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The Guardian wrote:Muslim vigilantes jailed for 'sharia law' attacks in London Three members of 'Muslim Patrol' terrorised couple for holding hands, abused woman over her clothing and attacked drinkers
Sam Jones and agency The Guardian, Friday 6 December 2013 19.14 GMT
Three members of a self-styled "Muslim Patrol" vigilante group have been jailed for harassing, intimidating and assaulting people on the streets of east London while claiming they were enforcing sharia law.
A judge at the Old Bailey had heard that Jordan Horner, 19, Ricardo MacFarlane, 26, and a 23-year-old man who cannot be named for legal reasons, had terrorised a couple for walking through Bethnal Green holding hands, told a woman in Stepney that she would be punished in "hellfire" because of the way she was dressed, and attacked a group of men who were drinking in Shoreditch.
Horner – who has previously said he wants to bring sharia law to Britain – was jailed for a total of 17 months after pleading guilty to two charges of assault and two charges of using threatening words and behaviour.
MacFarlane was sentenced to 12 months in prison after pleading guilty to affray, while the 23-year-old received a six-month sentence after pleading guilty to affray.
Passing sentence on Friday, Judge Rebecca Poulet QC told them that while Islam was a peaceful religion, their conduct was "unfortunately anything but".
"One of the many good things about living in Great Britain is the tolerance and respect members of the public generally show to one another's religious beliefs, his dress or his chosen way of life.
"When, on occasions, a person shows their intolerance of another individual, whether by aggression or violence and in such a way as to cause real fear to the individual, then the law can be invoked to protect that individual."
The judge said that her sentencing powers were restricted because the prosecution had chosen not to prefer religiously aggravated offences.
The court had been told that Horner and the 23-year-old man drove alongside Joshua Bilton and Anna Reddiford in Bethnal Green and yelled at them through a megaphone.
Horner shouted: "Let go of each other's hands. This is a Muslim area!"
The couple initially believed it was a joke but the group repeated the warning until they let go of each other's hands.
When they started holding hands again a few minutes later the car re-appeared and blocked their path until they let go.
Two weeks later, on 6 January this year, Horner and MacFarlane attacked a group of men drinking in the streets of Shoreditch.
They said that they were there to "enforce Sharia law" in "Allah's land", and shouted: "Kill the non-believers".
Horner then punched two of the group, hitting James Forward in the jaw and knocking out Patrick Kavanagh with a punch to the head.
A week later, Horner and the 23-year-old confronted another couple, Clare Coyle and Robert Gray, walking in the street in Stepney. The 23-year-old accused Coyle of dressing inappropriately in a Muslim area and that she would be punished in "hellfire".
Horner filmed the incident on his mobile phone and called Clare Coyle a "slag". She told him: "This is Great Britain. I can dress how I wish."
In the video, which was later uploaded to YouTube, the group can be heard shouting: "You need to control this area and forbid people from exposing themselves outside the mosque. Remove yourselves now. Muslim Patrol. Move away from the mosque. Don't come back. We don't respect those who disrespect God."
Horner, who changed his name to Jamal Uddin, was jailed for six weeks in July this year for assaulting a photographer and causing £3,000 of damage to a car in an attack in Walthamstow. He was also seen putting up posters across east London "banning" alcohol. Jordan Horner/Jamal Uddin:
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notorganic
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Rangas should not have beards.
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Looks like a neckbeard that got kicked out of mummas basement. -PB
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afromanGT
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I don't think 17 months jail is going to be much of a deterrent.
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SlyGoat36
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Surely thats against his human rights?
He should be allowed to enforce sharia law.
God England is a shit hole.
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Converts, seems like they're often the most fanatical.
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England going to shit.
Edited by iridium1010: 8/12/2013 02:10:00 PM
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afromanGT
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SlyGoat36 wrote:Surely thats against his human rights?
He should be allowed to enforce sharia law.
God England is a shit hole. No he shouldn't. It contravenes the Law of the Land. In fact I'm fairly sure that Sharia Law states that it can't be enforced in conflict with the Law of the Land.
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zimbos_05
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SlyGoat36 wrote:Surely thats against his human rights?
