1 Bonnyrigg White Eagles 13 9 2 2 27 12 15 29
2 South Coast Wolves 13 8 4 1 25 20 5 25
3 Marconi Stallions 13 7 4 2 21 18 3 23
4 Blacktown City FC 14 6 4 4 25 22 3 22
5 Sydney Olympic 13 6 4 3 22 15 7 21
6 Sydney United 58 FC 14 5 6 3 16 20 -4 18
7 Rockdale City Suns 13 5 6 2 19 19 0 17

Looking at the table with 8 games to go. Bonnyrigg are definately in. South Coast Wolves and Marconi look pretty safe. Olympic have a game in hand and could find themselves in the top 4.

After sitting in the top 3 position all year Blacktown City have had 2 losses in a row which has seriously affected their chances of a top 4 finish. City will need to pull their fingers out.

Sydney United have played the extra game the same as city. The table will change dramatically after the catchup rounds are played.

Catchup games...

Rockdale City Suns v Parramatta FC, Friday 6th of July, 8:15 pm Ilinden Sports Centre

Bonnyrigg White Eagles v South Coast Wolves, Saturday 7th of July, 7:00 pm Bonnyrigg Sports Club

Manly United FC v Marconi Stallions, Saturday 7th of July, 7:00 pm Cromer Park

Catchup games yet to be rescheduled.

Manly United FC V Sydney Olympic
APIA Leichhardt Tigers V Sutherland Sharks



Edited by Aussiesrus: 3/7/2012 06:54:43 PM

still cant believe we lost to the wolves. they created very little and whilst theyre well organised and well stcutured, for the lfie of me i cant see how they are getting the results theyve been getting.
anyway, costly loss for us thats for sure.

Wolves were average against us as well... they only got the points thanks to 2 dodgy disallowed goals and a last minute screamer.

They're obviously doing something right though

Kolner,

Guess it boils down to putting away your chances when they come. I've seen it quite often 2 even teams in every respect except one scores one doesn't.

I haven't seen wolves or bonnyrigg as yet but will get a fair idea when they come to lily homes.

Catchup games...

Rockdale City Suns v Parramatta FC, Friday 6th of July, 8:15 pm Ilinden Sports Centre

Bonnyrigg White Eagles v South Coast Wolves, Saturday 7th of July, 7:00 pm Bonnyrigg Sports Club

Manly United FC v Marconi Stallions, Saturday 7th of July, 7:00 pm Cromer Park

Catchup games yet to be rescheduled.

Manly United FC V Sydney Olympic
APIA Leichhardt Tigers V Sutherland Sharks

Rockdale should get the 3 points in that one.

i hope so mate but dont discount parramatta. they will be desperate for a win and will throw everything at us. theyve been very competitive and unlucky in quite a few games so it could go either way. anyway, im hoping our boys turn up cause its a crunch game for us if we want to play finals football.

Kolner,

If you blokes turn up like you did against City then Parra are in for a torrid time. Especially since you have the homeground advantage. 3 More points will put you blokes in 6th place outright and 2 points behind City in 5th spot.

Parra are well and truly gone for the season and going back to NSWSL next season.

So good luck.

Batfink,

It's time for your lad to start shopping for another club next season unless he is happy in NSWSL next year.

Dunno what he has planned...depends on the superleague results reall doesn't it......

If northern tigers take out the super league comp then parramatta are safe, as i believe they don't want to come up, in any case i'm not really to worried, he can go back oversea's or try for another NSWPL team or go back to NSWSL....no great problem....it is after all only football, family health and happiness are more important....

you know how much nepotism and favourtism there is in football.....not always how good you are but more to do with who's arse you lick and who's palm your grease......

it is possible that position wont automatically mean relegationpending the outcome of the competition review, the final details of which will be finalised in the coming weeks.

parra will be competitive as its now or never for them. a loss against us and its pretty much the spoon so i expect them to be fired up. also, sterrey will want a big performance against us!

NSWSL is between Bankstown City Lions and Northern Tigers. Bankstown want to be back in NSWPL and meet all the criteria.

I was of the understanding the proposed changes for next season was voted down big time.

Parra already have the spoon sewn up on the club championship no matter how much Sterrey yells.

