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Iron Dome over Israel
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Looks like they've created a new one that uses lasers. Still not in action yet http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Beam
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afromanGT wrote:Well...being muslim kind of has everything to do with it, as that's their main point of difference from the Israeli's. No... it's more that the Israeli's kicked them out of their homes... PB wrote:Another thread that has been Afro-fied.
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Quote:Australia to send soldiers, boost police at MH17 crash site Australian soldiers will be deployed to assist an increasing team of Australian police officers investigating the downing of Flight MH17. Prime Minister Tony Abbott said details were being finalised to determine how many armed troops would be on the ground, as the number of Australian Federal Police deployed rose. Mr Abbott said a further 100 Australian Federal Police officers would fly to London today to join the 90 already in Europe to bolster Australia's contribution to a multi-national commitment to the MH17 investigation. The latest increase in officers brings the total to more than 200 Australian government officials working abroad to bring the remains of the dead home. It is the largest overseas mission by the AFP since the Bali bombings. "Our objective is that the remains can be recovered, that the investigation can go ahead and that justice can be done. That is the sole objective of the Australian government," he said from AFP headquarters today. "There are currently 90 Australian Federal Police personnel deployed to Europe to participate in the international police mission that is now being planned. "Ukraine has formally delegated to the Dutch leadership of all aspects of the investigation that is taking place. "Australia is close to finalising an agreement with Ukraine for the deployment of Australian police - some of whom will be armed. "A further 100 AFP will be leaving for Europe today." Mr Abbott held further talks with US president Barack Obama today, on securing access for investigators to the MH17 air crash site, as a multi-nation coalition of police officers has begun to take shape. In the telephone call this morning, Mr Obama thanked Mr Abbott for Australia's leadership and willingness to send both investigators and federal police into the Ukraine. They agreed on the need for a "full, unimpeded and transparent" international investigation and secure access to the site for investigators. A White House spokesman said the president had said the US would co-ordinate closely with Australia, including in the UN Security Council, as the issue progressed. Overnight, foreign minister Julie Bishop and her Dutch counterpart Frans Timmermans signed a memorandum of understanding with their Ukrainian counterpart Pavlo Klimkin which officially put the Netherlands in charge of the crash investigation. © ninemsn 2014 Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/national/2014/07/25/15/18/abbott-troops-to-be-deployed-to-ukraine#HPE3AHDZyoTMEWDp.99
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Why aren't the Netherlands putting troops on the ground instead of sending some all the way from Australia.
Hopefully the rebels cooperate when our troops are on the ground and don't draw us into the conflict.
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Roar #1 wrote:Why aren't the Netherlands putting troops on the ground instead of sending some all the way from Australia.
Hopefully the rebels cooperate when our troops are on the ground and don't draw us into the conflict. maybe because Russia is one of, if not their biggest trading partner you stupid warmonger why dont you enlist and join the fight you're just as bad as afro "why doesnt Germany invade Russia" dopes #-o Edited by ricecrackers: 25/7/2014 06:15:27 PM
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Roar #1
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ricecrackers wrote:Roar #1 wrote:Why aren't the Netherlands putting troops on the ground instead of sending some all the way from Australia.
Hopefully the rebels cooperate when our troops are on the ground and don't draw us into the conflict. maybe because Russia is one of, if not their biggest trading partner you stupid warmonger why dont you enlist and join the fight you're just as bad as afro "why doesnt Germany invade Russia" dopes #-o Edited by ricecrackers: 25/7/2014 06:15:27 PM They're not going there to fight, simply secure the crash site, why couldn't the Dutch do that ? Nothing to do with fighting or invading fucktard. :lol:
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Roar #1 wrote:ricecrackers wrote:Roar #1 wrote:Why aren't the Netherlands putting troops on the ground instead of sending some all the way from Australia.
