Interesting... A positive Olympic entry thread.....

Would like these old NSL clubs back in, provided they're serving the geographical community

We wouldn't want it any other way mate. We wont be boxed in - we are a club for everyone.

All we want is for people to think about it. Many have already come around - seeing the postives. Many are slowly coming around.

As I said, we had fans of all different backgrounds at our recent fan meeting. They love the club as much as any traditional supporter.

We are offering an alternative to the "franchise models". And this is a movement from the bottom up, not the top down. Olympic was formed in the 1950's by the fans. 50 years on the fans still drive her.

I don't know what's funnier, the delusion of olympic fans or the stupid reasons some come up with for why they wouldn't want them there

Our clubs are rivals mate - that what football is all about. Great rivalries. We are clubs with history.

Sydney United supporters are amongst the most passionate in the country. You bleed red white and blue and to ask many of you to come on board would be an insult. But your club like ours is interwoven into the history of Australian Football.

You think you will solve the problems of Serb and Cro relations with a united western sydney bid :lol: mltezr, i know you're a Demons, Parramatta and WS fan, but just like you said to me, you're kidding yourself if you truly believe your bid as the power to unite people. Demons get no-one to games, Marconi gets no-one to games, and Spartans will get no-one to games. Therefore, the only Western Sydney teams that get's a crowd, is United and BWE, and you thin you can unite their supporters? :lol: You're the one kidding yourself, not me.



If you read my post earlier you would see the geographic areas that Olympic covers :)

Edited by Minimalistix: 21/2/2012 09:07:25 PM

A new franchise won't attract new people to the game?

Why do we only have to attract people from state league clubs. Have GWS in the AFL only targeted people from the AFL?

Well said. Our new fans werent necessarily Football fans of Australian Football. But they are now.

There are many people I have spoken to out there who have said "as long as Olympic do it right, we are in"

Of course, but it's the people of Western Sydney (who support a non-existent Club, only in Australia #-o ) who are talking about uniting clubs and people. I just showed mltzer that he's the one kidding himself, not me, if he actually believes it will, considering the only club in Western Sydney who get any kind of crowd is BWE and Sydney United. He's dreaming if he thinks a western sydney a-league team will unite them.

I have spoken with an official from a Western Sydney club - as nice as they are I can tell you that a merger would be too problematic. These are clubs with a history and their own identity.

It's not about merging the clubs. It does however, have more potential to bring together people sitting on the fence.

It would be great to have people who wanted to put their differences aside and join together but that is not the target. There is an untapped market of football fans who don't support a NSWPL club and don't support Sydney FC.

Olympic can have their strategies and ideas to appeal to these people, I feel a new franchise should be allowed that opportunity too and I feel have a better chance.

Edited by busbybabe: 21/2/2012 09:35:11 PM

Well you haven't been following what WS supporters have been saying, cause that is one of their targets, as mltzer has said several times over the last year or so.

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Of course it is a target but NOT the ONLY target.

where did i say it's the only target? my last post even said it's one of their targets, implying they have others.

you have serious comprehension problems as our conversation over the last few pages has proved.

Pity you didn't read this bit...



Nothing to do with ethnicity - all to do with long term rivalry.

I don't think many people see a problem with the Melbourne Derby. That has been created, it doesn't have the history but in years to come it will.

You completely missed the point him and I made.

Major comprehension problems...

I saw the point, I was making a point too.

I just want to make it clear, I have nothing but respect for Sydney Olympic, I have playd for them and continue to play against them.

I just feel that a Western Sydney franchise is a more viable option for the A-League at the moment. Sydney Olympic have a future in Australian football as do the other NSWPL/NSL clubs but for the time being, for the growth of football in Australia, a West Sydney team would benefit the league more than Olympic would.

I am far more in favour of SO coming into the HAL than a WS franchise. It has been proven that a broad WS franchise has zero appeal outside of the public domain, which though significant does not have the capacity to provide the sorts of guarantees that a FFA licensed club needs. There have been many pricks claiming to be SO fans on this forum over the years but the one who seems to be the most accurate reflection of the club is Minimalistix, if they have a majority of fans like him then I will finally be willing to welcome them into the national comp with open arms, outside of the game itself anyways - especially if he is buying.

