Joffa
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Quote:Serious cash for new Big Bash deal Andrew Wu February 8, 2012 THE raging success of Cricket Australia's Twenty20 revolution this summer could deliver the game a $100 million windfall for its next TV rights deal and change the way fans across the country watch the Big Bash League. A leading sports media analyst has told the Herald CA can expect to reap $80 million to $100 million for a five-year deal when its contract with broadcast partners Channel Nine and Fox Sports expires after next summer. ''If it keeps on going the way it's going it could even be north of that, significantly more,'' the analyst said. That would still be well short of the $1.253 billion five-year deal the AFL signed last year but slightly superior to the seven-year $120 million agreement Football Federation Australia signed with Fox Sports for the A-League in 2006.Channel Nine now pays $315 million over seven years for the right to show Tests, one-day and Twenty20 internationals in Australia, while Fox is the home of domestic competitions such as the Big Bash League, national one-day competition and the Sheffield Shield final. CA refused to speculate on the value of their rights but spokesman Peter Young last night said: ''We are confident that it will be a lucrative tournament.'' The analyst said Big Bash League games could be split between different channels in a model similar to that of the AFL. ''You could even envisage things like simulcast between pay and free,'' the analyst said. ''Channel Nine will be there, it wouldn't surprise me if Channel Ten and Channel Seven were there as well. This will be a must retain for Fox Sports.'' CA has not ruled out such a scenario. ''We are interested in being as innovative as we can and the networks seem to be similarly inclined,'' Young said. ''This is new age, new era stuff in terms of what it looks like on the field and it will be the same off-field in terms of how it is distributed via television and other distributed channels.'' Fox is set to come under fierce pressure from free-to-air channels to retain the rights beyond next summer after the Big Bash League's ratings and crowd bonanza this season. The average audience per game increased 82 per cent on last season, up from 155,000 to 282,000. The 448,000 who tuned into last month's final, up 56 per cent on the year before, made it the competition's second-most watched game this summer, behind only Shane Warne's debut for Melbourne Stars against Sydney Thunder on December 17. The Big Bash League boasted 13 of the top 100 sporting events on pay TV last year, beating the AFL's eight but behind rugby, which had 19 thanks to the World Cup, and the NRL's 60. The analyst said the Big Bash League, rather than drawing numbers away from its main summer rival, the A-League, had created a new market, which is a fillip for CA in its push to use Twenty20 to lure new fans to cricket. ''Clearly the Big Bash has taken the Australian sports market by storm,'' the analyst said. ''Australians are just embracing it because it is a great family sport with the shorter period of time.'' Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/serious-cash-for-new-big-bash-deal-20120207-1r5fa.html#ixzz1lmQJkAaL Edited by Joffa: 8/2/2012 08:16:58 PMEdited by Joffa: 8/2/2012 08:21:14 PM
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Joffa
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Quote:The analyst said the Big Bash League, rather than drawing numbers away from its main summer rival, the A-League, had created a new market, Interesting interpretation of the figures/ratings which bodes well for our own TV deal, especially if the Big Bash moves to free to air.
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Heart_Fan10
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when will the new deal be decided by?
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footballfreak
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tell that to the bitters :lol:
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patjennings
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Heart_Fan10 wrote:when will the new deal be decided by? Doesn't need to be done until the end of next season - but Buckley said earlier that they are already in negotiations and looking to wrap it up by June.
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Sirocco
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A leading analyst that doesnt put his name to the story..................., and he actually doesnt say it wont affect the A-league deal.
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asanchez
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patjennings wrote:Heart_Fan10 wrote:when will the new deal be decided by? Doesn't need to be done until the end of next season - but Buckley said earlier that they are already in negotiations and looking to wrap it up by June. Have heard or read the same. But never heard about June! Source??
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patjennings
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asanchez wrote:patjennings wrote:Heart_Fan10 wrote:when will the new deal be decided by? Doesn't need to be done until the end of next season - but Buckley said earlier that they are already in negotiations and looking to wrap it up by June. Have heard or read the same. But never heard about June! Source?? It was in an video interview either on the day the Smith review reported or the day after. I can't find it at the moment.
