At least its a "competition"

And it's about to be won by the FFA's very own team, formed only 5 minutes ago, hmmmm...

It's certainly not helping our cause in the eyes of the AFC.

Just heard that the Giants have just ticked over their 7,000th membership today for the 2013 season, well on the way to matching last year's figure of 10,241.

http://membership.gwsgiants.com.au/

The Suns have also reached 7,000 members for the 2013 season (both are in a battle to be the first to reach 10,000 members this year as a bet between the respective coaches).

They are small numbers by AFL standards, but it's a start.

Actually pips I heard on sen that shreds tweeted that its 6k members .also heard k.b and patrick smith saying the AFL wasted 200 mil on gws and can't get the pasionate support that wsw have got in 3 months whilst the gws have been there longer

Meanwhile with 4 more home games to go in the season WSW are already 8k ahead of the total attendance GWS drew to its games in western Sydney last season.

The AFL might end up wasting $200 million, but they haven't wasted it yet because they haven't spent it yet - that's their budget to fund the two new teams over the course of a decade.

One could argue that the extra game per round created by the two teams has already generated more than enough revenue to cover the investment plus interest - so their argument is already lost before we've even begun.

KB is a top bloke, Smith is a self-acknowledged ratbag (nothing wrong with that, we need ratbags), but you wouldn't entrust either to look after a $billion industry.

Patrick smith is a mong . For someone who is a essendon supporter her sure did write and talk b.s a lot of time .

That might be right, GWS only played 8 home games in Western Sydney, for the following attendances:

Rd 1 Homebush, vs Swans: 38,203
Rd 3 Blacktown, vs Eagles: 6,875
Rd 9 Showgrounds, vs Bombers: 11,887
Rd 12 Showgrounds, vs Tiges: 7,538
Rd 16, Showgrounds, vs Crows: 7,669
Rd 18, Showgrounds, vs Pies: 8,102
Rd 19, Showgrounds, vs Port: 6,811 (only home win)
Rd 23, Showgrounds, vs North: 6,696

Total: 93,781

Are WSW's home attendances already over 93,781?

Well done to them.

102,141 so far in 9 games with crowds varying between 6,775 and 19,126. Its a good start up season for the Sydney market and they sit 5th in the League for attendances.

this afl vs a league is just bullshit imo.
gws has been a failure so far in relation to crowds, but as long as the afl has money it will stay here even if they draw 5k to every match.
i havnt noticed many gws jerseys around, granted it is off season. while wsw jerseys are either sold out or whatever shopping complex you go to you see people wearing them.
wsw have a less budget and thus relies on crowds more. (which is great imo as it gives us more say).
we play during different seasons, so arnt in direct competition.
wsw are drawing new sponsers to the club, if the rumours are true primo will be leaving ccm and sponsering wsw.
i will say this though, afl are very lucky that the ffa took their sweet ass time in establishing a club in western sydney. not due to the fact that this would have has a massive impact on their crowds, but the media spotlight was on them alot.

It's more like 60,000 when you take away the 32,000 Swans fans who showed up at the first :lol: derby...

Poor Mr VFL, he cannot comprehend a competition where the winner is determined on the field, so he assumes that real sports are as corrupt as the VFL.

The most famous AFL team in the world playing in Sydney, 8,102 is quite poor really, imagine WSW playing Real Madrid or Man U, what crowds would they get?

If the A-league all stars is anything to go by, they could put the wings back on Stadium Australia and it still wouldn't be enough.

who bloody started this thread anyway....:roll:

There are treatments available to improve memory. ;)

Good.

Is that with the same 700% mark up that the VFL put to their figures, as in the Balmain Dockers fiasco?

90% percent are kids who took part in an Auskick display at their school, 5% are people who mistakenly gave their email address to a VFL missionary, 3% are in Canberra, 1% are the mentally ill, 0.5% are the players families. That leaves 5 people who actually purchased a GWS membership.

What also is good is that Wanderers and Sydney FC combined attendance will take football about 50-60k above AFL in Sydney and comfortably claim #2 spot in Sydney.

