Salty..... I love your paraphrasing and how you apparently know more about how I think than I do. Keep writing your own story so you can sit there and jerk yourself off princess.

Well 20bn was from 2010 alone, so even if you simplify and x by 6, that's 1/3 of the debt in a single hit.

Bringing up WWII to have a dig at Germany. Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel. Lets face it, you're Greek and you have an axe to grind because you're upset with your countries position in Europe. Like all millennials it's everyones fault but yours.....

My ethnicity has nothing to do with you being a sociopath.

finally crack down on the $20bn or so in tax evasion
Wheres the other €350 billion in governmental debt coming from, einstein?

Their problem is they can't do an Iceland and devalue their currency to reform as they have the Euro. .
Bingo.

Its nothing short of a shitstorm. Forcing unpayable loans on an already bankrupt country.

The problem with Greece is that everyone is lying. The European Commission and the European Central Bank are lying when they claim that the Greek “program” can work as long as Greece’s government does as it is told. Germany is lying when it insists that Greece can recover without substantial debt relief through structural reforms. The current Syriza government is lying when it insists that it has never consented to impossible fiscal targets. And, last but not least, the IMF is lying when its functionaries pretend that they are not responsible for imposing those targets on Greece.

Like i said, shitstorm.

Or heres another solution;
germany stole priceless antiquities from greece not so long ago. Well in excess of €350 billion. Germany can sell the stolen goods to china and make a profit. 

I suspect you dont really give a fuck and just wanted to vent some of your genocidal tendencies. 

Clearly a Greek. Your heritage does matter because it turns you salty......

Greece needs to restructure it's debt and accept a few more (smarter people than me know how much is enough and not too much) austerity for the short term in a deal to reduce their overall debt. Greece needs to reduce defence spending as well. Their problem is they can't do an Iceland and devalue their currency to reform as they have the Euro.

How many riots will occur if Greece is forced to back down even more to Germany? Maybe the government needs to finally crack down on the $20bn or so in tax evasion?

Sorry mate more sweeping generalisations dont make it all better. Your mate sounds like a complete fuckhead who is misinformed. And i wonder what he thinks about you wanting his entire country to starve to death.You have a limited grasp of the facts based on hearsay evidence from one of your daft mates. They havent walked away from their responsibilty to reform. Who the fuck said that.

Ill ask you again. HOW do they pay the debt? The answer to that might sway you on whther or not the entire country are dog c*nts and/or should starve to death.

PS how's your genocidal tendencies treating you these days? Have you come to peace with them?

Of course not every Greek person voted for it, no shit Sherlock. Hence my issue with those that did. It has nothing to do with them being Greek at all. It has everything to do with their lack in introspection that their government and lifestyles are an issue.

It shows a lack of leadership to ignore these kinds of issues. A good mate is Greek and posted constantly during the worldwide shitstorm. He is embarrassed by the Government's decision to walk away from their responsibility to reform. He says it's all about Greek pride and refusing to change because they've been told to. Sounds like him in a nutshell haha....

Whether or not i have greek heritage is irrelevant to the discussion,

again it must be soley my hypersensitivity... shit you only called an entire race dog c*nts and wished for them to starve, fucks my problem right?

Not every greek voted in favor, youre trivialisng and oversimpifying a huigely complex situation, youre not appreciating the reality of the situation, ive posed you the question how does one pay an inherited debt when there is no money in the country? they cant. They have nothing. There are no jobs. They are living in austerity. Anyone who has a cent to their name has left the place. you have 1st world problems. youre a fucking outsider lookig in calling a nation of people dog c*nts based on your limited grasp of the minutae..

"If New Zealand did it, i'd be equally critical of the irresponsibility shown by the people and government."
what youd call for every NZer to fucking starve to death???? Youre a piece of fucking work.

I'm not trying to worm my way out of anything, you're clearly Greek and trying to manufacture racism that doesn't exist. In no way, shape or form did I insinuate that their actions had anything to do with the ethnicity that is Greek. I clearly criticised the actions of the voting people and government on the basis of their actions and it had absolutely nothing to do with Greek heritage or the fact that they are Greek. There is no prejudice based on race/ethnicity in my comment as my comment referred to an action. If New Zealand did it, i'd be equally critical of the irresponsibility shown by the people and government.

You clearly must be Greek. One can clearly dissociate the decision making country of Greek and Greek heritage.....

You can continue to cry racism but I know what I said and what I meant and if you want to be offended, life beyond high school is going to be hard on you sweetie.  

Racial hate speech does not constiture "criticisng someones actions" are you fucking dense? 