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asanchez
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I think if the T20 goes to FTA, as has been reported, then it won't affect our deal. However if it stays on Fox, will all the hype and high TV ratings, Fox may have to splash the extra cash, and it could hurt our new deal. Whatever happens, as long as we can get a good outcome for our code, we should sign a contract ASAP. I think we need at least $40-$45m a year to grow.
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vanbasten88
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Was the BBL such a success?? really, well, considering the way it had its tires pumped up by the Mainstream media, I wonder how much of the contra 'coverage' that drove the 'success' will die out when people inevitably get bored of the new plaything that is T20 cricket? Remember when the 50 over game wasn't boring and staid? As a football; fan, I'm not worried by the BBL. Football continues to improve its lot year by year. We might never be the undisputed #1 Summer sport in this country, but we're doing a shedload better than we were 7 years ago. I am sure the new HAL broadcast agreement will take that into account.
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The worst move may be to offer FTA coverage to SBS.
Foxtel has backed the HAL all the way and really helped promote it. Yes it restricts the number of peoople who can watch it, but it gives excellent live coverage and media promotion not just through TV but on its website as well.
To now somewhat go behind Foxtels back may be a killer move that would just pee them off. They may be willing to increase the media deal nicely enough to again back the product, help ensure clubs and FFA are more financially stable and able to better promote themselves.
Going to SBS would be pointless unless its the best game of the round, in which case your taking away a large chunk of funding from foxtel and giving it away for free. There is no point having anything but the best game on FTA as it removes the point in advertising the game.
Stick with Foxtel, hopefully with a deal that keep the owners interested for another few years until the next deal, and keep building up the product within the markets they operate.
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dpg2004
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im over this topic, and crowd topics
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Heart_fan
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^^ I agree. Gets very tiring.
One thing though, c9 are in a position currently where they are trying to restructure substantial debts. That makes it harder to splash the cash. They also states that they wanted the rights but only if CA commited to having the bigger names playing. They likely know there is limited long term value in a comp like the BBL in it's current form.
Good luck FFA in getting a good deal.
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Look at the unease of the little girls trying their hardest to find negatives in the cricket and reasons why it will fail instead of finding positives in the aleague and reasons why it will succeed.
Like a sulking school girl whom didn't get the biggest bag of lollies, " Derrrrrrrr, i don't want that big bag anyway cuz i don't like them cuz they ain't no good, so there." she says as she stands with her hands on her hips in a defiant pose. Then, as she walks off, she drops her pouting bottom lip so low she trips over it and falls flat on her face. The other girl shakes her head and giggles.
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Shatter
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vanbasten88 wrote:Was the BBL such a success?? really, well, considering the way it had its tires pumped up by the Mainstream media, I wonder how much of the contra 'coverage' that drove the 'success' will die out when people inevitably get bored of the new plaything that is T20 cricket? Remember when the 50 over game wasn't boring and staid? As a football; fan, I'm not worried by the BBL. Football continues to improve its lot year by year. We might never be the undisputed #1 Summer sport in this country, but we're doing a shedload better than we were 7 years ago. I am sure the new HAL broadcast agreement will take that into account. Can't compare T20 and OD. The only difference between OD and Test cricket is the length in days. The length in hours is still the same. If you work or go to school you cannot access the entire match. T20 is far more condensed and accessible for audiences. Cricket will shoot itself in the foot though if they extend the T20 season. It's very effective over December and January. Extending it and moving Shield to winter (which has been suggested) would slowly kill it. I went to all the Sixers games and it ended at about the right time. Anymore and it would've pushed the friendship. Personally, I didn't feel any conflict whatsoever with my support of the A-League. It has opened up a new quick and dirty market over the silly season.
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skeptic wrote:Look at the unease of the little girls trying their hardest to find negatives in the cricket and reasons why it will fail instead of finding positives in the aleague and reasons why it will succeed.
Like a sulking school girl whom didn't get the biggest bag of lollies, " Derrrrrrrr, i don't want that big bag anyway cuz i don't like them cuz they ain't no good, so there." she says as she stands with her hands on her hips in a defiant pose. Then, as she walks off, she drops her pouting bottom lip so low she trips over it and falls flat on her face. The other girl shakes her head and giggles. So, why is this comment needed? Rather then make a point, you're complaining that others aren't. Nicely done. =d>
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skeptic
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Ali07 wrote: So, why is this comment needed? Rather then make a point, you're complaining that others aren't. Nicely done. =d>
I made my point very well, thank you, to an insular bastard, regularly displaying his jealousy of the popularity of cricket and whom continually puts it down as if it was a dangerous foreign virus to be eradicated. Thanks for your concern, however.
