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scott21 wrote:I saw on fb someone complained about the shoot out
[youtube]PXnHORDz_h8[/youtube]
Now on review those kids acted like cheating little flogs. They should not be doing that on the field as , I assume, ball boys. Otherwise they were just randoms getting on the pitch.
Is it enough to disqualify SU? I not sure what the rules state but it probably isn't enough for that. It is however disgraceful behavior and I hope the FFA have a word.
We just can't have cowboys doing whatever they want in a national comp.
Edited by scott21 : 5/8/2015 02:56:58 AM Interesting to see a neutral say this. In Tassie people are going apoplectic about it. In all fairness SU 58 were the better side and deserved to win. Triantis and Nickas are a higher quality than any of the South Hobart players. SU 58 had more control of the game. With those fans going over the fence and putting off the pen takers, I'm not sure whose jurisdiction it is to stop it - the ref's or the game match manager's? It is tantamount to cheating. I was surprised nobody turned up after a big crowd watched SFC beat SU 58 last year. What we do know is that Tassie, inexplicably, is fast closing the gap on Victorian and NSW NPL teams. Now that we have SAP, NTC and the same FFA universal coach education available here, things are looking up.
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The ref should have stopped it but in a perfect world you would hope this didn't occur.
It's nice that all the kids can run on afterwards..... It's a shame if the Palm Beach kids tried that at cbus they can be eligible for fines
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Well they still can can't they being an FFA sanctioned game? -PB
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paulbagzFC wrote:Well they still can can't they being an FFA sanctioned game?
-PB South Hobart should put in a complaint regardless. SU will blame the ref, but that's like blaming the police for not stopping crimes :lol: Could you imagine the conspiracy if they lost 3-0 :lol:
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Guess it's also up to the players to complain at the time. -PB
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aussie scott21
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paulbagzFC wrote:Guess it's also up to the players to complain at the time.
-PB You could use the "national exposure/nervous" etc .... "I blacked out your honor"
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Decentric wrote:scott21 wrote:I saw on fb someone complained about the shoot out
[youtube]PXnHORDz_h8[/youtube]
Now on review those kids acted like cheating little flogs. They should not be doing that on the field as , I assume, ball boys. Otherwise they were just randoms getting on the pitch.
Is it enough to disqualify SU? I not sure what the rules state but it probably isn't enough for that. It is however disgraceful behavior and I hope the FFA have a word.
We just can't have cowboys doing whatever they want in a national comp.
Edited by scott21 : 5/8/2015 02:56:58 AM Interesting to see a neutral say this. In Tassie people are going apoplectic about it. In all fairness SU 58 were the better side and deserved to win. Triantis and Nickas are a higher quality than any of the South Hobart players. SU 58 had more control of the game. With those fans going over the fence and putting off the pen takers, I'm not sure whose jurisdiction it is to stop it - the ref's or the game match manager's? It is tantamount to cheating. I was surprised nobody turned up after a big crowd watched SFC beat SU 58 last year. What we do know is that Tassie, inexplicably, is fast closing the gap on Victorian and NSW NPL teams. Now that we have SAP, NTC and the same FFA universal coach education available here, things are looking up. Are you blokes serious? A couple of 8-10 year old ball boys jumping around a bit is 'tantamount to cheating'? I'm sure that if the officials or South Hobart felt that it was an issue then they would have been asked to move on. I wouldnt expect a park footballer to be put off by that, FFS. As for the match itself, we were clearly the much better side. South did their homework and tried to hit us with quick counters and played a very direct style. Full credit to them, they obviously spoke to a couple of coaches up here and were told how to get in behind us quite easily. As for the 'gap closing fast'... well, I dont know about that. We're 9th at the moment and just got pumped 5-0 on the weekend with a very similar side on the pitch. We've been atrocious in the last couple of months and now have the second worst defence in the league.... and yet we dominated for most of the 120 minutes with SH looking to sucker punch us where possible. Bilic, Triantis and Nikas played around SH at will. Triantis beat a few players in the middle of the park for the equaliser. I didnt see too much evidence of the gap closing when your top side couldnt get past the #9 side in NSW which was missing two of its most influential players. The crowd was poor but SH arent a big attraction. It was a similar crowd to the one we had against NQH last year with the majority being on the camera side.
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If it was Sydney FC I would feel the same way. It doesn't matter if you were the better side as you didn't win the match in regular or extra time.
It's your club why would you agree?
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scott21 wrote:If it was Sydney FC I would feel the same way. It doesn't matter if you were the better side as you didn't win the match in regular or extra time.
