People care because they socially feel they have to care. All people to donate $20 to bring all 300 over here for a better life and see how many FB warriors go quiet.

I do love how people share pages on FB and pretend to care about everything to make themselves look good. Kony 2012 was an example, that went well didn't it? :lol:

People care Because of biological empathy.

The deathtoll of the massacre has just gone upto 310 with people with people being burned alive.

It's about time the international community and Nigeria have finally woken up, unfortunately there are similar things happening all over Africa, which get very little coverage, like Sudan/South Sudan and CAR.

UK, US, China and France sending help to find the missing girls.

Absolutely, both countries are on the verge of civil war and famine and most of the western world wouldn't have a clue. They are the ones who need help not Nigeria, if they so desired they have the resources to solve the problem themselves.

South Sudan and CAR have nothing.

I only realised when there was a push from some U.S. senators for something to be done about South Sudan, IIRC over a million people displaced with thousands dead, and I hadn't the slightest clue, and I doubt many people do.

Trying to find the senator who even crticised the media for their lack of coverage.

Edited by iridium1010: 8/5/2014 09:47:41 PM

Why should the West continually keep getting dragged into prolonged engagements for no gain whatsoever? Just like Syria, going into these African nations would be a massive mistake and would accomplish nothing (except the deaths of a few thousand NATO soldiers).

That's a good question. I guess it's very easy to live in our own little bubble and it's very easy to forget that we all live on this planet with 192 other countries of varying wealth and stability.

It seems the majority of us care more about Kim Kardashian then hundreds of thousands of some of the poorest people in the world slaughtering each other.

Isolationism Oops!

speak for yourself

We have no moral responsibility for these nations. They should deal with their own shit.



Sending young men to die in a war they have no part in :oops:

Edited by 433: 8/5/2014 10:58:15 PM

That's the point of a volunteer army. There is no coercion implicit in the act.

Are you suggesting that a human rights violation is somehow less objectionable for occurring overseas?

speak for yourself

We have no moral responsibility for these nations. They should deal with their own shit.



Sending young men to die in a war they have no part in :oops:

Edited by 433: 8/5/2014 10:58:15 PM

Kim Kardashian is pretty hot though...

speak for yourself

We have no moral responsibility for these nations. They should deal with their own shit.

That's a good question. I guess it's very easy to live in our own little bubble and it's very easy to forget that we all live on this planet with 192 other countries of varying wealth and stability.

It seems the majority of us care more about Kim Kardashian then hundreds of thousands of some of the poorest people in the world slaughtering each other.

Except for when half the problems in these underdeveloped countries is actually partly the doing of the West. Going in to these countries and allowing things like blood diamonds to thrive is of more benefit as it means they get the resources for a much cheaper price.

Also, show no apparent interest in solving peace in a country that is willing to let you indulge in blood diamonds or has no strong enough government to implement any proper form of democracy, yet invade countries such as Afghanistan or Iraq for no apparent reason, except Oil which was not yours.

Bullshit. There's oil in Nigeria.

African nations being essentially run by warlords make installing a puppet state government and "democracy" near impossible in many african nations.

France intervened in Mali and were criticized. The west has intervened in Somalia and other nations in the past and been criticized. No matter what the west does they're going to be criticized.

Yes but who are the ones criticizing? It's not the people in those countries who don't have enough to eat and live under the constant threat of having their heads chopped off, it's the average joe in American sitting in his leather couch in his 4 bedroom house watching his 60 inch television believing every word the tv tells him.

Like I said on the other page, what's the point of having one of the best military's in the world if we aren't going to use it in combat situations? The government is going to spend $12 billion on 58 new fighter jets, why the hell for? People join the military knowing the possibility of dying in higher then in other professions so people shouldn't be so surprised and outraged when someone does die in combat.

I agree entirely with all of that. My point was that no matter what they do they'll be criticized by someone. And in africa the number of crazies in the local populace seems to be higher due to an apparent cultural requirement of "kill or be killed".

A Saudi Arabian court has sentenced the editor of a website that discussed religion in the ultra-conservative Islamic kingdom to 10 years in jail and 1,000 lashes.

Raif Badawi, who started the "Free Saudi Liberals" website, was arrested in June 2012 and charged with cyber-crime and disobeying his father - a crime in the Arab state, local media has reported.

His website included articles that were critical of senior religious figures such as Saudi Arabia's Grand Mufti and allegedly insulted Islam and religious authorities, according to Human Rights Watch.

Prosecutors had demanded Badawi be tried for apostasy, a charge which carries the death penalty, but this was dismissed by the judge.

Badawi was originally sentenced to seven years in prison and 600 lashes in July last year, but an appeals court overturned the sentence and ordered a retrial - which then earned him a more severe sentence.

His punishment comes shortly after Saudi Arabia criticised Norway's human rights record and accused it of not doing enough to counter criticism of the prophet Mohammed.

The gulf state also demanded all criticism of religion and of the Prophet Mohammed be made illegal in Norway.

Badawi's lawyer, human rights activist Waleed Abu al-Khair, will not be able to represent him in an appeal because he has also been jailed and is currently awaiting trial on criminal charges that include “breaking allegiance with the king,” and “making international organisations hostile to the kingdom".

His retrial led the judge to impose a harsher punishment and fine him one million riyals (£157,000).

In April, the Kingdom introduced a series of new laws which define atheists as terrorists, according to HRW.

In a string of royal decrees and an overarching new piece of legislation to deal with terrorism generally, the Saudi King Abdullah has clamped down on all forms of political dissent and protests that could "harm public order".

Saudi Arabia also announced in March it intended to close the local office of the Qatari-owned al Jazeera satellite television over Qatar’s backing for the Muslim Brotherhood, local media said.

Saudi Arabia orders 1,000 lashes and ten-year sentence for editor of website that discussed religion - Middle East - World - The Independent

In April, the Kingdom introduced a series of new laws which define atheists as terrorists, according to HRW.

That's true, In some countries there seems to be a never ending spiral of violence and at some point, I'd like to see the west say "enough is enough" I don't think we should just sit back and and allow it to happen because "it's just what happens in Africa"

And we can't say that violence and war overseas doesn't affect us. The perfect example is the boat people among other things. They aren't civilians from peaceful countries that's for sure.