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My understanding is that T20 was revamped this season after failing to make a big impact in previous seasons.I think it was Brad Macnamara or some other ex NSW state player who was responsible for the re-vamp.Now what is interesting is that in previous seasons of T20 the crowds were very good.That is my recollection anyway.Plus this season bucket loads of money were spent on marketing and paying for the latest version.I am pretty sure the whole concept is run on a loss leader,with no money made unless the tv deals payoff. If you analyse everything,this makes sense.Big wages have been paid.All the big stadiums were booked and all the money was spent on advertising.There was limited sponsorship and no big bucks from Foxtel. In a sense its a bit like the A-League cost wise.They spent much more on advertising but also got bigger crowds to pay for it.Big salaries probably match A-League salaries on a monthly basis and stadium costs would be similar. The ratings were great hence the prospect of a pay day in future.But at this point in time ,there probably isn't that much money in the bank. The big risk T20 still face is that The big names aren't getting any younger.So would a TV want to pay big bucks for a game that peaked at the start and can only really go one way?
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skeptic
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crimsoncrusoe wrote: The big risk T20 still face is that The big names aren't getting any younger.
So, in world cricket and particularity T20, the big names aren't replaced by up and coming big names like every other sport in the world? Of course they are and always have been, including this season. Quote:So would a TV want to pay big bucks for a game that peaked at the start and can only really go one way? So it reached it's peak in the second year and can only really go downhill now? Okie dokie. Edited by skeptic: 10/2/2012 09:25:59 PM
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This season the likes of Warnie and Hayden were the face of The Big Bash in Qld .I presume this was the case in other states? In case you didn't realise the current Austra ian players were playing Test cricket while T20 was being played.So T20 was made up of old stars,state players and overseas stars.Warner the best T20 player ,allegedly,didn't play. So what happens if the best players from australia continue to be unavailable?Whatbhappens when Warnie and Hayden can no longer hold a bat and a zimmer frame?Realistically ,the season can't be easily extended beyond one month,because of clashes with other cricket here and overseas.So that limits the availability of overseas stars. So you see.T20 has limited ability to expand beyond one month and greater capacity to be relying on older and older players.The new stars will be locked up wit Australian commitments. Having said all that ,The crowd and TV figures are good so I dont see any drastic demise.But equally I still see more downside than up.But thats my guess.
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crimsoncrusoe wrote:This season the likes of Warnie and Hayden were the face of The Big Bash in Qld .I presume this was the case in other states? In case you didn't realise the current Austra ian players were playing Test cricket while T20 was being played.So T20 was made up of old stars,state players and overseas stars.Warner the best T20 player ,allegedly,didn't play. So what happens if the best players from australia continue to be unavailable?Whatbhappens when Warnie and Hayden can no longer hold a bat and a zimmer frame?Realistically ,the season can't be easily extended beyond one month,because of clashes with other cricket here and overseas.So that limits the availability of overseas stars. So you see.T20 has limited ability to expand beyond one month and greater capacity to be relying on older and older players.The new stars will be locked up wit Australian commitments. Having said all that ,The crowd and TV figures are good so I dont see any drastic demise.But equally I still see more downside than up.But thats my guess. Cricket has one advantage football doesnt - it is cricket. In the eyes of mainstream Australia it is a true summer sport and with enough incentive people will flock to it in numbers. Despite all its flaws it comprehensively outrated the A League on payTV and in the stands. Everything we claim hinders our game - payTV, mid week games, rain, other sports being played - a brand new plastic competition managed to overcome. It reached a stage where we were comfortable using the T20 games as reason to justify a dip in our own attendances and viewing figures. The thing is it doesnt have to be extended. All it has to be is a 6 week smash and grab by Cricket Australia
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This wont hurt anything. And to be honest a high price for that would be good for us as it will give us something to compare to.
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