He's not wrong. But try telling that to all the people who drew false belief from his 'achievements'.

The only reason he's doing this is to protect his brand and the charity work he's done to save SOME kind of personal face.

In the end, I still respect what he achieved because he's right, he just levelled the playing field, and still dominated over everyone else.

And he at least had the humility to put a lot of what he won, and earned through his name, towards good causes. There are far worse people in the world.

He showed total contempt for it. When you're saying "I took the time to look up the definition of cheating at the time"...it's a joke.

It's not just about the achievement, it's about all the people he mislead. And then for him to basically say "If I hadn't made a comeback I'd never have been caught" is just as much of a farce as the rest of the events.

There's a sucker born every minute.......

lol levelling the playing field? IT'S AGAINST THE RULES.

:lol: Cadel Evans won in 86h 12′ 22″ in 2011.
From 2002-04 he wouldn't have finished in the top 10.

It wasn't a level playing field Lance enlisted the help of doctors and a team who had specialised doping knowledge and skills and its reasonable to assume his success was as much due to his doping methods rather than any natural ability.

Lying, bullying and cheating your way to hundreds and millions of dollars and giving a portion of that to charity doesn't give you "humility". That would be like robbing a bank and justifying it because you're giving some of it to "good causes" while spending the rest on mansions and Ferraris. Lance found himself in the privilidged position of being able to give back but he had to con and defraud his way to get there, and that undoes any merit in the good deeds he did. Lance is pure arrogance, only a morally weak person would sympathise with a charlatan like Lance.

To be fair, Robin Hood and John Dillinger are legends of folklore for that exact reason.

Edited by afromanGT: 18/1/2013 11:27:33 PM

For driving Ferraris or giving to the poor?

Wow, I wonder which one I could be talking about...

Still can't get my head around the fact that he lied for many years and hurt many people in the process.

My mistake. Clearly I should be as butt-hurt about this as you guys are. Tis a National Tragedy. Competitive person does everything he can to win. Meanwhile, On page 5: Ursine mammal admits to occasionally evacuting bowels in proximity to wooded areas.

Missing the point Funky, the entire sport is a disgrace and an embaressment, and Lance is a big part of that by his OWN admissions.

Hardly something to respect, it's not about being able to "deal with it", I can deal with it, but i'm not going to respect someone who cheated for his entire career, lied about cheating his entire career, sued anyone who dared to suggest he was a cheat, bullied and intimidated dissenting views within his own team, the list goes on

But yep, he's a guy worthy of respect! Please...

Are you telling me you only respect people with the purest intentions, with pure hearts, who never lie or cheat ever?

Coz I got news for you buddy...

No, but at the same time I do not respect people who, in their own words, created a mythical legend of himself which he used to make himself incredibly rich, yes he helped people out too, but lets not forget how rich he made HIMSELF too, all off the back of a total fraud and lie.

I didn't respect Christopher Skase either, by the way

I'm going to remind you of this post every time you stick the boot in to Liverpool fans in WF for supporting Suarez. Along with all the people who quoted and "+1"-ed you along the way.

Edited by afromanGT: 19/1/2013 01:27:48 AM

oh and incidently, I do have the utmost respect for the (few) guys during that era of the sport that had the sportsmanship and morality to ride clean. What about those guys?

I'm glad that finally we get to see Armstrong confessing. It's about time america admitted they never made it to the moon.

My lack of respect for Suarez doesn't come from the fact that he dives, everyone does. The cunt bit someone for fucks sake.

Here's a picture of them:




























Edited by Funky Munky: 19/1/2013 01:29:45 AM

Even Armstrong admit's that there were some who rode clean, he even referred to them as hero's.

Have you even watched his interview, or are you just running off your own pre-conceived idea's on the issue?

Oh, so now his word is law :lol:

My respect for Cadel Evans and his achievements have never been higher.

I was always a supporter of Armstrong. I have no respect for him now given a decade of actions. His charitable work counts for something and if he inspired people through cancer then I guess he deserves respect for that.

And Lance Armstrong lied under oath... Obviously he's a much better person.

One is human nature, the other is sub human.

:lol: The only reason he's admitted all this to Oprah is to save face for his charity so it isn't totally destroyed by his actions as well.

Yeah, it's completely in human nature to have anabolic steroids, EPO and blood transfusions coursing through your veins...

He only won 1 tour but as far as we know he did it legally. He is also closer to the heart being Australian.

One is a spur of the moment, highly emotional outburst

The other is a well considered course of action over the course of basically his entire adult life to date.

Yes, but i'm saying his charity has helped people. Respect on merit for that and that alone.