFE visited Man City and Everton with an Australian futsal team. He was particularly impressed with Everton Academy. We've used stuff from Everton at FFE.

Doncaster Junior Premier League, one of the organisations where I watched games, observed training ground practices and spoke a lot to coaches, must be pretty significant because it is very close to the city of Leeds.

This is a wonderful opinion. The things mentioned are unanimous and needs to be appreciated by everyone.

The issue of public liability is an unresolved issue for FFE.


Football Federation Tasmania say it doesn't matter if we have registered FFA coaches at Football For Everyone, one coach must be coaching a team in a FFA organised competition to receive public liability.

Migrant Resource Centre's only covers the migrants who they have worked with.

Coach C registered for a FFA Senior Licence course which was cancelled earlier in the year due to lack of numbers.

The same happened for a C Licence course in September - cancelled with only 6 participants.

Then FFT ran a Senior Licence without contacting Coach C in the last few weeks. One has to be in close contact with someone in the loop to know what occurs at FFT.

Last year they thought advertising on the FFT website was sufficient for the A League practice match they organised, with Tassie playing the Mariners. The general public would've had no idea it was on. Only people with club networks would've heard about the game.

Public liability needs to be resolved for FFE. The state sports ministry is supportive, but it seems FFT is not. In one way one can see FFT's position. I think it stems from the fact I won't do an approved FFA coaching course - I don't know why. I'm still currently qualified. If I do another coaching course I've told them I'll do it in the Netherlands, or Spain if possible.
I think I've countered that most coaches have no specific tertiary qualifications and an understanding of cognitive development theory and behaviour management strategies which enhances coaching success.

This gets back to the point where FFA seem hell bent on coercing coaches to do courses every year, even if a FFA Licence lasts for four years. It must be all about paying some big salaries.:x

Edited by Decentric: 22/11/2011 10:54:10 PM

If one wishes to do a course, one would assume he/she would or should inquire as to the schedule for said courses. If said licence course was conducted, the participants were obviously aware.


Why won't you?



Have you asked them why and/or of they require further qualifications? It appears from your comments that perhaps they do.



If you have only the minimum junior licence, why not in Australia?



I have several teachers in the family and while i agree a good teacher can act on their training to interact with kids, i can't see how it can even be considered to be a counter to not having the licences and/or qualifications required by an administrative body in an unrelated field.



You appear reluctant to do what's required by your state federation to enable you to conduct your school with their blessing. The lack of public liability insurance cover alone would be enough of a worry for me to shelve it until all the requirements were met. What is the legal standing of acting without insurance?

I can't understand your position you explain in this post, which appears, on face value, to be one of a reluctance to agree to those requirements.

Skeptic, I have a current FFA Youth Licence.

The KNVB course I did has an FFA accompanying note which states it has covered a lot of FFA C Licence content. It also covers match analysis from FFA B Licence. It was taken by KNVB staff instructors brought over by TD Rob Baan to instruct A League youth coaches. I also have an arts degree and post graduate teaching qualifications with 26 years teaching experience.

Coach C from FFE has a FFA Senior Licence.

Coach A from FFE has a FFA C LIcence.

What is the problem with those qualifications?

Nothing wrong with these for FFA to provide public liability.

Then why is PL insurance a problem? Are there particular requirements yet to be met?



Edited by skeptic: 23/11/2011 03:34:02 PM

And written on your certificate of attendance is the following statement;

"This is a Certificate of participation only, given by the KNVB to the participant without formal testing of competencies. Participants can not draw any rights from this certificate without written statement of Football Federation Australia (FFA)."

Oh dear, I believe you've clearly overstepped the mark (on at least 200 occasions). Clearly the course was cobbled up as a quick money grab for a few holidaying Dutchmen.



Interesting, but totally irrelevant.


Edited by judy free: 23/11/2011 05:52:33 PM

This subject has been covered ad infinitum on the link. The anonymous poster questioning the authenticity of the KNVB was either you, or an acting W League coach.

