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Gyfox
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skeptic wrote:Gyfox wrote:
That would be one conclusion but a less biased appraisal is the ratings have gone down from a season average of 60-65k when in "clear air" but the 52k average for last weekend is 20% higher than the season average last year and equal to the Season 5 average. This is quite a good response in the analysis of the whole seasons ratings.
The figures quoted above for last weekend are the #20 rated programmes, not the aleague telecasts. As only the top 20 for each day are published and they weren't included, they were somewhere below each #20 figure. How far below, I have no idea. Thanks for that... I didn't notice the < sign. It would have been quite an acceptable rating if true. :oops: I wish we had access to someone who had the dough to get the full results. Would still like to test the Gorman (?) claim that 40% of the ratings are from Sydney.
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Gyfox
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crimsoncrusoe wrote:Does anyone know if ratings were below 55k when the season started without the so called clear air?
It looks to me that marketing by other football codes is just as intense at the beginning of the season as at the end.At finals time though many fans lose interest because thier team has dropped out.MV fans and the favt they missed the finals has also had a big affect.Although even when they still had a chance of qualifying ratings had halved.
Overall though starting later has had little impact.Kewell ,Emerton and the Roar had more of an impact.When Roar went on their losing streak a lot of their gloss disappeared. From memory the opening game rated above 150k. For some reason 173k rings a bell but I don't trust my old brain anymore lol Last years the average rating for the season was about 43K a game and the last I heard this season the average was still around 60k but that was before the NRL started. Edited by gyfox: 20/3/2012 07:12:06 PM
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The first 2 games involving Kewell rated 150k...MV games remained steady around the 70k mark for a while...all the other teams have been in the 40-60s all season long and even MV are dropping off now...the decline really started around the time the big bash cricket started in December.
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Gyfox wrote:Last years the average rating for the season was about 43K a game and the last I heard this season the average was still around 60k but that was before the NRL started. Averages arent reliable given that last season not only had more games, but also more Wednesday games which for some reason rate lower. A better indication will be to compare the first 2 rounds of this season vs last, the middle 2 rounds, and the last 2 rounds.
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southmelb wrote:I still cant for the life of me understand how the live A league games continue to rate below old simpsons episodes, world series cricket flashbacks and a whole lot of other garbage on the fox platform:?
Rating below nrl, afl, super rugby is fine...but being bumped out of the top 20 by the crappy entertainment channels is not good. I'd be interested to know the breakdown of Foxtel's customers. It's only a small sample of 20 people, but amongst my group of football mates 10% have Foxtel - myself and 1 other. Yet, 12 of us are members of MHT or MVFC! The majority can't see the point of paying 12 mths for Foxtel that only will be used a maximum of 6 mths per year. Also, many go away to holiday homes during summer when there is no HAL in Melbourne & wouldn't be able to access Foxtel on such w/e. The same guys happily pay for games via Setanta, UEFA.com b/c it means they can watch the game anywhere they want.
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Gyfox
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bluebird wrote:Gyfox wrote:Last years the average rating for the season was about 43K a game and the last I heard this season the average was still around 60k but that was before the NRL started. Averages arent reliable given that last season not only had more games, but also more Wednesday games which for some reason rate lower. A better indication will be to compare the first 2 rounds of this season vs last, the middle 2 rounds, and the last 2 rounds. Not sure of your justification for those rounds but I wouldn't use them if I were you. This first rounds this year were the best on record and the middle ones are the Christmas/New Year week compared to early November last year. Of course I would expect last year's final two weeks to be better than this year's because it was not competing against the other codes.
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Glory Recruit
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Clinton wrote:Glory Recruit wrote:Yeah the october kick off seems to be a bit of a failure.
2012 crowds have been a lot lower then 2011 and tv ratings r down. Probably more to do with The Victory and Sydney being failures, If a Kewell led Victory won games from the start it could have been a different story. Unfortunately it was the Mariners who hogged top spot and they will never have huge crowds or ratings. Its not because of Victory and Sydney imo as even other teams are dropping off i think its got to do with Asian champions league being on as well as some teams have 2 games a week. But like i said ages ago our crowds are still very good considering the overall viewership we get for the A-league. Perhaps this October thing wasnt a good idea. Edited by glory recruit: 20/3/2012 11:50:12 PM
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Glory Recruit wrote:Yeah the october kick off seems to be a bit of a failure.
2012 crowds have been a lot lower then 2011 and tv ratings r down. You're referring to the same season right? 2011 figures for season 7 vs. 2012 figures for season 7? If that's the case, the idea of starting in October was to have better exposure, increased crowds and audience at the start of the season. Wouldn't this be an indication that the later start is working just as expected?