Hopefully the rebels cooperate when our troops are on the ground and don't draw us into the conflict. maybe because Russia is one of, if not their biggest trading partner you stupid warmonger why dont you enlist and join the fight you're just as bad as afro "why doesnt Germany invade Russia" dopes #-o Edited by ricecrackers: 25/7/2014 06:15:27 PM They're not going there to fight, simply secure the crash site, why couldn't the Dutch do that ? Nothing to do with fighting or invading fucktard. :lol: you're so stupid and naive there's nothing left to secure. bodies have been removed, the black boxes have been removed obvious it was shot down, someone is just looking for an excuse to put US backed troops in the region you asked the question, i gave you the answer. its entirely political. only a moron couldnt see that. Edited by ricecrackers: 25/7/2014 07:56:20 PM
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ricecrackers wrote:Roar #1 wrote:ricecrackers wrote:Roar #1 wrote:Why aren't the Netherlands putting troops on the ground instead of sending some all the way from Australia.
Hopefully the rebels cooperate when our troops are on the ground and don't draw us into the conflict. maybe because Russia is one of, if not their biggest trading partner you stupid warmonger why dont you enlist and join the fight you're just as bad as afro "why doesnt Germany invade Russia" dopes #-o Edited by ricecrackers: 25/7/2014 06:15:27 PM They're not going there to fight, simply secure the crash site, why couldn't the Dutch do that ? Nothing to do with fighting or invading fucktard. :lol: you're so stupid and naive there's nothing left to secure . bodies have been removed, the black boxes have been removed obvious it was shot down, someone is just looking for an excuse to put US backed troops in the region you asked the question, i gave you the answer. its entirely political. only a moron couldnt see that. Edited by ricecrackers: 25/7/2014 07:56:20 PM Not all of them, More were only discovered today And Its gone past being political and its now about showing respect to the families of the innocent victims. That is why authority has been handed over to the Netherlands. And what are you talking about with US troops, Why would they send them in ?
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Roar #1 wrote:ricecrackers wrote:Roar #1 wrote:ricecrackers wrote:Roar #1 wrote:Why aren't the Netherlands putting troops on the ground instead of sending some all the way from Australia.
Hopefully the rebels cooperate when our troops are on the ground and don't draw us into the conflict. maybe because Russia is one of, if not their biggest trading partner you stupid warmonger why dont you enlist and join the fight you're just as bad as afro "why doesnt Germany invade Russia" dopes #-o Edited by ricecrackers: 25/7/2014 06:15:27 PM They're not going there to fight, simply secure the crash site, why couldn't the Dutch do that ? Nothing to do with fighting or invading fucktard. :lol: you're so stupid and naive there's nothing left to secure . bodies have been removed, the black boxes have been removed obvious it was shot down, someone is just looking for an excuse to put US backed troops in the region you asked the question, i gave you the answer. its entirely political. only a moron couldnt see that. Edited by ricecrackers: 25/7/2014 07:56:20 PM Not all of them, More were only discovered today And Its gone past being political and its now about showing respect to the families of the innocent victims. That is why authority has been handed over to the Netherlands. And what are you talking about with US troops, Why would they send them in ? ADF are proxies for US interests they do everything they ask
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ricecrackers wrote:Roar #1 wrote:ricecrackers wrote:Roar #1 wrote:ricecrackers wrote:Roar #1 wrote:Why aren't the Netherlands putting troops on the ground instead of sending some all the way from Australia.
Hopefully the rebels cooperate when our troops are on the ground and don't draw us into the conflict. maybe because Russia is one of, if not their biggest trading partner you stupid warmonger why dont you enlist and join the fight you're just as bad as afro "why doesnt Germany invade Russia" dopes #-o Edited by ricecrackers: 25/7/2014 06:15:27 PM They're not going there to fight, simply secure the crash site, why couldn't the Dutch do that ? Nothing to do with fighting or invading fucktard. :lol: you're so stupid and naive there's nothing left to secure . bodies have been removed, the black boxes have been removed obvious it was shot down, someone is just looking for an excuse to put US backed troops in the region you asked the question, i gave you the answer. its entirely political. only a moron couldnt see that. Edited by ricecrackers: 25/7/2014 07:56:20 PM Not all of them, More were only discovered today And Its gone past being political and its now about showing respect to the families of the innocent victims. That is why authority has been handed over to the Netherlands. And what are you talking about with US troops, Why would they send them in ? ADF are proxies for US interests they do everything they ask :lol: Right so how would ADF on the ground benefit America?
