Who will be the NPLV clubs?


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Following today's news that the FFV is considering 38 applicants for the NPLV, does anyone have any inside knowledge as to who these clubs are? And which ones are the front runners?

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FFV receives 38 NPL applications
22.01.2014
Successful applicants to be announced on February 7.

Football Federation Victoria (FFV) can confirm it has received 38 applications for the 2014 National Premier Leagues (NPL) of Victoria.

Applications closed at 5pm on Monday January 20, with FFV’s assessment panel reviewing applications from today until Friday.

FFV will reveal the successful applicants on February 7.

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Will be interesting to see the final cut. Are clubs allowed to use their current names?

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Not sure what was finally agreed.

Probably something like this, plus regional clubs like Ballarat Red Devils and minus a few clubs.

NPLV   
No   Club Name
1   Bentleigh Greens
2   Dandenong Thunder
3   Green Gully
4   Hume City
5   Melbourne Knights
6   Northcote City
7   Oakleigh Cannons
8   Pascoe Vale
9   Port Melbourne Sharks
10   Heidelberg United
11   South Melbourne
12   Werribee City
13   
14   

NPLV 1   
No   Club Name
1   Altona Magic
2   Box Hill United
3   Eastern Lions SC
4   Fawkner Blues
5   FC Bulleen Lions
6   Heidelberg United
7   North Geelong Warriors
8   Sunshine George Cross
9   St Albans Saints
10   Werribee City
11   Western Suburbs
12   Moreland Zebras
13   Richmond SC
14   Southern Stars



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Indication coming out of the FFV was that ALL compliant bids would be accepted, even if they had to expand the comp to 3 divisions to fit them all in - with promotion/relegation between the three divisions from the beginning, but none from the state leagues in or out of the NPL.

It will be interesting to see how many of the 38 are duplicate bids - I know of at least 2 clubs that were submitting double bids - one under their traditional name, and another as a separate entity (transparent to anyone actually reading the applications - nothing underhand going on).
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The 60+ clubs were behind two regional clubs at each level.
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NPLV bid back on the table

SOCCER

NPLV

By samuel darroch

THE Gippsland Soccer League is poised to submit a non-binding expression of interest to establish a franchise in the National Premier Leagues Victoria competition this year, following two emergency meetings at Latrobe City Sports Stadium last month.

The move comes after Football Federation Victoria called for a new round of EOIs since deciding to forge ahead with the NPLV in 2014, despite a drawn out legal battle which held up planning and execution of the new league.

GSL member clubs voted to tentatively pursue a licence after attending an information session detailing changes to the original NPLV structure - forced by a Supreme Court battle between FFV and dissenting co-signatory clubs over the model's implementation - and a question and answer evening with FFV chair Nick Monteleone in December.

The GSL elected not to submit an application under the initial NPL model last year, but relaxations to the entry criteria reignited local interest in the scheme, which is set to act as a nationally consistent second tier of football behind the A-League.

Total franchise costs, estimated to be about $500,000 under the previous framework, could be reduced by up to half under the revisal, which includes a $40,000 plus GST licence fee.

Strict coaching accreditation requirements have also been reduced.

Other changes include a $2000 cap on junior registration fees and the adoption of a player points system which encourages the promotion of local talent.

Successful applicants will still be required to field eight teams - under 12s, 13s, 14s, 15s, 16s, 18s, 20s and seniors - in season one, with under 17s, women's and girl's sides all to be included in 2015.

Despite the overhaul, the GSL's primary concerns remain unchanged.

If successful, the GSL would face a logistical labyrinth to secure funds, and the required quality and quantity of players, in addition to establishing a separate administrative board to oversee the franchise, all within months of the proposed 7 February announcement of licenses.

"Do we have the time to put together a proper setup? It's a big organisation to get set up in a month or two months," GSL vice chair Peter Boyes said.

"The hardest thing there is how we go about getting more people who are interested, people who want to be involved."

The GSL, if offered a licence, has the option to forward it on to another entity or amalgamation of existing clubs, which could alleviate strain on developing a new panel.

However individual clubs face the same challenge to juggle their community football needs.

"We need more people who are prepared to get on board with being involved with the running of it," Boyes said.

"The GSL can't run it as both - community football as well as the high end," Boyes said.

Costing looms as another roadblock, with player fees, corporate sponsorship, fundraising efforts and syndicates all on the table as options.

"If we go ahead with it and put in an actual application we're going to have to start off with pretty much the bare bones minimum in terms of being able to fund it," Boyes said.

"Because of that short time frame it makes it really difficult."