Bottom 3
Manly United FC 116
APIA Leichhardt Tigers 101
Parramatta FC 75

http://www.nswpl.com.au/fileadmin/user_upload/Competitions/Club_Championship_2012/Round_14_Men_s_Premier_League_Club_Championship.pdf

Edited by Aussiesrus: 4/7/2012 02:32:18 PM

mate, a number of changes will be coming in. not all, but a lot. they include:
- introduction of the points systemf or first grade- i understand it may start higher than first suggested and then be reduced over a couple of years;
- youth to start at u12's, 16's to be part of seniors although not part of club championshsip
- change in points system for club championshsip, more points for 20's;
- uniform fees across the board for youth, more stringent requirements for coaching qualifications for coaches in youth and senior level;
- pdp /metro/sap all gone - new sap program- similar to pdp but open to everyone- i think clubs will have to apply - for ages 9-11
- no youth programs beneath the top 2 tiers
- less stringent criteria for SL teams to come up to PL- eg stadium requirements

i know theres a push from some associations and some LS clubs for the following as well:

- possibility of promotion to premier youth even if your first grade are not at that level
- requirement that each PL club have junior teams in associations (most do anyway)

from what i hear, the conference idea for youth wont be pursued.

anyway, wait and see. if this happens, im all for most of it but i strongly disagree with the points system for first grade. it will turn the league into a glorified under 20's comp with a few old heads. the NSWPL for all its problems, football wise, is the 2nd best comp in the country behind the a-league. the points system will change the landscpae significantly. i think it needs to be more balanced. allow a few more over 25's, increase the points.

just my thoughts. wait and see.

Doesn't happen as much in First Grade batfink.

If your boy is good enough, he will get noticed and it doesn't matter if he plays for Parra FC.

Everyone knows everyone in the NSWPL and if a player plays well, he gets noticed.

usually i agree with much of what you say...but right here i don't.......sorry

he is definately good enough.....he has played professionally....have plenty of people tell me how good he is and rate him......but do you think he gets a chance.....problem i think is he has been used as a utility player by so many coaches that he hasn't had the opportunity to stamp his mark on a particular position.........

200% correct

Choices.

Edited by Aussiesrus: 4/7/2012 09:10:59 PM

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usually i agree with much of what you say...but right here i don't.......sorry

he is definately good enough.....he has played professionally....have plenty of people tell me how good he is and rate him......but do you think he gets a chance.....problem i think is he has been used as a utility player by so many coaches that he hasn't had the opportunity to stamp his mark on a particular position......... [/quote]

Fair point, but I disagree.

Most, if not all, of all the good young boys in the NSWPL have had a shot or gig in an Aleague club, whether that be in the youth or firsts.

For example, take a look at the Demons?! Nearly half their squad have worn an Aleague jersey at some stage or another, again either firsts or youth.

My recommendaiton would be to get your boy to a NSWPL club that

(a) Aleague coaches watch and respect
(b) A club that is reasonably successful
(c) A club where the coach and board will push your boy to higher honours

I know for a fact that if most decent clubs in the NSWPL have a talented boy, they will make calls and enquiries to get that boy to the Aleague.

I doubt the clowns at Parra FC would do that.

Edited by ralerasic: 5/7/2012 10:24:24 AM

Precisely ralerasic.

That's what I mean by "choices" batfink.

I probably should have said "Options" as a better word.

When Kabsy told me he was going to Parra FC I thought he was making a very bad choice and advised against it. The reason being is that Parra finished bottom last year and unless they were making a lot of very good signings would end up bottom again given granvilles shoe string budget. Bottom sides suffer from a losing culture which puts immense pressure on the coaches and players. Immense pressure also causes a lot of mistakes. In other words nothing good can come from a good player being at a bottom of the table club. His talents become wasted because the players/coaches around him are not good enough to promote/enhance his skills. It's all very negative for all concerned.

So there are a lot better "choices" as in clubs if one is given the "option"

I suppose at the end of the day it really boils down to what your lad wants to do.

Batfink, You and I are both parents and are probably the worst judges of our own lads abilities. That's why it is important for them to be with the "right" club and let "right" people who know decide what is best. It all starts with being at the right club first and foremost.

Kabsy was already playing for the premiership winning Central Coast Mariners NYL side so was always on the radar of A-League coaches, His performance whilst at Parra sealed his deal. So in his case it had nothing to do with Parra as a club with respect to Kabsy moving forward in his career, It was more do to with his former club.

Edited by Aussiesrus: 5/7/2012 11:04:22 AM

Kabsy was already well known, and had a very good season at the Mariners youth side.

Playing at Parra FC won't get you anywhere quick.

Constant relegation battles can't be good for a players development, nor playing for a coach that plays 5 at the back and is more defensive than Julia with the carbon tax.

Absolutely.

If a player wants to move forward in his career he needs to be with the best club, train under the best coaches, with the best players in a positive development environment. A player will not find this with the wrong club and end up going downhill. Success breeds success and winning cultures in players. It's all a very positive environment.

