will all games being simulcast on fox reduce the AFL FTA viewership? OR has it?

Also on a kinda related note. Delayed games are now a thing of the past. I doubt very much if any new TV rights deal includes not live rights.

Mate - it took one round into the AFL season for Fox Footy to be the top rating STV channel in the land, how on Earth can you do better than that??!! One round!!

Fox is the highest rating pay tv operator in Australia. See its easy to create context...

I was only talking about PayTV figures, and why NRL does so well.
But without seeing the FTA figures, I'd imagine FTA numbers for AFL would be massively swayed by Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth viewers.
Sydney and Brisbane figures would probably be a lot lower. But would be interesting to see those figures.

anyone think the NRL may vy for a channel on their own given the AFLs lead? and having better ratings.

I would personally love to see Fox footy, Fox NRL, Fox Football, and Fox Sports (for other I guess, union, etc). with Fox football having all A-league, EPL, maybe some more championship games, and also perhaps fox to look at some other leagues? there seems to be almost a channels worth of replays and shows on that are football related already. Bit of a pipe dream, but would be amazing.

Its been a long time since I have seen Sydney AFL FTA ratings but from what I recall the only decent figure was for Swans games.

Melbournians have no money to subscribe to Fox because they've wasted it betting on who is going to be the next coach of MV.

Yes, afl rates poorly in Sydney.

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Afl ratings are swayed by afl states and nrl by nrl states, which of course, obviously isn't news.

The fta figures are available for anyone to see by following the links provided in many posts in this thread.

to be fair to the afl

Brisbane
Gws
Gold Coast aren't contenders atm.

Both pay and FTA ratings are up on round 1 last year, in aggregate, by some 65%.

First round attendances were an all time record for the first round, averaging 40k.

Way to go GWS Giants. Another 39 memberships sold this week. Stunning effort after 76 being sold last week. How long can they sustain the pace? 8,145 is the total now.

Seriously though the inclusion of another AFL club in Australia's biggest payTV market should be good for Fox overall as will the new football team in western Sydney. Sydney is the mainstay of Fox's football ratings so that will be reinforced significantly.

Should the Fox Footy channel lead to a significant increase in subscription uptake in Melbourne there could be a spin off for A-League ratings as well.

Exiting time for all codes really.

Sorry Mister Footy - you really don't like presenting the facts do you. I read in the paper that the first round crowds were just short of the record.

Not sure what to make of the AFL crowd claims anyway. The crowds in Melb were obviusly big and came across great on tv but I went to the Suns game and the crowd was put up as just short of 13,000. There is no way more than 8,000 went and I know about 8 people that went and not one bought a ticket.
Sorry to add balance to your enthusiasm.

Obviously, other codes have a habit of exaggerating crowds, unlike the Aleague whom have a habit of always understating their crowds. How else could the afl gain such high numbers when we know they're not popular enough to do so?

The best method of lessening the gap between the aleague crowds and other codes is to claim the others are false. If we can't catch up, we'll pull them back to us.

The entire round is played on one channel, of course the channel will rate well, but that does not mean its more popular than the NRL, the fact is the NRL s spread over multiple channels and so their is no means of accurately comparing the two, now if we start looking at the ratings of the exclusive Fox games for both codes.....

There was a public admission that NRL do, around 12 months or so ago. IIRC it was one of the stadium owners who stated such.

NRL is the top rating code on Fox. Mr Aussie Rules struggles with channel spatial awareness...

Last Sunday Fox Footy had six shows out of the top 20 Fox shows, inlcuding the top two, both AFL games, and both shown on FTA in the states of one of the competing teams (getting very good FTA ratings for the respective states). The NRL game was third.

The AFL ratings for round one were 65% on round one for last season.

It was a record aggregate attendance for an opening round for the season, but it was only the second highest all time attendance for a round.

Achieving a 40k average for the first round was a very good result considering both the Suns and GWS had home games, in fact, it's an astonishing result.

On Monday night, with no game on, Fox Footy still got 3 shows into the top 20.

ON Tuesday night, AFL 360 was the top rating show, the only other Fox sports show in the top 20 was another Fox Footy show.

We'll see this all season - this is why Fox paid the big bucks to the AFL.

Why should any football fan give a stuff about any of the information you've provided?

Nope. They did it increase subscriptions, not ratings. The former increases revenue, the latter doesn't.

Edited by stefcep: 5/4/2012 02:32:36 PM

Regardless of the subject at hand, the higher the ratings, the higher the advertising revenue.

Foxtel make close to 50% of their revenue through advertising, by law they can't make any more than that.

Many on this forum have a limited knowledge of the business of sport, I'm in a position to help these people, and in any event, my more recent posts were directed at League fans making grandiose claims, not died in the wool soccer fans such as yourself.

When AFL went head to head with NRL on Saturday night, NRL held the top two positions, by a decent margin over AFL
Then on Monday NRL got 317,000 with no competition, which was 50,000 more than the AFL's best of 267,000 on Friday with no competition.
The stats don't lie: NRL is a bigger sport to Fox than AFL

You have to also factor in that NRL have advertising during their games. AFL doesn't.
Advertisers pay the greatest dollars for the highest viewed games.

In case you didn't notice, in answer to..



i said....



which means, "Advertisers pay the greatest dollars for the highest viewed games."

Yes, but what do sponsors get if there is NO advertising, even if AFL was 100K per game better than NRL?

Why did they make that law for?