It's your club why would you agree? If the roles were reversed I wouldnt agree either. If one of our players blamed 8 year olds for missing a crucial penalty I'd want him out of my club, FFS. As I said, the officials and the SH players clearly didnt have an issue with it. Not once did any of them point to the kids or have a chat to the officials. I dont think anybody at the ground even noticed the kids and I doubt any of the penalty shooters did either. My point about us being the better side was a separate discussion to the shootout.
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MV down to Balmain Tigers should not have people trying to purposefully distract players whilst standing on the field of play. At AAMI or Etihad it is not ok. At the smallest stadium it is not acceptable either.
This harden up, ffs crap is just that crap
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scott21 wrote:MV down to Balmain Tigers should not have people trying to purposefully distract players whilst standing on the field of play. At AAMI or Etihad it is not ok. At the smallest stadium it is not acceptable either.
This harden up, ffs crap is just that crap So if they moved 30cm back behind the fence it'd be less distracting? There was about 100 kids behind that goal screaming and jumping around. Nothing about hardening up. It's about focusing on your job - putting the ball in the back of the net. If a couple of kids can put you off from that then you should reconsider your career as a footballer. Personally, I would have found the much larger frame of Justin Pasfield jumping around more distracting than a kid a further 5m back.
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SydneyCroatia wrote:scott21 wrote:MV down to Balmain Tigers should not have people trying to purposefully distract players whilst standing on the field of play. At AAMI or Etihad it is not ok. At the smallest stadium it is not acceptable either.
This harden up, ffs crap is just that crap So if they moved 30cm back behind the fence it'd be less distracting? Exactly There was about 100 kids behind that goal screaming and jumping around. Doing the right thingNothing about hardening up. It's about focusing on your job - putting the ball in the back of the net. If a couple of kids can put you off from that then you should reconsider your career as a footballer. Personally, I would have found the much larger frame of Justin Pasfield jumping around more distracting than a kid a further 5m back. It doesn't matter. This isn't the wild Wild West. We need rules to be followed. Regardless of whether it is your team or any other team you have to follow the rules to prevent situations/discussions like this. Edited by scott21 : 5/8/2015 07:06:11 AM
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SydneyCroatia
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scott21 wrote:SydneyCroatia wrote:scott21 wrote:MV down to Balmain Tigers should not have people trying to purposefully distract players whilst standing on the field of play. At AAMI or Etihad it is not ok. At the smallest stadium it is not acceptable either.
This harden up, ffs crap is just that crap So if they moved 30cm back behind the fence it'd be less distracting? Exactly There was about 100 kids behind that goal screaming and jumping around. Doing the right thingNothing about hardening up. It's about focusing on your job - putting the ball in the back of the net. If a couple of kids can put you off from that then you should reconsider your career as a footballer. Personally, I would have found the much larger frame of Justin Pasfield jumping around more distracting than a kid a further 5m back. It doesn't matter. This isn't the wild Wild West. We need rules to be followed. Regardless of whether it is your team or any other team you have to follow the rules to prevent situations/discussions like this. Edited by scott21 : 5/8/2015 07:06:11 AM See you in the round of 16.
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SydneyCroatia wrote:scott21 wrote:SydneyCroatia wrote:scott21 wrote:MV down to Balmain Tigers should not have people trying to purposefully distract players whilst standing on the field of play. At AAMI or Etihad it is not ok. At the smallest stadium it is not acceptable either.
This harden up, ffs crap is just that crap So if they moved 30cm back behind the fence it'd be less distracting? Exactly There was about 100 kids behind that goal screaming and jumping around. Doing the right thingNothing about hardening up. It's about focusing on your job - putting the ball in the back of the net. If a couple of kids can put you off from that then you should reconsider your career as a footballer. Personally, I would have found the much larger frame of Justin Pasfield jumping around more distracting than a kid a further 5m back. It doesn't matter. This isn't the wild Wild West. We need rules to be followed. Regardless of whether it is your team or any other team you have to follow the rules to prevent situations/discussions like this. Edited by scott21 : 5/8/2015 07:06:11 AM See you in the round of 16. Hey I said I want the Heat re match. let's hope you get an away trip for once.
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A couple of years back my wife&sister were playing in their allage semi-final and it went t o penalty shootouts.
