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Draupnir wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:jlm8695 wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:jlm8695 wrote:FFA and Fox have banned the streaming of FFA cup matches not televised. Sauces? Glad to see the two Adelaide games will be on diff days. -PB  By coverage I assume they mean cross overs to a reporter when a goal is scoredd ](*,) Exactly. Clubs streaming games is what has helped make the Cup so popular thus far. Sure as shit wasn't from tweeting bits of information here and there on websites. Without those streams, Fox wouldn't even have footage for their highlights packages ffs. -PB Yep, and they've honestly missed a trick there. They could've simply allowed the clubs to stream the games and requested there to be a Foxtel watermark above the on screen scoreboard. It's essentially free advertising ](*,) Spot on. Fuck they could even run some of the Fox ads in the half time break if they wanted to (like some streams did in the R32). -PB
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paulbagzFC
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Come to think of it, it's probably the Wolves v CCM stream that has caused this shit storm (due to advertising). -PB
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paulbagzFC
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So Olympic (Brisbane) have had their home ground moved as well, why was their last match ok but not this one? Looking like SU58's game might be moved also. -PB
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Schultzy
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thewitness wrote:Schultzy wrote:There was a good article in the Advertiser today, which I can't seem to find an online copy of, which outlined that the SAASL was willing to speak to the FFA about what would be required to join the FFA cup. it also went on to explain a bit about SAASL and why it is so popular here (ie costs). Also stating there are 87 clubs registered with the SAASL and 29 with FFSA. With the FFSA having a total of something like 18,000 registered players.
Does anyone have a copy or template of it?
Edited by schultzy: 27/8/2014 01:43:11 PM There's probably more like 70 senior mens clubs registered with the FFSA, because the Collegiate Soccer League, and some of the country leagues (Riverland, Broken Hill, Western Border and Port Lincoln (i think))are as well. The SA Masters league has more over 35's clubs, that are also FFSA aligned. All the junior associations are FFSA aligned so that would make up the bulk of the 18,000 registered players.I don't think the FFA will allow non-FFA aligned clubs into their Cup competition. It might be an incentive to tempt some SAASL clubs back into the FFSA fold. what? no they aren't.... Eliz and districsts & Southern districts are not, and within the article it states these two bodies make up 6800 of the registered players under SAASL It might tempt them and in some ways I hope it does. but there is a reason this body exists and it will remain so long as the FFSA clubs are out of reach financially for so many people. Edited by schultzy: 27/8/2014 03:28:05 PM
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Slobodan Drauposevic
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paulbagzFC wrote:So Olympic (Brisbane) have had their home ground moved as well, why was their last match ok but not this one?
Looking like SU58's game might be moved also.
-PB TBF they use the Queensland Sports & Athletics Centre for bigger matches ( like last years NPL semi-final vs. Sydney United 58). Still though, the whole point of a competition like this is to play it AT the smaller grounds. Romance of the cup and all..
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paulbagzFC
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Draupnir wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:So Olympic (Brisbane) have had their home ground moved as well, why was their last match ok but not this one?
Looking like SU58's game might be moved also.
-PB TBF they use the Queensland Sports & Athletics Centre for bigger matches ( like last years NPL semi-final vs. Sydney United 58). Still though, the whole point of a competition like this is to play it AT the smaller grounds. Romance of the cup and all.. Romance of the Track. -PB
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Slobodan Drauposevic
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paulbagzFC wrote:Draupnir wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:So Olympic (Brisbane) have had their home ground moved as well, why was their last match ok but not this one?
Looking like SU58's game might be moved also.
-PB TBF they use the Queensland Sports & Athletics Centre for bigger matches ( like last years NPL semi-final vs. Sydney United 58). Still though, the whole point of a competition like this is to play it AT the smaller grounds. Romance of the cup and all.. Romance of the Track. -PB Crowd is obviously completely packed as well, so I can understand it from that perspective too 8-[ EDIT: Relevant quote from youtube - Quote:154659210 months ago I don't wish to be hypercritical but whose stupid idea was it to play this at QEII rather than Goodwin Park? Seriously? Edited by Draupnir: 27/8/2014 03:39:49 PM
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I can completely understand Fox not wanting other streams of the games however they will have cameras at every game, with outside broadcast facilities feeding it live back to their studio in Sydney. They also have the capacity to stream their broadcast via the net as they did with the EAC games in Hong Kong, Fox hero cam and other miscellaneous FSN events. Sure this will be an additional cost but I can't see it being a big one. The only concern they'd have is that it cheapens their "product" i suspect.
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They better not move the St Albans game from Churchill reserve, 10 mins from home and cevapi to die for
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paulbagzFC wrote:So Olympic (Brisbane) have had their home ground moved as well, why was their last match ok but not this one?
Looking like SU58's game might be moved also.
-PB That's fucking disgraceful, the last game at Goodwin Park was a belter. This cup was meant to be about local clubs hosting A-League teams and we haven't seen that once bar in Wollongon. No one is going to go to fucking QE2 which is the shittest stadium in Australia for a cup match between a Yeronga NPL side and the Central Coast.
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Draupnir wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:So Olympic (Brisbane) have had their home ground moved as well, why was their last match ok but not this one?
Looking like SU58's game might be moved also.
-PB TBF they use the Queensland Sports & Athletics Centre for bigger matches ( like last years NPL semi-final vs. Sydney United 58). Still though, the whole point of a competition like this is to play it AT the smaller grounds. Romance of the cup and all.. Fucking this, the FFA should have made it clear at the start of the tournament that they aren't interested in letting clubs host games at their actual grounds.
