Han Berger talking during The World Game show


Han Berger talking during The World Game show

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Barca4Life wrote:
Ok I've gone through the John Boltbee thread and how it explains that he has more responsibility for the "technical" reforms of the game, so does Han Berger still have a say in that or not??? Does hes role change? Does he still have a say with the implantation of the FFA ciriculum???



Good point.
':)


It would be great for someone from FFA to provide an answer to your questions, Barca4Life.

According to our state FFA TD, Han Berger is totally transfixed on technical development to the exclusion of everything else.

In terms of implementation of it, I don't know. I'll ask the state TD if he knows who does what, as we will be meeting with him on Thursday.





Edited by Decentric: 12/5/2011 10:15:41 PM
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Decentric wrote:
Barca4Life wrote:
Ok I've gone through the John Boltbee thread and how it explains that he has more responsibility for the "technical" reforms of the game, so does Han Berger still have a say in that or not??? Does hes role change? Does he still have a say with the implantation of the FFA ciriculum???



Good point.
(':)


It would be great for someone from FFA to provide an answer to your questions, Barca4Life.

According to our state FFA TD, Han Berger is totally transfixed on technical development to the exclusion of everything else.

In terms of implementation of it, I don't know. I'll ask the state TD if he knows who does what, as we will be meeting with him on Thursday.



Edited by Decentric: 10/5/2011 02:23:45 PM



The information I received today was no real explanation of John Boultbee's role, other than he is a bit of a fixer in all areas in FFA.


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Decentric wrote:
Decentric wrote:
Barca4Life wrote:
Ok I've gone through the John Boltbee thread and how it explains that he has more responsibility for the "technical" reforms of the game, so does Han Berger still have a say in that or not??? Does hes role change? Does he still have a say with the implantation of the FFA ciriculum???



Good point.
(':)


It would be great for someone from FFA to provide an answer to your questions, Barca4Life.

According to our state FFA TD, Han Berger is totally transfixed on technical development to the exclusion of everything else.

In terms of implementation of it, I don't know. I'll ask the state TD if he knows who does what, as we will be meeting with him on Thursday.



Edited by Decentric: 10/5/2011 02:23:45 PM



The information I received today was no real explanation of John Boultbee's role, other than he is a bit of a fixer in all areas in FFA.



You honestly didn't believe that some remotely located fellow rider of the FFA gravy train was gonna dump on his mainland mates, did you?

All these blokes just wanna get on with life without making waves. They'll keep flying under the radar, collecting their pay cheques and telling anyone who cares to asks how great a job they're all doing.

It's the way life works, decentric.




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Judy Free wrote:
Decentric wrote:
Decentric wrote:
Barca4Life wrote:
Ok I've gone through the John Boltbee thread and how it explains that he has more responsibility for the "technical" reforms of the game, so does Han Berger still have a say in that or not??? Does hes role change? Does he still have a say with the implantation of the FFA ciriculum???



Good point.
(':)


It would be great for someone from FFA to provide an answer to your questions, Barca4Life.

According to our state FFA TD, Han Berger is totally transfixed on technical development to the exclusion of everything else.

In terms of implementation of it, I don't know. I'll ask the state TD if he knows who does what, as we will be meeting with him on Thursday.



Edited by Decentric: 10/5/2011 02:23:45 PM



The information I received today was no real explanation of John Boultbee's role, other than he is a bit of a fixer in all areas in FFA.



You honestly didn't believe that some remotely located fellow rider of the FFA gravy train was gonna dump on his mainland mates, did you?

All these blokes just wanna get on with life without making waves. They'll keep flying under the radar, collecting their pay cheques and telling anyone who cares to asks how great a job they're all doing.

It's the way life works, decentric.



I think our local TD and his two assistants are probably doing a great job. The first time guys in these positions at state FFA have done a great job. These guys are on no gravy train. They are working with missionary zeal to enhance the reputation of FFA local branch, even admitting image problems in the past. They are moving ever forwards, not backwards. Community football stakeholders are blown out by the new coaching regime's enthusiasm and willingness to assist.