He should be allowed to enforce sharia law.
God England is a shit hole. I hope this is a joke. No Muslims has any right to impose Shariah Law in a non islamic country. Iridium1010 wrote:Converts, seems like they're often the most fanatical.
Often see this a lot. Many converts often get this extreme idea because they new to the faith and are so intent on not going astray so they often take a hardline act to many things.
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zimbos_05 wrote:Iridium1010 wrote:Converts, seems like they're often the most fanatical.
Often see this a lot. Many converts often get this extreme idea because they new to the faith and are so intent on not going astray so they often take a hardline act to many things. You have to wonder who is teaching these guys this, in Australia have you experienced any "extreme" preaching at your mosque?
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Iridium1010 wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:Iridium1010 wrote:Converts, seems like they're often the most fanatical.
Often see this a lot. Many converts often get this extreme idea because they new to the faith and are so intent on not going astray so they often take a hardline act to many things. You have to wonder who is teaching these guys this, in Australia have you experienced any "extreme" preaching at your mosque? I know of a guy in the congregation who feels that Shariah Law should be implemented. But that is it. He hasnt done anything about it. The leaders and imams at the mosques and centres i attend are not of that view. They are very much of the view that we must be grateful for what we have and that we must become active contributors to Australian society for the advancement of the country. In saying that, i know of people who have started their own organisations and such and have some slightly over the top views and they set up info stands and actively go out and preach. In saying that, they are not overly extreme and dont preach extreme things like war and implementing shariah law and that. This is the people that i know.
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afromanGT wrote:SlyGoat36 wrote:Surely thats against his human rights?
He should be allowed to enforce sharia law.
God England is a shit hole. No he shouldn't. It contravenes the Law of the Land. In fact I'm fairly sure that Sharia Law states that it can't be enforced in conflict with the Law of the Land. Should have used the blue font. I've read a few articles in the past of people raping children and promoting terror but facing no harsh sentences due to human rights.
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afromanGT
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SlyGoat36 wrote:afromanGT wrote:SlyGoat36 wrote:Surely thats against his human rights?
He should be allowed to enforce sharia law.
God England is a shit hole. No he shouldn't. It contravenes the Law of the Land. In fact I'm fairly sure that Sharia Law states that it can't be enforced in conflict with the Law of the Land. Should have used the blue font. I've read a few articles in the past of people raping children and promoting terror but facing no harsh sentences due to human rights. Possibly not so much because of human rights but because they're in refugee camps they aren't governed by any country's laws and therefore remain free from prosecution.
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zimbos_05 wrote:SlyGoat36 wrote:Surely thats against his human rights?
He should be allowed to enforce sharia law.
God England is a shit hole. I hope this is a joke. No Muslims has any right to impose Shariah Law in a non islamic country. What constitutes an Islamic country? Is it population of Muslims by percentage? Constitutional? Should a good Muslim be doing everything in their power to transform a Christian or Secular country into an Islamic one lawfully? Once a Christian or Secular nation transforms into an Islamic one, is it then ok to enforce Sharia Law on the entire populace?
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zimbos_05
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notorganic wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:SlyGoat36 wrote:Surely thats against his human rights?
He should be allowed to enforce sharia law.
God England is a shit hole. I hope this is a joke. No Muslims has any right to impose Shariah Law in a non islamic country. What constitutes an Islamic country? Is it population of Muslims by percentage? Constitutional? Should a good Muslim be doing everything in their power to transform a Christian or Secular country into an Islamic one lawfully? Once a Christian or Secular nation transforms into an Islamic one, is it then ok to enforce Sharia Law on the entire populace? No. A good muslim should not be doing everything they can to transform a Christian or secular country into an Islamic one. Yes, Muslims should spread the religion, in peaceful and just and correct ways, but they should not come to a non Islamic country and actively seek to change it to a Muslim country especially changing laws.
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notorganic
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But what makes an Islamic state so?
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notorganic wrote:But what makes an Islamic state so? Im sorry. I cant give you the parameters. Im not learned in the matter. But I can tell you that just because the population of the UK seems to have a large portion of muslims, it cant justify any form of movement towards an Islamic state even if a muslim was to become PM.
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