SO THE THREAD TITLE IS NOT: 4505 = Melbourne Heart out -> SMFC in?

Are you or are you not making a case to kick heart out and to put SMFC in based on crowds (yet to provide SMFC crowd figures to prove your case) ?
BACK YOUR ASS UP BITCH



Edited by GDeathe: 11/12/2012 11:13:47 PM

now do it for SMFC

In Fairness - the Wellington game should be capped at 7k due to the VPL GF for season 3 which would bring the average down to 6,092

Free tickets????____>>>>____????

Fucking hell.

So when South Melbourne was going through these halcyon days of 6 or 7,000 crowds, they:

*Had been around for how many years? 50?
*Had a natural support base - the Greek club in a city with lots of Greek immigrants,
*Had won championships and were playting finals.

While Heart have:
*existed for 2 and a bit years,
*Are building a supporter base from nothing,
*Haven't even played a home final yet,
*Are in a market that was catered for by one club prior to their existence.

Good luck to South Melbourne. But people are living in absolute fantasy land if they think they could get decent crowds in this league. Even with sustained finals appearances, why would anyone think they could do any better than before? Heart crowds show modest improvement over the time we've been around, and have much more potential for improvement. Wait until we actually start winning games at home.

Edited by Adrian72: 11/12/2012 11:20:17 PM

we are doing a MH v Victory comparison - for the 2nd time for crying out loud - what part do you not understand FMD LOL !!!

STILL YET TO PROVIDE ONE FUCKING SMFC CROWD AVERAGE

So we're just going to start making stuff up then?

WE should not compare HAL v NSL

Like comparing a Holden VK Commodore with a Holden Calais 2012 model

we are doing a MH v Victory comparison - for the 2nd time for crying out loud - what part do you not understand FMD LOL !!![/quote AND WHAT PART OF 4505 = Melbourne Heart out -> SMFC in DON'T YOU FUCKING UNDERSTAND... YOU'RE OWN FUCKING WORDS

Oz football has incomplete records in regards to attendances

I Honestly don't know what you are getting at - seriously - blackmissionary is the historian with these numbers - I am sure he will jump on and service your needs - at some stage I Hope - be patient

I think in 2003 or was it 2002 - smfc averaged over 8k in a busted comp

Why is there 13 pages devoted to this awful troll?? Come on, guys :roll:

Where is the troll - stop trying to shut down a very relevant argument

SXFC (smfc) and MH were direct competitors for the 2nd Melbourne Team - it is only natural that there will be a direct clash between the fans of both groups from time to time especially when the MH do not meet the legacy it set out to achieve

It is extremely relevant and generates a healthy debate between football fans - it stimulates competitive juices and is good for football

Yes G Deathe I am aware of the title

smfc could only dream of having the canvass to work on that the Heart are enjoying today - I for 1 cannot accept that a pure football bid like the Southern Cross bid was beaten by what I view as a dud - it is my opnion and I am sticking to it and clearly many other observers here agree with me - the data to back my views are on display everywhere compounded by last weeks poor tun out - I watched the game and it was a pathetic excuse for football

Yesterday the Herald Sun had a 2 page spread on the game and yet the people are not going to watch the Heart - something is clearly not working for them - they are not as attractive as some would like us to believe

Comparing it to smfc at NSL is silly - 2 different orbits alltogether

but smfc as it is today - its mission - its reach and its proposal is a much much more solid model that what the Heart can ever be - trying to typecast smfc as a mono ethnic club - one which is unable to produce a carriage for the masses will ultimately hurt the game on many levels

smfc will not only bring with it a legacy - but a current and a future - a model that will bring in the people - not just the segment that wants to have a souvlaki as you put it

Edited by chris: 11/12/2012 11:43:36 PM

Why is it you ethnics only come out when the crowds start dwindling? Where were you the first three rounds of this season? :-k

Calling me an ethnic only pushes me further away from the game

no other response except to say I have no ill feelings with the HAL - I understand why change was required and altyhough there are some components I don't agree with which I am sure many also share my views - I embrace change nonetheless

Explain said components that you dont agree on

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Lol, this is still going.

ive never been your biggest fan chris but youve got my support this time buddy. the heart experiment has been a failure and its kinda obvious the heart have no real fan base and has always been just an alternative the few victory fans that just wanted to try something different

if smfc were in the a-league their attendances would double that of the heart - not to mention they are a far more professionally run and organized club

And this everyone just proves that bitterness runs deep to some :lol:

Build a bridge and concentrate on your own club.

beautiful quote from"Southampton Till I Die on MVFC Forum.

Succinct and generally accepted view on MVFC Forum.

Would anyone expect anything else on a MV Forum. What an odd source of info to draw a conclusion :)

IN Season two Melbourne Victory averaged 27,728 per game.

In 2011/12 season Melbourne Victory's average without the Derby 19,134(229,607@12games) and Heart's without the Derby is 6180 (74,216@12games).

Is Melbourne Heart driving the game backwards?

If Heart's only job is to be in the A-League and piss off all the SMFC supporters, then it looks like they're doing a good job.

More like its a SMFC supporters duty to annoy Heart Supporters. :d

Besides were not annoyed just keeping ourselves amused.:roll:

Heart are an abomination. But that's not an argument to replace them with a club that struggles to get people to its VPL fixtures.

The above view on Heart from the MV forum is accurate. Everything about Heart is simply about being the antithesis to Victory. No real movement existed for a new club to be created, other than the boardroom desires of people like Sidwell.

There is no directly comparable data. Put SMFC in the A-League and have them play the same opposition, the same derbies, and with the same media coverage, then I could put up the data you desire.

Again, I'm on the fence here - I want South in the A-League but I have no desire to see any A-League franchise fail.