At the same time, religious people in Australia make up a huge percentage of the educated work force :-k

Labour v Liberal is just another way of saying "party who supports industrial corporations v party who supports fiscal corporations".

I think that right wing thinking is often associated with religious connotations (eg. Republicans) and subsequently derided by academics.

I love being politically educated by 442ers. Continue.

;)

We were all thinking it... Glad someone had the balls to say it ;)

Bogans like labour because they are too lazy to work and love to claim benefits?

:lol:

I may be at Uni, but 90% I support the Right-ish. :lol:

No. Actually, I can be quite liberal about some things and very conservative on others. Thus my swinging vote and support.

But certainly not afraid of change, I'm just afraid of mistakes that we cannot easily fix.

Afraid of change?

Cos higher education right now pushes left thinking so hard right now, it's ridiculous.

I'm a conservative thinker, but a swinging voter if that provides any perspective,

Because it's about formal equality, the rule of law and shit like that. Legalism is conservative in its nature, "find law - apply law." You get taught about rights, common law or otherwise, parliamentary sovereignty, but you don't reflect on the actual policy behind those rights (good, I think). The "politics of law," if you like, is conservative.

I wouldn't say that law is productive, but it does have practical consequences.

There's a lot of discussion as to how law is taught conservatively. There's this Harvard professor, Kennedy, who talked about it in the 70's. Kennedy article, "law as training for heirachy"

I had to learn this shit for one of our "leftie" theoretical courses, it was interesting and it's nice to have a theoretical course for a change but I do prefer the more practical stuff like contracts, torts or crim.

In the current climate, i agree on private charities....their traditional benefactors being so highly taxed. But i was asked about it in some mythical 'libertarian utopia' or somethin ;)

There is a good argument that charities can benefit from the innovation and efficiency of the private sector approach which would see more directed spending than the wasteful bureaucratic public sector.

Agree on the difference between academic fields...some do tend 'right' all depends on the field...the more productive, practical fields are probably also more 'right' leaning :p ...not that id count law as that 'productive'...the 'right' can be a little blinkered on the costs of red tape ...and liberty and the law.

Can you elaborate on this? I think I know why, but its a little simplistic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academia

It's hard to see how private charity would be the solution to welfare for the disabled.

Other then that, you're right to the extent that academics are in the field because they're not particularly in it for earning money. Having said that, there's a lot of right leaning academics out there including a number of law professors - indeed the very way law is taught is conservative in nature.

Which bit in my original post do u take issue with? :-k :d



In a "utopian libertarian future" or forget that just 'present', people dont need the government to look after them ...they are capable of looking after themselves. I mean really what sort of person needs to cede their responsibility to look after a disabled child to the govt...fend for themselves???...what a callous person u leftist, govt cultists are :oops:

So you're saying a disabled person would be no where without a govt disability scheme...how sad, really...

Edit:

And to expand further...any person with views along the lines of Rand, is generally Minarchist ...so still believes in some sort of safety net for people who need financial assistance to look after themselves or anyone else.

Additionally, in any libertarian society the govt tax take would be much lower so people keep more of their earnings...which leaves them in a better place to be self reliant. Also this leaves Private Charity in a far better position to also assist people with disabilities.

In our society too much falls to the govt, who are largely quite slothful and inefficient in caring for people who need it. The role of Private Charity has been sidelined which is a real tragedy of the govt led approach.


Edited by blacka: 3/5/2013 09:33:55 PM

The sad thing is that people from the Ayn Rand cult like you are completely serious with shit like this, it's hilarious. Here's hoping none of your children have disabilities in your utopian libertarian future - Though I do admit watching them fend for themselves would make me have a slight, yet amazing touch of schadenfreude to it.

What do you mean "by Academics" if you can explain whom you consider an academic i'll try to respond accordingly.

Because your only academic if youre left handed.

By not entering politics they avoid inevitable corruption. This allows them to form opinions based on facts and the good of society as opposed to chasing votes.

Because they are.

Well they do make up a higher proportion of academics depending on the field.

Also the tendency from many on the left is to gravitate toward safe, lazy, tenured positions where they can indoctrinate their underlings...so academia, unions, career politics...whereas those labelled 'right' are more inclined toward private enterprise, crony capitalism and/or entrepreneurism...which rules them out of academia largely.

The best academics are of the anarchist or libertarian leaning varieties of course :cool:

Looking forward to the 'enlightening' responses