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Latest TV ratings. Friday LIVE: FOOTBALL: A-LEAGUE ADE V MELB H FOX SPORTS 2 51,000 http://www.throng.com.au/ratings/free-air-tv-ratings-friday-march-23rd-2012SaturdayLIVE: FOOTBALL: A-LEAGUE PERTH V MELB V FOX SPORTS 1 66,000 http://www.throng.com.au/ratings/free-air-tv-ratings-saturday-march-24th-2012Sunday Wellington v CCM = < 55,000 LIVE: FOOTBALL: A-LEAGUE G COAST V BRIS FOX SPORTS 3 58,000 LIVE: FOOTBALL: A-LEAGUE SYD V NEWC FOX SPORTS 3 73,000 LIVE: FOOTBALL: A-LEAGUE PRE GAME SHOW FOX SPORTS 3 67,000 LIVE: FOOTBALL: A-LEAGUE POST GAME SHOW FOX SPORTS 3 96,000 http://www.throng.com.au/ratings/free-air-tv-ratings-sunday-march-25th-2012Ratings improved last week and games back in the top 20. Last game of the season perhaps drawing the fans back?
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Top ten sports shows for the week.
1 LIVE: NRL SHARKS V SEA EAGLES FOX SPORTS 2 = 290,000
2 LIVE: NRL DRAGONS V SEA EAGLES FOX SPORTS 2 = 283,000
3 LIVE: AFL GWS V SYDNEY FOX FOOTY = 251,000
4 LIVE: NRL COWBOYS V SHARKS FOX SPORTS 2 = 246,000
5 LIVE: NRL WARRIORS V TITANS FOX SPORTS 2 = 224,000
6 LIVE: NRL ROOSTERS V RAIDERS FOX SPORTS 2 = 222,000
7 LIVE: NRL WARRIORS V BULLDOGS FOX SPORTS 2 = 166,000
8 LIVE: NRL MONDAY POST GAME SHOW FOX SPORTS 2 = 144,000
9 LIVE: SUPER RUGBY: REBELS V FORCE FOX SPORTS 3 = 130,000
10 LIVE: SUPER RUGBY: WARATAHS V SHARKS FOX SPORTS 3 = 99,000
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Finals will be a epic failure in the ratings. Except for the grand final i would imagine.
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Gyfox
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The fact that there were three crucial games on Sunday resulted in a kick. The Sydney Newcastle game topping the A-League weekend is pleasing. The FFA is quoting a 46% increase over last year in average rating for the season which means 63k average and the second best A-League result ever.
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The post game show tops the week's football ratings?
Bizarre!!
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Gyfox
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ozboy wrote:The post game show tops the week's football ratings?
Bizarre!! Was Mel on?
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Sirocco wrote:3 LIVE: AFL GWS V SYDNEY FOX FOOTY = 251,000 Why was only one AFL game in the top ten? Were all the other games on FTA? Or is the reality that NRL is far more popular than AFL on Fox?
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Gyfox
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ozboy wrote:Sirocco wrote:3 LIVE: AFL GWS V SYDNEY FOX FOOTY = 251,000 Why was only one AFL game in the top ten? Were all the other games on FTA? Or is the reality that NRL is far more popular than AFL on Fox? There was only one AFL round 1 game on this weekend. The remainder are on next weekend.
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Glory Recruit
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Gyfox wrote:ozboy wrote:The post game show tops the week's football ratings?
Bizarre!! Was Mel on? giggity. ^^ only 1 game was on idk why but ya.
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ozboy wrote:Sirocco wrote:3 LIVE: AFL GWS V SYDNEY FOX FOOTY = 251,000 Why was only one AFL game in the top ten? Were all the other games on FTA? Or is the reality that NRL is far more popular than AFL on Fox? By a mile and have been for a number of years.
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skeptic wrote:ozboy wrote:Sirocco wrote:3 LIVE: AFL GWS V SYDNEY FOX FOOTY = 251,000 Why was only one AFL game in the top ten? Were all the other games on FTA? Or is the reality that NRL is far more popular than AFL on Fox? By a mile and have been for a number of years. So should NRL get a bigger tv deal than AFL?
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Gyfox
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ozboy wrote:skeptic wrote:ozboy wrote:Sirocco wrote:3 LIVE: AFL GWS V SYDNEY FOX FOOTY = 251,000 Why was only one AFL game in the top ten? Were all the other games on FTA? Or is the reality that NRL is far more popular than AFL on Fox? By a mile and have been for a number of years. So should NRL get a bigger tv deal than AFL? They are hoping for it because of their large long term presence on Fox. Fox started broadcasting NRL back near the start of paytv in Sydney (1998 sticks in my mind but that may be wrong) and it drove subscription growth there. Sydney still has the highest penetration of paytv in the country. On that if the figure quoted earlier this season that Sydney accounts for 40% of A-League viewership is correct it would be because of the subscriptions initially driven by the NRL.
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Super Rugby ratings aren't great.
