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			    As a Sydney fan I don't really care. I'm more concerned at seeing an A-League club being completely rehashed at the drop of a hat. It could potentially happen to any club.                
			     				
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			    sydneyfc1987 wrote:As a Sydney fan I don't really care. I'm more concerned at seeing an A-League club being completely rehashed at the drop of a hat. It could potentially happen to any club.  The downside of a franchised league.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    sydneyfc1987 wrote:As a Sydney fan I don't really care. I'm more concerned at seeing an A-League club being completely rehashed at the drop of a hat. It could potentially happen to any club.  =d>  totally agree                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    sydneycroatia58 wrote:Marconi to file a formal complain against Sydney FC.  And Sutherland against them. Marconi were green for a while weren't they.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    sydneyfc1987 wrote:As a Sydney fan I don't really care. I'm more concerned at seeing an A-League club being completely rehashed at the drop of a hat. It could potentially happen to any club.  Tbf, there isn't much stopping this happening to any club in the world unless they are publicly owned by a majority, so I wouldn't be all that concerned.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    I dont have much of a problem with this, other than what happens when ManCity are no longer the owners?? Ultimately I think this should be down to Heart(??) fans as they are the ones that will be wearing and paying for the jersey.                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    nickk wrote:Absent_doz_2259 wrote:nickk wrote:Absent_doz_2259 wrote:shallow hal wants a gal wrote:If they do go to sky blue it should be partial. 
  There kit should be sky blue and red. Could probably make a nice kit out of that.   But what is the point of compromising?!? This wasn't an amalgamation. This was a takeover.  Nobody has paid $11M or whatever it was to oversee two completely different clubs become one loving partnership.  They should have read the fine print, South Melbourne could have gone ahead and bought CCM and then discovered they had to play most of their games at Gosford. The FFA  actually owns the club , and control what they are called, jerseys etc even though they are usually a rubber stamp. The only thing I think they have not approved from the owners is Clive Palmer freedom of speech jersey. If the FFA decide to put their foot down this time they are 100% entitled to do it.  So you think FFA weren't involved in the negotiations? .....and you don't think those details were concluded at the time of negotiations?  :-s   Maybe they did have a large role to play in these changed license terms as far as length but they announced at the time of the take over they were going to consult the fans and nothing of this sort was decided.  They might have asked the FFA if they would have no issues with a change but there is no way the FFA would  have changed the terms of the license regards this as its the cornerstone for being able to continue clubs after their owners go broke or turn rebel. The FFA is not going to give away that power.  Riiight. So from what I can gather, you are arguing that FFA 'own' all IP concerned with the individual franchises. Which is fairly correct as they have 100% control over the use and distribution of said IP as per their terms of licensees.  But none of that has anything to do with with what Melbourne City will be wearing next year. Just like when the consortium that applied for Queensland Roar requested as part of their bid to FFA that they will turn out in 'oranje' as part of their brand. To which FFA agreed upon - they had an agreement and hence the licence was granted.  Melbourne's new ownership negotiations are finished and the deals are done. The fact that they've had to put in an 'official request' to change name etc is merely an administrative formality.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Villaboy wrote:I dont have much of a problem with this, other than what happens when ManCity are no longer the owners?? Ultimately I think this should be down to Heart(??) fans as they are the ones that will be wearing and paying for the jersey.  Seriously though, if the City of Melbourne's colours are red and white, wouldn't the best option be to keep the colours and change the name from Heart to City?                
			    				
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			    Absent_doz_2259 wrote:sydneyfc1987 wrote:As a Sydney fan I don't really care. I'm more concerned at seeing an A-League club being completely rehashed at the drop of a hat. It could potentially happen to any club.  Tbf, there isn't much stopping this happening to any club in the world unless they are publicly owned by a majority, so I wouldn't be all that concerned.  And does happen, with Cardiff this year, and with club relocations like Wimbledon/MK Dons. In all cases the relevant association needed to approve the changes, and occasionally overruled the owners like in the Hull Tigers case. Let's look at it objectively. Heart had a name that everyone ridiculed, a strip that was pretty cool, a lack of a separate identity in the city, a small dedicated fan base, and no historical record of proud achievements. The strip is the only positive the club has but that is far outweighed by the negatives. If any club was to be ripe for a change of identity it would have to be MH. Edited by Angus: 15/4/2014 01:23:40 PM                
			    				