Having said that a goalkeeper on this forum hasn't heard from Football Federation Victoria for over a year regarding a Tony Franken keeping workshop. He has applied repeatedly for the workshop.


What I was hoping for is more of a specific job description to answer Barca 4 Life's questions.

Boultbee's role within FFA can be subdivided into three issues.

1. His remuneration,
2. How hard he works.
3. His job description.

He could be a great fixer/problem solver. None of us know a definitive answer and can only speculate.

The way life works is that some may adhere to principles of altruism, benevolence and philanthropy. Obviously you don't believe in them.

Not everybody is out to exploit others and make money out of everything at other people's expense. There are concepts such as egalitarianism, assimilation and humanism. Some see football as a vehicle to promote these principles.

I do.

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Decentric wrote:
Boultbee's role within FFA can be subdivided into three issues.

1. His remuneration


Massive salary. Must be up there amongst the biggest earners in strayan sport. Second biggest snout in the FFA trough. I'm simply keen to understand if the strayan sockah communtity ae getting value for their money.

Decentric wrote:
2. How hard he works.


Too hard to quantify. Paper shuffling jobs are a bit like that. Ask any public servant.

Decentric wrote:
3. His job description


The $64 unanswered question.

The feedback you received does indicate one thing; no one exactly knows what Boultbee does between the hours of 9 to 5 Mon to Fri. Certainly matches the info passed on to me from my well-informed sources.

Edited by judy free: 13/5/2011 11:14:45 AM
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I've never been interested in coaching. I've done my bit as a player, and done my bit at doing the nitty gritty things that keep grass roots football going- marking out pitches, putting up nets, washing shirts, etc. Happy to be an observer and a fan now.

Coaching has always seemed a bit of a hassle to me... even when you are winning things, there is always someone, somewhere, not happy or whingeing about something. Credit to those of you who do coach, of course, but it is not for me.



Excellent that you've done those menial chores, not known about by people who haven't done them. All associations, clubs, need this type of person to make things function. This is why to me, the social player enjoying football is just as important as the elite player. A number of them become referees, administrators and general helpers when they retire from the game.

A number of coaches like the development option. That is where there is no pressure on winning games, being hassled by disgruntled parents, omitting players from squads, etc.

I've never enjoyed coaching as much as I am at this point in time.





The lack of accountability is right up your alley decentric as is the money making potential.



It is not a question of accountability.

Nor is it a question of money. I may have an adequate retirement pension.

If one coaches a squad of 16 players in season, one has limited access to players within the football community.

The development option is one we've undertaken to access many more players during a season. We would like to think we are providing players with the medium to take what they learn in FFE, back to their clubs/junior teams and mates in the playground. This is a dissemination of knowledge and skills.

Han Berger's lieutenants see it the same way too.



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why are u people talking about this still ! ffs
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Those who can do ... those who can't teach/coach. Seems accurate
That's an ignorant statement. The best teacher's are usually those who set our to teach to begin with.
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Most of the pure grass roots coaches are exactly as Chips described, a parent who has drawn the short straw. They know SFA about football and tactics, they have probably never played the game either and now they are coaching a group of children.



I wonder if one of the mods could move this thread to the Performance section as it w could be revisited over time. GA has suggested the value to Performance section before. I agree with him.


This subject may be less topical here now.



Due to circumstances I've had quite a lot to do with FFA state branch since this thread started.

In response to your comment, GA, I think some suburban junior coaches with a good attitude, who know little about football, may be better for the game than some of the knowledgeable coaches taking youth/senior teams with the wrong attitude.

How?

Some knowledgeable youth/senior coaches who pursue winning at all costs, can discourage players' enthusiasm for football. Enjoyment and playing with friends is very important for people wanting to continue to play football.
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STFA_Striker wrote:
Ive recently completed my senior coaching certs and to be honest im concerned by some of the things ive witnessed in the course.