With successful applicants bound to the competition for a minimum of three years before the introduction of a promotion/relegation system with FFV state leagues, a prominent school of thought from GSL clubs was to hold off an application in order to build a foundation in preparation for a tilt at the NPLV in 2017.

However, Boyes believed it was now or never for Gippsland.

"The reality of it is once these licenses to clubs are given out you're going to find it very difficult to get another crack at it," he said.

"Personally I don't believe that we're going to get this opportunity again, if we don't go with it this time I think that's it.

"It's too easy to say 'it's all too hard we're not going to bother', the reality is it's probably the best opportunity we'll ever have, and have ever had."

Local clubs were also concerned about losing players and significantly reducing the quality of play within the local GSL competition, but Boyes believes access to premier competition would provide long term gains.

"Those players when they come back to their clubs will be better players for it and the experience they bring with them will be beneficial there," he said.

"You've got to be fair to the player, at the end of the day players who are good enough to get somewhere have got to be encouraged to do so."

With many talented local players currently forced to travel to Melbourne for top level competition, Boyes said an NPLV side could offer much needed access to premier football within Gippsland.

"The reason they're doing that is to get that better competition and it would be fantastic if we could provide it here in Gippsland," he said.

"It's important that they're playing really good competition every week... there's no doubt that we've got talent and if we can nurture that and provide a pathway for them I think we can see a lot more Johnny Hutchinsons and people like that coming through Gippsland and getting somewhere."

Boyes said the strength of a Gippsland bid would be its facilities, in particular Latrobe City Sports Stadium, and a depth of junior talent.

He acknowledged the seniors would likely struggle at the outset, but believed bringing youth through the ranks would lead to a brighter future.

"We will face a battle especially in the early days. It will take time but the fact we have three years guaranteed gives us time to improve on that," he said.

"You can't come into a competition that is such a high lift in standard and overnight expect to be on top."

Boyes said the league required further information before committing to the scheme, with a final meeting slated for 13 January ahead of a 20 January deadline, and required whole-hearted support from the Gippsland soccer community.

"The clubs have got to support it; if the clubs don't support it then it's not worth doing," he said.

"It is going to be a big ask... (but) I'd rather go to bed at night thinking we gave it our best shot and it wasn't good enough rather than going 'what if'?"

The GSL is eligible to apply for a license as a "regional entity".

Anyone interested in being involved with the Gippsland NPLV bid in any capacity should phone the GSL office on 5134 8888.


http://www.latrobevalleyexpress.com.au/story/2006775/nplv-bid-back-on-the-table/?cs=1588
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The interesting thing will be what happens if two regional clubs are put into the top division, with promotion/relegation between top and 2nd tier from the start... Because right now the old VPL clubs are fighting it out to sign up all the available Aussie talent to fill the gaps left by the reduction in foreign players. If Geelong or Ballarat, for example, don't know until 7 February whether they are in the top level or not, there's no way they will be able to put a competitive side together. They will be relegated and we'll be back to an all Melbourne top tier.
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Benjamin wrote:
The interesting thing will be what happens if two regional clubs are put into the top division, with promotion/relegation between top and 2nd tier from the start... Because right now the old VPL clubs are fighting it out to sign up all the available Aussie talent to fill the gaps left by the reduction in foreign players. If Geelong or Ballarat, for example, don't know until 7 February whether they are in the top level or not, there's no way they will be able to put a competitive side together. They will be relegated and we'll be back to an all Melbourne top tier.

How are they not in the same boat as current VPL clubs also not knowing if they'll be in the top NPL tier or not, given that all parties' platforms agree on a minimum of two regional clubs per division?

Logic would dictate that Ballarat Red Devils and Geelong Galaxy are the two regional teams to get the nod for the top tier being the best representatives of the two biggest non-metro population centres and having apparently adequate bids. It's been amply reported that Ballarat have already signed ex Victory (and Perth Glory, NQ Fury, Marconi and Dandenong) player James Robinson as coach and was quoted in a Courier article on here as recruiting with the NPL in mind. Would that put them so far behind the mark as VPL clubs? Players will be taking a punt on Sunshine Georgies or Bentleigh Greens, but they can be more confident that they'll get top level NPL with Ballarat or Geelong. It's an hour by car for the players FFS, as if they don't already travel as long inside Melbourne's 1950's infrastructure for games.

Will you be disappointed if they don't get relegated?
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paladisious wrote:
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The interesting thing will be what happens if two regional clubs are put into the top division, with promotion/relegation between top and 2nd tier from the start... Because right now the old VPL clubs are fighting it out to sign up all the available Aussie talent to fill the gaps left by the reduction in foreign players. If Geelong or Ballarat, for example, don't know until 7 February whether they are in the top level or not, there's no way they will be able to put a competitive side together. They will be relegated and we'll be back to an all Melbourne top tier.