My nephew and I went and stood behind the goals at the penalty end (edit: behind the fence though, not on the field) - not to wind up anyone or anything, just to get a good view. A ground volunteer (it was the oppositions home venue) asked us to stand about 2metres wide of the posts, as they wanted to keep the behind the goal area clear so it didn't distract the kick takers. I told him that I didn't believe such a rule existed, that in the A-League they wouldn't ask the Jets fans to move wide of the posts when behind the goals, that the opposition fans had as much a right to stand in the same area as me, and that I wasn't moving. His jurisdiction ended there, he didn't know how to handle it. He mumbled a few things, one of which included getting the ref to tell me to move. I told him the only person I'd listen to in regards to moving would be the ref, as I am led to believe it is entirely up to him. By that time, the first penalty kick was ready to be taken. He gave up on getting me to move :lol: but instead wound up all the 6-12 year old kids who were children of the opposition team, and he purposely got them to try and wind up our players when they kicked. So he stooped to a level he was fighting against :lol:
In the end my sister saved two pens, my wife didn't take any. We won, had a week off, and the week after beat the same team in the final :cool:
tl;dr - it's up to the ref.
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scott21 wrote:SydneyCroatia wrote:scott21 wrote:SydneyCroatia wrote:scott21 wrote:MV down to Balmain Tigers should not have people trying to purposefully distract players whilst standing on the field of play. At AAMI or Etihad it is not ok. At the smallest stadium it is not acceptable either.
This harden up, ffs crap is just that crap So if they moved 30cm back behind the fence it'd be less distracting? Exactly There was about 100 kids behind that goal screaming and jumping around. Doing the right thingNothing about hardening up. It's about focusing on your job - putting the ball in the back of the net. If a couple of kids can put you off from that then you should reconsider your career as a footballer. Personally, I would have found the much larger frame of Justin Pasfield jumping around more distracting than a kid a further 5m back. It doesn't matter. This isn't the wild Wild West. We need rules to be followed. Regardless of whether it is your team or any other team you have to follow the rules to prevent situations/discussions like this. Edited by scott21 : 5/8/2015 07:06:11 AM See you in the round of 16. Hey I said I want the Heat re match. let's hope you get an away trip for once. You and me both.
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scott21 wrote:I saw on fb someone complained about the shoot out
[youtube]PXnHORDz_h8[/youtube]
Now on review those kids acted like cheating little flogs. They should not be doing that on the field as , I assume, ball boys. Otherwise they were just randoms getting on the pitch.
Is it enough to disqualify SU? I not sure what the rules state but it probably isn't enough for that. It is however disgraceful behavior and I hope the FFA have a word.
We just can't have cowboys doing whatever they want in a national comp.
Edited by scott21 : 5/8/2015 02:56:58 AM this guy. FFS. :lol: on the pitch they were ball boys... disgraceful behaviour, by 10 year olds, listen to yourself :lol: Round of 16 here we come :cool:
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Decentric wrote:scott21 wrote:I saw on fb someone complained about the shoot out
[youtube]PXnHORDz_h8[/youtube]
Now on review those kids acted like cheating little flogs. They should not be doing that on the field as , I assume, ball boys. Otherwise they were just randoms getting on the pitch.
Is it enough to disqualify SU? I not sure what the rules state but it probably isn't enough for that. It is however disgraceful behavior and I hope the FFA have a word.
We just can't have cowboys doing whatever they want in a national comp.
Edited by scott21 : 5/8/2015 02:56:58 AM Interesting to see a neutral say this. In Tassie people are going apoplectic about it. In all fairness SU 58 were the better side and deserved to win. Triantis and Nickas are a higher quality than any of the South Hobart players. SU 58 had more control of the game. With those fans going over the fence and putting off the pen takers, I'm not sure whose jurisdiction it is to stop it - the ref's or the game match manager's? It is tantamount to cheating. I was surprised nobody turned up after a big crowd watched SFC beat SU 58 last year. What we do know is that Tassie, inexplicably, is fast closing the gap on Victorian and NSW NPL teams. Now that we have SAP, NTC and the same FFA universal coach education available here, things are looking up. so what in Europe when you have 10,000 people behind the goals for a penalty shoot-out, does the ref tell them to move away? tell them to stop cheating? lol... you guys seriously have a few lose screws in your head. the kids were booooing as well, I am sure you can label them as racists :lol: Edited by 19-su-58: 5/8/2015 08:36:58 AMEdited by 19-su-58: 5/8/2015 08:37:16 AM
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19-SU-58 wrote:Decentric wrote:scott21 wrote:I saw on fb someone complained about the shoot out
[youtube]PXnHORDz_h8[/youtube]
Now on review those kids acted like cheating little flogs. They should not be doing that on the field as , I assume, ball boys. Otherwise they were just randoms getting on the pitch.
Is it enough to disqualify SU? I not sure what the rules state but it probably isn't enough for that. It is however disgraceful behavior and I hope the FFA have a word.
We just can't have cowboys doing whatever they want in a national comp.