Why did the FFA TD, Rob Baan, bring them out from Holland then?

On the linked article on Walter Pless's blog, I've Listed about 4 KNVB signatories from Holland with their names on the document. These KNVB courses are offered all over the world. I've seen a plethora of coaches from around the globe list this same KNVB course in their CVs. It seems you and a few others making disparaging comments are motivated to cast aspersions through envy.

If the coach who raised the KNVB question was confident he would have been happy to take up my offer of applying a KNVB critique of his training ground practice. He declined. Why?

Because he is a well known coach who makes a career out of coaching and would worry if shortcomings were identified. He was happy to cast aspersions through anonymity, but wasn't willing to have his training ground practice evaluated.

It seems Football Federation Tasmania wants us to coach rep/club teams. The upper echelons of the FFT hierarchy believe FFT are doing everything FFE is doing. A stakeholder lower in the FFT hierarchy knows they are not. When FFE coaches have met with these FFT officials at the same time, there is a clear hierarchy.

We have had lot of lip service from FFT, but nothing tangible has materialized.

FFE has had feedback from coaches that we are challenging players more than FFA staff coaches one off sessions, which duplicate what they learnt from their FFA Youth Licences.

I also adhere to the KNVB training ground paradigm direct from Holland. I'm not going to follow the secondary sources, Aussie coaches interpreting what they deem to be world' s best practice. I have done sessions with a number of top FFA coaches. They are nowhere near as good as KNVB's Ad Derkson and Arie Schans. The latter has been an ongoing mentor.



Edited by Decentric: 23/11/2011 11:28:25 PM

Then, if that's FFT policy it has to be adhered to enable PL insurance, doesn't it?

Participants can not draw any rights from this certificate without written statement of Football Federation Australia (FFA).

Which part do you not understand?

I'd be careful if I were you, using this certificate of attendance to build a reputation to promote a privately run entity. I wonder what the FFA would make of this?

They already know, after all I told them about it and prompted them to get in contact with him.

Skeptic, due to limited equipment and Internet access, I can' t answer these questions in a remote area.

At some stage this week I'll return home. When I do I'll answer any question I haven't.

In short FFE covers all criteria needed for coaching. My qualifications exceed what FFA requires as a minimum.


One stakeholder at state FFA has been much more supportive than others. He appears to want to make decisions for the greater good of the game.

Others simply do their job within the strict job description guidelines.

A lot has been promised, but those promises always appear to be countermanded by a higher authority.

Dean May

Sorry, decentric, but your being a clear as mud and i have to try to read between your lines to know what you're saying. Are you asking for an exception to the FFT policy rule? Which is why i asked the question below.

I can easily access posts, but with an iPad there are constraints posting myself.

As I said when I get back I'll clarify every point you've raised in as much detail as necessary.

I have two homes- one is in a remote area. I am at the remote one ATM. Sometime in the next few days I'll clarify when I return to the capital.

Edited by Decentric: 28/11/2011 11:24:29 AM

Edited by Decentric: 28/11/2011 11:26:51 AM

On the discussion of the way kids should be coached, I just thought i'd add a different kind of view, as I am an U15 player in a regular league...

In my years of playing the game (albeit not that many), it seems to be the norm that there have always been a large chunk of teams that put emphasis on 'parking the bus'. When facing this opposition, all I hear from the coach is, 'GET IT OUT OF THERE', 'BOMB IT LONG', you know , the usual. For me, this was more noticeable in younger years, where instead of learning how to actually play the game properly (as many of you have been talking about), they're taught to play for results. I remember vividly, that my team used to lose more games than win, (alot of those being from not being able to penetrate a bussing defence, and losing 1-0 from a rare opposition counter-attack).

Anyway, I thought I might aswell add that, as it hopefully gave a different point of view on this whole topic. :)