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thewitness
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Its pretty simple, and I'm sure the clubs new this from the start. Professional Footballers (of any code) can not play a competitive fixture according to the Australian Standard AS 2560.2.3-2007 at a stadium that has under 500 Lux Lighting at night.
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Draupnir wrote:Wow, that is a nice ground. Good to see all seats are undercover with the atrocious weather that's been around ACT and NSW lately. Yeah Vikings Park is really nice. Rectangle ground with 2,000 covered seating and heaps of space for additional fans ( they say up to an additional 8,000 ). The club is also next to the ground and there is a seperate training pitch next to the main pitch which is also lighted. I am looking forward to heading down to Tuggers to watch the match. It is not the club's normal ground but like I said ages ago on here their normal home could perhaps hold 200 people so this is a good step up to keep the game in the valley without heading over to Woden. So what is the go with Fox showing only two games in the round of 16 and the rest of the games they will be providing updates of in their live coverage? I thought they were going to be broadcasting all matches?
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melbourne_terrace wrote:Fucking this, the FFA should have made it clear at the start of the tournament that they aren't interested in letting clubs host games at their actual grounds. :lol: :lol: :lol: at anyone who didn't think this would happen.
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Anyone have the FFA Cup Q&A handy? They did say something about this at the outset...
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paulbagzFC wrote:So Olympic (Brisbane) have had their home ground moved as well, why was their last match ok but not this one?
Looking like SU58's game might be moved also.
-PB From an extremely selfish point of view, good for me. :lol:
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so as per the article that came out today, we have to provide a lux certificate? our lights are fine... I have a sense there is more too it than this... security reasons, and easier for the FFA to control, if it is at Parramatta stadium. FFA can go fuck themselves if they move it, and his cup competition would be dead to me. frustrating as hell!
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paulbagzFC wrote:So Olympic (Brisbane) have had their home ground moved as well, why was their last match ok but not this one?
Looking like SU58's game might be moved also.
-PB 1st round Olympic played against a semi pro side so only needed 200 lux lighting. Now against a pro team they need 500lux.
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It's still technically a home fixture wherever they play it, lol. Let's hope it's Edensor. And if they don't have lights up to the standards of the contracts involved, well really, tough shit, those are the rules. Sucks, but what can you do.
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Draupnir wrote:It's still technically a home fixture wherever they play it, lol. Let's hope it's Edensor. And if they don't have lights up to the standards of the contracts involved, well really, tough shit, those are the rules. Sucks, but what can you do. Add light bulbs
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don't understand why they couldn't of announced it a few hours ago FFS. :lol: anyways the way it should be! :cool:
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 As if Edensor has a lighting problem.
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Hunter Stadium for Comparison....
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Olympic are livid, apparently the FFA gave them no warning about lighting requirements in the entry conditions and are trying to get Football Queensland involved. They say they have 200 Lux and the FFA demand 350 Lux. The fact that this is only an issue now when it's an A-League team coming is a farce.
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melbourne_terrace wrote:Olympic are livid, apparently the FFA gave them no warning about lighting requirements in the entry conditions and are trying to get Football Queensland involved. They say they have 200 Lux and the FFA demand 350 Lux. The fact that this is only an issue now when it's an A-League team coming is a farce. The FFA don't need to give them a warning ffs :lol: If you sign a contract and then complain later on about what's in that contract, it's no one else's fault but your own.
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melbourne_terrace wrote:Olympic are livid, apparently the FFA gave them no warning about lighting requirements in the entry conditions and are trying to get Football Queensland involved. They say they have 200 Lux and the FFA demand 350 Lux. The fact that this is only an issue now when it's an A-League team coming is a farce. Isn't this because of the different levels of insurance? I agree that it's farcical but if whoever covers the A-league wont cover players in these matches if there is poor lighting not really much anyone can do about it.
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Draupnir wrote:melbourne_terrace wrote:Olympic are livid, apparently the FFA gave them no warning about lighting requirements in the entry conditions and are trying to get Football Queensland involved. They say they have 200 Lux and the FFA demand 350 Lux. The fact that this is only an issue now when it's an A-League team coming is a farce. The FFA don't need to give them a warning ffs :lol: If you sign a contract and then complain later on about what's in that contract, it's no one else's fault but your own. Can you even read? In the document Olympic signed agreeing to participate in the cup, there was no mentioning of light requirements (or if it was there it was extremely vague). How can a venue that was fantastic in the rd of 32 suddenly be inappropriate in the Rd of 16 when it's not even being broadcast on TV? The FFA have pulled these rules out of their arse as they go along.
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jlm8695 wrote:melbourne_terrace wrote:Olympic are livid, apparently the FFA gave them no warning about lighting requirements in the entry conditions and are trying to get Football Queensland involved. They say they have 200 Lux and the FFA demand 350 Lux. The fact that this is only an issue now when it's an A-League team coming is a farce. Isn't this because of the different levels of insurance? I agree that it's farcical but if whoever covers the A-league wont cover players in these matches if there is poor lighting not really much anyone can do about it. Then they should probably stop allowing pre season friendlies at most NPL grounds. The olympic lights are no worse than most teams.
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melbourne_terrace wrote:jlm8695 wrote:melbourne_terrace wrote:Olympic are livid, apparently the FFA gave them no warning about lighting requirements in the entry conditions and are trying to get Football Queensland involved. They say they have 200 Lux and the FFA demand 350 Lux. The fact that this is only an issue now when it's an A-League team coming is a farce. Isn't this because of the different levels of insurance? I agree that it's farcical but if whoever covers the A-league wont cover players in these matches if there is poor lighting not really much anyone can do about it. Then they should probably stop allowing pre season friendlies at most NPL grounds. The olympic lights are no worse than most teams. I'm guessing there might be different stipulations from the insurers in regards to pre season and competitive matches?
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