Arosina's Dutch/KNVB scepticism


Arosina's Dutch/KNVB scepticism

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Decentric wrote:
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* Why is everyone so obsessed with formations - it clearly identifies a lack of working knowledge of the game. Passing combinatons, players working off the ball and technical ability are about a billion times more relevant to the game.

Edited by JuveJuve: 15/12/2011 11:31:33 AM



Movement and technical ability, passing combinations, off the ball movement etc, is a massive part of KNVB methodology. I would assum eit is the same in Barca Academy, Coverciano and Clairefontaine too.

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Well umm that isthe game after all, if it failed to incorporate any of that then I'm not sure what game would be being taught?
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JuveJuve wrote:
Decentric wrote:
JuveJuve wrote:

* Why is everyone so obsessed with formations - it clearly identifies a lack of working knowledge of the game. Passing combinatons, players working off the ball and technical ability are about a billion times more relevant to the game.

Edited by JuveJuve: 15/12/2011 11:31:33 AM



Movement and technical ability, passing combinations, off the ball movement etc, is a massive part of KNVB methodology. I would assum eit is the same in Barca Academy, Coverciano and Clairefontaine too.

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Well umm that isthe game after all, if it failed to incorporate any of that then I'm not sure what game would be being taught?




You may be alarmed that none of it was taught in the FFA Youth Licence in 2007.

Many experienced coaches learnt nothing new for the training ground in that course.
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I would think Australian football should look like this
Australian style goal keepers
English style centre backs
Dutch style wing backs
English style central Midfielder + dead ball specialist
Spanish style attacking midfielders
Brazilian #10
2 Argentinian attackers
I can not see how using the Dutch development system stops us in anyway from producing these players.



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Decentric wrote:
Australia played better against Japan in Melbourne in the World Cup qualifier under Pim, than the Asian Cup final under Holger.

There was a ridiculously high percentage of long, high crosses launched from just over the half way line in the general direction of our capable heading target forwards in the Asian Cup.


The MCG game was where Pim played Carle wide left where his total lack of defensive workrate exposed Stefanutto time and time again. Another case of a coach not knowing his players. IIRC both our goals in this game were Cahill headers from set pieces.

I don't remember the Asian Cup game as well but I do remember that we were clearly the better team which is something I doubt would occur against Japan using basic long ball football.

Sure Holger definitely has his problems but he is a clear step up from Verbeek's anti-football.


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Decentric wrote:
Arosina, have you heard of Valery Lobanovski, the Dynamo Kiev and Soviet coach? He pioneered the comprehensive stats that Arsene Wenger, Alex Ferguson and Sam Allardice love to analyse.


Yes. I'm not sure what else to say.


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