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Roar #1 wrote:ricecrackers wrote:Roar #1 wrote:ricecrackers wrote:Roar #1 wrote:ricecrackers wrote:Roar #1 wrote:Why aren't the Netherlands putting troops on the ground instead of sending some all the way from Australia.
Hopefully the rebels cooperate when our troops are on the ground and don't draw us into the conflict. maybe because Russia is one of, if not their biggest trading partner you stupid warmonger why dont you enlist and join the fight you're just as bad as afro "why doesnt Germany invade Russia" dopes #-o Edited by ricecrackers: 25/7/2014 06:15:27 PM They're not going there to fight, simply secure the crash site, why couldn't the Dutch do that ? Nothing to do with fighting or invading fucktard. :lol: you're so stupid and naive there's nothing left to secure . bodies have been removed, the black boxes have been removed obvious it was shot down, someone is just looking for an excuse to put US backed troops in the region you asked the question, i gave you the answer. its entirely political. only a moron couldnt see that. Edited by ricecrackers: 25/7/2014 07:56:20 PM Not all of them, More were only discovered today And Its gone past being political and its now about showing respect to the families of the innocent victims. That is why authority has been handed over to the Netherlands. And what are you talking about with US troops, Why would they send them in ? ADF are proxies for US interests they do everything they ask :lol: Right so how would ADF on the ground benefit America? America is trying to squeeze Russia by any means possible the EU arent really interested as they're tied into Russia via energy trade Australia will do as the US wish and would be seen as a softer option than putting US troops on the ground
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So how would ADF on the ground retrieving personal items and plane wreckage "squeeze" Russia or benefit America?
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Roar #1 wrote:So how would ADF on the ground retrieving personal items and plane wreckage "squeeze" Russia or benefit America? the crash site is in enemy territory its controlled by separatists so they could gather intel the ADF arent there to squeeze Russia. the entire media narrative surrounding the downing of MH17 is an attempt to squeeze Russia. it would be politically incorrect for any EU forces to put troops on the ground there and US troops would be seen as hostile and viewed in questionable terms domestically in the USA not that i think putting ADF there is a good idea. i think its fraught with danger.
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ricecrackers wrote:Roar #1 wrote:So how would ADF on the ground retrieving personal items and plane wreckage "squeeze" Russia or benefit America? the crash site is in enemy territory its controlled by separatists so they could gather intel the ADF arent there to squeeze Russia. the entire media narrative surrounding the downing of MH17 is an attempt to squeeze Russia. it would be politically incorrect for any EU forces to put troops on the ground there and US troops would be seen as hostile and viewed in questionable terms domestically in the USA n ot that i think putting ADF there is a good idea. i think its fraught with danger. Yes I agree with that, All it takes is one even crazier rebel to confront the ADF and all hell could break loose. But anyway im not sure ADF will actually hit the ground. Hopefully the wont be needed. But anyway why are you mentioning US troops, America has nothing to do with this. And what media narrative, they are simply telling the story of what happened, Although not directly or intentionally, Russia have brought the scrutiny against themselves.
