SM - Melbourne Knights - 8120
MelbourneH - MV - Will be 25,000+

If youre going to list some figures list them all! Flogs!

20,000 of those will be in blue. We pay for your club.

Bullshit.

On both counts. I take it that of the 40,000 that went to the first derby that 20,000 were Heart fans, given that you haven't had crowds over 20,000 since?

Edited by Adrian72: 11/12/2012 10:27:20 AM

Are we seriously talking about this again?

SM was not let into the A-League for a reason and that same reason will stop them from ever entering the A-League

Don't understand this debate. Surely it really should be a case of SMFC AND Heart both in the league. Swapping clubs helps no one. You lose more than you gain. Rather than SMFC trying to take Hearts spot, they should aim getting their club ready for proposals when Melbourne get the 3rd team.

Heart have a place in the league. This will grow over time. Same with WSW. The fact that the TV deal covers the salary cap means there is less of an emphasis on getting 10k averages for each club. The FFA really need to ensure that the 10 clubs that are currently in the league are there for the next 10 years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Soccer_League_2003%E2%80%9304#Home_and_away_season

I haven't read this thread, but not sure why it's gone for 10 pages.

The thing is, 4,500 isn't Heart's average. It's well below average.

Until our recent form slump, our crowds have been gradually edging up from year one. But this week we had a confluence of factors which led to a small crowd - poor form and ninth on the table, a number of players missing, playing a side that has had the wood on us, and weather that was forecast to be either 37 degrees or thunder and rain.

Every football club has variations in crowds according to form and other factors. Why are Heart not allowed the same variations?

If this crowd was normal, then worry. But it isn't. Win a few games, and the crowds will be growing again. The overall trend has been slow but steady growth.

We've had 40k against Sydney last season, and there weren't 20k in sky blue. Not to mention the number of other times we've got similar sized crowds. We pay for your club.

4505: Against Perth which usually is a decent draw card

Heart Out -> SMFC In

South will generate atleast 7k before 1 marketing dollar is even spent at its own stadium

I have said since day dot MH will never work


Edited by chris: 9/12/2012 02:59:13 PM

Oh you mean the game where Kewell and Emerton both made their A-League debut? Hrmmm...

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It's not just last weeks attendance that is at issue, mix it with the garbled Brand and Vision, or lack of, it becomes a volitile cocktail.

It's the Vibe.



Edited by Arthur: 11/12/2012 01:13:16 PM

Question: Would South Melbourne supporters be happy to be apart of the proposed Australian Premier League? Excuse my ignorance on the matter, but I believe I saw a demonstrations a year or so ago from South supporters against the new comp?

South Melbourne FC supports the recommendations of the FFA National Competition Review
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South Melbourne FC is supportive of the recent announcement made by Football Federation Australia (FFA) regarding the recommendations from the National Competition Review (NCR) and is looking forward to working with Football Federation Victoria to assist with a successful implementation of these changes in our state. The Australian Premier League (APL) is an important step to tie together and improve our code with the desired effect of developing youth and allowing clubs like ours to have the opportunity to again play at the highest national levels.

South Melbourne FC has a proud tradition of producing over 50 Socceroo players and was instrumental in the creation of the first truly national football competition in the late 1970s. Its success in Australian football was recognised when it received the prestigious award FIFA Oceania Confederation Club of the Century.

The Club has successfully implemented a youth development program, which has allowed South Melbourne FC to be at the forefront of youth development as our program very much follows what is contemplated in the National Competition Review.

The Board has appointed Tom Kalas (Current Joint Director of Youth Development) to work with all key stakeholders within the Club and Football Federation Victoria (FFV) to oversee the implementation of the recommendations from the National Competition Review at the Club.

Coupled with the redevelopment of Lakeside Stadium, its strong youth development, recent appointment of a full time General Manager and dynamic digital media team, South Melbourne FC is well positioned to take advantage of opportunities that lie ahead.

We had 40k at Docklands - regular season - before Heart existed.

Oh and just so you know, we no longer shoot the natives on sight anymore. Just in case you went back so far you got lost.

Victory were a success because they attracted an audience from the get go

That it was "created" with commercial benefits in mind.

I haven't read this thread, but not sure why it's gone for 10 pages.

Bullshit.

On both counts. I take it that of the 40,000 that went to the first derby that 20,000 were Heart fans, given that you haven't had crowds over 20,000 since?

Edited by Adrian72: 11/12/2012 10:27:20 AM

I've got no idea who that is sorry.

So, the burning question...who is this guy? :lol:

I think it is quite obvious Victory attendance outscored the Heart's 4 to 1 at each derby - anything else is dillusional

If South was the 2nd team - a true blue derby (pardon the punt) would be created - it would actually also generate more fans for the Victory which has not been the case since the Heart came in

Heart fans should follow smfc when we enter the HAL based on the reason they originally followed the Heart such as culture - philosophy - things that never eventuated at MH and never will

Edited by chris: 11/12/2012 05:41:17 PM

If South wants into the A-League, why have they never submitted a bid?