Once in court the whole matter will become a public issue

All will be revealed including the FFV's provocative position and the reason why they are determined to push their isolated version of the NPL


Once again the clubs reached out to the FFV to consult with the latest attempt lasting 9 and a half hours only to be met with a brick wall

enough games FFV - now its showtime

Edited by chris: 23/9/2013 10:39:47 AM

Thats interesting can you provide some more detail?

:lol: :lol:

NPL kicked off in NSW this season. Blacktown Spartans, Blacktown City, Sutherland, Manly = all broadbased. They must have been drawing THOUSANDS to their games, right?

No clubs pick players based on their ethnicity. This is 2013, not 1893.

Just had a look at that Bulleen, that's a great logo, Roar could learn something from that.

My issue is about identity and clubs that seem to pick players from a certain background, not who founded the club. People deserve to have a local club that has an identity that represents everyone and we shouldn't divide each other as Australians on ethnicity, especially on something that can get as heated as football. Why do we need sectarianism? We're all Australian, do we really want to try and imitate Glasgow?

I am not in favour of removing the clubs, they're obviously well established, I am in favour of the clubs changing themselves though and I feel that's for the greater good.

Some people seem to think that an ethnic club or ethnic is anyone or anything of non-Anglo australian born background, it's not that at all it's clubs with an ethnic identity and people who support an ethnic club. Who founded the club does not matter.

Not sure how true this article is though, they can still join the league they just don't want to and haven't whole leagues and councils boycotted it.




Edited by iridium1010: 23/9/2013 04:16:53 AM

Still waiting to hear why you believe fans would turn up to watch second tier football when they don't turn up to watch second tier rugby, Aussie rules, etc.

As for a lack of progress, I presume you skip over every article that mentions that these clubs support the NPL concept and want to bring in requirements for improved coaching, facilities, and youth pathways.

As for the broadbased thing... I'm very interested to know how a 'franchise' owned and run by Bulleen Lions/Veneto Social Club would be any less ethnic than the existing Bulleen Lions/Veneto Social Club side in State 1. Ditto for Nunawading, a club which would currently be regarded by the small minded as Greek, setting up an NPL franchise - how will the new entity be any less Greek?

I watched a game today at a Greek club. Lovely social atmosphere. Nothing threatening or unwelcoming. After the final whistle I was introduced to the guy who started the club up in 1966. Lovely man. He's watched the team earn their place in the VPL, and do a magnificent job of staying there this season... And under the FFV's model, he'll now see them relegated to a lower level of competition and replaced by an inferior team.

Yes, everyone jump on board a state league franchise. The next hottest thing.

Clubs now have correspondence from FIFA declaring that FIFA does not recognise the zonal system that the FFV is proposing - nor does FIFA support any structural changes from the FFV without the support of its member clubs

Paper work will be submitted to the CAS with a push for Supreme intervention

NPL will go ahead in Vic next season in alignment to what has been deployed interstate

if the FFV does not comply then the clubs will set up a new administraion to administar the game in Vic

I was at an important State League game on Saturday and this guy never stopped giving phone updates from the game. I was told the info was going towards betting consortiums. If true this is disturbing.

smfc would generate twice as many fans than the Heart on a like for like competition

1,500 fans today at a game vs Port Melbourne

yay 442's great spastic makes his return!

That quote sounds terrible, doesn't it?

Why introduce broader-based clubs in the VPL like the ones we have in the A-League and be successful?

Fuck that.

Let's stay unsuccessful like we have always been and have a couple hundred people watch our games on average ffs.

Better to stick with the clubs we have, the non-broader-based ones and continue on like we always have, with no prospect, no hope, no one coming to watch us play and no one giving a fuck about 2nd tier football in Victoria.

What a great solution that is.

Those of you scumbags who still want to fuck football in this country by attacking every concept that has to do with broad-based support of our sport at club level, ought to have a good look at yourselves, you bloody impostors.

Replace South Melbourne with Wadonga McDonalds FC. That will work wonders.

An ugly state: the Victorian game is struggling with scandal
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September 22, 2013
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Michael Lynch
Senior sports reporter with The Age

It's been the week from hell for those who run Victorian football - and a bad situation might become even worse.

The board and management of Football Federation Victoria have, for the past few months, been at loggerheads with the best known clubs in Melbourne over plans to scrap the Victorian Premier League and introduce a new, broader-based elite competition which, they say, will be more inclusive for the whole of the state.

That stoush has exposed a cultural and sporting gulf between the game's local administrators and its historic clubs, which has garnered plenty of unflattering headlines.

So the last thing the beleaguered body needed was the lurid revelations which broke last Sunday of match-fixing and skulduggery by a ring of international gamblers using corrupt players parachuted into a local VPL team, Southern Stars, to influence the outcome of a series of games.

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Such stories, including dramatic events such as police swoops, early morning raids, mass arrests and ''colourful'' gambling identities, are manna from heaven for the media.

Normally the only time the VPL attracts the attention of the mainstream press in such detail is when there is crowd trouble. Integrity issues are something else, however; somehow more damaging, as match fixing strikes at the very essence of any sport. If one team is trying, and one is not, what is the point - for the players involved and, more importantly, the paying customers?

It is quite surprising to find out people are betting on such matches.

The A-League is the domestic sport's showcase and there is plenty of betting activity on its five matches a week. But that competition is scrutinised, analysed and the subject of major television and media coverage, making anomalies, freak scorelines and surprise results the subject of much closer inquiry.

The VPL, along with its equivalents in other states, is a much lower-key affair.

Crowds are generally thin, and the standard of play, as you might expect, is below that of the elite competition although there are some promising youngsters involved, some of whom will get picked up by A-League teams.

While the average sports fan will have heard of Melbourne Victory and Melbourne Heart, he or she would probably not know whether Southern Stars are a Big Bash team, a netball outfit, a baseball squad or a horse that was going round at Caulfield on Saturday, never mind a football team. There is insufficient knowledge out there for a well-informed market to be formed, something that would, for this punter at least, raise alarm bells.

But in the digital age, where computer wagering algorithms can set up complex program trades, money can be directed around the world at the click of a finger, and unscrupulous individuals are happy to corrupt and destroy the basic values of sport for a quick kill, perhaps we should not be surprised. We live in a fiscally amoral society where ''rocket scientist'' traders brought us all manner of shonky ''products'' and questionable ethical strategies in pursuit of money-market profits, only to plunge the world into a financial crisis.

So the FFV has to wear the opprobrium for a scandal it doesn't really have the resources to investigate and police properly. For that it deserves some sympathy.

It is, however, in charge of its own destiny in the battle with its leading clubs over the future direction of the game in the state, and that is reaching an ugly point.

Amid mutterings from the clubs that the real agenda for establishing a new elite is to rid the top levels of teams with a traditional ethnic base, the issue this week went to mediation before a retired NSW Supreme Court judge. That was a failure, and now the situation is likely to escalate.

The clubs are set to take their case to the Magistrates Court on Monday to seek an order that the matter be heard as soon as possible in the Supreme Court of Victoria. Things can only get better. But first they will probably get worse for the FFV.

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