With more Olympic fans coming on here like anothermp and Olympic1 you'll have a better idea of what our club and it's supporters are like

What your proposing is a myth and far fetched from reality.

Your club would have to virtually completely erase it's heritage, colours, name and everything that has been built around the club's Greek history to truly represent the multi cultures of western sydney. This will never happen because your club is Greek and certainly proud of it.

Your coaching staff is predominantly greek, Your player base is predominantly greek. For all intense purposes you are a greek club and represent predominantly the greek footballing community.

A-League is about representing everyone of every culture that reside in western sydney. I feel the changes needed for your club to truly represent western sydney would be too much of a culture shock to your great club for the myth to become a reality.

It would also be a shame for a truly great greek icon of the greek footballing community to be lost in pursuit of an A-league birth.

I personally feel that a a joint venture which includes a board member from each NSWPL club in the western sydney area could possibly form a new club/franchise but must be equally shared so no one single club takes ownership of the franchise. Then and only then would the new western sydney franchise be a true representation of western sydney.

Why would any club need to erase its history? Its colours? what's wrong with its colours? does every A-League team need to periodically change its colours to avoid these kinds of prejudices? Have we said we are going to abandon our club and create a new bid just for bid's sake? what difference would that be to a franchise? our club is proud of being Australian, and Im proud to be Australian too. no need to erase that.



Our coaching staff is predominantly expert and licenced. Tom Alexakis is a UEFA Licence holder, he has the experience, the credentials, the pedigree and the desire to help our club succeed. He's a logical choice as Technical Director. And we had a predominantly Greek first team lineup by coincidence for the first time in years. Olympic has always had a predominant non-Greek lineup since the 1950s, theres no weight behind this argument.



Are you sure this is what the A-League is about? Wheres the culture shock for an Australian team to be based somewhere in Australia? nobody's losing anything by respecting the integrity of the club and by working towards a better future. This is a forward-looking bid that is positive and has already started to attract broader support than people give credit.



This is not football-sound or business-sound. This is not the UN of soccer teams. We are about presenting a historic and esteemed football club whose bid shows a tight financial model and the means for success. This is a serious bid, and we mean business.

not to discredit Mr. Poulos for the contribution he's made towards our cause and the sport in general, but we certainly see your point and i think we're all glad to hear these thoughts across the country.

We are working really hard to steady our ship and prepare for a bid. we have the framework for success and winning the NSWPL last year in the fashion that we did was no small feat in its own. we want to move onto bigger and better things, a reintroduction into the A-League, to compete at the highest level again. Jealous as the Sydney United fans may be about our aspirations, I say to them, 'make it happen'.

If everyone worked to make their club as strong as it could be at every level instead of simply slagging Olympic for working its way back to the top, the state of our game would be in a lot better condition than it is.

and lol never mind mini he's a cheap bastard. first A-League match for Olympic, first two rounds for the house are on me

Edited by anothermp: 22/2/2012 08:43:08 AM

Again those people of different backgrounds who support us are not hung up on stereotypes from the past. We are all Aussies.

Now lets move on - rest assured, those driving the Olympic bid are not in it to advance their careers/business interests. They are in it for the team.

Silly silly boy.

So let me get this straight, the a-league is about western Sydney? Doesn't seem like it to me.
You're dillusional of you think u can get an Olympic and United board member to get working on a joint bid.
Why is it that Olympic is the only club across the HAL, NSWPL and VPL to have the Australian flag on its jersey?
Also, tell me how many Greeks played for Olympic in its first season of the NSL.

I suggest you read this whole topic, read up Olympics history, and it's initiatives, this way you will avoid making yourself look ignorant and silly

silly!

I think what a lot are trying to say, is a West Sydney bid does not need to be a joint bid between Olympic and United or any other NSWPL clubs.

sure, but a bid without either has failed to get anywhere near an actual A-League side what, 5 times? our bid is understandably different.

What I'm saying is 1) Olympic isn't West Sydney
2) as the United fans have said themselves, good luck in getting them onboard

I agree that Olympic isn't West Sydney, they are their own club and that's great. That should not take away from the possibility of a West Sydney team.

you cant take away from nothing. Western Sydney is a non-entity and has been for years. we on the other hand are a football club. how about we let a football club enter the a-league instead of a non-entity?