			                        
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    sydneyfc1987 wrote:Villaboy wrote:I dont have much of a problem with this, other than what happens when ManCity are no longer the owners?? Ultimately I think this should be down to Heart(??) fans as they are the ones that will be wearing and paying for the jersey.  Seriously though, if the City of Melbourne's colours are red and white, wouldn't the best option be to keep the colours and change the name from Heart to City?   Yeah, it would be best. But if they change to Sky Blue Im not gonna get my nickers in a twist over it. We'll just have to make sure that our jersey is better than theirs.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Villaboy wrote:sydneyfc1987 wrote:Villaboy wrote:I dont have much of a problem with this, other than what happens when ManCity are no longer the owners?? Ultimately I think this should be down to Heart(??) fans as they are the ones that will be wearing and paying for the jersey.  Seriously though, if the City of Melbourne's colours are red and white, wouldn't the best option be to keep the colours and change the name from Heart to City?   Yeah, it would be best. But if they change to Sky Blue Im not gonna get my nickers in a twist over it. We'll just have to make sure that our jersey is better than theirs.  the sky blue version of their home kit is complete class, it just looks beautiful so you will have to come up with something impressive to beat that                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    wtf like there aren't already a-league teams with the same colours.
  barlow you fucking mouth breather
                  
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Nice gem:  http://s14.postimg.org/88mrfgejl/Football_Men.jpgAlso, apparently NSW's colours aren't sky blue. It's a different shade (Light blue and Mid blue):  http://www.nsw.gov.au/about-nsw/symbols-emblems                
			    				
			                        
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    moofa wrote:thupercoach wrote:Davo1985 wrote:thupercoach wrote:Machine wrote:Well done Barlow, keep fighting it till the end. 
  Whilst the dumbarses on here are trying to provoke all and sundry the fact is that we only have 10 professional football teams in Australia, not 80+ plus like they do in the UK so whilst there are only 10 teams it's stupid that a team should have exact colours especially when the team is already established with its own colours. 
 
   Exactly right. There are at least ten red teams in English professional football, but that's over an eighty team competition. With a small, ten team comp it's a different matter. And Sky Blue isn't just a colour for us, it is the colour of NSW and part of our songs and chants. A foreign team coming here and attempting to completely transplant itself is ridiculous and insulting. Heart fans don't want sky blue, Sydney fans don't want sky blue for Heart. And by the way, where the hell are Man City expecting to get new fans from if they have been so quick to alienate the current fan base?   I don't think they are that concerned. A successful winning side, playing good football blended in with a bunch of high profile players will certainly get new fans along.  Despite all the debating i reckon they will average more than 12k next year. Within 5 years be up to around 20k. They're an entity that knows what it's doing.  I don't think they are too worried about alienating a couple of thousand fans.   Where are these fans to come from? If they convert 20K Victory fans then Victory will have almost none left. And I think the MV fans who weren't rusted on have already switched to Heart.  AFL fans? I don't think they're too keen on embracing a "foreign game", and certainly not to the extent of becoming regulars at home matches every fortnight.  And as for the bunch of high profile players, the salary cap ensures that they cannot buy premierships the way City, Chelsea and PSG have done over the years. It'll still be a bunch of more or less average footballers with two marquees. They may get two incredible marquees but even that isn't enough for a title.  Eurosnobs who stay up to 2am every second week watching the EPL but don't care about the A-league on in prime time. Get a big Marquee and a pre-season friendly against Man City and they could pick up 5k new fans  Euro snobs have their own teams, and they won't support Mini Man City, which is what Heart will have become.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    thupercoach wrote:Rico! wrote:shallow hal wants a gal wrote:If they do go to sky blue it should be partial. 
  There kit should be sky blue and red. Could probably make a nice kit out of that.     I think that looks great! I'd be very much in favour of a colour mix. It offends no one, they won't lose the existing fan base,it keeps Citeh happy and we retain Sky Blue. Win win all round.  Edited by thupercoach: 15/4/2014 11:58:32 AMEdited by thupercoach: 15/4/2014 12:00:14 PM I think this is a winner. It just needs the man city white shorts like below. I also adjusted the blue to theirs as well.                  
			    				
			                        
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    That second link has only fueled my desire to get Sydney FC to incorporate the Blue Groper into their identity.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Cromulent wrote:That second link has only fueled my desire to get Sydney FC to incorporate the Blue Groper into their identity.  Isn't 'The Groper', Seb Ryall's nickname.  I'll see myself out. :-"                
			    				
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			    Not bothering to read 4 pages of waffle. But, why not change colours? They can wear their old Heart colours in away games. They'll wear sky blue at home.                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Sydney FC had ample opportunity to forge its identity but opted not to have one. Let this be a lesson to teams who think xx FC or xx United is all they need to brand a team                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    I'm a SFC fan and frankly, I don't care what Melbourne City does. When we play each other at Allianz, they'll probably be playing in red colours anyway. 
  If we have to modify our colours slightly to differentiate our brand, so what? As long as whatever we change it to is representative of Sydney, and as long as the fans are consulted,  I'm cool with it. I've always found the whole "Sydney is Sky Blue" thing a bit contrived anyway. Sky Blue is traditionally the colour of NSW, not Sydney. 
  The old colonial flag of Sydney is actually royal blue and orange. We could always add some orange back into the Jersey, as many fans have been asking for. Or you could even add a dash of Green on the Jersey somewhere - Sydney is, after all, nicknamed the "emerald city".
  This really isn't the end of the world. Most football teams go through a colour change at some point, especially in their early years.  
 