How are they not in the same boat as current VPL clubs also not knowing if they'll be in the top NPL tier or not, given that all parties' platforms agree on a minimum of two regional clubs per division?

Logic would dictate that Ballarat Red Devils and Geelong Galaxy are the two regional teams to get the nod for the top tier being the best representatives of the two biggest non-metro population centres and having apparently adequate bids. It's been amply reported that Ballarat have already signed ex Victory (and Perth Glory, NQ Fury, Marconi and Dandenong) player James Robinson as coach and was quoted in a Courier article on here as recruiting with the NPL in mind. Would that put them so far behind the mark as VPL clubs? Players will be taking a punt on Sunshine Georgies or Bentleigh Greens, but they can be more confident that they'll get top level NPL with Ballarat or Geelong. It's an hour by car for the players FFS, as if they don't already travel as long inside Melbourne's 1950's infrastructure for games.

Will you be disappointed if they don't get relegated?


Couldn't have summed it up better!

PS: I really hope Galaxy get in.
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paladisious wrote:
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The interesting thing will be what happens if two regional clubs are put into the top division, with promotion/relegation between top and 2nd tier from the start... Because right now the old VPL clubs are fighting it out to sign up all the available Aussie talent to fill the gaps left by the reduction in foreign players. If Geelong or Ballarat, for example, don't know until 7 February whether they are in the top level or not, there's no way they will be able to put a competitive side together. They will be relegated and we'll be back to an all Melbourne top tier.

How are they not in the same boat as current VPL clubs also not knowing if they'll be in the top NPL tier or not, given that all parties' platforms agree on a minimum of two regional clubs per division?

Logic would dictate that Ballarat Red Devils and Geelong Galaxy are the two regional teams to get the nod for the top tier being the best representatives of the two biggest non-metro population centres and having apparently adequate bids. It's been amply reported that Ballarat have already signed ex Victory (and Perth Glory, NQ Fury, Marconi and Dandenong) player James Robinson as coach and was quoted in a Courier article on here as recruiting with the NPL in mind. Would that put them so far behind the mark as VPL clubs? Players will be taking a punt on Sunshine Georgies or Bentleigh Greens, but they can be more confident that they'll get top level NPL with Ballarat or Geelong. It's an hour by car for the players FFS, as if they don't already travel as long inside Melbourne's 1950's infrastructure for games.

Will you be disappointed if they don't get relegated?


I have no beef with the regional sides - like the co-signatories I support the idea of a couple of regional sides... However, I'm of the opinion that delays in establishing the league have placed the regional sides at a disadvantage when it comes to recruiting. It's hard to recruit when you don't know what your budget is, and it's hard to establish a budget when you don't know what league you will be in.

Ballarat have hired Robinson, yes - that's a single VPL standard player. Other than that I'm not sure who they've signed - I know who they haven't signed though - pretty much all of the identified talent that played in the VPL last year has now been signed up to one club or another. Last year's surviving VPL sides, plus the state 1 sides who earned promotion, are all pretty confident that they will be included in the first tier - and they are recruiting appropriately.

With regard to relegation - there's 4-5 clubs I have friends at, I hope they don't get relegated - other than that I don't care who goes down. This isn't about wishing failure on anyone - rather about wishing things had been set up earlier, and clearer, in order to give all clubs as even a playing field as possible.
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Fair enough. Nothing to do but wait now I guess.
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Benjamin wrote:
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The interesting thing will be what happens if two regional clubs are put into the top division, with promotion/relegation between top and 2nd tier from the start... Because right now the old VPL clubs are fighting it out to sign up all the available Aussie talent to fill the gaps left by the reduction in foreign players. If Geelong or Ballarat, for example, don't know until 7 February whether they are in the top level or not, there's no way they will be able to put a competitive side together. They will be relegated and we'll be back to an all Melbourne top tier.

How are they not in the same boat as current VPL clubs also not knowing if they'll be in the top NPL tier or not, given that all parties' platforms agree on a minimum of two regional clubs per division?

Logic would dictate that Ballarat Red Devils and Geelong Galaxy are the two regional teams to get the nod for the top tier being the best representatives of the two biggest non-metro population centres and having apparently adequate bids. It's been amply reported that Ballarat have already signed ex Victory (and Perth Glory, NQ Fury, Marconi and Dandenong) player James Robinson as coach and was quoted in a Courier article on here as recruiting with the NPL in mind. Would that put them so far behind the mark as VPL clubs? Players will be taking a punt on Sunshine Georgies or Bentleigh Greens, but they can be more confident that they'll get top level NPL with Ballarat or Geelong. It's an hour by car for the players FFS, as if they don't already travel as long inside Melbourne's 1950's infrastructure for games.

