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Turkey opens first online Islamic sex shop ninemsn staff 5:21am October 22, 2013
An online Islamic sex shop selling condoms, massage oils and perfumes has been launched in Turkey, becoming the first of its kind in the predominantly Muslim country.
Turkey's first online Islamic sex shop The "Halal Sex Shop" website presents its products as being "entirely safe," and in compliance with Islamic norms. Internet users who enter the site find two different links directing them to separate sections for male and female products. Other sections of the website are designed to discuss sex in the context of Islam under various headings: "Oral sex according to Islam", "Sex manners in Islam" and "Sexual life in Islam." The anonymous founders of the website said they believed the online shop would help correct prejudices against Islam which they claimed is perceived as "against sex." "The religion of Islam has praised sex under certain circumstances," they wrote on the site. "The use of every product on sale is in compliance with Islam." Turkey does have so-called "erotic shops" in its streets, however Islamic conservative Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan suggested last year they rename themselves "love shops."
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This is going to work out...
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batfink
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wonder if they have blow up camel dolls???
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All I see this as is progression. The less fundies in this world the better.
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batfink wrote:wonder if they have blow up camel dolls??? Wow... just, wow.
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I go to university at a predominantly Muslim campus, and I can confirm that having sex and eating non-halal foods doesn't bother many of the younger generation too much.
The way I see it, is that the majority of young Muslim men (and women to an extent) in Australia interact with the Islamic tradition as more of a cultural thing rather than a personal faith which the practice daily. There will always be devout Muslims, but in Australia, the shift is certainly towards a 'cultural thing' rather than a strict religion.
Zim, your thoughts?
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Eastern Glory wrote:I go to university at a predominantly Muslim campus, and I can confirm that having sex and eating non-halal foods doesn't bother many of the younger generation too much.
The way I see it, is that the majority of young Muslim men (and women to an extent) in Australia interact with the Islamic tradition as more of a cultural thing rather than a personal faith which the practice daily. There will always be devout Muslims, but in Australia, the shift is certainly towards a 'cultural thing' rather than a strict religion.
Zim, your thoughts? I know for a fact that there is usually a taboo within Muslim culture, or rather a feeling of taboo, regarding sex and topics of said nature. You wont see many youngsters discussing the topic with elders and especially. There tends to be a feeling of it being a disrespectful or embarrassing topic to discuss. Sex is a natural thing and even in Islam, sex is part of life. Whilst sex before marriage is not allowed and sinful, sex after marriage is fine. Couples are encouraged to show love and compassion towards one another, of course within the rules of Islam. Things like Oral and Anal are not allowed, and also be respectful in public and those sort of things. I agree with you on the young muslims in Australia thing. Its not just an Australia thing, but it is common to see many Muslims by name, but not by nature, especially in Western societies. Its important to know that Islam is not a culture, therefore you can not claim to be a 'practicing' Muslim if you indulge in eating haram food, alcohol, indulge in haram habits etc etc. In saying that, indulging in those things does not mean you are no longer a Muslim. It just means you are not practicing Islam as you should be and people are encouraged to stop those habits, repent and practice Islam as it should be. There are certain things that are considered grave sins, such as sex out of marriage and especially with more than one partner. There are small number of sins that fall under such a category. It is believed that at the time of performing such a sin, you actually are not a muslim, so if you die at the time of doing that sin, you don't die as a muslim. Islam though teaches that if you do that sin, it does not mean that there is no hope for you. If you repent and change those habits then islam teaches that those sins could be wiped away. Islam teaches that you must fear punishment but also never doubt the mercy of your lord, and despair. I feel like I have digressed quite a bit, not sure why. But yeah. Any more questions, feel free. Edited by zimbos_05: 25/10/2013 08:15:38 PM
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Eastern Glory
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zimbos_05 wrote:Eastern Glory wrote:I go to university at a predominantly Muslim campus, and I can confirm that having sex and eating non-halal foods doesn't bother many of the younger generation too much.
The way I see it, is that the majority of young Muslim men (and women to an extent) in Australia interact with the Islamic tradition as more of a cultural thing rather than a personal faith which the practice daily. There will always be devout Muslims, but in Australia, the shift is certainly towards a 'cultural thing' rather than a strict religion.
Zim, your thoughts? I know for a fact that there is usually a taboo within Muslim culture, or rather a feeling of taboo, regarding sex and topics of said nature. You wont see many youngsters discussing the topic with elders and especially. There tends to be a feeling of it being a disrespectful or embarrassing topic to discuss. Sex is a natural thing and even in Islam, sex is part of life. Whilst sex before marriage is not allowed and sinful, sex after marriage is fine. Couples are encouraged to show love and compassion towards one another, of course within the rules of Islam. Things like Oral and Anal are not allowed, and also be respectful in public and those sort of things. I agree with you on the young muslims in Australia thing. Its not just an Australia thing, but it is common to see many Muslims by name, but not by nature, especially in Western societies. Its important to know that Islam is not a culture, therefore you can not claim to be a 'practicing' Muslim if you indulge in eating haram food, alcohol, indulge in haram habits etc etc. In saying that, indulging in those things does not mean you are no longer a Muslim. It just means you are not practicing Islam as you should be and people are encouraged to stop those habits, repent and practice Islam as it should be. There are certain things that are considered grave sins, such as sex out of marriage and especially with more than one partner. There are small number of sins that fall under such a category. It is believed that at the time of performing such a sin, you actually are not a muslim, so if you die at the time of doing that sin, you don't die as a muslim. Islam though teaches that if you do that sin, it does not mean that there is no hope for you. If you repent and change those habits then islam teaches that those sins could be wiped away. Islam teaches that you must fear punishment but also never doubt the mercy of your lord, and despair. I feel like I have digressed quite a bit, not sure why. But yeah. Any more questions, feel free. Edited by zimbos_05: 25/10/2013 08:15:38 PM Yeah, very similar to people claiming to be 'Christians', who in reality aren't converted and just use it as a bit if a label. Question on the never doubt mercy. How does that work when there is nothing you can do to secure Allah's mercy? I'm not overly versed in Muslim doctrine but I have a basic understanding, and that's something I was taught.
