What a fantastic day for football

Just goes to show that these ao called fan unfriendly mono ethnic clubs can still pull a great crowd without the celebrity high pitched status enjoyed by HAL clubs

There is room for these clubs and I there isn't then create it

SFC could not get 10k to most games last season, yet was achieved by 2 club cripples by new football albeit a GF

Finally well done to both teams on a fantastic game and congratulations to Olympic

A second tier is a must if football is serious about it's future

What a fantastic day for football

Just goes to show that these ao called fan unfriendly mono ethnic clubs can still pull a great crowd without the celebrity high pitched status enjoyed by HAL clubs

There is room for these clubs and I there isn't then create it

SFC could not get 10k to most games last season, yet was achieved by 2 club cripples by new football albeit a GF

Finally well done to both teams on a fantastic game and congratulations to Olympic

A second tier is a must if football is serious about it's future

Hopefully the success of today's Grand Final will make the FFA seriously consider a 2nd tier competition involving ex-NSL clubs.....

You guys are leading the way, as far as i understand thats the first 10,000+ crowd at a state league match since South Melbourne v Heidelberg (12,000) way back in early 2005, this should put Olympic in a good position to bring back some of the old fans next season, congrats to syd united of course as well as it takes 2 to put on such a match.

To be fair, i think the crowd was half Olympic half United.

It just shows that the potential is there with your eg of Hellas vs Bergers as well as todays match.

Yeah the crowd was very even with the majority being split between the hill and the grandstand.

Pretty sure it's the first 10k crowd since we've come into the comp and couldn't think of 2 better teams to do it.

Those pricks at FFA better have a serious think about the potential for a 2nd tier competition ffs.

Imagine Olympic, United, Knights, Hellas, Dandy and a few regional teams as a 2nd tier comp....

I think Olympic and United have a more dormant fanbase that are still willing to support both clubs under the right circumstances, where as here i think south/bergers fans have moved on to suppport other greek clubs or are 100% A league followers only...in the elimination final we only had about 2,500 against them...doubt we could get 10,000 to a grand final now, would be nice if we made it to find out though:lol:...if anything the fact that your crowd was 50/50 split shows a strength in both clubs.

I can't speak on uniteds behalf, but Olympic has a ridiculous amount of dormant fans. There's another 5 Greek clubs in the state league system, and no Greeks give a fuck about them, and not many jumped onto the Sydney FC band wagon. They are still out there, clearly band wagoners, but hopefully today's game will bring them back next season

5 in the entire state system? 5 here in the vpl alone, about 30+ in the state system here. I think Sydney FC draws a lot of its fans from the ex northern spirit era, here in Melbourne all the Greeks i know that got me into South now support MV, i would guess that Greeks are quite possibly the biggest backers of MV, not just in terms of fans but also corporate support....looking ahead i think Olympic are in a better position as all you need to do is convince them to come back to the games (today helps bigtime), here in Melbourne you need to get people to change teams back to South and then convince them to vpl...a near impossible task.

5 + Olympic = 6

So out of 48 state league Clubs, 6 are Greek.

There are 4 Italian clubs and 3 Croatian. So we have the most out of the ethnic sides.

Greeks couldn't give a shit about the other Greek sides.

got ya, thanks for that had no clue what it was like in Sydney.

Much different here with your Oakleigh's, Bentleigh's etc....(ex south fans support them)

For us it's more the opposite.

You will often find Players and committees of the other clubs coming to Olympic if there isn't a clash in kick off.

We are the epicenter of Greek football in Sydney, how south Melb and Bergers should be for Melb....

Edited by minimalistix: 4/10/2011 12:13:17 AM

Great idea, lets just destroy the entire last 8 years of hard work to get people away from a fully professional successful league so they can support South Melbourne in the VPL :roll: :roll:

Or are you saying, support victory or Heart durign summer, local club during winter?

Edited by 119GLORY: 4/10/2011 01:14:56 AM

I think he's saying, FUCK THE FRANCHISES

Oh thats good, not like I enjoy a high standard of play and making it to world cups. Pure coincidence we never made it to a world cup in the entire span of the NSL 1978-2004? Nope, we qualified the year after it was gone and the majority have not looked back since.

We did make the WC during the NSL, welldone you plastic. There was football before 2005

No, we didnt. 1974 is before 1977. Could legitimately argue it was the same regime/ethos however.

Yeah, in 1 year the FFA produced a WC squad.

Yeah great to see that you can blur the line so well. A grand final atracting people is easy. Where were these crowd numbers in regular season matches. Apples for apples Chris.

SFC in their last Grand Final season were pulling 12,000 on average. what were Olympics or United's for that matter?

Oh dear God massive facepalm.

Dude, the bulk of our starting squad in WC 2006 were graduates of the NSL: Schwarzer, Chippers, Emmo, Bresc, Vinny, Culina and a little bloke called Dukes.

Farken.

Edited by eskimo: 4/10/2011 02:43:43 PM

Edited by eskimo: 4/10/2011 02:45:48 PM

How so? The World Cups of 1978, 1982, 1986, 1990, 1994, 1998 and 2002 thats 7 World Cups during which the NSL was around. Johnny Warren himself quoted we would never make the World Cup under the current model which at the time was the NSL. You going to argue with him AND me? I've only been an avid football fan for about 5 years though so pardon me.

Jesus you're quick... I've edited my post above to explain further.

Dude, you're posting nearly 20 a day. Settle down or you'll get RSI.

Fair enough I see that. What about the NSL stars such as Trimboli, Alex Tobin, Milan Ivanovic, Damian Mori, John Markovski etc why did they not kick on? I am not trying to be a dick, I genuinely want to get your viewpoint on issues that happened way before I was into football

Why don't you do your own research on some of these issues and then come back, because at the moment you come across as a bit of a tool. Plenty of resources out there to help you answer these questions.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

While it may be true that we only made a 2nd WC just after the end of the NSL. Of that 23 man squad that went to the 2006 world cup 18 came through the NSL. The end of the NSL and the start of the A-League had fuck all to do with qualifying for the world cup.

Where did i mention anything about destroying the A league? i said its a hard task to get people that were South who changed to Victory back to South....what they do in summer quite frankly i dont give a toss.

bullshit the transition was the symbolic end of soccer australia/ASF and the rise of the FFA
The FFA who played and won the off field chess battle with the timing of flights and the chartering of specialised flights that gave us and what not with a tired and hapless U-r-gay. When compared to the old SA/ASF who plotted games against Scotland in the cold and damp Melbourne instead of Townsville or Darwin, truly they where a bunch of clueless morons