 
                  
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    hotrod wrote:Not bothering to read 4 pages of waffle.
  But, why not change colours?
  They can wear their old Heart colours in away games.
  They'll wear sky blue at home.  Wrong question. Flip it round, as the right question is:  why change the colours?The majority of Melbourne Heart supporters want the club to keep the colours Red and White, the colours of the Melbourne flag are red and white (The colours of Man City's NYC club are also the colours of the New York City flag), and Sydney FC is sky blue and is against Heart changing its colours to sky blue. So why change the colours?                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Murfy1 wrote:hotrod wrote:Not bothering to read 4 pages of waffle.
  But, why not change colours?
  They can wear their old Heart colours in away games.
  They'll wear sky blue at home.  Wrong question. Flip it round, as the right question is:  why change the colours?The majority of Melbourne Heart supporters want the club to keep the colours Red and White, the colours of the Melbourne flag are red and white (The colours of Man City's NYC club are also the colours of the New York City flag), and Sydney FC is sky blue and is against Heart changing its colours to sky blue. So why change the colours?  Because the colours are a part of a dead club that failed miserably.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    ignorance is bliss hey?? Forgetting that Marconi were green, with white shorts. But never let the truth get in the way of a good story...??                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Yeah 442 is going  down hill. When Cardiff changed colours every football fan in Britain said it was wrong, with the suggestion Hull City should be Hull Tigers there is very little support across the league. Fans realise if the name and colours of their club were to change they would oppose it. Yet here we have a situation in Australia where the owners are trying the change the identity of a club (a young one yes, but still one beloved by their fans) and opposition supporters simply take it as an opportunity to get stuck into Heart and Sydney.                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    imonfourfourtwo wrote:Yeah 442 is going  down hill. When Cardiff changed colours every football fan in Britain said it was wrong, with the suggestion Hull City should be Hull Tigers there is very little support across the league. Fans realise if the name and colours of their club were to change they would oppose it. Yet here we have a situation in Australia where the owners are trying the change the identity of a club (a young one yes, but still one beloved by their fans) and opposition supporters simply take it as an opportunity to get stuck into Heart and Sydney.   People on here take anything as an opportunity to take shots at other teams.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Villaboy wrote:ignorance is bliss hey?? Forgetting that Marconi were green, with white shorts. But never let the truth get in the way of a good story...??  Funnily enough Central Coast was the sky blue team back in the day.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    imonfourfourtwo wrote:Yeah 442 is going  down hill. When Cardiff changed colours every football fan in Britain said it was wrong, with the suggestion Hull City should be Hull Tigers there is very little support across the league. Fans realise if the name and colours of their club were to change they would oppose it. Yet here we have a situation in Australia where the owners are trying the change the identity of a club (a young one yes, but still one beloved by their fans) and opposition supporters simply take it as an opportunity to get stuck into Heart and Sydney.   i can sympathise with you wanting to keep your team colours but sydney fc are just a joke when it comes to worrying about another team having sky blue so should be mocked, heart fans not so much                
			    				
			                         
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    jlm8695 wrote:Murfy1 wrote:hotrod wrote:Not bothering to read 4 pages of waffle.
  But, why not change colours?
  They can wear their old Heart colours in away games.
  They'll wear sky blue at home.  Wrong question. Flip it round, as the right question is:  why change the colours?The majority of Melbourne Heart supporters want the club to keep the colours Red and White, the colours of the Melbourne flag are red and white (The colours of Man City's NYC club are also the colours of the New York City flag), and Sydney FC is sky blue and is against Heart changing its colours to sky blue. So why change the colours?  Because the colours are a part of a dead club that failed miserably.  Hey Jim, Go fuck yourself, Regards                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    imonfourfourtwo wrote:Yeah 442 is going  down hill. When Cardiff changed colours every football fan in Britain said it was wrong, with the suggestion Hull City should be Hull Tigers there is very little support across the league. Fans realise if the name and colours of their club were to change they would oppose it. Yet here we have a situation in Australia where the owners are trying the change the identity of a club (a young one yes, but still one beloved by their fans) and opposition supporters simply take it as an opportunity to get stuck into Heart and Sydney.   Fuck 'em, mate. We're the only team that stood on our own two feet, never asked for a handout from anyone.                
			    				
			                        
                             
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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			    Villaboy wrote:ignorance is bliss hey?? Forgetting that Marconi were green, with white shorts. But never let the truth get in the way of a good story...??  Marconi didn't wear sky blue at all until after Sydney FC came around?                   
			    				
			                        
                            
                                    
                 
                           
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
                         
            
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