And  now youre trying to comflate this with the islam deabte? Youre a fucking farce. 
Let me exlain another thing to you, islam is a religion, to critice islam isn't racist. And Everyone has right to freedom of speech and criticism of finite ideologies. Its a free country and if anyone is all for people speaking their unadulterated mind, its me. BUT If you call all muslim people dog c*nts that would be bigoted. To wish for all muslim people to starve is fucking sociopathic/psychopathic and criminal. 

You clearly stated that all greek people democratically chose to vote against paying back debt and that they are all therefore dog c*nts and should starve. Stop trying to worm your way out of this. Even if i was to enternain your laughably pathetic justificstion that somehow calling an entire race dog c*nts is ok, and somehow not racist, id still have to make the extraordinary leap to the condoning of millions of people starving to death.

Youre the dumbest person to have ever posted online. People for years to come will look back upon this thread with utter awe at your stupidity. Congratulations. 

No..... just no.

This is a hilarious post.

I didn't call them dog    - oops, I just ate my own poop...s because of their race, only because of their actions you absolute retard.

I'll remember to ring channel 7 next time they criticise ISIS and it's actions because obviously that's racist to.

What you're eluding to is that you essentially cannot criticise the actions and decisions of some without being racist which is just ridiculous. You clearly cannot comprehend the difference between criticising Greece as a decision making country and the Greek people. You're a joke of a person.

Lol. Im a leftard because you called an entire race dog c*nts.

Doesn't work that way. This is how it works, himler:
Youre allowed to call out the left when they are being leftards and percieving/imagining racism yhat isnt there or making outrageous statements about racial persecution that is contradicted by hard data ie white cops killing mostly black people.. a common leftard fallacy...
this is how it doesnt work: you call an entire race of people dog c*nts and then throw meaningless labels at me when i call u out for being the racist sack of shit that you are.

Australians havent been spared either eh? Do you want me to dig up the thread where you call "all aussie football fans" drop kicks? Youre unhinged.

Bethfc: "do not see how you can manufacture racism or bigotry out of it"
Bethfc: ""Greece: "we democratically came to the decision that we don't want to repay all the money we borrowed off you" Dog c*nts. Let them starve""""

Its fucking hilarious watching you dig yourself in deeper. Just apologise for your error in judgement. You may save a bit of face that way.

This is the problem with you leftard millennials, you create racism where it doesn't exist. There is nothing bigoted about it.

The intention of my original post is that the Greek people in general are dogging the hand that feeds them by having a meaningless vote to avoid paying back money they borrowed to try and maintain their ridiculous and unsustainable lifestyle.

Being a millennial you probably can't see how irresponsible it is because you wouldn't know what responsibility is.

See I can paraphrase too.

My original post was a shock at how a country can take money and then just decide they don't owe anyone anything, in bogan English they're literally dogging Europe. I do not see how you can manufacture racism or bigotry out of it.

What does calling them dog c*nts have to do with race? There was nothing racial about that post. It has everything to do with their inexcusable and irresponsible behaviour and absent leadership and nothing to do with their race.

I'm actually offended that you brought race into this.

Heres the difference between me and SJWs:

SJWs get pissed over imagined racism...
I get pissed when dumb bigot shitbags make sweeping racist statements and other tools defend them.

The difference is subtle, i know.



"you're a pathologically angry typer"

NO. IM. NOT.

Ypure fucking kiddine me right? The only thing that provokes hostilty is calling an entire race dog c*nts and for them to starve. And Your "connection" with greece (whatever the fuck that means) doesnt magically undo his blatant hate speech. Sorry mate. Reality doesnt work that way.

And pls explain to me becaise im clearly fucking stupid, how do you think its NOT racist to csll an entire race dog c*nts? 

This is two pronged:

1)greeces economy is fucked, theyre bordering on collapse 
2)bethfc racist slander

Can you discern the fucking difference?

Re #1, Im not claiming to have the answers to their monumentally complex financial crisis am i, nor do i claim to be able to succinctly, in one sentence, pull an alleged magical solution out of my ass... and im not blaming someone else. Where did i do that? I simply pulled the blame away from every innocemt civilian man woman and child who is not a part of the rampant governmental corrpution that plagues that country... and defended the innocent parties. Sure they need reform. This is blatantly obvious to the most lobotimised observer. Again how did the intelligentsia of greece not come up with that one? FMD. And to think that odious deals and machinations w eu (foreign) arent part of reason then youre delusional beyond belief.

And To revist your question. Theres a lot of casual bigots here that need to stfu. 

Wasnt the zurich one an attack on a mosque though did they ever find who did it ?