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Roar #1 wrote:ricecrackers wrote:Roar #1 wrote:So how would ADF on the ground retrieving personal items and plane wreckage "squeeze" Russia or benefit America? the crash site is in enemy territory its controlled by separatists so they could gather intel the ADF arent there to squeeze Russia. the entire media narrative surrounding the downing of MH17 is an attempt to squeeze Russia. it would be politically incorrect for any EU forces to put troops on the ground there and US troops would be seen as hostile and viewed in questionable terms domestically in the USA n ot that i think putting ADF there is a good idea. i think its fraught with danger. Yes I agree with that, All it takes is one even crazier rebel to confront the ADF and all hell could break loose. But anyway im not sure ADF will actually hit the ground. Hopefully the wont be needed. But anyway why are you mentioning US troops, America has nothing to do with this. And what media narrative, they are simply telling the story of what happened, Although not directly or intentionally, Russia have brought the scrutiny against themselves. America has everything to do with this they guided the Ukraine revolution and the government that followed. they are backing the west Ukrainians in the war against the separatists and they are deliberately squeezing Russia to break their energy monopoly on Europe. without America, the revolution would not have happened and the subsequent war that lead to the airliner tragedy would not have happened. furthermore the investigation of the shootdown hadnt even commenced yet the US directly blamed Putin.
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How would America benefit from breaking Russia's energy monopoly ?
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Roar #1 wrote:How would America benefit from breaking Russia's energy monopoly ? by entering the market themselves as well as assisting their middle eastern and caucus partners in providing transportation of energy to Europe (eg Qatar, Israel, Kurdistan, Azerbaijan) by fracking Ukraine and Romania for shale gas by breaking Russia's economy and maintaining their dollar dominance in the face of the emerging BRIC currency
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: -PB
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ricecrackers wrote:Roar #1 wrote:How would America benefit from breaking Russia's energy monopoly ? by entering the market themselves as well as assisting their middle eastern and caucus partners in providing transportation of energy to Europe (eg Qatar, Israel, Kurdistan, Azerbaijan) by fracking Ukraine and Romania for shale gas by breaking Russia's economy and maintaining their dollar dominance in the face of the emerging BRIC currency Why would America want to go to battle with Russia to help the likes of Qatar and Azerbaijan?
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Roar #1 wrote:ricecrackers wrote:Roar #1 wrote:How would America benefit from breaking Russia's energy monopoly ? by entering the market themselves as well as assisting their middle eastern and caucus partners in providing transportation of energy to Europe (eg Qatar, Israel, Kurdistan, Azerbaijan) by fracking Ukraine and Romania for shale gas by breaking Russia's economy and maintaining their dollar dominance in the face of the emerging BRIC currency Why would America want to go to battle with Russia to help the likes of Qatar and Azerbaijan? they dont want to go to battle with them some of the neocons would prefer the use of military force to achieve these objectives, however majority of USA government certainly dont want more war even though it is profitable for many enterprises that deal in arms sales and construction. they're not trying to help those countries, they're partners. they're corporate partners. many of those in government have corporate interests in US companies that stand to profit from transportation and development of energy resources in and from those countries. this isnt about nations, this is about corporations.
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(i do recognise what you're attempting to do here but i'll continue to play along until i'm bored)
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ricecrackers wrote:(i do recognise what you're attempting to do here but i'll continue to play along until i'm bored) :lol: What am I doing ? I am honestly just asking you to elaborate on an explanation I haven't heard before. And you have done that.
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Roar #1 wrote:ricecrackers wrote:(i do recognise what you're attempting to do here but i'll continue to play along until i'm bored) :lol: What am I doing ? I am honestly just asking you to elaborate on an explanation I haven't heard before. And you have done that. ok
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Roar #1 wrote:What am I doing ? You should ask yourself this question more often.
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notorganic wrote:Roar #1 wrote:What am I doing ? You should ask yourself this question more often. I do and I normally have the same reaction as the guy in your sig
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Iraqi President just appointed a new pm, this happens after a military build up in Baghdad of troops apparently loyal to Maliki..
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Iridium1010 wrote:Iraqi President just appointed a new pm, this happens after a military build up in Baghdad of troops apparently loyal to Maliki.. who is their new PM?
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Some current Wikipedia maps, they're generally pretty accurate. Libya  Yemen  Iraq  Syria  Ukraine
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