Will you be disappointed if they don't get relegated?


I have no beef with the regional sides - like the co-signatories I support the idea of a couple of regional sides... However, I'm of the opinion that delays in establishing the league have placed the regional sides at a disadvantage when it comes to recruiting. It's hard to recruit when you don't know what your budget is, and it's hard to establish a budget when you don't know what league you will be in.

Ballarat have hired Robinson, yes - that's a single VPL standard player. Other than that I'm not sure who they've signed - I know who they haven't signed though - pretty much all of the identified talent that played in the VPL last year has now been signed up to one club or another. Last year's surviving VPL sides, plus the state 1 sides who earned promotion, are all pretty confident that they will be included in the first tier - and they are recruiting appropriately.

With regard to relegation - there's 4-5 clubs I have friends at, I hope they don't get relegated - other than that I don't care who goes down. This isn't about wishing failure on anyone - rather about wishing things had been set up earlier, and clearer, in order to give all clubs as even a playing field as possible.


There were a few Ballarat boys playing at VPL clubs last year as well as others in NPLQ that are all going back to play for the Devils should they get into NPL. They should have a competitive team.
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Galaxy never put in a bid. 4 sides from out Geelong way did. Galaxy wasn't one of them. They pulled out of the entire process around August last year
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Galaxy never put in a bid. 4 sides from out Geelong way did. Galaxy wasn't one of them. They pulled out of the entire process around August last year

Ouch. Who are the bids then? North Geelong Warriors and Surf Coast, I'll bet, but who else?
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Galaxy never put in a bid. 4 sides from out Geelong way did. Galaxy wasn't one of them. They pulled out of the entire process around August last year

Ouch. Who are the bids then? North Geelong Warriors and Surf Coast, I'll bet, but who else?


from what I hear two other "traditional clubs". If North dont get the bid to represent the Geelong area based on who has put their hands up, then the people in charge of handing out licenses should leave their desks and run out onto oncoming traffic on St. Kilda Rd.
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CL wrote:
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Galaxy never put in a bid. 4 sides from out Geelong way did. Galaxy wasn't one of them. They pulled out of the entire process around August last year

Ouch. Who are the bids then? North Geelong Warriors and Surf Coast, I'll bet, but who else?


from what I hear two other "traditional clubs". If North dont get the bid to represent the Geelong area based on who has put their hands up, then the people in charge of handing out licenses should leave their desks and run out onto oncoming traffic on St. Kilda Rd.


Would have been nice to see both North and a "broadbased" club get the gig, but I guess there's only so much you can hope for!
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paladisious wrote:
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Galaxy never put in a bid. 4 sides from out Geelong way did. Galaxy wasn't one of them. They pulled out of the entire process around August last year

Ouch. Who are the bids then? North Geelong Warriors and Surf Coast, I'll bet, but who else?


from what I hear two other "traditional clubs". If North dont get the bid to represent the Geelong area based on who has put their hands up, then the people in charge of handing out licenses should leave their desks and run out onto oncoming traffic on St. Kilda Rd.


Would have been nice to see both North and a "broadbased" club get the gig, but I guess there's only so much you can hope for!


Come on! No other club in G-town is deserving of polishing North's boots across the board (criteria or otherwise) and now a broadbased club has to be thrown in as their equal ](*,)


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CL wrote:
Galaxy never put in a bid. 4 sides from out Geelong way did. Galaxy wasn't one of them. They pulled out of the entire process around August last year


Galaxy pulled out for a 2014 licence mid November and was confirmed when the new criteria was published. Weren't prepared to field a senior team in 2014 with such short notice.(Feb 7th 2014). The new criteria suited clubs versus new consortia bids plus no female component in 2014 was another factor. North Geelong, Geelong SC & Surfcoast FC are the confirmed bidders from the Geelong Region.
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Benjamin wrote:
Indication coming out of the FFV was that ALL compliant bids would be accepted, even if they had to expand the comp to 3 divisions to fit them all in - with promotion/relegation between the three divisions from the beginning, but none from the state leagues in or out of the NPL.

It will be interesting to see how many of the 38 are duplicate bids - I know of at least 2 clubs that were submitting double bids - one under their traditional name, and another as a separate entity (transparent to anyone actually reading the applications - nothing underhand going on).