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ozboy wrote:Sirocco wrote:3 LIVE: AFL GWS V SYDNEY FOX FOOTY = 251,000 Or is the reality that NRL is far more popular than AFL on Fox? Foxtel has a much higher penetration rate in Sydney and Brisbane, and this is driven primarily by the NRL. The reason why there's never been any "Fox NRL" channel but there is a "Fox AFL" channel is because Foxtel are trying to push their product in Victoria to increase the takeup rate.
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Id imagine the NSW waratahs vs Sharks game only shows the australian viewers?
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macktheknife wrote:ozboy wrote:Sirocco wrote:3 LIVE: AFL GWS V SYDNEY FOX FOOTY = 251,000 Or is the reality that NRL is far more popular than AFL on Fox? Foxtel has a much higher penetration rate in Sydney and Brisbane, and this is driven primarily by the NRL. The reason why there's never been any "Fox NRL" channel but there is a "Fox AFL" channel is because Foxtel are trying to push their product in Victoria to increase the takeup rate. The fact they don't have simulcast rights for all the FTA NRL games would be a big factor, far too hard to fill out a schedule when you don't have those live games to build the schedule around. Wouldn't surprise me if they created a Fox Rugby channel in the future, put NRL, NSW Cup, retro games, Talk shows, Highlights shows & Super rugby, highlights, talk show etc. Would be a packed schedule of live games and some highlights shows with replays during the week.
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crimsoncrusoe wrote:Super Rugby ratings aren't great. Crowd ain't good to either for Melbourne Rebels Only 11K last Friday & the season is still new
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Top ten sports broadcasts for the week.
1 LIVE: NRL WESTS TIGERS V RAIDERS FOX SPORTS 2 Mon 19:00 315,000
2 LIVE: AFL HAWTHORN V COLLINGWOOD FOX FOOTY Fri 19:30 267,000
3 LIVE: NRL EELS V SEA EAGLES FOX SPORTS 2 Sat 19:30 266,000
4 LIVE: NRL PANTHERS V SHARKS FOX SPORTS 2 Sat 17:30 256,000
5 LIVE: AFL RICHMOND V CARLTON FOX FOOTY Thu 19:30 245,000
6 LIVE: NRL STORM V ROOSTERS FOX SPORTS 2 Sun 14:00 235,000
7 LIVE: AFL GOLD COAST V ADELAIDE FOX FOOTY Sat 16:30 211,000
8 LIVE: AFL NORTH MELBOURNE V ESSENDON FOX FOOTY Sat 19:30 209,000
9 LIVE: AFL MELBOURNE V LIONS FOX FOOTY Sat 13:30 192,000
10 LIVE: NRL MONDAY POST GAME SHOW FOX SPORTS 2 Mon 20:49 130,000
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ozboy
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Sirocco wrote:Top ten sports broadcasts for the week.
1 LIVE: NRL WESTS TIGERS V RAIDERS FOX SPORTS 2 Mon 19:00 315,000
2 LIVE: AFL HAWTHORN V COLLINGWOOD FOX FOOTY Fri 19:30 267,000
3 LIVE: NRL EELS V SEA EAGLES FOX SPORTS 2 Sat 19:30 266,000
4 LIVE: NRL PANTHERS V SHARKS FOX SPORTS 2 Sat 17:30 256,000
5 LIVE: AFL RICHMOND V CARLTON FOX FOOTY Thu 19:30 245,000
6 LIVE: NRL STORM V ROOSTERS FOX SPORTS 2 Sun 14:00 235,000
7 LIVE: AFL GOLD COAST V ADELAIDE FOX FOOTY Sat 16:30 211,000
8 LIVE: AFL NORTH MELBOURNE V ESSENDON FOX FOOTY Sat 19:30 209,000
9 LIVE: AFL MELBOURNE V LIONS FOX FOOTY Sat 13:30 192,000
10 LIVE: NRL MONDAY POST GAME SHOW FOX SPORTS 2 Mon 20:49 130,000
How many games on Fox Footy are shown on channel 7 at the same time? If these AFL figures continue, FOX will make big losses on their investment :idea: :idea:
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ozboy wrote:
How many games on Fox Footy are shown on channel 7 at the same time?
If these AFL figures continue, FOX will make big losses on their investment :idea: :idea:
I think Hawthorn v Collingwood, Fremantle v Geelong and Port Adelaide v St kilda were shown on FTA. Fox Footy is the highest rating channel for Foxtel so im sure they are happy with their investment so far. Top 5 STV Channels FOX FOOTY FOX SPORTS 2 FOX8* The LifeStyle Channel* FOX SPORTS 3 *Includes plus 2 channels
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Super Rugby continues it's slide.Like A-League it has no free to air coverage.At least weare holding solid in the face of the swamping coverage of NRLand AFL.
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