I kinda know why ac Milan got rid of some of their older players , but letting Andrea pirlo go was the biggest fuck ups ever . You can see it at Juve and with the National team he makes them tick .

And I still :lol: at Allegri for stating that Pirlo didn't fit into his plans/system at AC Milan and let his contract expire.
Juve signed Pirlo on a free.

nekminnit Juve win 3 titles in a row :cool: #-o :lol:

:lol: Thanks Allegri. Best signing ever.

Pirlo overated? guy is a freak , i remember reading something in world soccer saying Pirlo is one paced,one legged, cant defend etc etc but you'll will find a place for him in your team . One of the best deep lying playmakers ever

Its a troll.

I feel privileged for having the opportunity to see him live at the 2000 Olympics.

I've just watched the England game for the third time just to watch him. He knows all the options before he even gets the ball, and always- always dammit- picks the right one. What's more he is constantly moving to offer a clear receiving lane. This is all about what is going between his ears. Pirlo's brain works on a different level to anyone else's.

Yes, there is no perfect player. But whereas the modern-day play makers like Ozil and Iniesta play out wide Pirlo owns the middle of the pitch. He as as close to perfect a deep lying creative mid you'll see.

:d :d :d =d>

Pirloless?

:d

This post is just the worst.

So the current England team is a bunch of sub-par has-beens?

Also covered 10.5kms in that game. More than the majority of England's midfield.

You gave two retired players as examples.

Fairly over rated.

Well everything bar the beard anyway.

-PB

I've done a lot on stats. In that game, Pirlo , was often under considerable opposition pressure in terms of time and space.

To still have a pass completion rate of 93 % is exceptional.=d>

Even more impressive are the number of killer passes he delivered. Killer passes are defined as ones that break one or two lines and take a number of opposition players out of the game.






Edited by Decentric: 16/6/2014 06:22:47 PM

No I'm not.

I'm saying there are more complete players in a similar position to what he plays.

Overall though, given his great strengths, Pirlo may be more of an asset to a team.

Easy enough when you're passing at static targets.

I don't get the big deal. Missed an easy free kick and walked around doing nothing for the rest of the game.

I guess when you play has-beens, you get pedestrians. Will get shown up against quality opposition rather than barely scraping past sub-par teams like England.

So what you are saying is that you can't have someone do it all. Pirlo should just focus on his strengths and leave the pressuring of the opposition and breaking up of their play to De Rossi, Marchisio and Candreva - i.e the roles they've been asked to play by their coach.

Bresc doesn't have Pirlo's talent.

Few have.

Pace is part of Bresc's game. As he lost some of it his efficacy in Italy diminished.

I'd rate Bresc, along with Cahill, Grella, Culina, Kewell (early 2000s), possibly Emo, as our best players ever. None are as good as Pirlo though.

Few of the supposed Aussie superheroes of the eighties/ nineties have been tested for sustained periods at international/top level.

Edited by Decentric: 16/6/2014 05:53:12 PM

Needs more panenka

But you still did not answer my question.

A guy like Vince Grella could do both.

Patrick Viera may be another, a better player than Grella.

Admittedly, Grella was nowhere near as good at starting attacks as Pirlo, who is peerless.

A coach that asks a player like Pirlo to do that role would be a fool.

Like has been mentioned above, Pirlo's role is not to breakdown play and pressure the opposition. He is there to ensure Italy control possession and start attacks.

Look I think Pirlo is a fantastic player. That is why I started the thread. Without doubt, he is one of the best players in the world.

All I'm trying to do is elucidate that all players have weaknesses, even Messi, Robben and C. Ronaldo. There is no complete player.

A coach would be even more pleased if Pirlo was a more effective ball winner, with more pace, to augment his fantastic pre-existing assets.

When Bresc has been effective in 2 and 3 of the five aforementioned weaknesses I've elucidated in Pirlo.

There has been a lot of response to this thread I've started on Pirlo, with a degree of adulation that lacks objectivity.

I thought England's Sterling was equally as effective for the Poms with a different skill set and started a thread on him. Nobody has responded. Is this because he is a relative unknown?










Edited by Decentric: 16/6/2014 05:35:24 PM

The way you describe him, looks like you are also talking about bresciano..

Both careers took different paths, pirlo still at a top club but bresciano cashing in.
Did bresciano had the same potential if he would have choosen to continue his career
In italy?

Please put your "how to play football" textbook away.

The fact that you've listed what he doesn't do means you don't understand what he is there to do.

All.of.this.

Thanks for that link ! :d what ball movement in flight !

You make good points Decentric and in that case Prandelli should drop him :lol:

What he lacks what you state doesn't his positives far outweigh your points ?

Please - oh please don't make mention of Jedda Millsy - they don't bat an eyelid to Pirlo, they can cut off ball and break up attacks but they hardly win games like Pirlo, put their fellow players into attacking/scoring positions game in game out in top shelf games not just in Serie A.
Euro '12 he owned it till we got run over in the Final.

Yeah I kinda thought his throw back to the Gattuso partnership was confirmation enough of that?

Decentric, you're listing jobs for defensive enforcers and traditional no.6s. Pirlo is not that, and has never been that.
He tackles when it is needed, but he isn't the engine room. He is there for the possession and starting/completing the attacks.

At Juve he has Vidal and Marchisio/Pogba to do the dirty work for him. At Milan/Italy 2006 he had Gattuso especially to do it for him.

You can't say "he doesn't do XYZ" when he is on the pitch to do "ABC", because you could then do that for every single player on the pitch.

TBH when he hits free kicks like this I still go mental http://gfycat.com/CompetentDefensiveGosling =p~