Contrary to your mail Benjamin, I am hearing it will be one division of either 16 -18 clubs ( with 2 regionals) or two divisions (NPLV & NPLV2 a la NSW) with 12 clubs in each (4 regionals in total). Ballarat, Bendigo and a combined Shepparton/Wodonga plus 3 bids from Geelong Region have all submitted with Ballarat odds on in my book. Not sure about Gippsland though. Also I believe a current VPL club is also struggling to get their juniors numbers up to meet the liscencing agreement and another is 'merging'its junior component with a strong State League club's juniors program. We will wait and see what Friday brings. It could all be totally different!!!!
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Benjamin wrote:
Indication coming out of the FFV was that ALL compliant bids would be accepted, even if they had to expand the comp to 3 divisions to fit them all in - with promotion/relegation between the three divisions from the beginning, but none from the state leagues in or out of the NPL.

It will be interesting to see how many of the 38 are duplicate bids - I know of at least 2 clubs that were submitting double bids - one under their traditional name, and another as a separate entity (transparent to anyone actually reading the applications - nothing underhand going on).


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Indication coming out of the FFV was that ALL compliant bids would be accepted, even if they had to expand the comp to 3 divisions to fit them all in - with promotion/relegation between the three divisions from the beginning, but none from the state leagues in or out of the NPL.

It will be interesting to see how many of the 38 are duplicate bids - I know of at least 2 clubs that were submitting double bids - one under their traditional name, and another as a separate entity (transparent to anyone actually reading the applications - nothing underhand going on).


Contrary to your mail Benjamin, I am hearing it will be one division of either 16 -18 clubs ( with 2 regionals) or two divisions (NPLV & NPLV2 a la NSW) with 12 clubs in each (4 regionals in total). Ballarat, Bendigo and a combined Shepparton/Wodonga plus 3 bids from Geelong Region have all submitted with Ballarat odds on in my book.

You may also see an NPLV 1 and two NPLV 2 division regionalised to South East and North West. Reasoning there is no set agreement from FFA FFV and Co-sig for a definitive League Model. If Applicants are compliant they are in.

Not sure about Gippsland though. Also I believe a current VPL club is also struggling to get their juniors numbers up to meet the liscencing agreement and another is 'merging'its junior component with a strong State League club's juniors program. We will wait and see what Friday brings.
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There is also one metropolitan consortium bid in the mix.

Edited by Arthur: 4/2/2014 03:43:38 PM
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Arthur wrote:
BMK1 wrote:
Benjamin wrote:
Indication coming out of the FFV was that ALL compliant bids would be accepted, even if they had to expand the comp to 3 divisions to fit them all in - with promotion/relegation between the three divisions from the beginning, but none from the state leagues in or out of the NPL.

It will be interesting to see how many of the 38 are duplicate bids - I know of at least 2 clubs that were submitting double bids - one under their traditional name, and another as a separate entity (transparent to anyone actually reading the applications - nothing underhand going on).


Contrary to your mail Benjamin, I am hearing it will be one division of either 16 -18 clubs ( with 2 regionals) or two divisions (NPLV & NPLV2 a la NSW) with 12 clubs in each (4 regionals in total). Ballarat, Bendigo and a combined Shepparton/Wodonga plus 3 bids from Geelong Region have all submitted with Ballarat odds on in my book.

You may also see an NPLV 1 and two NPLV 2 division regionalised to South East and North West. Reasoning there is no set agreement from FFA FFV and Co-sig for a definitive League Model. If Applicants are compliant they are in.

Not sure about Gippsland though. Also I believe a current VPL club is also struggling to get their juniors numbers up to meet the liscencing agreement and another is 'merging'its junior component with a strong State League club's juniors program. We will wait and see what Friday brings.
Could be I know who you are suggesting
It could all be totally different!!!!


There is also one metropolitan consortium bid in the mix.

Edited by Arthur: 4/2/2014 03:43:38 PM


Defining 'being compliant' will be interesting. The Liscensing Agreement and fulfilling the requirement will be challenging for a lot of clubs who are under resourced. My view is that 2014 will not be an issue. They need to roll it out asap (which is an understatement!!). It will be in 2015 when they start auditing club facilities, administration, football departments and the obligatory relationships with community clubs that it will become interesting. Personally I would like to see a max of 24 clubs (2 divisions)in 2014 with an option of adding an extra 4 clubs in 2015.
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1 more day. Very keen to see the list.


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1 more day. Very keen to see the list.


North Geelong Warriors is a confirmed NPLV starter!!!:d :d
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1 more day. Very keen to see the list.


North Geelong Warriors is a confirmed NPLV starter!!!:d :d


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Hume City and St Albans confirmed as well
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Add Ballarat and Surf Coast to that list
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