I would say the vast majority of the coaches who completed the course with me were so focussed on what the book told them to do that come match day if the 433 isnt working they are going to be absolutely stuffed.

At the moment our head coach is refusing to deviate from the 433 that we are playing even though it seems obvious that the majority of our african players and also supprisingly our pommy cannot comprehend how the formation is supposed to work.

The 433 formation is supposed to develop players not necesarilly be the be all and end all of football......



This post has been a source of a massive polemic between a NTC (institute) coach and me on another blog.

I hope this is not a wind up, STFA Striker, because I've taken it at face value!!!

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Decentric wrote:
General Ashnak wrote:
Most of the pure grass roots coaches are exactly as Chips described, a parent who has drawn the short straw. They know SFA about football and tactics, they have probably never played the game either and now they are coaching a group of children.



I wonder if one of the mods could move this thread to the Performance section as it w could be revisited over time. GA has suggested the value to Performance section before. I agree with him.


This subject may be less topical here now.



Due to circumstances I've had quite a lot to do with FFA state branch since this thread started.

In response to your comment, GA, I think some suburban junior coaches with a good attitude, who know little about football, may be better for the game than some of the knowledgeable coaches taking youth/senior teams with the wrong attitude.

How?

Some knowledgeable youth/senior coaches who pursue winning at all costs, can discourage players' enthusiasm for football. Enjoyment and playing with friends is very important for people wanting to continue to play football.

I don't think it is necessarily a negative, but they need to be provided with resources which make their own inexperience relatively irrelevant - especially if it included a DVD which showed how things should look when done properly.

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Decentric wrote:
I wonder if one of the mods could move this thread to the Performance section as it w could be revisited over time. GA has suggested the value to Performance section before. I agree with him.


Agreed, and moved.
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General Ashnak wrote:
Decentric wrote:
General Ashnak wrote:
Most of the pure grass roots coaches are exactly as Chips described, a parent who has drawn the short straw. They know SFA about football and tactics, they have probably never played the game either and now they are coaching a group of children.





Due to circumstances I've had quite a lot to do with FFA state branch since this thread started.

In response to your comment, GA, I think some suburban junior coaches with a good attitude, who know little about football, may be better for the game than some of the knowledgeable coaches taking youth/senior teams with the wrong attitude.

How?

Some knowledgeable youth/senior coaches who pursue winning at all costs, can discourage players' enthusiasm for football. Enjoyment and playing with friends is very important for people wanting to continue to play football.

I don't think it is necessarily a negative, but they need to be provided with resources which make their own inexperience relatively irrelevant - especially if it included a DVD which showed how things should look when done properly.


What I was referring to is one of our FFE role model players, 15 years of age, who just represented Australia at the world Viking futsal championships, was told by his club coach in the under 19s, that players who enjoy football don't win!!!!
:-s

The same coach, R, has been instructing his team to run for 50 minutes without the ball, then do 25 minutes tactical work.
Where are the SSGs?

No matter that the team is wining a lot of games, his team's players are disillusioned. Ironically, another of the prospective FFE coaches is a mate of his and suggested he come to FFE to help.
No way!!!!! He is part of the problem, not the solution!!!

There are other coaches at other senior clubs who are giving young players no game time for any team, sitting on the bench, whilst others are playing for three different teams.
](*,)

Sometimes the good work done by junior coaches (under 12 and downwards) is being undone by coaches in senior clubs (under 13s to seniors).

It is difficult for FFA through Han Berger to police this.

We want our state TD to observe some of these inappropriate practices to realise some of the bad practices occurring. Unfortunately he is very busy and is always moving up and down the state from south to north.

Edited by Decentric: 26/5/2011 03:09:47 PM
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Benjamin wrote:
Decentric wrote:
I wonder if one of the mods could move this thread to the Performance section as it w could be revisited over time. GA has suggested the value to Performance section before. I agree with him.


Agreed, and moved.


Thanks.
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