Hi Nothingschanged,

I'm not making judgements I just trying to report on the differences I observed. The shirt numbering system, the type of tackles and use of the upper body and the corner kick positioning.
For us here it is not the norm, so when you see something different you like to take note of it. Wether you want to use it or not is upto you.

What I do put down to key differences is that;

1) it is the national sport
2) there is a critical mass of players
3) it is part of the culture
4) they have a more established coaching infrastructure and base of knowledge
5) better infrastructure, stadiums, grounds and more synthetic pitches
6) even the number of tournaments that attract teams from all over the world from which they can observe and compete against different practices and systems of play

Most of us (including myself) don't realise how isolated we are from the rest of the footballing world, so going to a footballing nation and to see whats happening for oneself is an eye opener no matter how minor the difference.

Cheers

Hi Arthur

I wasn't having a dig at you, just trying to help put another light on it. I don't know the coach that took them to France as a person but I can sympathise with him as a coach. He'll be self analysing himself no doubt and I saw what he might perceive as digs, which possibly triggered his reaction. I thought it a bit unfair the comments he got from the others. Hopefully you can patch it up with him.

As for seeing new things, yeah I'm all for that. I approach coaching as to what I think is useful, I always come away with something I can use. Happy to help Arthur, I'll try not to sound as a know it all, I'll just give you what I've seen and experienced. Take from it what you can use, dismiss other bits if necessary, but please tell me and I can learn as well.

Can I just say having being in England then Australia and back to England, will you Aussies stop beating yourself up about your technical abilities, facilities and it's not our main sport etc. You lot have a fantastic opportunity to get things right, whereas the so called elite countries have a cumbersome job to bring about major changes. You've started with small sided games, if you control the coaching, cut out the elitist bull from the state selection and you would progress a lot quicker than you think.


You Aussies seem to be looking for a prescriptive panacea wherever possible, when you should be looking for your own style. Argentina did this in the 1920's when they decided they didn't want to play like the English they wanted their own Latin style. You guy's seem to have been saying it for the past 50 years. Lead from the bottom guys if the ones at the top aren't doing it.

Here endeth the first sermon :d

[quote=Arthur]Hi Nothingschanged,

I'm not making judgements I just trying to report on the differences I observed. The shirt numbering system, the type of tackles and use of the upper body and the corner kick positioning.
For us here it is not the norm, so when you see something different you like to take note of it. Wether you want to use it or not is upto you.

What I do put down to key differences is that;

1) it is the national sport
2) there is a critical mass of players
3) it is part of the culture
4) they have a more established coaching infrastructure and base of knowledge
5) better infrastructure, stadiums, grounds and more synthetic pitches
6) even the number of tournaments that attract teams from all over the world from which they can observe and compete against different practices and systems of play

Most of us (including myself) don't realise how isolated we are from the rest of the footballing world, so going to a footballing nation and to see whats happening for oneself is an eye opener no matter how minor the difference.

Cheers

Interesting observations Arthur, so if our junior players technical ability is similar to the French youngsters then how do we improve the 'match intensity' of youngsters?


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I was never a member of the world game forum, but it's great you're going to be posting around here. Please, sound like a know it all whenever you want :D There are people like me around who want to learn anything and everything about this kind of stuff.

Welcome, anyhow :)

Thanks Draupnir, just hope I can find my dictionary before Decentric starts posting.

Howdy to yourself General, how's Adelaide. do we know each other ?

Only from TWGF, and I think you may have posted on one of the forums that started after it that I was on for a while? But anyways, Adelaide is as always, excellent, self doubting, insular :D

Oh the land that time forgot , no holds barred. I did register on here as slowcoach, but being old and forgetting passwords i cant seem to get back on as it, so created a new identity.
Have posted on Football Anarchy, but can't get into the calling someone gay or the one who uses the most expletives to win an argument kind of routine. It was from there I found a thread about Chips and Decentric, which lead me back to here. So been lurking a while. Still get my daily fix on Football news to see whats happening in Adelaide, post now and again.

Still watch Adelaide on the internet feeds when I can, especially now Jacob and Teeboy are playing. I do miss Adelaide, but not when it's freezing and rugging up in winter, unlike a good English summer where it's cold and wet but at least we have central heating lol.

Being involved with U7's again imo the TD need to patrol the small sided games if they really want to make a difference to the quality of football in Australia.
Week in week out i see well meaning but ignorant parent coaches who probable need a little help so they do not stuff up their players for future better trained coaches.
ie last week the coach from the other team was encouraging her main player to shoot from kick off and from the side line. Whilst we won the game by a large margin her team had the ability to play better and the chances for development were lost.

It will always amaze me that when people see good or better football they do not take the opportunity to learn from it.

Arthur
How did you fund this trip?

Generally from our own pockets, while an on-line auction assisted with some spending monies.

What I did was organised a raffle for family and friends to help fund the trip, sold some old odds and ends I had at trash & treasure and a couple of council grants.

The organiser (tonycurrie) did very well with keeping costs to a minimum.

Was the coach THE Tony Currie. He certainly uses a picture of him in the photo with Pele.

If so, I hope he showed the kids a few of his old skills. The Tony C with Pele was a skillful player but I always hated him as a kid as he played for Leeds. But time heals old wounds and seeing his name brought back the memory of his goal of the season, curled in from outside the box.

Arthur
does your club have a premier league team?

No Krones we don't my club is Nunawading our seniors are in the fourth division in Victoria, though we have a well respected junior setup.

This is not to be confused with the group that went to France, it was by invitation and not a club as such.