For $2.50 a month you can get your pet a membership to GWS

http://membership.gwsgiants.com.au/packages/2013-mini-giants-and-pet-membership/22

Or for $2.50 a month you can help fabricate the membership total of GWS by buying your 0-3 year old a membership

http://membership.gwsgiants.com.au/packages/2013-mini-giants-and-pet-membership/22

or from $2.50 a month you can count yourself as a member and you don't even have to sit through a game, besides you won't be allowed to attend with this membership.

http://membership.gwsgiants.com.au/packages/2013-non-access-and-victorian-membership/20

or from $12 a week you can buy a MCG membership package, you don't even need to support the club and GWS can use you to add to their membership tally.
http://membership.gwsgiants.com.au/packages/2013-non-access-and-victorian-membership/20

Coming soon, if you shop at Aldi, you can count yourself as a GWS member


You can't compare A-league Memberships to AFL Memberships they are not even remotely similar






Edited by clinton: 14/1/2013 08:56:25 PM

Yep one thing the AFL is good at is milking every last dollar they can and inflating those membership numbers. At North Melbourne for $25 you get access to 1 game and a membership pack.

If the AFL and all sports for that matter were serious on membership numbers then they would give us a breakdown of each category, but they do not. I think only Newcastle and Victory put their membership numbers out there in A-League land. Some AFL clubs even combine membership and gate takings so you cannot work out the average member amount paid.

I think a better yearly comparison would be to show the total membership income divided by total membership number to give a average member dollar amount. It is one thing to grow numbers but if the average sale price is not increasing then you are not really growing. I guess they hope to upgrade them to a higher membership package in future.

Having said that I still think the A-League could offer more flexible membership options.

Corruption? There is no sport on Earth more corrupt than soccer, and that includes the top leagues such as in Italy and Germany, and pretty much every league in our confederation.

As for winning on the field? Do you count SFC and Roar winning the Championship via penalties? I guess they were on the field - sort of.

On that point I agree.

You really can't compare AFL memberships to other sports in Australia - it's at a completely different level.

The AFL's 700,000 memberships would be double the total of memberships of all other football codes combined.

Terrific response from a member of the The RBB faction to a suggestion that The RBB form an alliance with Parramatta Eels & provide active support during the NRL season ...

GOLD

MV have offered 5 game memberhsips since season 1 - are they the only ones to have done so?

Only a couple of weeks ago I saw ads on Fox for 4 game WSW memberships.

So the flexible packages are already being offered.

People shouldn't be overly concerned about what AFL clubs are making out of their memberships.

Collingwood sold around 71k memberships for total membership revenue of $16.3 million last season.

Any soccer fan out there going to knock back their club making $16+ million in membership sales?

NONSENSE!

I've been a Season Ticket Holder at MVFC since 2006/07. The ONLY time we had 5-game membership was last season when we sold out of AAMI Park memberships, the club sold a special "season ticket for Docklands" games only.

The only other limited membership is a Tassie membership (need to provide a Tassie postal address) & overseas membership (need to provide an o/s postal address & o/s passport evidence).

Many GWS foundation memberships would've been members who signed up as soon as the club was born, well before they played their first game. The Gold Coast Suns also did this and their membership prices at the time were ridiculously low at $50-$100 which is dirt cheap. And I'm sure most of these people would've resigned again for their second season, also for a very cheap price. If the Suns used this strategy, with heaps of Victorians living up on the Gold Coast and being a great holiday destination, I'm sure the AFL would've done the same at GWS. While its great for GWS to get 10k members, I'm sure they're not all appropriately priced memberships. Not 100% sure on the WSW member count at the moment, but 7000 members at WSW would bring more membership dollars than the 10k at GWS. Pretty certain that the cheapest membership at the Wanderers was $195 for the season (someone correct me if im wrong). Figures can be deceiving, they don't always tell the full story. The AFL are very good at that.
Having said that, I do agree that A-league membership packages should be more flexible, and I hope that improves in future at all clubs.

Quote the whole post that includes details on AFL West Sydney's $2.50 a month puppy memberships and all the other "memberships" that have no purpose other than to inflate the "membership" number

If you compare Season Passes then WSW and every NRL club are far in front of AFL's GWS.

The reality is that AFL are the only sport that would call what they are selling Memberships, every other sport would just call them "hats" or "jersy's" or "Website Hits" or a carton of milk, AFL call them Memberships.

The frightening thing is that half the people on this site are probably members of AFL clubs and don't even know it.



Edited by clinton: 14/1/2013 11:37:03 PM

lol. So my civic video membership may not be a civic video membership..oh dear god