Calling a whole country/government dog c#nts is a bit brainless. But as someone with a connection to greece i didnt think it racist 2 months ago or reading it now. Its obvious he is against the action of the people, not the people full stop.
It is also brainless if greeks think that it is all the fault of the EU and banks, and that their economy doesnt need to modernize. But that's democracy, the hard decisions arent popular, much easier to blame someone foreign.
Why does discussion about greece provoke such hostility here?
 

Aha Horto, how's it feel getting caught out being an over emotional millennial SJW?

You must write more to say less than any other poster since GloryPerth/Quickflick with the added bonus that you're a pathologically angry typer.

It's awesome and makes you fascinating to watch try express yourself.

Keep it up :)

Again, guy slanders an entire race, you defend him. I couldnt give a flying f@#$# what you think pal.

That was a lot of writing to say how much of a drop kick you are.

I don't agree with anything you wrote.

Mate stop using buzzwords that disconnect you from reality. Calling an entire race of people dog c*nts is inexcusable and can't be intellectualized away using stupid and meaningless catch phrases. He uses racial slurs - you label me a sjw... thats how sjws work. Youre a hypocrite.

The fact that youre refusing to condemn that racist bile spesks volumes about the kind of person you are. In tge other thread hes whinging about how the white man is down trodden, in this thread hes calling an entire race c*nts. He clearly has a fixation with racial persecution - going both ways....

Andd dont try and backpeddle now, skewing the facts and shifting the narrative..implying that bethfc was only refering to the greek govt as "DOG C*NTS". its pathetuc... he explicitly said:
"Greece: we democratically came to the decision that we don't want to repay all the money we borrowed off you"
Dog c*nts. Let them starve.""

Why would you put your own rep on the line to stamd by that kind of rhetoric. Its beyond me.

And re trigger warnings, i think ive made it abundantly clear that i can handle myself and dont need to go running to the mods to fight my battles for me.

Any place any time pal.

That's the problem with millennials. Over sensitive and overly emotional to the point where you can't have a discussion without them turning into a social justice warrior.
I read BETHFC post and I didn't find it racist. I see you had to rewrite what BETHFC actually wrote so it sounded racist but, that's probably how it sounded in your head.
If the Greek government decide not to meet their debt obligations, then they are a bunch of dog c*nts.
I feel that you are the type of person who would ask for a trigger warning.

Lol good one mate. The post just above you where this guy calls an entire race of people dog C*NTS doesnt qualify as the most condecending post of the year????? FMD You are a pathetic excuse for a human.

No the family metaphor is way off kilter and an insult to the innocent civilians living in austerity.. Its an oversimplification of a monumentally complex problem. Im not going to get ny further into a discussion with someone of your flippant attitude towards horrendous fuckig racism.

Most condecending post of the year indeed.

PS oh really i didnt realise the solution was so simple...fk i wonder why they didnt think of what you just said and magically pulled an entire country back from the brink of economic collapse.

Btw the way you didnt answer "how" anyway.... you just waffled about "Why".... dont even realise what youre posting...

Potential nominee for most condescending post of the year. "The question you should be asking is 'how' are they going to pay it back?" It's not a tough question to answer. Cut government spending and enforce your tax laws just like every other responsible government. The only reason Greece is facing economic ruin is because they haven't collected their taxes and they have continued spending.
 It sucks that they can no longer provide adequate health care or social security but if you don't have the money you don't have the choice.
And defaulting on their loans is probably the worst strategy the government could undertake. BethFC is right with the analogy about the family deciding not to pay back their mortgage. If you don't pay your mortgage, you lose your home and no one lends money to you again. If the government doesn't pay back their debts, they lose the ability to pay for anything and nobody lends to them again.

The question you should be asking is "how" are they going to pay it back?

If you have the answer to this question then pls place a call to the Mediterranean, theres a country teetering on complete economic ruin that could do with pearls of wisdom from leading minds like yourself.

Then again calling an entire race of people "Dog C*nts" might also do the trick too.

So fuck it right, they should just pay back nothing?

They should pay money back once they're back on their feet. That is what I'm arguing. I disagree with wiping away their debt completely.

No you retard, its like a corrupt govt took out that mortgage for you, jacked up the interest 30000000%, split with the cash, and left you holding the bag.

There is no money in that  country. Austerity wont do shit. They have nothing. 

Youre confusing corrupt governments making odious deals with eachother, with innocent bystanders/citizens living in austerity, with employment plummeting.., 

And please don't tell me youre going to start defending the EU now...

A realist. If you borrow money you pay it back. A vote to say 'we don't want to pay you back' means nothing.

It's like getting a mortgage and having a family vote to say no, screw you bank, we don't believe we should pay you back.

The real question is how stupid are you?

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