This is why I took my lad to develope at Blacktown City and hopefully will be signed as a demon oneday. If not then he is simply not good enough. But at least he gives himself the best chance with the right club to start with.

Another club which has turned around their fortunes is Rockdale under new coach Mark Rudan. He turned a losing culture into a winning one and i'm sure some of the rockdale lads have come under the eye of a-league coaches.

Edited by Aussiesrus: 5/7/2012 11:51:49 AM

I don't know why FNSW would want to remove the criteria to participate in the flagship league.

There should always be a minimum standard set for the respectability of the league, this should include as a floor: adequate lighting, a minimum number of covered seats and the quality of the pitch for both players and spectators.

Travelling around the Super League grounds this season, the only two teams with the facilities are Bankstown and Macarthur. We all know Jensen for what it is, a cosy, intimate English Conference style ground. Lynwood Park has also turned into a wonderful lower league facility with their new covered and seated stand on one side and the members area on the other.

If Northern Tigers ask for promotion and to play at Mills Park it will be nothing short of a disgrace for FNSW to accept them. I went there on Sunday for the second time this year and it is simply bewildering. There is no gate at the ground, you simply just walk inside because in the most literal sense it is just a local park (like at your local association ground). They have a grand total of about 6 lights at the ground. The pitch is nothing short of a disgrace in terms of quality, with bare patches and different kinds of grass. The only worse pitch I have seen in my life was a Vietnamese Second Division pitch in Quang Ninh. There is not a single seat at the ground. There is a very small three step concrete terrace where about 20 people can stand and about 4 silver benches.

Berries play at The Crest which is where schools have their athletics carnivals. There are only concrete terraces here and it's not a football facility. If they were to miraculously pull off promotion, they would move back to Lidcombe Oval which is equally inadequate for football. But they don't want to be promoted anyhow.

That's it for the contenders. The rest of the facilities are almost as inadequate as Mills Park. Half of Fraser's tiny stand is condemned. Arlington Oval is what it is, but Dulwich Hill wont have to worry about getting promoted.

lol......ok gents no worries....funny thing when he was a blacktown city he was player of the year....and got cut......not because of not being good enough, due to politics.....

you won't change my view.....perhaps Len your on the in and kiss some arse...i don't know,but best of luck to you.....

its funny that you have mentioned my boys name on this forum and commented on his talents.......

Batfink,

I don't suspect ralerasic knew your lad was at City. He was just trying to give you some helpful advice.

I knew your lad was previously at city cause of my ASA ties and your pm. Without having seen him play that's how I know he is a good player. That's also why I mentioned Rockdale for you, Team on the up with an attitude changing coach.

Mate I never kiss arse. I think your being a bit parra negative there. If he is good enough my lad will make it. If not then he won't. That's a fate yet to be determined and no amount of kissing arse will change this. City work by performance which is why they have all 3 grades in the top 4 all year. Especially the U/20's which is full of very very talented players. Even previously experienced NSWPL and overseas players trialling have been cut from this side. So it's a tough side to crack even for good players.

I was looking forward to watching your lad play when City meets Parra at Lily homes but cannot come to the game that day. Unfortunately.

Edited by Aussiesrus: 5/7/2012 02:29:30 PM

I continue to say there is some very good players in that Parra side, including your boy which I believe was one of those players I said were very good at Parra.

My view remains that playing there can't be good for his future in the sport, well that's if he has ambitions.



Edited by ralerasic: 5/7/2012 02:36:58 PM

he is wanting to find another club, but it isn't that easy......

Putting the past behind him is a good start. He is a good player, Has NSWPL experience and played pro football. Put together a CV and send it too a few good clubs. I think you will find quite few clubs will show interest. It's just a matter of choosing which suits your lads ambitions.

i find it funny...the simple things are the hardest.....you say "a few good clubs" who are they...????? only as good as the person running them or taking the enquiry......perhaps its a presidents wife or the canteen manager....just isn't that easy...you have to know who, when where and why...and unfortunately i don't..........

never mind......just another wasted talent due to the football culture in australia...other codes are into chasing players and are more pro active...football is about who you know who is related to who or connected to so and so, and who used to play for them or them......and 90% of the time it's a flop... very very few decent coaches in the NSWPL and NSWSL maybe 4 or 5 max...... like sterry....all the players want him to go and let franco take over but it won't happen.......to many dinosaurs in football..........and vested interests...

Edited by batfink: 5/7/2012 10:20:23 PM