Edited by scott21 : 5/8/2015 02:56:58 AM Interesting to see a neutral say this. In Tassie people are going apoplectic about it. In all fairness SU 58 were the better side and deserved to win. Triantis and Nickas are a higher quality than any of the South Hobart players. SU 58 had more control of the game. With those fans going over the fence and putting off the pen takers, I'm not sure whose jurisdiction it is to stop it - the ref's or the game match manager's? It is tantamount to cheating. I was surprised nobody turned up after a big crowd watched SFC beat SU 58 last year. What we do know is that Tassie, inexplicably, is fast closing the gap on Victorian and NSW NPL teams. Now that we have SAP, NTC and the same FFA universal coach education available here, things are looking up. so what in Europe when you have 10,000 people behind the goals for a penalty shoot-out, does the ref tell them to move away? tell them to stop cheating? lol... you guys seriously have a few lose screws in your head. the kids were booooing as well, I am sure you can label them as racists :lol: Edited by 19-su-58: 5/8/2015 08:36:58 AMEdited by 19-su-58: 5/8/2015 08:37:16 AM The difference is, they were over the fence.
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scott21 wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:Well they still can can't they being an FFA sanctioned game?
-PB South Hobart should put in a complaint regardless. SU will blame the ref, but that's like blaming the police for not stopping crimes :lol: Could you imagine the conspiracy if they lost 3-0 :lol: What would a complaint achieve in terms of the FFA Cup? If I thought South had been the better side, I would be a lot more concerned. They weren't.
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They were cheating shits. In fairness though the keeper should have arked up and told them to fuck off.
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So who do victory and city play next?
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TheSelectFew
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Cityslicker10 wrote:So who do victory and city play next? Find out after next weeks games.
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SydneyCroatia wrote: Are you blokes serious? A couple of 8-10 year old ball boys jumping around a bit is 'tantamount to cheating'? I'm sure that if the officials or South Hobart felt that it was an issue then they would have been asked to move on. I wouldnt expect a park footballer to be put off by that, FFS.
As for the match itself, we were clearly the much better side. South did their homework and tried to hit us with quick counters and played a very direct style. Full credit to them, they obviously spoke to a couple of coaches up here and were told how to get in behind us quite easily.
As for the 'gap closing fast'... well, I dont know about that. We're 9th at the moment and just got pumped 5-0 on the weekend with a very similar side on the pitch. We've been atrocious in the last couple of months and now have the second worst defence in the league.... and yet we dominated for most of the 120 minutes with SH looking to sucker punch us where possible.
Bilic, Triantis and Nikas played around SH at will. Triantis beat a few players in the middle of the park for the equaliser.
I didnt see too much evidence of the gap closing when your top side couldnt get past the #9 side in NSW which was missing two of its most influential players.
The crowd was poor but SH arent a big attraction. It was a similar crowd to the one we had against NQH last year with the majority being on the camera side.
Astonishing that you of all people, an absolutely one eyed SU fan, can make comments about relative standards?](*,) I've seen SU 58 (twice), South Melbourne and Campbelltown play South in the last few years. About a decade ago they were a lot more dominant against any Tassie teams. This South side lost its best player to South Melbourne and Jets. In the Tassie NPL, South H is neck and neck with Olympic and Zebras in the league table. They've been much more dominant in the past. It may be an increasingly common phenomenon across Australia that the regions are catching up with the bigger metropolitan centres. Coach education is uniform, so why not?
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TheSelectFew wrote:Cityslicker10 wrote:So who do victory and city play next? Find out after next weeks games. any chance they can play each other or is that only if they both make the final?
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ah, what a good night of cup football that was.
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The ref was appalling in the shootout, both keepers were often well off their line by the time the kick came in, he allowed Pasfield to carry on like a pork chop and did nothing about the ball boys (they're just a bunch of kids being little shits, as kids do, but the ref should've had none of it).
At the end of the day, though, it was a fair result given the balance of the game so SoHo can't complain too hard.
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SydneyCroatia wrote: The crowd was poor but SH arent a big attraction. It was a similar crowd to the one we had against NQH last year with the majority being on the camera side.
I'm surprised you infer that SU 58 fans only turn up to watch the opposition.:-k I thought they'd be pleased to watch SU 58. That they don't choose to support their local team depending on the quality and status of the opposition is surprising.
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loki wrote:The ref was appalling in the shootout, both keepers were often well off their line by the time the kick came in, he allowed Pasfield to carry on like a pork chop and did nothing about the ball boys (they're just a bunch of kids being little shits, as kids do, but the ref should've had none of it).
At the end of the day, though, it was a fair result given the balance of the game so SoHo can't complain too hard. I know the coach. That is exactly how he would perceive the game too.
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Griffindinho wrote:ah, what a good night of cup football that was. X2
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