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Eastern Glory wrote:
Question on the never doubt mercy. How does that work when there is nothing you can do to secure Allah's mercy? I'm not overly versed in Muslim doctrine but I have a basic understanding, and that's something I was taught.
That's not true. There is plenty you can do to secure Allahs mercy. Allah says he loves the one who sins. That is not meant literally. If you sin, then after you do so you hopefully realise your error and make a pledge never to do that sin again. You then repent to Allah and pray for his mercy and forgiveness. You have to be sincere in not doing the sin again. If you sin knowing that you can later repent and don't pledge to change your ways, then it doesn't work that way. There are many ways to secure Allahs mercy, the simplest form is to read a small ayah. It can be read whenever and wherever you want. If you at work you can read it, on the bus, cooking. Obviously cant do it if you watching tv, in the toilet and certain other things. Its basically an Arabic ayah, "Astagfirullah" which means, "I seek forgiveness from allah". There are many others, but that is just one example and probably more relatable to the sin topic. There is a story. There was a man who had killed 99 monks. He went to another and asked him "Is there hope for me". The monk said, "No, you have killed too much". He killed that monk too. He then went to another scholar and asked him the same question. The scholar said, "Got to a certain city on the outskirts of Medinah/Makkah(I cant remember which one, one of the Arabian cities). On his journey he passed away. The angel of heaven angel of hell came to take his soul. Angel of heaven said he was going to take his soul because he was wanting to repent. Angel of hell said that because he killed so many. Then another Angel came down and said that he was instructed that to determine which angel would take him, measure the distance of the man from his departure city to his destination. It turned out he was closer to his destination and therefore went with the angel of heaven. The morale is that despite his transgressions, and as sever as they were. He had sincere conviction in his heart to change his ways. He intended to do so and set about on his journey to change his ways and seek repentance. Allah was merciful and therefore granted him Heaven. So whilst on the face of it, it may look bleak, if you have sincerity in your heart and conviction, you do not do the act again and make that effort and go about seeking the mercy and forgiveness of Allah, you will find that mercy.
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@zimbo is your heritage from the indian sub continent or are you a black Zimbabwean?
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Iridium1010 wrote:@zimbo is your heritage from the indian sub continent or are you a black Zimbabwean? Heritage is Indian. I am a third generation Zimbabwean.
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zimbos_05 wrote:Iridium1010 wrote:@zimbo is your heritage from the indian sub continent or are you a black Zimbabwean? Heritage is Indian. I am a third generation Zimbabwean. How many generations back does Islam feature in your family?
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Meanwhile, in other WTF????? 
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That'd actually be a pretty cool idea if that was the wrapper for the burger. But I get the feeling it's just some bizarre Japanese 'modesty'/'dignity' protector.
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notorganic wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:Iridium1010 wrote:@zimbo is your heritage from the indian sub continent or are you a black Zimbabwean? Heritage is Indian. I am a third generation Zimbabwean. How many generations back does Islam feature in your family? What? Since day 1. My ancestors and their ancestors and so on were all muslim.
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zimbos_05 wrote:notorganic wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:Iridium1010 wrote:@zimbo is your heritage from the indian sub continent or are you a black Zimbabwean? Heritage is Indian. I am a third generation Zimbabwean. How many generations back does Islam feature in your family? What? Since day 1. My ancestors and their ancestors and so on were all muslim. Which part of India do your ancestors originate from?
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zimbos_05 wrote:Iridium1010 wrote:@zimbo is your heritage from the indian sub continent or are you a black Zimbabwean? Heritage is Indian. I am a third generation Zimbabwean. Yes I was right! Coolies.
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notorganic wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:notorganic wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:Iridium1010 wrote:@zimbo is your heritage from the indian sub continent or are you a black Zimbabwean? Heritage is Indian. I am a third generation Zimbabwean. How many generations back does Islam feature in your family? What? Since day 1. My ancestors and their ancestors and so on were all muslim. Which part of India do your ancestors originate from? I can never get this right. My dads side is from the village of Harangam. My mums side is from the village of Tala. I know those are the villages, I just cant remember which is which. Now im pretty sure those villages are in the province of Gujarat.
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notorganic wrote:Meanwhile, in other WTF?????   that's a pretty good WTF?!?!!?
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